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Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.

It connects to the web if connected to the ethernet cable.
I have been putting in the various codes / passwords for the router but
then get this message.....

"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits
depending on your network configuration. This can be entered as a 5 or
13 ascii characters or 10 or 26 hexadecimal characters".

The above does not relate to anything on the router label, I have tried
all the numbers/passwords to no avail.

Anyone know what or where I get this?
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Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.

It connects to the web if connected to the ethernet cable.
I have been putting in the various codes / passwords for the router but
then get this message.....

"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits
depending on your network configuration. This can be entered as a 5 or
13 ascii characters or 10 or 26 hexadecimal characters".

The above does not relate to anything on the router label, I have tried
all the numbers/passwords to no avail.

Anyone know what or where I get this?


Do you even understand how to log in to your router and check what the
wifi password is set to? Or set a new one?


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Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.
"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits


sounds like the router is configured to use the ancient (horribly
broken) WEP encryption, can you reconfigure the router to use WPA or
WPA2 encryption?
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On 07/07/2019 09:28, ss wrote:
Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.

It connects to the web if connected to the ethernet cable.
I have been putting in the various codes / passwords for the router
but then get this message.....

"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits
depending on your network configuration. This can be entered as a 5 or
13 ascii characters or 10 or 26 hexadecimal characters".

The above does not relate to anything on the router label, I have
tried all the numbers/passwords to no avail.

Anyone know what or where I get this?


Do you even understand how to log in to your router and check what the
wifi password is set to? Or set a new one?


Because it sure looks like your router is set up for WEP when it ought
to be WPA2/PSK.



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On 07/07/2019 09:46, Andy Burns wrote:
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Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.
"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits


sounds like the router is configured to use the ancient (horribly
broken) WEP encryption, can you reconfigure the router to use WPA or
WPA2 encryption?


Without guidance I would answer no to reconfiguring.

Worth mentioning my PC and various laptops,ipads etc all work ok from
the same wi-fi signal, it is just this one netbook that fails.


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Without guidance I would answer no to reconfiguring.


do you know the ip address of the router? when connected via wired
ethernet, what is default gateway and//or dns server address, in a home
that's 99% going to be the router ... point ypur web browser at that ip
address e.g. http://192.168.1.254

does it ask you to login? do you know the admin username/password, not
the wifi password?

Worth mentioning my PC and various laptops,ipads etc all work ok from
the same wi-fi signal, it is just this one netbook that fails.


worth mentioning that if your router is on WEP and you change it to WPA2
(a good thing) you'll have to re-enter the wifi password into all those
other devices to get them to re-connect.
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Jethro_uk wrote:

I vaguely recall the previous thread.
Have you got any devices using WiFi with this router working *as I type* ?


Remembering the previous thread, is the "dodgy" laptop the only device
running WinXP?

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On 07/07/2019 10:40, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2019 09:28:48 +0100, ss wrote:

Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.


I vaguely recall the previous thread.

Have you got any devices using WiFi with this router working *as I type* ?



What is the make and model of the router?


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On 07/07/2019 10:25, ss wrote:
On 07/07/2019 09:46, Andy Burns wrote:
ss wrote:

Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.
"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits


sounds like the router is configured to use the ancient (horribly
broken) WEP encryption, can you reconfigure the router to use WPA or
WPA2 encryption?


Without guidance I would answer no to reconfiguring.

Worth mentioning my PC and various laptops,ipads etc all work ok from
the same wi-fi signal, it is just this one netbook that fails.


Give up. You are too stupid to own a netbook

Maybe your netbook is configured to try and use WEP? And the router
supports both. Maybe your netbook can ONLY supprt WEP, in which case you
need to slap a wifi dongle in it


But since we dont know
- what make the netbook is
- what operating system it is running
- what router it is trying to connect to

it is all mere speculation.



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On 07/07/2019 10:40, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2019 09:28:48 +0100, ss wrote:

Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.


I vaguely recall the previous thread.

Have you got any devices using WiFi with this router working *as I type* ?

