OK - first project finished. In Red oak. Applied two coats tung oil and it
looks good. Been advised to wax it now with something like minwax finishing
wax? Is this a good idea? can i reapply tung oil later as needed if I've
waxed it? thanks... Mike.

"mike" wrote in message
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OK - first project finished. In Red oak. Applied two coats tung oil and it
looks good. Been advised to wax it now with something like minwax
finishing
wax? Is this a good idea? can i reapply tung oil later as needed if I've
waxed it? thanks... Mike.

Better suggestions might come if you indicate what you are looking for in a
finish. The wax will basically give it "some" shine and very little
protection.
If you give it a satin or semi gloss varnish finish you will add protection
with a similar shine to wax and not have to do any thing else to the piece.

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"mike" wrote in message
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OK - first project finished. In Red oak. Applied two coats tung oil
and it looks good. Been advised to wax it now with something like
minwax finishing
wax? Is this a good idea? can i reapply tung oil later as needed if
I've waxed it? thanks... Mike.

Better suggestions might come if you indicate what you are looking for
in a finish. The wax will basically give it "some" shine and very
little protection.
If you give it a satin or semi gloss varnish finish you will add
protection with a similar shine to wax and not have to do any thing
else to the piece.

I'm looking for a finish I can easily repair, while it's not a 'high
traffic' use I'm expecting it will get scratched, water marks and the
like. Just want to be able to easily maintain it while it develops some
character. Don't like stripping gloss poly each time I needed to repair a
finish. Hence the tung, easy to apply for a klutz like me and great
results. I'm not looking for a gloss finish so the tung oil with a little
shine is about right. I was lead to understand teh wax would increase the
protection from liquid marks.

Thanks for the reply.. mike.

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"mike" wrote in message
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OK - first project finished. In Red oak. Applied two coats tung oil
and it looks good. Been advised to wax it now with something like
minwax finishing
wax? Is this a good idea? can i reapply tung oil later as needed if
I've waxed it? thanks... Mike.

Better suggestions might come if you indicate what you are looking for
in a finish. The wax will basically give it "some" shine and very
little protection.
If you give it a satin or semi gloss varnish finish you will add
protection with a similar shine to wax and not have to do any thing
else to the piece.

I'm looking for a finish I can easily repair, while it's not a 'high
traffic' use I'm expecting it will get scratched, water marks and the
like. Just want to be able to easily maintain it while it develops some
character. Don't like stripping gloss poly each time I needed to repair a
finish. Hence the tung, easy to apply for a klutz like me and great
results. I'm not looking for a gloss finish so the tung oil with a little
shine is about right. I was lead to understand teh wax would increase the
protection from liquid marks.

Thanks for the reply.. mike.

I assume by Tung Oil you are referring to "Tung Oil Finish" sold by Minwax
or the like. It isn't really tung oil as most will tell you here. It is
really a wiping varnish.

I assume by "liquid marks" you mean those left by a cold glass on a humid
day. IMHO the "tung oil finish"/wiping varnish should hold up fine.

If you are really referring to 100% Tung oil, I think you will get better
protection from wiping varnish.
--
Stoutman
http://www.garagewoodworks.com
(Featuring a NEW look)

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"mike" wrote in message
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OK - first project finished. In Red oak. Applied two coats tung oil
and it looks good. Been advised to wax it now with something like
minwax finishing
wax? Is this a good idea? can i reapply tung oil later as needed
if I've waxed it? thanks... Mike.

Better suggestions might come if you indicate what you are looking
for in a finish. The wax will basically give it "some" shine and
very little protection.
If you give it a satin or semi gloss varnish finish you will add
protection with a similar shine to wax and not have to do any thing
else to the piece.

I'm looking for a finish I can easily repair, while it's not a 'high
traffic' use I'm expecting it will get scratched, water marks and the
like. Just want to be able to easily maintain it while it develops
some character. Don't like stripping gloss poly each time I needed to
repair a finish. Hence the tung, easy to apply for a klutz like me
and great results. I'm not looking for a gloss finish so the tung oil
with a little shine is about right. I was lead to understand teh wax
would increase the protection from liquid marks.

