Hi Everyone - Errr - What Is the function Of Trading Standards??. They
remind me of that advert - with the words changed of course from, "New
Customer Only" To "Sorry Data Protection Act". I thought that they
would be in a position to disclosed all The John Wayne's out there but
no what do you get, yes you guessed it SDPA's.

My wish to the BBC's Watchdog is please "Stop Broadcasting Immediately"
as it shows how easy it is to encourage these high earners to get away
with it and in many cases "How To Do It".

There seems to be very little prosecutions. And those found guilty just
pay a small fine, for which you have to further pay the courts to
collect it - and then its not guaranteed. And then simple change their
company name and start trading again

All it would take for the UK to sell better products to the consumer is
to take B & Q, Wicks, Homebase, NU Tools (especially), Screwfix etc to
court and fine them =A3100,000 for selling lets say a drill which simply
broke within 14 days plus give the customer =A31000 conpensation for all
the time, trouble and risk in some cases. And for the courts to ask
what is "Trading Standards For". We would all be enjoying some very
special nice to use tools in the future. A job in the Inspection
Department would mean something and the manager of this department
would be on the board of directors, showing their teeth.

All those in favour just keep writing to this thread. Someone may just
take some notice. So watchout B & Q or should that be Bodge and Queue.

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wrote:
All it would take for the UK to sell better products to the
consumer is to take B & Q, Wicks, Homebase, NU Tools
(especially), Screwfix etc to court and fine them £100,000 for
selling lets say a drill which simply broke within 14 days plus
give the customer £1000 conpensation for all the time, trouble
and risk in some cases.

Alternatively one might educate the public so that they realise
that a £19.99 tool cannot be expected to be the equal of a £49.99
one, let along a £179.99 one. The impression I get from posts in
this group is that the likes of B&Q don't quibble when failed tools
are returned.

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wrote:

All it would take for the UK to sell better products to the consumer is
to take B & Q, Wicks, Homebase, NU Tools (especially), Screwfix etc to

What, for giving people what they want and are preapared to pay for?

There are people in this newsgroup who actually believe buying three Nu
Tool / PPPro / Ryobi products is a better deal than one more expensive
Bosch or Makita.

what is "Trading Standards For". We would all be enjoying some very
special nice to use tools in the future. A job in the Inspection

You can have them now....

All those in favour just keep writing to this thread. Someone may just
take some notice. So watchout B & Q or should that be Bodge and Queue.

You do speak nonsense....

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if everything was made so it never became faulty, you would be spending most
of your life paying for goods on credit, as they would cost so bloody much,

plus we would still be living in the dark ages

wrote:
Hi Everyone - Errr - What Is the function Of Trading Standards??.
They
remind me of that advert - with the words changed of course from,
"New
Customer Only" To "Sorry Data Protection Act". I thought that they
would be in a position to disclosed all The John Wayne's out there
but
no what do you get, yes you guessed it SDPA's.

My wish to the BBC's Watchdog is please "Stop Broadcasting
Immediately"
as it shows how easy it is to encourage these high earners to get
away
with it and in many cases "How To Do It".

There seems to be very little prosecutions. And those found guilty
just
pay a small fine, for which you have to further pay the courts to
collect it - and then its not guaranteed. And then simple change
their
company name and start trading again

All it would take for the UK to sell better products to the consumer
is
to take B & Q, Wicks, Homebase, NU Tools (especially), Screwfix etc
to
court and fine them =A3100,000 for selling lets say a drill which
simply
broke within 14 days plus give the customer =A31000 conpensation for
all
the time, trouble and risk in some cases. And for the courts to ask
what is "Trading Standards For". We would all be enjoying some very
special nice to use tools in the future. A job in the Inspection
Department would mean something and the manager of this department
would be on the board of directors, showing their teeth.

All those in favour just keep writing to this thread. Someone may
just
take some notice. So watchout B & Q or should that be Bodge and
Queue.

I was real short of money one time, cashflows a bummer, but needed to
get a job done. I bought a =A327 mitre saw, I knew what I was getting,
it was wha I wanted and got the job done.

If I'd only been able to buy a decent one for 200-300 I'd have had much
bigger problems. Heck if I'd had to buy industrial grade tools for all
the jobs I've ever done I'd probably be bankfupt

I reckon youre about 18. You get what you pay for, or less. You cant
get more than you pay for. Youre responsible for your deicisions in
this life, and lifes full of risks. whining to others to protect you
against every conceivable problm in life is a poor strategy for living.


NT

John Rumm wrote:
wrote:

All it would take for the UK to sell better products to the consumer is
to take B & Q, Wicks, Homebase, NU Tools (especially), Screwfix etc to

What, for giving people what they want and are preapared to pay for?

There are people in this newsgroup who actually believe buying three Nu
Tool / PPPro / Ryobi products is a better deal than one more expensive
Bosch or Makita.

