[Markem[_2_]]

So I was going through the tools I brought home from my parents condo,
the tool I remember my dad using was his router a Stanley 8-B. It is
still in running condition has a bit in it that is sharp. It is the
memories with old tools that are the best.

[Iggy]

replying to Markem, Iggy wrote:
Absolutely! Until, you realize what piece of crap the thing is.

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On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 6:16:01 PM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
So I was going through the tools I brought home from my parents condo,
the tool I remember my dad using was his router a Stanley 8-B. It is
still in running condition has a bit in it that is sharp. It is the
memories with old tools that are the best.

My grandfather was a notorious skinflint, and thought tools were a necessary evil he had to have to do minor home repairs and work on his fishing boat and trailer. He bought the absolutely cheapest tools he could and never took care of them.

My Dad learned from his Dad, and in fairness, neither of them made a living using hand tools. My Dad loved a good bargain on a tool, and when he passed most of the tools he had were of no value or were broken simply from their low quality.

There was one time he bought a good tool; he sprang for a Rockwell circular saw, the famous 346C. By the time I went in the trades in '72 it was already and old timer and was only in production a couple more years after that.. It was his only big investment in tools and he loved that saw. I came with its own steel case, a special set of wrenches to remove the blade and a tube of genuine "Rockwell machinery grade lubricating grease". My Dad loved that saw and never made anything but straight cuts with it. He kept it clean, greased, and worked the hell out of it even on small projects because he never would buy a new blade. The saw was always working harder than it should have.

But I remember back in those days when I was shown how to touch up a circular saw blade with a #8 mill ******* file. If the blade had not been damaged in use and all you were doing was sharpening, then with a file you could get an edge on the blade that was better than any edge you got from the factory. Although that saw hasn't been turned on in 20 years, I still have it..

My fondest memory of him and his prized saw was how completely pleased the look on his face was after I hand sharpened a blade for him and let him cut a couple of boards with his first hand filed blade. He loved that saw, and that file sharpened blade made him love it even more. Those hand filed blades are still on the "saw blade card" I made for him. Some are still sharp as he didn't want to use them enough to dull the edges, even though that was the reason I sharpened them in the first place.

My Dad and me didn't have much in common. But something he could spend hours talking to me about was building little projects and using that saw. I am glad I still have it.

Robert

[DerbyDad03]

On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 1:16:58 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 6:16:01 PM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
So I was going through the tools I brought home from my parents condo,
the tool I remember my dad using was his router a Stanley 8-B. It is
still in running condition has a bit in it that is sharp. It is the
memories with old tools that are the best.

My grandfather was a notorious skinflint, and thought tools were a necessary evil he had to have to do minor home repairs and work on his fishing boat and trailer. He bought the absolutely cheapest tools he could and never took care of them.

My Dad learned from his Dad, and in fairness, neither of them made a living using hand tools. My Dad loved a good bargain on a tool, and when he passed most of the tools he had were of no value or were broken simply from their low quality.

There was one time he bought a good tool; he sprang for a Rockwell circular saw, the famous 346C. By the time I went in the trades in '72 it was already and old timer and was only in production a couple more years after that. It was his only big investment in tools and he loved that saw. I came with its own steel case, a special set of wrenches to remove the blade and a tube of genuine "Rockwell machinery grade lubricating grease". My Dad loved that saw and never made anything but straight cuts with it. He kept it clean, greased, and worked the hell out of it even on small projects because he never would buy a new blade. The saw was always working harder than it should have.

But I remember back in those days when I was shown how to touch up a circular saw blade with a #8 mill ******* file. If the blade had not been damaged in use and all you were doing was sharpening, then with a file you could get an edge on the blade that was better than any edge you got from the factory. Although that saw hasn't been turned on in 20 years, I still have it.

My fondest memory of him and his prized saw was how completely pleased the look on his face was after I hand sharpened a blade for him and let him cut a couple of boards with his first hand filed blade. He loved that saw, and that file sharpened blade made him love it even more. Those hand filed blades are still on the "saw blade card" I made for him. Some are still sharp as he didn't want to use them enough to dull the edges, even though that was the reason I sharpened them in the first place.

