At this point of my slide down the slippery slope of turning,
I've paid for but not yet picked up a SuperNova2 chuch and
the 1" 8TPI insert for my JET midi.

[Woodcraft marketing folks are clever. I could buy it
by the Thursday before their Labor Day Weekend
No Sales Tax (8.25% savings around here) Sale
on sale
- $159.99 for the chuck at the sales price,
- $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price
+8.25% sales tax
or wait and get it during the No Sales Tax Sale and
buy it for the normal price but pay no sales tax
- $199.99 for the chuck at the normal price
- $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price

WHY DON'T THEY JUST SAY $160 INSTEAD OF
$159.99?

Calculator says skip the No Sales Tax Sale,
buy the chuck on sale at $160 and save
$24.255

So now I've got another $24.255 to spend!
Figure another set of jaws would come in
handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy
for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the
drawer pulls I intend to make?

Seems as if this slope is getting steeper.
$350 midi lathe
$ 69 StebCenter
$200 chuck
$200 +/- for some chisels and gouges
and there's still a couple of tool rests to
acquire and maybe a collets chuck. Then
there's the Escoulen (sp?) eccentric
chuck for around $275 . . .

Ah, but the cost of wood should go way down
relative to furniture making needs. And
I'm sure I can get buy on just one meal a
day. A wood burning stove - that's what
I need! What I save in gas and electric
costs will surely free up some funds
for MORE TOOLS! BIGGER LATHE(S),
MORE POWER!!!!!

PENS! I can make a bunch of pens and
sell them at craft fares. Yeah, that'll
provide plenty of money for MORE
STUFF!

Raaapidly accelerating down the slippery
slope

charlie b

Can you see the top of your table saw? How thick is the layer of dust
on the jointer? Have you considered spending a $1000.00 to attend a
turning conference? It may not be too late to save your self!

Walt A

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 10:18:17 -0700, charlie b
wrote:

At this point of my slide down the slippery slope of turning,
I've paid for but not yet picked up a SuperNova2 chuch and
the 1" 8TPI insert for my JET midi.

[Woodcraft marketing folks are clever. I could buy it
by the Thursday before their Labor Day Weekend
No Sales Tax (8.25% savings around here) Sale
on sale
- $159.99 for the chuck at the sales price,
- $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price
+8.25% sales tax
or wait and get it during the No Sales Tax Sale and
buy it for the normal price but pay no sales tax
- $199.99 for the chuck at the normal price
- $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price

WHY DON'T THEY JUST SAY $160 INSTEAD OF
$159.99?

Calculator says skip the No Sales Tax Sale,
buy the chuck on sale at $160 and save
$24.255

So now I've got another $24.255 to spend!
Figure another set of jaws would come in
handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy
for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the
drawer pulls I intend to make?

Seems as if this slope is getting steeper.
$350 midi lathe
$ 69 StebCenter
$200 chuck
$200 +/- for some chisels and gouges
and there's still a couple of tool rests to
acquire and maybe a collets chuck. Then
there's the Escoulen (sp?) eccentric
chuck for around $275 . . .

Ah, but the cost of wood should go way down
relative to furniture making needs. And
I'm sure I can get buy on just one meal a
day. A wood burning stove - that's what
I need! What I save in gas and electric
costs will surely free up some funds
for MORE TOOLS! BIGGER LATHE(S),
MORE POWER!!!!!

PENS! I can make a bunch of pens and
sell them at craft fares. Yeah, that'll
provide plenty of money for MORE
STUFF!

Raaapidly accelerating down the slippery
slope

charlie b

charlie b wrote:

At this point of my slide down the slippery slope of turning,
I've paid for but not yet picked up a SuperNova2 chuch and
the 1" 8TPI insert for my JET midi.

[Woodcraft marketing folks are clever. I could buy it
by the Thursday before their Labor Day Weekend
No Sales Tax (8.25% savings around here) Sale
on sale
- $159.99 for the chuck at the sales price,
- $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price
+8.25% sales tax
or wait and get it during the No Sales Tax Sale and
buy it for the normal price but pay no sales tax
- $199.99 for the chuck at the normal price
- $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price

WHY DON'T THEY JUST SAY $160 INSTEAD OF
$159.99?

Calculator says skip the No Sales Tax Sale,
buy the chuck on sale at $160 and save
$24.255

So now I've got another $24.255 to spend!
Figure another set of jaws would come in
handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy
for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the
drawer pulls I intend to make?

Seems as if this slope is getting steeper.
$350 midi lathe
$ 69 StebCenter
$200 chuck
$200 +/- for some chisels and gouges
and there's still a couple of tool rests to
acquire and maybe a collets chuck. Then
there's the Escoulen (sp?) eccentric
chuck for around $275 . . .

Ah, but the cost of wood should go way down
relative to furniture making needs. And
I'm sure I can get buy on just one meal a
day. A wood burning stove - that's what
I need! What I save in gas and electric
costs will surely free up some funds
for MORE TOOLS! BIGGER LATHE(S),
MORE POWER!!!!!