Thanks for the reply.. mike.

I assume by Tung Oil you are referring to "Tung Oil Finish" sold by
Minwax or the like. It isn't really tung oil as most will tell you
here. It is really a wiping varnish.

I assume by "liquid marks" you mean those left by a cold glass on a
humid day. IMHO the "tung oil finish"/wiping varnish should hold up
fine.

If you are really referring to 100% Tung oil, I think you will get
better protection from wiping varnish.

Thanks.. Correct in your assumptions except that, nope - I went out and
bought 100% tung oil. So I would have been better to buy the
polymerised/varnish type? I can apply that right over tung oil i
presume.. What about the idea of waxing after the tung oil?

Thanks again..

Thanks.. Correct in your assumptions except that, nope - I went out and
bought 100% tung oil. So I would have been better to buy the
polymerised/varnish type?

To be completely honest I have never used 100% Tung Oil, only the "tung oil
finish" sold by Minwax, which really isn't tung oil.. Although, I still like
the results I obtain with their product.

Flexner states ---(from Understanding Wood Finishes) that in order to get
decent water protection you need about 5-6 coats of tung oil, but it will
not resist scratches very well.

I'm sure there are others in this group with experience using 100% tung oil
that would be more helpful to you than myself.

I just wanted to check if you were actually using the real deal.

I have used wax over tung oil many times, on boxes and such that don't get
much abuse. You can easily reapply wax if needed. However, tung oil is a
penetrating oil that polymerizes when exposed to oxygen (air). If there is
a wax coating, it won't penetrate when reapplied. If you need maximum wear
resistance, try something like a floor finish.

Steve

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"Leon" wrote in
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"mike" wrote in message
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OK - first project finished. In Red oak. Applied two coats tung oil
and it looks good. Been advised to wax it now with something like
minwax finishing
wax? Is this a good idea? can i reapply tung oil later as needed
if I've waxed it? thanks... Mike.

Better suggestions might come if you indicate what you are looking
for in a finish. The wax will basically give it "some" shine and
very little protection.
If you give it a satin or semi gloss varnish finish you will add
protection with a similar shine to wax and not have to do any thing
else to the piece.

I'm looking for a finish I can easily repair, while it's not a 'high
traffic' use I'm expecting it will get scratched, water marks and the
like. Just want to be able to easily maintain it while it develops
some character. Don't like stripping gloss poly each time I needed to
repair a finish. Hence the tung, easy to apply for a klutz like me
and great results. I'm not looking for a gloss finish so the tung oil
with a little shine is about right. I was lead to understand teh wax
would increase the protection from liquid marks.

Thanks for the reply.. mike.

I assume by Tung Oil you are referring to "Tung Oil Finish" sold by
Minwax or the like. It isn't really tung oil as most will tell you
here. It is really a wiping varnish.

I assume by "liquid marks" you mean those left by a cold glass on a
humid day. IMHO the "tung oil finish"/wiping varnish should hold up
fine.

If you are really referring to 100% Tung oil, I think you will get
better protection from wiping varnish.

Thanks.. Correct in your assumptions except that, nope - I went out and
bought 100% tung oil. So I would have been better to buy the
polymerised/varnish type? I can apply that right over tung oil i
presume.. What about the idea of waxing after the tung oil?

Thanks again..

I have used (real) tung oil on cherry and red oak with excellent results and
I've discovered that it is very easy to do some pretty major refinishing
after the initial oil coats have been applied and have dried. After the
initial coats had dried, I cut a kerf and added a miter key. I sanded the
new miter key and the area of the finished wood around the key. After
applying the same number of oil coats to the key and surrounding area, it
all looks perfect, just like it had all been finished at once.

I like this finish of nothing but tung oil, rubbed with a little 0000 steel
wool after the last coat dries. Very easy to repair.

"mike" wrote in message
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OK - first project finished. In Red oak. Applied two coats tung oil and it
looks good. Been advised to wax it now with something like minwax
finishing
wax? Is this a good idea? can i reapply tung oil later as needed if I've
waxed it? thanks... Mike.