My Dad and me didn't have much in common. But something he could spend hours talking to me about was building little projects and using that saw. I am glad I still have it.

Robert

You should use the saw to make something in his honor. Some "little project", like he would have
used it for.

[Markem[_2_]]

On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:44:04 GMT, Iggy
m wrote:

replying to Markem, Iggy wrote:
Absolutely! Until, you realize what piece of crap the thing is.

You have no idea as to what you are talking about other than trying to
goad me into something.

[Iggy]

replying to Markem, Iggy wrote:
Nope, just my own experience and I'm sorry you couldn't even take that comment
light heartedly, tough room. I don't goad nor go after anyone, but I do stand
up for myself. True idiots (like yourself, now apparent) vulture me and then,
unbelievably, paint me as the troll for simply sticking to my guns, which are
true and correct. But, I'm expected to be a drooling spineless wimp and agree
with their very wrong take on EVERYTHING to not be a troll by the rest of
their gay clique. Hooray for you, Dad was a dumb cheapskate. His dumb fits you
perfectly.

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[DerbyDad03]

On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 4:14:07 PM UTC-5, Iggy wrote:
replying to Markem, Iggy wrote:
Nope, just my own experience and I'm sorry you couldn't even take that comment
light heartedly, tough room. I don't goad nor go after anyone, but I do stand
up for myself. True idiots (like yourself, now apparent) vulture me and then,
unbelievably, paint me as the troll for simply sticking to my guns, which are
true and correct. But, I'm expected to be a drooling spineless wimp and agree
with their very wrong take on EVERYTHING to not be a troll by the rest of
their gay clique. Hooray for you, Dad was a dumb cheapskate. His dumb fits you
perfectly.


"I don't goad nor go after anyone"

"Dad was a dumb cheapskate"

Standing up for yourself one-on-one against Markem is your right. Going
after his Dad, who has not said a single word to or about you, just makes
you a bigger asshole than you usually are.

[Markem[_2_]]

On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 21:14:02 GMT, Iggy
m wrote:

replying to Markem, Iggy wrote:
Nope, just my own experience and I'm sorry you couldn't even take that comment
light heartedly, tough room. I don't goad nor go after anyone, but I do stand
up for myself. True idiots (like yourself, now apparent) vulture me and then,
unbelievably, paint me as the troll for simply sticking to my guns, which are
true and correct. But, I'm expected to be a drooling spineless wimp and agree
with their very wrong take on EVERYTHING to not be a troll by the rest of
their gay clique. Hooray for you, Dad was a dumb cheapskate. His dumb fits you
perfectly.

Tempted but nah refer Iggy to AUK for the entertainment value, that is
not right cause he is not of usenet. Such a predictable asshat you are
sir.

[Markem[_2_]]

On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:32:59 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 4:14:07 PM UTC-5, Iggy wrote:
replying to Markem, Iggy wrote:
Nope, just my own experience and I'm sorry you couldn't even take that comment
light heartedly, tough room. I don't goad nor go after anyone, but I do stand
up for myself. True idiots (like yourself, now apparent) vulture me and then,
unbelievably, paint me as the troll for simply sticking to my guns, which are
true and correct. But, I'm expected to be a drooling spineless wimp and agree
with their very wrong take on EVERYTHING to not be a troll by the rest of
their gay clique. Hooray for you, Dad was a dumb cheapskate. His dumb fits you
perfectly.


"I don't goad nor go after anyone"

"Dad was a dumb cheapskate"

Standing up for yourself one-on-one against Markem is your right. Going
after his Dad, who has not said a single word to or about you, just makes
you a bigger asshole than you usually are.

He (my dad) died two years ago in December, the Stanley Router was
bought back in 1968 I think was not a cheap tool. The fact that it
runs like a champ only at just under 40 years might disprove Iggy's
thoughts, which carry's a weight less than a hydrogen atom nuclei.

