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We're starting to refit the bathroom and hopefully the assembled experts
can give some advice on a few questions:

1. I want to replace the existing bath with a shower bath. The old bath
moves a surprising amount, how can I install the new one so that it
feels really solid?

2. Naive question: is the recommendation to tile the walls first and
then seal the bath to the tiles, or to fit the bath and then tile down
to it?

3. There was mention in a thread recently that regular plasterboard
shouldn't be used in a shower, is it really worth replacing some
existing plasterboard?

4. I'm surprised at the price of some heated towel rails and baths,
where's a good place to buy? It's hard to tell whether such things are
better/cheaper in France, has anyone any experience?

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"Dave" wrote in message
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We're starting to refit the bathroom and hopefully the assembled experts
can give some advice on a few questions:

1. I want to replace the existing bath with a shower bath. The old bath
moves a surprising amount, how can I install the new one so that it feels
really solid?


Most come with 2 brackets to screw the bath to the wal, and scew the feet to
the floor

2. Naive question: is the recommendation to tile the walls first and then
seal the bath to the tiles, or to fit the bath and then tile down to it?


Fit bath then tile up to it.

3. There was mention in a thread recently that regular plasterboard
shouldn't be used in a shower, is it really worth replacing some existing
plasterboard?


Use waterproof adeasive and grout and you shouldn't have a proplem.


4. I'm surprised at the price of some heated towel rails and baths,
where's a good place to buy? It's hard to tell whether such things are
better/cheaper in France, has anyone any experience?

Never compared

Dave S
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I got a lot of my stuff of the internet. I paid around 1/2 typical shop
price for my towel radiator by getting it off Ebay. Cant remember exact
prices however. I got my shower and base of Ebay as well. Seller
Bobsww. Quality is quite reasonable. Fast delivery but slow
communication and still hasnt refunded me for a non fitting part. Only
=A310 so not to bothered. Its risk vs reward I suppose but take a look
on ebay as there are some bargins to be had.

CM.

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Dave wrote:

We're starting to refit the bathroom and hopefully the assembled experts
can give some advice on a few questions:

1. I want to replace the existing bath with a shower bath. The old bath
moves a surprising amount, how can I install the new one so that it
feels really solid?


carefully. I use bits of wood to make a frame, and the clips that come
with the bath to hold it to it. The bath frame legs mus be levelled up
properly and on secure wood. If there isn'tt any, put some in.

I usually then run some epoxy or cyanoacrylate (edepnding on hether
there is a gap) between bath and walls to lock the ******* into place
firmly.

Any flexure in the bath is taken care of by shims and bloccks and
battens glued to the bath with car body filler, and I run a batten along
the exterior edge to take the panelling, glued with gobs of car body filler.

Ive ven thouight about, but not used, expanding foamn underneath to lock
the whole assembly in place.



2. Naive question: is the recommendation to tile the walls first and
then seal the bath to the tiles, or to fit the bath and then tile down
to it?


The latter. Once the bath is in place mechanically, do the4 silicone
thing between bath and wall, but only enough to seal it. My bath edges
are so bloody rigid that I don't need a flexible sealer: I just tile
down to withing a grout width of the bath edge (you did level the bath
with a level, didn't you) and then fill with grout.


3. There was mention in a thread recently that regular plasterboard
shouldn't be used in a shower, is it really worth replacing some
existing plasterboard?

No. Its fine. As long as you tile it and don't let water get behind it.
That means decent grout and maybe waterproofing additve, though I don't
normally bother.

4. I'm surprised at the price of some heated towel rails and baths,
where's a good place to buy? It's hard to tell whether such things are
better/cheaper in France, has anyone any experience?


Decent baths cots seriosu money. You ca get a ceapo flexi steel or
plastic bath for a 100 or two, but a quality steel, cast iron or acrylic
will cost 400 or more.

You can make a cheapo plastic much more solid as described above. Ive
done it both ways - cheap bath and structure, and expepnsive bath (and
still structure) I like the expebsive bath, but don't buy from ditz
shops, buy online from big wholesalers. What is 600 quid in a ditz shop
may be only 300 in builders merchants with sensible discount.

And follow a bathroom fitters advice 'cheap china and taps and expensive
tiles is a better use of your money'


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3. There was mention in a thread recently that regular plasterboard
shouldn't be used in a shower, is it really worth replacing some
existing plasterboard?


Personally, I'd just stick with the plasterboard. However, it is ESSENTIAL
to do a good tiling job if using a non-waterproof background. Use a top
quality adhesive suitable for swimming pools (not some value readymix
adhesive + grout ****e). Ensure (lift occasional tiles to check) that you
are fully filling behind the tile with no air gaps. Use a quality grout with
antifungal additives and narrowish joins. Really fill the gaps with the
grout. Seal the grout with Lithofin KF StainStop.

Christian.




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4. I'm surprised at the price of some heated towel rails and baths,
where's a good place to buy? It's hard to tell whether such things are
better/cheaper in France, has anyone any experience?


Dunno about France, but I got my bath from City Plumbing (pretty reasonable
for a corner bath), and my towel rail from screwfix (about 85 quid) - really
pleased with both.

Andy


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Andy Sithers wrote in message
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4. I'm surprised at the price of some heated towel rails and baths,
where's a good place to buy? It's hard to tell whether such things
are better/cheaper in France, has anyone any experience?


Dunno about France, but I got my bath from City Plumbing (pretty
reasonable for a corner bath), and my towel rail from screwfix
(about 85 quid) - really pleased with both.


And I dunno about England, but Brico-marche have 600w 1200mm electric
towel heater/radiators for 119 euros atm, sometimes they are down to
65-75 euros. I got our plumbed in one for 35 euro but haven't seen those
prices since, usually 75 euros ish. Baths start at 50 euros ish, corner
baths at 80 euros ish.

The only place which I know you can find prices online is
www.castorama.fr
which would give you some idea, but the offers come and go all the time.

Holly

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Dave wrote:
We're starting to refit the bathroom and hopefully the assembled experts
can give some advice on a few questions:

1. I want to replace the existing bath with a shower bath. The old bath
moves a surprising amount, how can I install the new one so that it
feels really solid?

2. Naive question: is the recommendation to tile the walls first and
then seal the bath to the tiles, or to fit the bath and then tile down
to it?


The general answer, as others have given is to tile down, but on the bath
I've recently installed I tiled first.

In this case our tiles were about 12mm thick, which with the aditional
adhesive thickness would have given an appearance which I wouldn't have
found acceptable if tiling down. Silicon was applied right around the edges
before the bath was pushed agianst the tiles, and the bath was screwed very
securely to the wall.



cheers

David
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