[Leon[_7_]]

Think again.

Wooden nail guns.

https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/en

[[email protected]]

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 9:46:10 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
Think again.

Wooden nail guns.

https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/en

Just can't see how that would work. What would keep the "nail" heads from popping off? I can't see how the nail itself would be strong enough to countersink it, which is a large reason we use air nailers.

How careful would you have to be with "nail" storage to keep them at the right humidity so they didn't swell? What happens when you hit a knot... does the nail break off so you have a stub sticking up requiring sanding? When the gun doesn't set the nail flush, can you pound in the wooden nail in, or more important, can you drive it in without breaking the head?

To me, this looks like a solution to a non existent problem.

Robert

[Scott Lurndal]

" writes:
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 9:46:10 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
Think again.
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Wooden nail guns.
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https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/en

Just can't see how that would work. What would keep the "nail" heads from =
popping off? I can't see how the nail itself would be strong enough to coun=
tersink it, which is a large reason we use air nailers.

How careful would you have to be with "nail" storage to keep them at the ri=
ght humidity so they didn't swell? What happens when you hit a knot... doe=
s the nail break off so you have a stub sticking up requiring sanding? Whe=
n the gun doesn't set the nail flush, can you pound in the wooden nail in, =
or more important, can you drive it in without breaking the head?

https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/en/service/faqs

[Sonny]

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 9:46:10 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
Think again.

Wooden nail guns.

https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/en

Interesting! Possibly something to look forward to, but probably not in my lifetime for a hobbyist.

Wonder if lubricating the gun would affect the/some nails? Might not matter for framing/construction, but it may for a fine woodworking project.

Seems the sheer strength of the nails are limited. For a larger diameter and/or longer nail, the driving force would compromise the strength of the nail. Beck does state they are working on those criteria. *Might need to translate to English, as the original website is German/Austrian/Slovic language.
https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/service/faq

Sonny

[Iggy]

replying to Leon, Iggy wrote:
That's really sweet! Screw hating Furniture-Makers can finally make stuff that
lasts.

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for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/woodwo...ns-812751-.htm

[pyotr filipivich]

" on Wed, 6 Dec 2017
08:29:35 -0800 (PST) typed in rec.woodworking the following:
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 9:46:10 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
Think again.

Wooden nail guns.

https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/en

Just can't see how that would work. What would keep the "nail" heads from popping off? I can't see how the nail itself would be strong enough to countersink it, which is a large reason we use air nailers.

How careful would you have to be with "nail" storage to keep them at the right humidity so they didn't swell? What happens when you hit a knot... does the nail break off so you have a stub sticking up requiring sanding? When the gun doesn't set the nail flush, can you pound in the wooden nail in, or more important, can you drive it in without breaking the head?

To me, this looks like a solution to a non existent problem.

It is a solution to a specific set of conditions.

Specialized nail-gun using specialized nails - not much different
in concept to staple/pin guns.
--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

[Leon[_7_]]

On 12/6/2017 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 9:46:10 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
Think again.

Wooden nail guns.

https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/en

Just can't see how that would work. What would keep the "nail" heads from popping off? I can't see how the nail itself would be strong enough to countersink it, which is a large reason we use air nailers.

How careful would you have to be with "nail" storage to keep them at the right humidity so they didn't swell? What happens when you hit a knot... does the nail break off so you have a stub sticking up requiring sanding? When the gun doesn't set the nail flush, can you pound in the wooden nail in, or more important, can you drive it in without breaking the head?

To me, this looks like a solution to a non existent problem.

Robert


HEY! I'm just the messenger. LOL

BUT I think this is a finish nail type application. With wood I think
that they think that no counter sink is necessary.

I think this could look good for laying down decking and or for a rustic
finish.

[Leon[_7_]]

On 12/6/2017 10:29 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 9:46:10 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
Think again.

Wooden nail guns.

https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/en

Just can't see how that would work. What would keep the "nail" heads from popping off? I can't see how the nail itself would be strong enough to countersink it, which is a large reason we use air nailers.