[Iggy]

replying to DerbyDad03, Iggy wrote:
Learn how to read, the tool brought up his dip**** Dad. What makes me an
asshole? Giving back what's moronically and baselessly hurled at me? Yeah,
it's a wonder why the world's so stupid with Dad's like you raising Mama's
boys like Markem.

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On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 03:14:03 GMT, Iggy
m wrote:

replying to DerbyDad03, Iggy wrote:
Learn how to read, the tool brought up his dip**** Dad. What makes me an
asshole? Giving back what's moronically and baselessly hurled at me? Yeah,
it's a wonder why the world's so stupid with Dad's like you raising Mama's
boys like Markem.

No, Iggy. You make you an asshole.

[DerbyDad03]

On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 10:14:07 PM UTC-5, Iggy wrote:
replying to DerbyDad03, Iggy wrote:
Learn how to read, the tool brought up his dip**** Dad. What makes me an
asshole? Giving back what's moronically and baselessly hurled at me? Yeah,
it's a wonder why the world's so stupid with Dad's like you raising Mama's
boys like Markem.


Yep, he brought up his dad...and then you proceeded to insult his dad. If you don't think that
makes you an asshole, you don't know the definition.

Wait...maybe you aren't an asshole. You might have us all fooled. Maybe you're just a troll.

Either way, you're useless.

[Iggy]

replying to DerbyDad03, Iggy wrote:
Uh huh. I make a NON-derogatory comment, as usual, and even completely agree
with the dumbass just to get told to f-off. Yep, I'm the dick, but dickless
isn't. Great. I need me some of that autism stuff, then maybe you douchebags
will start making sense.

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On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 8:30:11 PM UTC-6, Markem wrote:

He (my dad) died two years ago in December, the Stanley Router was
bought back in 1968 I think was not a cheap tool. The fact that it
runs like a champ only at just under 40 years

It was definitely NOT a cheap tool. Not cheaply made, and not cheap in purchase. At that time, Stanley had not "homeowner" or throwaway tool line. ALL of their products were made here and were considered trade or craftsman tools. We had two, just two tool stores here, and everyone else went to Sears, Montgomery Wards, and even Penney's for less hard working tools.

At those two stores, for me as a young man learning the trades, it was like going to church. The brands were Millers Falls, Blue Grass, Milwaukee (just a very few tools then), Porter Cable, Rockwell, and Stanley. EVERYTHING there was expensive, but you bought it there because it was meant to be used to make a living day in and day out. Unlike today's tools, they were meant to be repaired. You put switches, bearings, brushes and replaced an occasional broken part on those tools and they lasted for years.

Not as old, but the only drill I owned for years that was used to drill wood and and metal and also used a driver is a Milwaukee hole shooter. It is 42 years old, runs great, still has some power to it. When I could buy a Black and Decker drill for (literally) $7, this drill cost $115 or so.

Likewise my oldest circular saw. It is the same vintage, has had 3 or 4 triggers put in it, at least that many sets of brushes, and has had the bearings in it replaced 3 times. It is a Milwaukee, too. It is a Milwaukee because I couldn't afford the Millers Falls or Stanley top line circular saw.

So yeah, take it from someone that probably used that exact router from way back when, it is a great tool and still has a lot of road miles left on it..

might disprove Iggy's
thoughts, which carry's a weight less than a hydrogen atom nuclei.

And yet, you guys can't wait to respond to him. You drag him along in these threads, they take a bad turn and then no one wants to participate. I was personally hoping to hear more stories of guys that tools that had a special meaning to them, but when the threads devolve into responding to troll bait, the last few folks here that participate shrug their shoulders and walk off.

Isn't there any way you guys, knowing that he is a deliberately inflammatory troll, can find a way or the strength to ignore him?

Robert

[Markem[_2_]]

On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 08:43:38 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

Isn't there any way you guys, knowing that he is a deliberately inflammatory troll, can find a way or the strength to ignore him?

Could ignore him, but was hoping get so ****ed off he would voilate
HOH TOS then get him thrown off it, but I guess I am letting that go.