.... and for some uses it *is* a better deal.

--
Chris Green

wrote:

All it would take for the UK to sell better products to the consumer is
to take B & Q, Wicks, Homebase, NU Tools (especially), Screwfix etc to

What, for giving people what they want and are preapared to pay for?

There are people in this newsgroup who actually believe buying three Nu
Tool / PPPro / Ryobi products is a better deal than one more expensive
Bosch or Makita.


... and for some uses it *is* a better deal.

Indeed. Hence eradicating them from sale is not going to do anyone any
favours!


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Cheers,

John.

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"Derek *" wrote
| Tony Bryer wrote:
| Alternatively one might educate the public so that they
| realise that a £19.99 tool cannot be expected to be the
| equal of a £49.99 one, let along a £179.99 one.
| Pity the EU has just done exactly the opposite wrt airfares/
| airlines.

But power tools are (10% discount on Wrinkly Wednesdays and similar offers
aside) sold for a clear price for the product. The airlines do sell exactly
the same flight at prices from 99p to £179 (probably an even wider
disparity) depending on the whims of 'demand management'. They have educated
the public to expect the same level of service regardless of ticket price.

Owain

| Tony Bryer wrote:
| Alternatively one might educate the public so that they
| realise that a £19.99 tool cannot be expected to be the
| equal of a £49.99 one, let along a £179.99 one.
| Pity the EU has just done exactly the opposite wrt airfares/
| airlines.

That's not quite the same. With power tools I can buy a £20 one or a £200
one. As a business user I want airlines to take their obligations to get me
from A to B on time seriously but with the low cost cowboys pushing full
fair airlines off of many routes, especially those not involving Heathrow,
one is left with little choice but to use their overcrowded flying cattle
pens.

The EU rule is probably because they've f***ed up too many EU meetings with
people arriving late/not at all.

"Mike" wrote in message
...

| Tony Bryer wrote:
| Alternatively one might educate the public so that they
| realise that a £19.99 tool cannot be expected to be the
| equal of a £49.99 one, let along a £179.99 one.
| Pity the EU has just done exactly the opposite wrt airfares/
| airlines.

That's not quite the same. With power tools I can buy a £20 one or a £200
one. As a business user I want airlines to take their obligations to get
me
from A to B on time seriously but with the low cost cowboys pushing full
fair airlines off of many routes, especially those not involving Heathrow,
one is left with little choice but to use their overcrowded flying cattle
pens.

I know what you mean. They are too cheap. I was one plane and it full of
pigs.


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In article .com,
wrote:
All it would take for the UK to sell better products to the consumer is
to take B & Q, Wicks, Homebase, NU Tools (especially), Screwfix etc to
court and fine them £100,000 for selling lets say a drill which simply
broke within 14 days plus give the customer £1000 conpensation for all
the time, trouble and risk in some cases.

This would simply result in an increase in the price of the tools.
Clearly, all don't fail within 14 days, so it's a question of poor quality
control. And proper quality control is an expensive business.
Now if B&Q etc were reticent about replacing faulty goods, fines would
definitely be the way to go. But by all accounts they're very good.
FWIW, I've got quite a few B&Q type quality power tools - mostly just
bought to see if I'd make much use of them - and perhaps replaced by
something better if I do. And the first of those, a 40 quid pillar drill
is still going strong despite having had what I'd describe as fairly heavy
DIY use. If it failed tomorrow it'd not owe me anything. Same with a PPPro
18 volt drill.

Their incredibly low prices bring such things within the grasp of the
amateur. And as such offer good value for money. But that's not to say a
serious DIYer wouldn't be advised to go for something better.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
Doctor Evil wrote:
I know what you mean. They are too cheap. I was one plane and it full of
pigs.

Yup. Totally.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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"Huge" wrote in message
...
"Mike" writes:

| Tony Bryer wrote:
| Alternatively one might educate the public so that they
| realise that a £19.99 tool cannot be expected to be the
| equal of a £49.99 one, let along a £179.99 one.
| Pity the EU has just done exactly the opposite wrt airfares/
| airlines.

That's not quite the same. With power tools I can buy a £20 one or a
£200
one. As a business user I want airlines to take their obligations to get
me
from A to B on time seriously but with the low cost cowboys pushing full
fair airlines off of many routes, especially those not involving
Heathrow,
one is left with little choice but to use their overcrowded flying cattle
pens.

The EU rule is probably because they've f***ed up too many EU meetings
with
people arriving late/not at all.

IME, EU bigwigs take air taxis.

Possibly. But the meetings where things actually get done involve normal
transport. And whereas one used to be able to guarantee getting to a
meeting at say 9:30 in Madrid or whatever, nowadays one needs to fly the
night before and stay in a hotel to avoid being late.