How careful would you have to be with "nail" storage to keep them at the right humidity so they didn't swell? What happens when you hit a knot... does the nail break off so you have a stub sticking up requiring sanding? When the gun doesn't set the nail flush, can you pound in the wooden nail in, or more important, can you drive it in without breaking the head?

To me, this looks like a solution to a non existent problem.

Robert



BTY just took a break from Kim and I making another 30 lbs. of sausage. ;~)

[Sonny]

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 1:27:45 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:

BTY just took a break from Kim and I making another 30 lbs. of sausage. ;~)

Yeah, you can stuff some of that in my Christmas stocking, also.

Sonny

[Markem[_2_]]

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 09:45:54 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

Think again.

Wooden nail guns.

https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/en

That is neat, so who is gonna take one for the team on this one.

[John Grossbohlin[_4_]]

"Leon" wrote in message
...

Think again.

Wooden nail guns.

https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/en


One industry that could use this is the coffin industry... Due to religious
standards some coffins cannot contain any metal. As such the assembly is
typically done with dowels. Even if they needed 2-3 times as many wooden
nails as dowels it would be quicker and cheaper.

[-MIKE-]

On 12/6/17 9:45 AM, Leon wrote:
Think again.

Wooden nail guns.

https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/en

But can it kill a man from a mile away? :-p


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com

[Markem[_2_]]

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 18:27:52 -0600, -MIKE-
wrote:

On 12/6/17 9:45 AM, Leon wrote:
Think again.

Wooden nail guns.

https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/en

But can it kill a man from a mile away? :-p

Maybe a quarter mile? Only equal to an aluminum nail.

[[email protected]]

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 17:23:35 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

"Leon" wrote in message
...

Think again.

Wooden nail guns.

https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/en


One industry that could use this is the coffin industry... Due to religious
standards some coffins cannot contain any metal. As such the assembly is
typically done with dowels. Even if they needed 2-3 times as many wooden
nails as dowels it would be quicker and cheaper.

Is there a religious problem with Dominoes? ;-)

[OFWW[_5_]]

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 09:45:54 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

Think again.

Wooden nail guns.

https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/en

If it works like they say then it would be great for wood fences, the
slat's would not work loose from corrosion, wood shrinkage around the
nail, etc.

Sandable, stainable.

Would love to see a joint test with no glue.

[DerbyDad03]

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 7:27:57 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
On 12/6/17 9:45 AM, Leon wrote:
Think again.

Wooden nail guns.

https://www.beck-lignoloc.com/en

But can it kill a man from a mile away? :-p



It would have given these guys splinters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM26ZXjPL_4

"Nailed 'em both"

[[email protected]]

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 1:27:45 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:

BTY just took a break from Kim and I making another 30 lbs. of sausage. ;~)

Alright! Finishing up some of the last batch we made here, some with Kathy and some with friends. Tried a bunch of other recipes a few months ago, and still like the ones we started with the best.

Since this is tamale season pork will be $1 a pound (or close) soon. That means pork butts for the pit and a lot more sausage. I made some more link sausage last time and it was good, but not epic. When I hit on a really good recipe I will send it on. I will be trying to con my beer making buddy into doing the sausage making at his house so we can drink beer and smoke cigars (he has a small outdoor kitchen) all day while making/smoking the next batch.

An awful way to spend a day, no doubt.

Just thinking about it... 30# of sausage is a helluva lot of sausage! Did you finish off your last batch, or are you prepping for gifts?

Robert

[Leon[_7_]]

On 12/7/2017 12:08 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 1:27:45 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:

BTY just took a break from Kim and I making another 30 lbs. of sausage. ;~)

Alright! Finishing up some of the last batch we made here, some with Kathy and some with friends. Tried a bunch of other recipes a few months ago, and still like the ones we started with the best.

Yeah! Kim added to make the spices stronger this time and feel it is
much better. And we went with a coarse grind. We mistakenly used the
finer grind the first time and the sausage was more like hot dog
consistency. 20 lbs.of breakfast sausage and 10 lbs. of Italian.
About 3-4 hours to make and package.