PENS! I can make a bunch of pens and
sell them at craft fares. Yeah, that'll
provide plenty of money for MORE
STUFF!

Raaapidly accelerating down the slippery
slope

charlie b

Next time check with KMS tools. They list the Supernova 2 including
insert, 2" jaws and woodworm screw for $169.96 US. They are a super
company to deal with.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

Common sense is what tells you the
earth is flat.





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Walt & Jenne Ahlgrim wrote:

Can you see the top of your table saw?

Yes - but that's because what was on it was
moved to the miter saw infeed and outfeed
tables, thence to the bench from which is
was moved to the added on big drill press
table, saving the workbench top behind the
combination machine for the parts for
some utility shelves which must be done
BEFORE the first rain. Two shelf units,
each shelf to hold two filing boxes, 6 shelves
per unit - storage for 24 file boxes of
"stuff", some of which MAY be wood that
is saved for turning and miscellaneous
small project.

How thick is the layer of dust
on the jointer?

I've got an 1100 lb. 3 - 3 hp TEFC motored, sliding
table, combination machine (Robland X31) so the
saw/shaper table and the jointer table are side by
side and coplana Because of the sliding table, a large
cross cut auxilliary table is not necessary. When
the 48" cross cut fence isn't being used it's taken
of the machine and stored in a corner.

Have you considered spending a $1000.00 to attend a
turning conference?

Let's see, that's about one quarter of a trip to
the emergency room - sounds like a real deal.
But I'd rather spend that sized chunk of change
on some nice wood (I've already got just about
every tailed tool they make and half the hand
tools Roy Underhill has.

It may not be too late to save your self!

This is sort of like taking up morphine to
get off of methamphetamines.

CAUTION: A skill saw/circular saw is a gatewy
tool to a woodworking addiction which can
empty your bank account - but feeds your soul.

charlie b

Walt A

"charlie b" wrote in message
...
At this point of my slide down the slippery slope of turning,
I've paid for but not yet picked up a SuperNova2 chuch and
the 1" 8TPI insert for my JET midi.
So now I've got another $24.255 to spend!
Figure another set of jaws would come in
handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy
for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the
drawer pulls I intend to make?

"Pin Jaws" is what you want. They're the most versatile set available.

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:53:45 -0700, charlie b wrote:

I've got an 1100 lb. 3 - 3 hp TEFC motored, sliding
table, combination machine (Robland X31) so the
saw/shaper table and the jointer table are side by
side and coplana Because of the sliding table, a large
cross cut auxilliary table is not necessary. When
the 48" cross cut fence isn't being used it's taken
of the machine and stored in a corner.

So this isn't your first excursion into the madness of wood?


Have you considered spending a $1000.00 to attend a
turning conference?

Let's see, that's about one quarter of a trip to
the emergency room - sounds like a real deal.
But I'd rather spend that sized chunk of change
on some nice wood (I've already got just about
every tailed tool they make and half the hand
tools Roy Underhill has.

There ya go, Roy. There's the guy who got your tools!

In a begining turning class I took the question of how much does it cost to
get started? His answer was a $1000.00 when asked. On the second to last
meeting he brought out a chuck and was explaining about how to use it and
the advantages it has. Of course the question came up, how much does it
cost? He turned to the class and said, did I tell you about the second
thousand dollars?? Why do I think there is a third thousand dollars out
there just around the corner.

Bruce
"charlie b" wrote in message
...
At this point of my slide down the slippery slope of turning,
I've paid for but not yet picked up a SuperNova2 chuch and
the 1" 8TPI insert for my JET midi.

[Woodcraft marketing folks are clever. I could buy it
by the Thursday before their Labor Day Weekend
No Sales Tax (8.25% savings around here) Sale
on sale
- $159.99 for the chuck at the sales price,
- $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price
+8.25% sales tax
or wait and get it during the No Sales Tax Sale and
buy it for the normal price but pay no sales tax
- $199.99 for the chuck at the normal price
- $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price

WHY DON'T THEY JUST SAY $160 INSTEAD OF
$159.99?

Calculator says skip the No Sales Tax Sale,
buy the chuck on sale at $160 and save
$24.255

So now I've got another $24.255 to spend!
Figure another set of jaws would come in
handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy
for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the
drawer pulls I intend to make?

Seems as if this slope is getting steeper.
$350 midi lathe
$ 69 StebCenter
$200 chuck
$200 +/- for some chisels and gouges
and there's still a couple of tool rests to
acquire and maybe a collets chuck. Then
there's the Escoulen (sp?) eccentric
chuck for around $275 . . .

Ah, but the cost of wood should go way down
relative to furniture making needs. And
I'm sure I can get buy on just one meal a
day. A wood burning stove - that's what
I need! What I save in gas and electric
costs will surely free up some funds
for MORE TOOLS! BIGGER LATHE(S),
MORE POWER!!!!!

PENS! I can make a bunch of pens and
sell them at craft fares. Yeah, that'll
provide plenty of money for MORE
STUFF!