Yes several and all working, the netbook also worked ok until beginning
of June turned on after a couple of months and not working.


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On 07/07/2019 10:43, Andy Burns wrote:
Jethro_uk wrote:

I vaguely recall the previous thread.
Have you got any devices using WiFi with this router working *as I
type* ?


Remembering the previous thread, is the "dodgy" laptop the only device
running WinXP?

No, most are but I also have a laptop rarely used that has xp and works ok.
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On Sun, 07 Jul 2019 09:28:48 +0100, ss wrote:

Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.


I vaguely recall the previous thread.

Have you got any devices using WiFi with this router working *as I
type* ?



What is the make and model of the router?


Router:


https://imgur.com/wOf8ffd

Netbook is an Asus.
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On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 09:28:48 +0100, ss wrote:

Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.

It connects to the web if connected to the ethernet cable.


So that tells us it is able to handle TCPIP on the wired port. I can't
remember if you set static entries for the Ethernet but if you didn't
that would suggest DCHP was also working ok.

I have been putting in the various codes / passwords for the router but
then get this message.....


That worries me. There is (normally) only *one* right code and it
shouldn't be a lottery. It is also case sensitive so you must follow
that as well.

"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits
depending on your network configuration. This can be entered as a 5 or
13 ascii characters or 10 or 26 hexadecimal characters".


As others have said it suggests it thinks the router is using WEP and
whilst that shouldn't be a problem re connection, it isn't an ideal
solution in general.

The above does not relate to anything on the router label, I have tried
all the numbers/passwords to no avail.


See above.

Anyone know what or where I get this?


What I would still like to hear is that you have booted that netbook
from a Linux USB live image and that the wireless connects (or
doesn't). [1]

A successful connection would prove two things. 1) You are using the
right 'code' and 2) the hardware is compatible.

That's not to say that the Windows drivers were correct ... and I have
had it where an automagically installed (WiFi in this case) driver
doesn't work whereas the one from the WiFi card manufacturer does.

As an aside ... I have also replaced WiFi cards with devices that were
'Linux Compatible' (OOTB) as it was often easier than trying to get
them working in Linux. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

p.s. How well did you get on connecting the Netbook to someone else's
(friend / family / iNetCafe) router?

[1] It's only a few clicks to make a bootable Linux USB stick ...

1) Download this file:
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/w...mate-32bit.iso

2) Download and install this USB imaging software (others are
available):
https://unetbootin.github.io/

Open the link here and follow the steps:
https://unetbootin.github.io/#install

Just make sure you have selected the right USB device before hitting
Go! ;-)

Reboot the netbook with the USB stick plugged in and see if you get
the option to boot from it with the popup boot options (F10 etc)?

If it boots, use the 'Try' (not install) option and once at the
desktop, see if the networking icon shows any WiFi networks and if it
does and it shows yours, can you connect to it.

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On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 11:37:51 +0100, ss wrote:

snip

Router:


https://imgur.com/wOf8ffd


A dual band Wireless cable router. ;-)

I also have a VM Hub and the first thing I did with it is put it into
'Modem Mode' and use my own router.

I think there are some things you can do re making it less fussy (as a
WiFi router) but I can't remember what.

Cheers, T i m

p.s. If the netbook 'worked on that router before but doesn't now', it
could be a firmware update to the router that has affected it:

https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/wire...a-hub-3-review

"To be fair, Virgin's been working on that issue. In March 2019, the
company announced a major firmware update to the Hub 3, including
three new measures aimed at improving performance. These are automatic
channel-switching, which tries to minimise wireless interference by
switching away from congested radio frequencies; band steering, which
shunts devices from the 2.4GHz band onto the faster 5GHz band wherever
possible; and a new "airtime fairness" feature that prevents any
individual device from monopolising the airwaves and slowing
everything else down."

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On 07/07/2019 11:59, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 11:37:51 +0100, ss wrote:

snip

Router:


https://imgur.com/wOf8ffd


A dual band Wireless cable router. ;-)

I also have a VM Hub and the first thing I did with it is put it into
'Modem Mode' and use my own router.

