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Huge wrote
Bod wrote

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

Dandelions just grow close to the ground instead.

Not here they didnt. Those who mowed them and those who
didnt bother all got the same result none of them in a few weeks.

Eh? They vanished from doing nothing?

Yeah, they are seasonal after all.

Doesn't bother me what grows on my lawn.


I'd rather mine hadn't been invaded by kikuyu which
is essentially african jungle pretending to be grass.


Oh, I thought you planted that on purpose.


Nar, I planted the entire back lawn with a very fine runner grass that
a mate of mine, the gardener at work, had a big patch of at work.

Didnt survive the kikuyu from the neighours tho. That stuff will
take over everything, by far the most aggressive grass around.

I wasnt joking when I said its African jungle pretending to be grass.

It's a soft flat green area. Moss, clover, grass, whatever.


You've clearly never tried kikuyu or buffalo.


I looked at a photo of Kikuyu and it looks fine to me.


Its fine if you dont mind having to mow it twice a week in summer.

**** that for a joke.

Just wider blades than I have here.


And runners that can be as thick as your little finger.

Thats actually and advantage if you want to get rid of it
to grow tomatoes etc, but it grows back at one hell of a rate.

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Nope, he actually is that stupid.

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On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:02:55 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:

FLUSH the endless BULL****


Are these posts automatically generated using robotic software?


I don't think Peeler has ever got over his rejected advances to Peter.

He just sits there hoping to hear a message from Peter with nothing
better to do all day.

Sad, but true.
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 19:54:35 +0200, The Peeler
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:02:55 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James
Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:

FLUSH the endless BULL****


Are these posts automatically generated using robotic software?


I don't think Peeler has ever got over his rejected advances to Peter.

He just sits there hoping to hear a message from Peter with nothing better
to do all day.

Sad, but true.


Interesting to watch some implode so spectacularly.

In victorian times some used to show up at Bedlam
and poke a stick at the loonys chained to the wall.

We get to do it from the comfort of our homes and don’t
have any risk at all of being bitten by some rabid loon.

The turnip is also getting more rabid by the day.

And TMH has imploded so spectacularly that
he hasn’t been heard of for many months now.
Presumably furiously tearing up the carpet in
some loony bin now.



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Are you senile? You ARE senile, right? BG


I think I may be heading that way. Did something yesterday I've never
done before.

There I am yesterday morning, sitting on the bog, doing what needs to be
done, not a care in the world, stood up, closed the lid and flushed,
only to realise I had missed out the paper stage. Slightly worrying.


You made me laugh the hardest I have all day.

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On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:57:58 +0100, harry

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On Thursday, 20 April 2017 14:21:49 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 12:05:48 +0100, Max Demian
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On 20/04/2017 09:00, harry wrote:
On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian
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On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that
grass likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than
broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.

It evolved to tolerate grazing.

So mowing is normal.

Well, "natural", as in similar to the natural state.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized
instead.

Because it loses leaf matter to the mower.

Only if you rake it or use a box. I don't. Even people who do
still
have healthy green lawns without adding anything, so clearly it
doesn't need fertiliser.



For a while.

I've not fertilised mine or left the clippings on it for 17 years.
It's
fine.

Ours has never been fertilsed nor watered, I always leave the
clippings
on the lawn, they provide nutrients when they break down naturally.
Our lawns look as good as anyone elses that do fertilise their
lawns.
I let ours go brown in the dry summers, I actually like that
because
it
saves me constantly cutting the lawns.
They always recover under their own steam.

I leave my clippings on the lawn through laziness.

I don't mow mine, but when I did I never used the catcher.

You have a lawn 3 foot high then?

Nope, Kikuyu never gets that high. a foot a most.

Fancy looking grass:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:S...andestinum.jpg

Yeah, it's a ****ing aggressive grass, looks pretty
good if you keep mowing it. It's a runner grass.

A foot is still rather long. Don't people call you a hermit?

No one can see it in the backyard and I don't give a
flying red **** what anyone thinks about anything.


