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Table Saw Magic - anyone built any of the jigs?
Folks -
I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs or made any mods? He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a ~6" vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It has a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence jigs could be easily combined. I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going together, but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the book, I am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on the bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas and methods in this book. I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your feedback. John Moorhead Lakeport CA |
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Table Saw Magic - anyone built any of the jigs?
I haven't built any, but I know Ian Kirby had a similar raised panel sled
jig in a issue of American Woodworker. Tony D. "john moorhead" wrote in message news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03... Folks - I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs or made any mods? He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a ~6" vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It has a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence jigs could be easily combined. I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going together, but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the book, I am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on the bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas and methods in this book. I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your feedback. John Moorhead Lakeport CA |
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John,
Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are you replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I guess I am going to have to get the book. "john moorhead" wrote in message news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03... Folks - I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs or made any mods? He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a ~6" vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It has a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence jigs could be easily combined. I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going together, but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the book, I am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on the bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas and methods in this book. I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your feedback. John Moorhead Lakeport CA |
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What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw,
jointer, etc? "Nuttree" wrote in message news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no... John, Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are you replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I guess I am going to have to get the book. "john moorhead" wrote in message news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03... Folks - I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs or made any mods? He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a ~6" vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It has a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence jigs could be easily combined. I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going together, but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the book, I am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on the bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas and methods in this book. I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your feedback. John Moorhead Lakeport CA |
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Dave wrote:
What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw, jointer, etc? "The exploding kind." No, sorry, that's a line from a "Pink Panther" movie. g I use Johnson's Paste Wax. -- Mark |
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In article , "Dave" wrote:
What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw, jointer, etc? Any paste wax that does not contain silicone (which causes problems with finishes). Avoid automobile waxes for this reason. Johnson's Paste Wax and Minwax Paste Finishing Wax do not contain silicone. I believe there are others, also -- DAGS (do a Google search) on this newsgroup, and you'll probably find the names of one or two other silicone-free brands. -- Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America? |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:05:59 -0500, "Dave"
wrote: What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw, jointer, etc? I have been using Johnson's Paste wax for years. Pay no attention to the rumor that this product is discontinued. Available everywhere in the US. |
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Table Saw Magic - anyone built any of the jigs?
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The universal fence is cradled between the two sides of the bies fence. I wanted a better way to secure it so I put a barbed threaded insert into a cleat and then sheet metal screwed the cleats, one in the front and one in the back, to the bies. I measured off the center point for everything so that now the fence will mount facing either to the left or right side of the fence using the same mounting holes. Might be handy for raised panels... I am putting another piece of wood down the center of the top of the bies fence, in between the cleats. It has a t track in it so that I can mount and move my board buddies around. The channel arrangement also gets sheet metal screwed to the top of the bies. This provides additional support for the center of the universal fence and makes it easier to shim it square to the TS table. I'm not one for drilling holes in fences unneccesarily, but I *really* like where Tolpin is going with his jigs - I've solved problems in my head with his jigs that I haven't built yet... Did that make sense? You get the idea... Several of the auxillary fences that are used with the universal fence work with a slip fit using UHMW plastic. I may or may not have any left, or I'll use laminate strips. Toplin is a big fan of T track, destaco clamps and assorted knobs, hold downs and the like. I've found the best price for T track at Grizzly - 8 bucks for 36" vs. 13 at woodcraft. For hardware knobs and the like, Grizzly has better prices too. Harbor freight had a good price on De staco clamps, but I have also got 'em on ebay at decent price. If you have any surplus stores in your area, I'd check there.... My only crit of Tolpin's book is that it would have been more convenient to have an appendix of all his jigs. As is, they pop up in the book according to the task being taught and so there is some flipping about. The index is a bit lacking as well. This may be more a point for his editors... I also have "The Table Saw Book" by Kelly Mehler, and would recommend it, but I'd still put Tolpin's TSM at the top of the list. My 02... John Moorhead Lakeport CA "Nuttree" wrote in message news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no... John, Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are you replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I guess I am going to have to get the book. "john moorhead" wrote in message news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03... Folks - I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs or made any mods? He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a ~6" vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It has a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence jigs could be easily combined. I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going together, but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the book, I am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on the bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas and methods in this book. I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your feedback. John Moorhead Lakeport CA |
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3M makes a product called T9. Supposed to work great. Haven't tried it yet
though. "Dave" wrote in message ... What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw, jointer, etc? "Nuttree" wrote in message news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no... John, Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are you replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I guess I am going to have to get the book. "john moorhead" wrote in message news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03... Folks - I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs or made any mods? He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a ~6" vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It has a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence jigs could be easily combined. I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going together, but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the book, I am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on the bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas and methods in this book. I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your feedback. John Moorhead Lakeport CA |
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T9 is made by Boeshield and isn't for use with an actively used TS top.