Since this is tamale season pork will be $1 a pound (or close) soon. That means pork butts for the pit and a lot more sausage. I made some more link sausage last time and it was good, but not epic. When I hit on a really good recipe I will send it on. I will be trying to con my beer making buddy into doing the sausage making at his house so we can drink beer and smoke cigars (he has a small outdoor kitchen) all day while making/smoking the next batch.

We picked up 3, 10 lb. pork shoulders for .99 per pound.



An awful way to spend a day, no doubt.

We were done by about 1:30 in the afternoon. I think my fingers got
frost bite. ;~)



Just thinking about it... 30# of sausage is a helluva lot of sausage! Did you finish off your last batch, or are you prepping for gifts?

We had about 3, 10 oz. packs left, we did give a few away over the past
few months.

Leon

[John Grossbohlin[_4_]]

wrote in message ...

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 17:23:35 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"

One industry that could use this is the coffin industry... Due to
religious
standards some coffins cannot contain any metal. As such the assembly is
typically done with dowels. Even if they needed 2-3 times as many wooden
nails as dowels it would be quicker and cheaper.

Is there a religious problem with Dominoes? ;-)

The name's historical ties to gambling is probably an issue. ;~)

[[email protected]]

On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 16:33:42 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 17:23:35 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"

One industry that could use this is the coffin industry... Due to
religious
standards some coffins cannot contain any metal. As such the assembly is
typically done with dowels. Even if they needed 2-3 times as many wooden
nails as dowels it would be quicker and cheaper.

Is there a religious problem with Dominoes? ;-)

The name's historical ties to gambling is probably an issue. ;~)

Ah, good point. My grandmother thought playing cards was a sin. We
did nothing but play cards when we visited her (nothing else for us
kids to do).

[DerbyDad03]

On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 8:37:21 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 16:33:42 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 17:23:35 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"

One industry that could use this is the coffin industry... Due to
religious
standards some coffins cannot contain any metal. As such the assembly is
typically done with dowels. Even if they needed 2-3 times as many wooden
nails as dowels it would be quicker and cheaper.

Is there a religious problem with Dominoes? ;-)

The name's historical ties to gambling is probably an issue. ;~)

Ah, good point. My grandmother thought playing cards was a sin.

My grandmother thought it was a sin if we *didn't* play cards.

Whist as group, Gin Rummy one-on-one. If she wasn't making pierogies,
she was playing solitaire.

My brothers and I are renting a house for a big family Christmas. I
can't wait to see their faces when I whip out Grandma's Michigan Rummy
board and a big jar of pennies.

https://i.imgur.com/0XdMkYb.jpg

[Ed Pawlowski]

One industry that could use this is the coffin industry... Due to
religious
standards some coffins cannot contain any metal. As such the assembly is
typically done with dowels. Even if they needed 2-3 times as many wooden
nails as dowels it would be quicker and cheaper.

Is there a religious problem with Dominoes? ;-)


Pizza at a funeral would be good, but you can do better than Dominoes.

[Leon[_7_]]

On 12/7/2017 8:06 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 8:37:21 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 16:33:42 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 17:23:35 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"

One industry that could use this is the coffin industry... Due to
religious
standards some coffins cannot contain any metal. As such the assembly is
typically done with dowels. Even if they needed 2-3 times as many wooden
nails as dowels it would be quicker and cheaper.

Is there a religious problem with Dominoes? ;-)

The name's historical ties to gambling is probably an issue. ;~)

Ah, good point. My grandmother thought playing cards was a sin.

My grandmother thought it was a sin if we *didn't* play cards.

Whist as group, Gin Rummy one-on-one. If she wasn't making pierogies,
she was playing solitaire.

My brothers and I are renting a house for a big family Christmas. I
can't wait to see their faces when I whip out Grandma's Michigan Rummy
board and a big jar of pennies.

https://i.imgur.com/0XdMkYb.jpg


ARE YOU POLISH? My son just married into a polish family and the
wedding was grand, steeped heavily in Polish tradition. Our family grew
exponentially. Her mother and father are one of 8 kids from each
family. I think they were all there. LOL

Out in Bandara, Texas, aka Bantucky. ;~)

On scene minutes after leaving the church, great photographer that was
taking pictures for 8 hours.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

[[email protected]]

On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 09:30:00 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


One industry that could use this is the coffin industry... Due to
religious
standards some coffins cannot contain any metal. As such the assembly is
typically done with dowels. Even if they needed 2-3 times as many wooden
nails as dowels it would be quicker and cheaper.