Wouldn't you prefer to see a nice flat lawn?


Sure, if there was some completely automatic
lawnmower I could just buy and turn on.

But not if I have to mow the ****ing
thing every week except in winter.


Why are you so bloody lazy?

Or do you hire a gardener?

Nope, a lawnmower either.

No point in wasting your time carting up to the dump etc.

Don't you have a wheely bin for garden refuse?

Nope. One for non recyclable garbage
and other for recyclable garbage.

3rd world country. I have 5 different collections for stuff.

Mindlessly stupidly over complicated. You lot are
paying for that stupidly over complicated stupidity.


No, we're sorting it so we don't have to pay them to do so .


You pay for 5 different collections.

We arent stupid enough to pay anyone to sort
what shows up in the 2 collections we have.


They have to sort it at their end, or it can't be recycled. Anyway most of the council tax is spent on other things:

Education of other people's little ****s: 29%
Housing those who are too lazy to get a job: 23%
Social workers whatever they do: 18%
Cultural and Leisure services (ugh!): 8%
--- Environmental Services (including bins): 3% ---
Other bits and pieces: 19%

http://www.clacksweb.org.uk/document/3063.pdf

I'm not convinced they fertilise MY lawn,

Corse it does, there is nothing else for it to do.

they probably blow away by the time they've rotted.

Nope, not on any lawn I have ever observed. The park next
to my house is mown with a ****ing great tractor which
always leaves the clippings on the mown grass. Even when
its been a long time since the previous mow and there is
lots of visible clippings on the mown grass, it doesn't stay
there for more than a few days even when there is no wind.

Everything else blows around, like tree leaves.

Nope, lawn clippings don't. They fall down between the
blades of grass that are still there after the mowing.

Possibly.

Absolutely certainly.


How can you be sure, have you stood there and watched?


I've looked at it after it has been mowed. There are no cuttings
visible except when it hasn't been mowed for weeks before cutting.
And even then, it doesn't stay visible for long, a week at most
before its all disappeared into the stuff left after the mowing.


But it could have blown away, then it wouldn't be visible either.

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I wouldn't know. I have a filter, and I don't see any of their posts.

Until someone fx points repeats them...

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I wouldn't know. I have a filter, and I don't see any of their posts.

Until someone fx points repeats them...

Andy


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On 21/04/2017 10:16, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:57:58 +0100, harry

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On Thursday, 20 April 2017 14:21:49 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 12:05:48 +0100, Max Demian
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On 20/04/2017 09:00, harry wrote:
On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian
wrote:
On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago
that
grass likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and
they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than
broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.

It evolved to tolerate grazing.

So mowing is normal.

Well, "natural", as in similar to the natural state.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized
instead.

Because it loses leaf matter to the mower.

Only if you rake it or use a box. I don't. Even people who
do
still
have healthy green lawns without adding anything, so clearly
it
doesn't need fertiliser.



For a while.

I've not fertilised mine or left the clippings on it for 17
years.
It's
fine.

Ours has never been fertilsed nor watered, I always leave the
clippings
on the lawn, they provide nutrients when they break down
naturally.
Our lawns look as good as anyone elses that do fertilise their
lawns.
I let ours go brown in the dry summers, I actually like that
because
it
saves me constantly cutting the lawns.
They always recover under their own steam.

I leave my clippings on the lawn through laziness.

I don't mow mine, but when I did I never used the catcher.

You have a lawn 3 foot high then?

Nope, Kikuyu never gets that high. a foot a most.

Fancy looking grass:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:S...andestinum.jpg

Yeah, it's a ****ing aggressive grass, looks pretty
good if you keep mowing it. It's a runner grass.

A foot is still rather long. Don't people call you a hermit?

No one can see it in the backyard and I don't give a
flying red **** what anyone thinks about anything.

Wouldn't you prefer to see a nice flat lawn?


Sure, if there was some completely automatic
lawnmower I could just buy and turn on.

But not if I have to mow the ****ing
thing every week except in winter.


Why are you so bloody lazy?