It's fine for storage times. It leaves too much of a film. Use wax instead. dave Phil wrote: 3M makes a product called T9. Supposed to work great. Haven't tried it yet though. "Dave" wrote in message ... What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw, jointer, etc? "Nuttree" wrote in message news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no... John, Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are you replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I guess I am going to have to get the book. "john moorhead" wrote in message news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03... Folks - I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs or made any mods? He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a ~6" vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It has a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence jigs could be easily combined. I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going together, but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the book, I am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on the bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas and methods in this book. I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your feedback. John Moorhead Lakeport CA |
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correction: T-9 is made for PMS Products of Michigan. The trademark
Boeshield is licensed to the Boeing Company. Bay Area Dave wrote: T9 is made by Boeshield and isn't for use with an actively used TS top. It's fine for storage times. It leaves too much of a film. Use wax instead. dave Phil wrote: 3M makes a product called T9. Supposed to work great. Haven't tried it yet though. "Dave" wrote in message ... What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw, jointer, etc? "Nuttree" wrote in message news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no... John, Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are you replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I guess I am going to have to get the book. "john moorhead" wrote in message news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03... Folks - I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs or made any mods? He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a ~6" vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It has a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence jigs could be easily combined. I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going together, but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the book, I am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on the bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas and methods in this book. I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your feedback. John Moorhead Lakeport CA |
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In article , (Chris) wrote:
(Doug Miller) wrote in message om... In article , wrote: Well... it's available, yes, but "everywhere" is a substantial exaggeration: try finding it at Wal-Mart, for example, or Kroger. Good luck. Ya gotta know where to look. Supposedly, Home Depot and Lowe's stock it in some areas of the country, but not where I live (Indianapolis). Small hardware stores seem to be the best places to look. Try looking in one of the paint aisles near the stains. I am not trying to be a wise-ass, I just know that when I asked at my local HD I was told that they didn't carry it (by several HD drones) but I finally found it with the stains and varnishes. I have seen it at every HD that I have looked. All I've ever seen in the paint/stain aisles at either Lowe's or HD is Minwax Paste Finishing Wax, never any Johnson's Paste Wax. But I'll look again the next time I'm there. Thanks. -- Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America? |
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T9 is NOT a 3M product
John On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:33:18 -0500, "Phil" wrote: 3M makes a product called T9. Supposed to work great. Haven't tried it yet though. "Dave" wrote in message . .. What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw, jointer, etc? "Nuttree" wrote in message news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no... John, Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are you replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I guess I am going to have to get the book. "john moorhead" wrote in message news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03... Folks - I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs or made any mods? He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a ~6" vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It has a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence jigs could be easily combined. I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going together, but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the book, I am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on the bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas and methods in this book. I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your feedback. John Moorhead Lakeport CA |
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In article , Doug
Miller wrote: All I've ever seen in the paint/stain aisles at either Lowe's or HD is Minwax Paste Finishing Wax, never any Johnson's Paste Wax. But I'll look again the next time I'm there. Thanks. Minwax works great. djb -- There are no socks in my email address. "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" |
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Try looking for 'Butcher's Bowling Alley Wax' . . . yellow & red can
Ron Magen Backyard Boatshop "Doug Miller" wrote in message news SNIP All I've ever seen in the paint/stain aisles at either Lowe's or HD is Minwax Paste Finishing Wax, never any Johnson's Paste Wax. But I'll look again the next time I'm there. Thanks. |
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On 26 Jan 2004 09:28:05 -0800, (Chris)
wrote: (Doug Miller) wrote in message om... In article , wrote: Well... it's available, yes, but "everywhere" is a substantial exaggeration: try finding it at Wal-Mart, for example, or Kroger. Good luck. Ya gotta know where to look. Supposedly, Home Depot and Lowe's stock it in some areas of the country, but not where I live (Indianapolis). Small hardware stores seem to be the best places to look. Try looking in one of the paint aisles near the stains. I am not trying to be a wise-ass, I just know that when I asked at my local HD I was told that they didn't carry it (by several HD drones) but I finally found it with the stains and varnishes. I have seen it at every HD that I have looked. -Chris Stores put in strange places. I've found it in the paint section at Lowes and WalMart. And in the cleaning section at Home Depot and several grocery stores. A can of it lasts me about 5 years. |
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Try looking for 'Butcher's Bowling Alley Wax' . . . yellow & red can