Is there a religious problem with Dominoes? ;-)


Pizza at a funeral would be good, but you can do better than Dominoes.

Same ingredients.

[DerbyDad03]

On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 9:49:18 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 12/7/2017 8:06 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 8:37:21 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 16:33:42 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 17:23:35 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"

One industry that could use this is the coffin industry... Due to
religious
standards some coffins cannot contain any metal. As such the assembly is
typically done with dowels. Even if they needed 2-3 times as many wooden
nails as dowels it would be quicker and cheaper.

Is there a religious problem with Dominoes? ;-)

The name's historical ties to gambling is probably an issue. ;~)

Ah, good point. My grandmother thought playing cards was a sin.

My grandmother thought it was a sin if we *didn't* play cards.

Whist as group, Gin Rummy one-on-one. If she wasn't making pierogies,
she was playing solitaire.

My brothers and I are renting a house for a big family Christmas. I
can't wait to see their faces when I whip out Grandma's Michigan Rummy
board and a big jar of pennies.

https://i.imgur.com/0XdMkYb.jpg


ARE YOU POLISH?

Genetically, about 25¢ worth (Grandma). Another 25¢ is French Canadian
(Grandpa). The other half a buck is Italian from my Dad's side.

In practice, I'm just about all Italian. My family is originally from
Massachusetts, but I grew up in NYC with a bunch of Italian friends.

While we practiced a few Polish customs at Grandma's house (pierogies at
Easter and Christmas, oplatek on Christmas Eve [still do that]) my maternal
grandparents were pretty much "Americanized". My paternal Grandparents, on
the other hand, were old school Italians. Grandpa came to the US, started a
business, established himself and then went back to the old country to "find
a wife and bring her to America". I remember hanging out at the Italian Club
where the men drank port wine and played Bocce every Sunday after Mass.


On scene minutes after leaving the church, great photographer that was
taking pictures for 8 hours.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

Beautiful couple. Congratulations.

[Leon[_7_]]

On 12/8/2017 8:06 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 9:49:18 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 12/7/2017 8:06 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 8:37:21 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 16:33:42 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 17:23:35 -0500, "John Grossbohlin"

One industry that could use this is the coffin industry... Due to
religious
standards some coffins cannot contain any metal. As such the assembly is
typically done with dowels. Even if they needed 2-3 times as many wooden
nails as dowels it would be quicker and cheaper.

Is there a religious problem with Dominoes? ;-)

The name's historical ties to gambling is probably an issue. ;~)

Ah, good point. My grandmother thought playing cards was a sin.

My grandmother thought it was a sin if we *didn't* play cards.

Whist as group, Gin Rummy one-on-one. If she wasn't making pierogies,
she was playing solitaire.

My brothers and I are renting a house for a big family Christmas. I
can't wait to see their faces when I whip out Grandma's Michigan Rummy
board and a big jar of pennies.

https://i.imgur.com/0XdMkYb.jpg


ARE YOU POLISH?

Genetically, about 25¢ worth (Grandma). Another 25¢ is French Canadian
(Grandpa). The other half a buck is Italian from my Dad's side.

In practice, I'm just about all Italian. My family is originally from
Massachusetts, but I grew up in NYC with a bunch of Italian friends.





While we practiced a few Polish customs at Grandma's house (pierogies at
Easter and Christmas, oplatek on Christmas Eve [still do that]) my maternal
grandparents were pretty much "Americanized". My paternal Grandparents, on
the other hand, were old school Italians. Grandpa came to the US, started a
business, established himself and then went back to the old country to "find
a wife and bring her to America". I remember hanging out at the Italian Club
where the men drank port wine and played Bocce every Sunday after Mass.


On scene minutes after leaving the church, great photographer that was
taking pictures for 8 hours.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/

Beautiful couple. Congratulations.


Thank you!