I think there are some things you can do re making it less fussy (as a
WiFi router) but I can't remember what.

Cheers, T i m

p.s. If the netbook 'worked on that router before but doesn't now', it
could be a firmware update to the router that has affected it:

https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/wire...a-hub-3-review

"To be fair, Virgin's been working on that issue. In March 2019, the
company announced a major firmware update to the Hub 3, including
three new measures aimed at improving performance. These are automatic
channel-switching, which tries to minimise wireless interference by
switching away from congested radio frequencies; band steering, which
shunts devices from the 2.4GHz band onto the faster 5GHz band wherever
possible; and a new "airtime fairness" feature that prevents any
individual device from monopolising the airwaves and slowing
everything else down."



A couple of points to add. The label says how to access the settings
page. Type the "http.... " into the address bar of your browser.

Is the Asus netbook able to see the router on 5GHz? It may only have 2.4.








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On 07/07/2019 10:40, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2019 09:28:48 +0100, ss wrote:

Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.

I vaguely recall the previous thread.

Have you got any devices using WiFi with this router working *as I
type* ?



What is the make and model of the router?


Router:


https://imgur.com/wOf8ffd

Netbook is an Asus.

well you have scrubbed out the network password

If the netbook USED to work then either its capable of running WPA or
the router used to run WEP as well.

Probanbly BT reconfigured the router so it doesn't, for security reasons.

'Netbook is an Asus' is about as informative as 'car is a Ford'

Why is this so hard?

Make and MODEL number.



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On 07/07/2019 12:58, GB wrote:
On 07/07/2019 11:59, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 11:37:51 +0100, ss wrote:

snip

Router:


https://imgur.com/wOf8ffd


A dual band Wireless cable router. ;-)

I also have a VM Hub and the first thing I did with it is put it into
'Modem Mode' and use my own router.

I think there are some things you can do re making it less fussy (as a
WiFi router) but I can't remember what.

Cheers, T i m

p.s. If the netbook 'worked on that router before but doesn't now', it
could be a firmware update to the router that has affected it:

https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/wire...a-hub-3-review


"To be fair, Virgin's been working on that issue. In March 2019, the
company announced a major firmware update to the Hub 3, including
three new measures aimed at improving performance. These are automatic
channel-switching, which tries to minimise wireless interference by
switching away from congested radio frequencies; band steering, which
shunts devices from the 2.4GHz band onto the faster 5GHz band wherever
possible; and a new "airtime fairness" feature that prevents any
individual device from monopolising the airwaves and slowing
everything else down."



A couple of points to add.Â* The label says how to access the settings
page. Type the "http.... " into the address bar of your browser.

Is the Asus netbook able to see the router on 5GHz?Â* It may only have 2.4.


Irrelevant.

What is clear is that te netbook is seeing the wifi and trying to
connect using WEP which is insecure and not really recommended and may
not in fact even work.

BT - I assume its a BT POS router - dont even put WEP network passwords
on the router.

Only WPA2


Hmm. After googling some more it appears that POS is probebly right and
BT routers seem to start to die and this is possibly a symptom

My guess is uts a home hub 3?

Id try asking BT for a newer one











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ss wrote:

https://imgur.com/wOf8ffd


My guess is uts a home hub 3?


All the occurrences of "VM" in the model name and SSID are a clue ...
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Jethro_uk wrote:

I vaguely recall the previous thread.
Have you got any devices using WiFi with this router working *as I type*
?


Remembering the previous thread, is the "dodgy" laptop the only device
running WinXP?

No, most are but I also have a laptop rarely used that has xp and works
ok.


XP can be very unhelpful error message wise when the problem
is as basic as the password failing because you have failed to
save it in the router and the router has been power cycled.

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I think the funniest one I saw was when somebody was scratching their head
over something like this, I just entered space and enter and it went ahead
and asked for the normal password. I do not know much about netbooks, but
surely somewhere this behaviour is explained.
Could be it thinks a completely different form of network.
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Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.