Unlike you, I have much better things to do with my time.

Or do you hire a gardener?

Nope, a lawnmower either.

No point in wasting your time carting up to the dump etc.

Don't you have a wheely bin for garden refuse?

Nope. One for non recyclable garbage
and other for recyclable garbage.

3rd world country. I have 5 different collections for stuff.

Mindlessly stupidly over complicated. You lot are
paying for that stupidly over complicated stupidity.

No, we're sorting it so we don't have to pay them to do so .


You pay for 5 different collections.

We arent stupid enough to pay anyone to sort
what shows up in the 2 collections we have.


They have to sort it at their end, or it can't be recycled.


Yep, we arent stupid enough to recycle that ****.

Complete waste of time and money.

Anyway most of the council tax is spent on other things:


Irrelevant, no point in wasting any on **** like that.

Education of other people's little ****s: 29%


Not with ours, the council doesn't do
education, the state and federal govt do.

Housing those who are too lazy to get a job: 23%


Not with ours, the council doesn't do housing, the state govt does.

Social workers whatever they do: 18%


Not with ours, the council doesn't do social
workers, the state and federal govt does.

Cultural and Leisure services (ugh!): 8%


Not with ours, the council doesn't do
those, the state and federal govt does.

--- Environmental Services (including bins): 3% ---


Dunno what the percentage is here, likely about the same.

Other bits and pieces: 19%


The bulk of ours goes on roads, streets,
other stuff like swimming pools etc.

http://www.clacksweb.org.uk/document/3063.pdf


Stupid way to do things.

I'm not convinced they fertilise MY lawn,

Corse it does, there is nothing else for it to do.

they probably blow away by the time they've rotted.

Nope, not on any lawn I have ever observed. The park next
to my house is mown with a ****ing great tractor which
always leaves the clippings on the mown grass. Even when
its been a long time since the previous mow and there is
lots of visible clippings on the mown grass, it doesn't stay
there for more than a few days even when there is no wind.

Everything else blows around, like tree leaves.

Nope, lawn clippings don't. They fall down between the
blades of grass that are still there after the mowing.

Possibly.

Absolutely certainly.

How can you be sure, have you stood there and watched?


I've looked at it after it has been mowed. There are no cuttings
visible except when it hasn't been mowed for weeks before cutting.
And even then, it doesn't stay visible for long, a week at most
before its all disappeared into the stuff left after the mowing.


But it could have blown away,


I know it hasn't. It doesn't move when its windy. Its
pretty big pieces when it hasn't been mowed for weeks.

then it wouldn't be visible either.





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"Fredxxx" wrote in message
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On 29/04/2017 10:37, Scott wrote:
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 19:54:35 +0200, The Peeler
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:02:55 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James
Wilkinson"),
the pathological attention whore of all the uk ngs, blathered again:

FLUSH the endless BULL****

Are these posts automatically generated using robotic software?


I don't think Peeler has ever got over his rejected advances to Peter.

He just sits there hoping to hear a message from Peter with nothing
better to do all day.

Sad, but true.


Interesting to watch some implode so spectacularly.

In victorian times some used to show up at Bedlam
and poke a stick at the loonys chained to the wall.

We get to do it from the comfort of our homes and don’t
have any risk at all of being bitten by some rabid loon.

The turnip is also getting more rabid by the day.

And TMH has imploded so spectacularly that
he hasn’t been heard of for many months now.
Presumably furiously tearing up the carpet in
some loony bin now.


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On Thursday, 20 April 2017 12:05:53 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 20/04/2017 09:00, harry wrote:
On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.

It evolved to tolerate grazing.

So mowing is normal.

Well, "natural", as in similar to the natural state.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized instead.

Because it loses leaf matter to the mower.

Exactly. if you don't fertiize, all you get growing is deep rooted
weeds.

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

The park next to my house has NEVER been fertilised in the
50 years its been there. Its mowed every couple of weeks or
so in the summer and less often in the winter with a ****ing
great tractor mounted mower that is about twice the size
of my car with the cuttings left where they fall.