I saw this used in a picture in a woodworking magazine. What surprised me was that it looked like a half pound can. I thought "bowling alley wax" would be in huge drums. |
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I use a "special" was made from Johnson's. Harder'n a
rock and almost bulletproof. When you finally find Johnson's wax, do this: (all measuring by volume) 1/3 Johnsons wax 1/3 Carnuba flakes 1/3 Pure beeswax Melt slowly in an old aluminum coffeepot (thriftstore $1.00) on a hotplate OUTSIDE!! When melted together, remove from heat and blend in enough pure turpentine to make a paste again. (I often do the melting/hardening thing several times til I get the consistency I want.) What you're looking for is a barely workable paste--(hard) This stuff goes on stiff and needs to be buffed out almost immediately. You can give yourself more time by adding more turp. Once you get this stuff rubbed in everywhere--miter slot, extension wings, fence rails. table top and fence surfaces, you'll have a very slippery, HARD surface that will not give you finishing problems when you drag your wood across it. My CI Delta Contractor's saw sits outside year round for the past 3yrs--right now covered by 18" of snow (tarped) and the metal surfaces show no ill effects. Spring and Fall I strip with lacquer thinner and re-apply the wax, heating surfaces somewhat with a heat gun for initial light coat, then final protective coat. Holds up well between the 100plus to minus20 degree temp swings we have here in Montana. Roger John Crea wrote in message . .. T9 is NOT a 3M product John On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:33:18 -0500, "Phil" wrote: 3M makes a product called T9. Supposed to work great. Haven't tried it yet though. "Dave" wrote in message . .. What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw, jointer, etc? "Nuttree" wrote in message news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no... John, Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are you replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I guess I am going to have to get the book. "john moorhead" wrote in message news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03... Folks - I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs or made any mods? He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a ~6" vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It has a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence jigs could be easily combined. I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going together, but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the book, I am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on the bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas and methods in this book. I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your feedback. John Moorhead Lakeport CA |
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Doug Miller wrote:
All I've ever seen in the paint/stain aisles at either Lowe's or HD is Minwax Paste Finishing Wax, never any Johnson's Paste Wax. But I'll look again the next time I'm there. Thanks. I just found some at Lowe's. SWMBO knew just where to look, but damn if I remember where it was. Some girlie aisle I usually ignore, probably. They had tons of it (about 20 cans), and it didn't look like it was in any danger of being discontinued. If anyone is having trouble coming by a can of the stuff, I can buy it and mail it. I forget how much it was. Um. 44690 16 OZ FINE WOOD P 4.74 There you go. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ |
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In article , Silvan
wrote: Doug Miller wrote: All I've ever seen in the paint/stain aisles at either Lowe's or HD is Minwax Paste Finishing Wax, never any Johnson's Paste Wax. But I'll look again the next time I'm there. Thanks. I found it in the cleaning supplies aisle, not the finishing aisle. Allen Catonsville, MD |
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In article , Allen Epps wrote:
In article , Silvan wrote: Doug Miller wrote: All I've ever seen in the paint/stain aisles at either Lowe's or HD is Minwax Paste Finishing Wax, never any Johnson's Paste Wax. But I'll look again the next time I'm there. Thanks. I found it in the cleaning supplies aisle, not the finishing aisle. I looked there *first*! :-( I see you're in MD. Must be a regional kinda thing. None of the Borgs in Indianapolis seem to have it anywhere. -- Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America? |
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In article , Silvan wrote:
Doug Miller wrote: All I've ever seen in the paint/stain aisles at either Lowe's or HD is Minwax Paste Finishing Wax, never any Johnson's Paste Wax. But I'll look again the next time I'm there. Thanks. I just found some at Lowe's. SWMBO knew just where to look, but damn if I remember where it was. Some girlie aisle I usually ignore, probably. They had tons of it (about 20 cans), and it didn't look like it was in any danger of being discontinued. If anyone is having trouble coming by a can of the stuff, I can buy it and mail it. I forget how much it was. Um. 44690 16 OZ FINE WOOD P 4.74 There you go. Thanks -- I'll check on that. -- Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America? |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:05:59 -0500, "Dave"
wrote: What kind of wax should be used to apply to the top of the table saw, jointer, etc? "Nuttree" wrote in message news:UESQb.265353$X%5.84477@pd7tw2no... John, Are this jigs going to fit over the General (Bessy clone) fence or are you replacing it? Do they fit with friction or do they fasten some how? I guess I am going to have to get the book. "john moorhead" wrote in message news:9KJQb.15949$U%5.112197@attbi_s03... Folks - I've been going over "Table Saw Magic" by Jim Tolpin and have started building some of the jigs in the book. Have any of you built his jigs or made any mods? He has a "Universal Fence" that everything else attaches to. It is a ~6" vertical fence that is cradled on the top of your existing rip fence. It has a T track and a couple of captive nuts, for attaching other jigs or accesories. I built it yesterday, that's the first step. Next is a vertical sled, which I am building. Toward the end of the book there's a raised panel sled that lets RT saw owners work on the right side while keeping the blade vertical. It seems as if these two vertical fence jigs could be easily combined. I haven't *used* the two jigs I've built yet, they're still going together, but everthing looks promising. In looking at the other jigs in the book, I am continually going "A-HA!". While I may not be the sharpest tool on the bench, I know my kindling and Tolpin has some *really* insightful ideas and methods in this book. I'd be interested to know if any of you have built his jigs and your feedback. John Moorhead Lakeport CA I've always used butcher's wax. Same stuff I use for wood to wood drawer and table slide runners. Rub it on and buff it out. |
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