It connects to the web if connected to the ethernet cable.
I have been putting in the various codes / passwords for the router but
then get this message.....

"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits
depending on your network configuration. This can be entered as a 5 or 13
ascii characters or 10 or 26 hexadecimal characters".

The above does not relate to anything on the router label, I have tried
all the numbers/passwords to no avail.

Anyone know what or where I get this?


Do you even understand how to log in to your router and check what the
wifi password is set to? Or set a new one?


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How secure wep is really depends on what you use as a password.
As I say early systems would allow you to run them with none at all.
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Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.

It connects to the web if connected to the ethernet cable.
I have been putting in the various codes / passwords for the router but
then get this message.....

"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits
depending on your network configuration. This can be entered as a 5 or
13 ascii characters or 10 or 26 hexadecimal characters".

The above does not relate to anything on the router label, I have tried
all the numbers/passwords to no avail.

Anyone know what or where I get this?


Do you even understand how to log in to your router and check what the
wifi password is set to? Or set a new one?


Because it sure looks like your router is set up for WEP when it ought to
be WPA2/PSK.



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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

ss wrote:

https://imgur.com/wOf8ffd


My guess is uts a home hub 3?


All the occurrences of "VM" in the model name and SSID are a clue ...


And means you don't have to 'guess' anything of course. ;-)

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No, most are but I also have a laptop rarely used that has xp and works
ok.


XP can be very


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On 07/07/2019 10:43, Andy Burns wrote:
Jethro_uk wrote:

I vaguely recall the previous thread.
Have you got any devices using WiFi with this router working *as I
type* ?

Remembering the previous thread, is the "dodgy" laptop the only
device running WinXP?

No, most are but I also have a laptop rarely used that has xp and
works ok.


XP can be very unhelpful error message wise when the problem
is as basic as the password failing because you have failed to
save it in the router and the router has been power cycled.


On one of my XP laptops, it is necessary to run services.msc
from command.com and then page down to turn on networking.
Sorry, can't remember the exact details because it's under
a great pile of junk at the moment.


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On 07/07/2019 11:50, T i m wrote:
p.s. How well did you get on connecting the Netbook to someone else's
(friend / family / iNetCafe) router?


Seriously Tim me even thinking about trying Linux would be suicidal, I
am prety much out of my depth with this already.

As yet I have not tried using a friends wi-fi as I have been away for a
couple of weeks I can hopefully get a neighbour to try for me.


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On 07/07/2019 11:50, T i m wrote:
p.s. How well did you get on connecting the Netbook to someone else's
(friend / family / iNetCafe) router?


Seriously Tim me even thinking about trying Linux would be suicidal, I
am prety much out of my depth with this already.


Hmm, the thing is, I'd say it would probably be easier (assuming
everything worked as it should) for you to 'use Linux as a test tool'
(you wouldn't be 'trying Linux' as such) than it would for you to
fault find this situation in a logical / professional manner. It
really is just a matter of a few mouse clicks so if not now, I'd still
recommend you doing it (or getting someone to do it for you) for the
test tool it will then give you. You might even appreciate it as an OS
for basic Web browsing etc. ;-)

As yet I have not tried using a friends wi-fi as I have been away for a
couple of weeks I can hopefully get a neighbour to try for me.


Ok. Let us know how you get on.

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ss wrote:

Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.
"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits


sounds like the router is configured to use the ancient (horribly
broken) WEP encryption, can you reconfigure the router to use WPA or
WPA2 encryption?


Without guidance I would answer no to reconfiguring.

Worth mentioning my PC and various laptops,ipads etc all work ok from
the same wi-fi signal, it is just this one netbook that fails.


If the machine is running XP, check SP3 is installed. It is a long time
since I dabbled with Windows but Im pretty sure this problem can be caused
by a lack of updates.

(A WEP/WPA(2) issue is also a possibility, as has been suggested.)