It is normal grass, nothing even remotely like deep rooted weeds.

My backyard has kikuyu that is about a foot deep and it has never
ever been fertilized in 50 years either and there are sweet **** all
deep rooted weeds there either.


I presume harry as referring to grass which is mown and the cuttings taken
away, making the ground more suitable for weeds than grass.


He'd be wrong about that too. Even when the cuttings
are removed, you still don't need to fertilise it.

Mind you, I mow my lawn and leave the cuttings on it, and it's full of
weeds. It's probably more to do with sunlight, water, and surrounding
trees taking nutrients away.


Nope. You don't mow it enough. Mow it enough and the weeds don't last long.
They cant survive having their heads chopped off. Grass doesn't care.


My back lawn has trees dotted around it. The grass won't grow AT ALL under the trees, but weeds do.

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On Thursday, 20 April 2017 12:05:53 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 20/04/2017 09:00, harry wrote:
On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.

It evolved to tolerate grazing.

So mowing is normal.

Well, "natural", as in similar to the natural state.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized instead.

Because it loses leaf matter to the mower.

Exactly. if you don't fertiize, all you get growing is deep rooted
weeds.

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

The park next to my house has NEVER been fertilised in the
50 years its been there. Its mowed every couple of weeks or
so in the summer and less often in the winter with a ****ing
great tractor mounted mower that is about twice the size
of my car with the cuttings left where they fall.

It is normal grass, nothing even remotely like deep rooted weeds.

My backyard has kikuyu that is about a foot deep and it has never
ever been fertilized in 50 years either and there are sweet **** all
deep rooted weeds there either.


I presume harry as referring to grass which is mown and the cuttings
taken
away, making the ground more suitable for weeds than grass.


He'd be wrong about that too. Even when the cuttings
are removed, you still don't need to fertilise it.

Mind you, I mow my lawn and leave the cuttings on it, and it's full of
weeds. It's probably more to do with sunlight, water, and surrounding
trees taking nutrients away.


Nope. You don't mow it enough. Mow it enough and the weeds don't last
long.
They cant survive having their heads chopped off. Grass doesn't care.


My back lawn has trees dotted around it. The grass won't grow AT ALL
under the trees, but weeds do.


The park next to my house has quite a few trees and grass growing right up
to the trunk of all of them.

You've got feeble old world genetically ****ed grass.

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On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

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Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.
So mowing is normal.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized instead.

Pigs arse it does. The park next to my place has NEVER been fertilized in
50
years.

Neither has my grass and mine isnt even mowed.


Indeed - mainly plants just need water and CO2.


Yep, my trees have never had anything else.

The biggest ones are immense now.


Hydroponics or something only uses water and CO2 I believe. I've bought parts from hydroponics suppliers for other uses.

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On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

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Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.
So mowing is normal.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized instead.

Pigs arse it does. The park next to my place has NEVER been fertilized
in
50
years.

Neither has my grass and mine isnt even mowed.

Indeed - mainly plants just need water and CO2.


Yep, my trees have never had anything else.

The biggest ones are immense now.


Hydroponics or something only uses water and CO2 I believe.


Nope, they add fertilizer to the water.

I've bought parts from hydroponics suppliers for other uses.


Yeah, growing the MJ crop.



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Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

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Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.
So mowing is normal.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized instead.

Pigs arse it does. The park next to my place has NEVER been fertilized
in
50
years.

Neither has my grass and mine isnt even mowed.

Indeed - mainly plants just need water and CO2.

Yep, my trees have never had anything else.

The biggest ones are immense now.


Hydroponics or something only uses water and CO2 I believe.


Nope, they add fertilizer to the water.


Yet your trees are ok.

I've bought parts from hydroponics suppliers for other uses.


Yeah, growing the MJ crop.


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Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

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Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.
So mowing is normal.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized instead.

Pigs arse it does. The park next to my place has NEVER been
fertilized
in
50
years.

Neither has my grass and mine isnt even mowed.

Indeed - mainly plants just need water and CO2.

Yep, my trees have never had anything else.