Raaapidly accelerating down the slippery
slope

charlie b

"Bruce Ferguson" wrote in message
...
In a begining turning class I took the question of how much does it cost
to get started? His answer was a $1000.00 when asked. On the second to
last meeting he brought out a chuck and was explaining about how to use
it and the advantages it has. Of course the question came up, how much
does it cost? He turned to the class and said, did I tell you about the
second thousand dollars?? Why do I think there is a third thousand
dollars out there just around the corner.
=====================
Bruce,
There can be another thousand (or several) if you don't control yourself.
There's always the temptation of that $3500 lathe, the $150 ea. turning
tools, the latest and greatest whiz bang chuck that will hold any thing at
any position, the new shop to put all this in, etc., etc.. The list is
endless, but much of it is ego, and not necessity (another flame war
ignited). I've been back at this for about 10 years, and I have less than
$1000 total investment, if you don't count the time spent making tools,
jigs, fixtures, etc.. If you take a look at what you want to do, then look
for ways other than the "conventional wisdom" says to do it, you can find
ways to do it without breaking the bank. YMMY

Ken Moon
Webberville, TX.

for what it's worth, I bought a nova chuck and a bunch of jaws - found I
rarely chnaged them - in fact I have the large jaws, think I used them once,
the 50 mm ones are useful, and the small ones are good on rare occasion - I
don't think I've used anything except the 50 mm jaws in years.

bill
www.wbnoble.com

snip--------


So now I've got another $24.255 to spend!
Figure another set of jaws would come in
handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy
for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the
drawer pulls I intend to make?

Seems as if this slope is getting steeper.
$350 midi lathe
$ 69 StebCenter
$200 chuck
$200 +/- for some chisels and gouges
and there's still a couple of tool rests to
acquire and maybe a collets chuck. Then
there's the Escoulen (sp?) eccentric
chuck for around $275 . . .

Can I see the top of my tablesaw? I can't FIND my tablesaw! Ask me where
my lathe is.

Barry


"Walt & Jenne Ahlgrim" wrote in message
...
Can you see the top of your table saw? How thick is the layer of dust
on the jointer? Have you considered spending a $1000.00 to attend a
turning conference? It may not be too late to save your self!

Walt A

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 10:18:17 -0700, charlie b
wrote:

At this point of my slide down the slippery slope of turning,
I've paid for but not yet picked up a SuperNova2 chuch and
the 1" 8TPI insert for my JET midi.

[Woodcraft marketing folks are clever. I could buy it
by the Thursday before their Labor Day Weekend
No Sales Tax (8.25% savings around here) Sale
on sale
- $159.99 for the chuck at the sales price,
- $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price
+8.25% sales tax
or wait and get it during the No Sales Tax Sale and
buy it for the normal price but pay no sales tax
- $199.99 for the chuck at the normal price
- $ 24.99 for the insert at normal price

WHY DON'T THEY JUST SAY $160 INSTEAD OF
$159.99?

Calculator says skip the No Sales Tax Sale,
buy the chuck on sale at $160 and save
$24.255

So now I've got another $24.255 to spend!
Figure another set of jaws would come in
handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy
for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the
drawer pulls I intend to make?

Seems as if this slope is getting steeper.
$350 midi lathe
$ 69 StebCenter
$200 chuck
$200 +/- for some chisels and gouges
and there's still a couple of tool rests to
acquire and maybe a collets chuck. Then
there's the Escoulen (sp?) eccentric
chuck for around $275 . . .

Ah, but the cost of wood should go way down
relative to furniture making needs. And
I'm sure I can get buy on just one meal a
day. A wood burning stove - that's what
I need! What I save in gas and electric
costs will surely free up some funds
for MORE TOOLS! BIGGER LATHE(S),
MORE POWER!!!!!

PENS! I can make a bunch of pens and
sell them at craft fares. Yeah, that'll
provide plenty of money for MORE
STUFF!

Raaapidly accelerating down the slippery
slope

charlie b

Far too often, we seek solutions in buying more
tools/chucks/jaws/gadgets/etc. instead of learning how to use what we
already have.

As a really "green" novice turner, I was having problems with hollowing
boxes and was searching for that perfect tool. Clay Johnson of Choice Woods
in Louisville, KY told me, "You don't need another tool. You need to learn
to use the ones you already have." Good advice.

Barry


"william_b_noble" wrote in message
news:1125899076.68b0ca9a59c2bd00e3cbb3006cf490ee@t eranews...
for what it's worth, I bought a nova chuck and a bunch of jaws - found I
rarely chnaged them - in fact I have the large jaws, think I used them
once,
the 50 mm ones are useful, and the small ones are good on rare occasion -
I
don't think I've used anything except the 50 mm jaws in years.

bill
www.wbnoble.com

snip--------


So now I've got another $24.255 to spend!
Figure another set of jaws would come in
handy. Will the "spigot" jaws come in handy
for holding the "tenon"/dowel end of the
drawer pulls I intend to make?

Seems as if this slope is getting steeper.
$350 midi lathe
$ 69 StebCenter
$200 chuck
$200 +/- for some chisels and gouges
and there's still a couple of tool rests to
acquire and maybe a collets chuck. Then
there's the Escoulen (sp?) eccentric
chuck for around $275 . . .