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On 07/07/2019 09:43, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/07/2019 09:28, ss wrote:
Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.

It connects to the web if connected to the ethernet cable.
I have been putting in the various codes / passwords for the router
but then get this message.....

"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits
depending on your network configuration. This can be entered as a 5
or 13 ascii characters or 10 or 26 hexadecimal characters".

The above does not relate to anything on the router label, I have
tried all the numbers/passwords to no avail.

Anyone know what or where I get this?


Do you even understand how to log in to your router and check what the
wifi password is set to? Or set a new one?


Because it sure looks like your router is set up for WEP when it ought
toÂ* be WPA2/PSK.



I'd agree this looks like WEP, but it sounds to me like the netbook may
be only able to handle WEP while the router is proably WPA/WPA2-PSK.
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On 08/07/2019 06:40, Brian Reay wrote:
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On 07/07/2019 09:46, Andy Burns wrote:
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Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.
"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits

sounds like the router is configured to use the ancient (horribly
broken) WEP encryption, can you reconfigure the router to use WPA or
WPA2 encryption?


Without guidance I would answer no to reconfiguring.

Worth mentioning my PC and various laptops,ipads etc all work ok from
the same wi-fi signal, it is just this one netbook that fails.


If the machine is running XP, check SP3 is installed. It is a long time
since I dabbled with Windows but Im pretty sure this problem can be caused
by a lack of updates.

(A WEP/WPA(2) issue is also a possibility, as has been suggested.)

WEP/WPA is not so much a possibility as a certainty.

The error messages is a WEP error

For whatever reason the combination is trying to use WEP.


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On 08/07/2019 08:52, Chris Bartram wrote:
On 07/07/2019 09:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/07/2019 09:43, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/07/2019 09:28, ss wrote:
Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.

It connects to the web if connected to the ethernet cable.
I have been putting in the various codes / passwords for the router
but then get this message.....

"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits
depending on your network configuration. This can be entered as a 5
or 13 ascii characters or 10 or 26 hexadecimal characters".

The above does not relate to anything on the router label, I have
tried all the numbers/passwords to no avail.

Anyone know what or where I get this?

Do you even understand how to log in to your router and check what
the wifi password is set to? Or set a new one?


Because it sure looks like your router is set up for WEP when it ought
toÂ* be WPA2/PSK.



I'd agree this looks like WEP, but it sounds to me like the netbook may
be only able to handle WEP while the router is proably WPA/WPA2-PSK.


That doesnt answer why this has suddenly happened though.

It would have to be a mighty OLD piece of hardware not to do WPA. I
borowed an EEpc an that did WPA

But as usual we dont know amything about the notebook other than its an
asus, becaiuse the original poster hasn't deigned to tell us.


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On 08/07/2019 11:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
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I'd agree this looks like WEP, but it sounds to me like the netbook
may be only able to handle WEP while the router is proably WPA/WPA2-PSK.


That doesnt answer why this has suddenly happened though.

It would have to be a mighty OLD piece of hardware not to do WPA. I
borowed an EEpc an that did WPA


Agreed. I've not booted my old EeePC in a long time...


But as usual we dont know amything about the notebook other than its an
asus, becaiuse the originalÂ* poster hasn't deigned to tell us.


Quite.
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On 08/07/2019 08:52, Chris Bartram wrote:

I'd agree this looks like WEP, but it sounds to me like the netbook may
be only able to handle WEP while the router is proably WPA/WPA2-PSK.


The netbook was working before from that router.
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On 08/07/2019 11:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
But as usual we dont know amything about the notebook other than its an
asus, becaiuse the originalÂ* poster hasn't deigned to tell us.


It is an Asus Eee PC 1001P running win xp.
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On 08/07/2019 13:17, ss wrote:
On 08/07/2019 08:52, Chris Bartram wrote:

I'd agree this looks like WEP, but it sounds to me like the netbook
may be only able to handle WEP while the router is proably WPA/WPA2-PSK.


The netbook was working before from that router.


Yes. which is weird. Either the router used to handle WEP or te netbook
used to talk WPA.

On or the other has (been?) changed...

So now you are here, what operating system and exact model of netbook is it?


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On 08/07/2019 13:19, ss wrote:
On 08/07/2019 11:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
But as usual we dont know amything about the notebook other than its
an asus, becaiuse the originalÂ* poster hasn't deigned to tell us.


It is an Asus Eee PC 1001P running win xp.


which service pack?, needs to be 2 or 3 to get WPA.

https://www.asus.com/Laptops/Eee_PC_...Desk_Download/

has a series of latest drivers for that including the wifi driver.

However it does look like you can go into windows networking and select
which protocol to use

I just fired up XP in my virtial box and went to control panbel and tild
it to set up a new wifi connection. It gave me the (unticked) option of
using WPA (WPA-2 is only available with service pack 3 which is too big
for a netbook really)

So I suggest that you delete existing wifi connections and use the
wizard to set up a new one, ticking the WPA box and using the SSID and
password on your router when asked


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On 07/07/2019 14:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/07/2019 11:37, ss wrote:
On 07/07/2019 10:46, GB wrote:
On 07/07/2019 10:40, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jul 2019 09:28:48 +0100, ss wrote:

Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.

I vaguely recall the previous thread.

Have you got any devices using WiFi with this router working *as I
type* ?



What is the make and model of the router?


Router:


https://imgur.com/wOf8ffd

Netbook is an Asus.

well you have scrubbed out the network password

If the netbook USED to work then either its capable of running WPA or
the router used to run WEP as well.

Probanbly BT reconfigured the router so it doesn't, for security reasons.

'Netbook is an Asus' is about as informative as 'car is a Ford'

Why is this so hard?

Make and MODEL number.



I would bet (as it looks to be a Virgin "super" hub), VM have pushed new
firmware to it since the netbook last worked and it no longer supports
an encryption scheme it used to. VM have been making a lot of noise
about their new "intelligent" wifi.

yet another giood reason to use it in modem mode and supply your own
router IMO.
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Eventually I got put onto some who actually knew a bit about something
and they advised on how to get modem mode. This was long before it was
splashed across forums.

Had 2 VM hub upgrades since, and the only thing faster than their
broadband is the speed with which I put them into modem mode.


+1 ;-)

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On 08/07/2019 13:46, Chris Bartram wrote:

I would bet (as it looks to be a Virgin "super" hub), VM have pushed new
firmware to it since the netbook last worked and it no longer supports
an encryption scheme it used to. VM have been making a lot of noise
about their new "intelligent" wifi.

yet another giood reason to use it in modem mode and supply your own
router IMO.


If I understand correctly that would not be good as I only use it on
hols so requires wi-fi.
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On 08/07/2019 15:24, ss wrote:
On 08/07/2019 13:46, Chris Bartram wrote:

I would bet (as it looks to be a Virgin "super" hub), VM have pushed
new firmware to it since the netbook last worked and it no longer
supports an encryption scheme it used to. VM have been making a lot of
noise about their new "intelligent" wifi.

yet another giood reason to use it in modem mode and supply your own
router IMO.


If I understand correctly that would not be good as I only use it on
hols so requires wi-fi.

No, use the VM superhub in modem mode, rather than as a router.
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On 07/07/2019 09:28, ss wrote:

Having another attempt to get this netbook working on wi-fi.

It connects to the web if connected to the ethernet cable.
I have been putting in the various codes / passwords for the router but
then get this message.....

"It is asking for a network password needs to be 40bits or 104bits
depending on your network configuration. This can be entered as a 5 or
13 ascii characters or 10 or 26 hexadecimal characters".

The above does not relate to anything on the router label, I have tried
all the numbers/passwords to no avail.

Anyone know what or where I get this?


If you can get the netbook running on the ethernet as a temporary
measure, then drop me an email (or give me a bell on the office number -
see web site), and I can arrange to have a look at it for you via remote
control.


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