The biggest ones are immense now.

Hydroponics or something only uses water and CO2 I believe.


Nope, they add fertilizer to the water.


Yet your trees are ok.


Sure, but a hydroponics operation normally wants to be
more productive and adding fertilizer improves productivity.

Same with ag operations.

I've bought parts from hydroponics suppliers for other uses.


Yeah, growing the MJ crop.


Actually a cooling system for bitcoin machines.


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Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

Dandelions just grow close to the ground instead.

Not here they didnt. Those who mowed them and those who
didnt bother all got the same result none of them in a few weeks.

Eh? They vanished from doing nothing?

Yeah, they are seasonal after all.

Doesn't bother me what grows on my lawn.

I'd rather mine hadn't been invaded by kikuyu which
is essentially african jungle pretending to be grass.


Oh, I thought you planted that on purpose.


Nar, I planted the entire back lawn with a very fine runner grass that
a mate of mine, the gardener at work, had a big patch of at work.

Didnt survive the kikuyu from the neighours tho. That stuff will
take over everything, by far the most aggressive grass around.

I wasnt joking when I said its African jungle pretending to be grass.


Couldn't you have had a gap between your lawns with some salt or weedkiller?

It's a soft flat green area. Moss, clover, grass, whatever.


You've clearly never tried kikuyu or buffalo.


I looked at a photo of Kikuyu and it looks fine to me.


Its fine if you dont mind having to mow it twice a week in summer.

**** that for a joke.


Mowing is easy, the motor does all the work.

Just wider blades than I have here.


And runners that can be as thick as your little finger.


Only if you let it grow that much.

And why does it grow well in your desert of a country?

Thats actually and advantage if you want to get rid of it
to grow tomatoes etc, but it grows back at one hell of a rate.


Eh?

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Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

Dandelions just grow close to the ground instead.

Not here they didnt. Those who mowed them and those who
didnt bother all got the same result none of them in a few weeks.

Eh? They vanished from doing nothing?

Yeah, they are seasonal after all.

Doesn't bother me what grows on my lawn.

I'd rather mine hadn't been invaded by kikuyu which
is essentially african jungle pretending to be grass.


Oh, I thought you planted that on purpose.


Nar, I planted the entire back lawn with a very fine runner grass that
a mate of mine, the gardener at work, had a big patch of at work.

Didnt survive the kikuyu from the neighours tho. That stuff will
take over everything, by far the most aggressive grass around.

I wasnt joking when I said its African jungle pretending to be grass.


Couldn't you have had a gap between your lawns with some salt or
weedkiller?


Doesnt stop kikuyu.

It's a soft flat green area. Moss, clover, grass, whatever.


You've clearly never tried kikuyu or buffalo.


I looked at a photo of Kikuyu and it looks fine to me.


Its fine if you dont mind having to mow it twice a week in summer.

**** that for a joke.


Mowing is easy, the motor does all the work.


Plenty better things to do with my time.

Just wider blades than I have here.


And runners that can be as thick as your little finger.


Only if you let it grow that much.


Wrong, it has those even if you mow it twice a week.

And why does it grow well in your desert of a country?


Because its african jungle pretending to be grass.

Thats actually an advantage if you want to get rid of it
to grow tomatoes etc, but it grows back at one hell of a rate.


Eh?


You can grab the runners and rip out 6-10'
of it in one go its to thick and rugged.

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On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago
that
grass likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and
they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than
broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.

It evolved to tolerate grazing.

So mowing is normal.

Well, "natural", as in similar to the natural state.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized
instead.

Because it loses leaf matter to the mower.

Only if you rake it or use a box. I don't. Even people who
do
still
have healthy green lawns without adding anything, so clearly
it
doesn't need fertiliser.



For a while.

I've not fertilised mine or left the clippings on it for 17
years.
It's
fine.

Ours has never been fertilsed nor watered, I always leave the
clippings
on the lawn, they provide nutrients when they break down
naturally.
Our lawns look as good as anyone elses that do fertilise their
lawns.
I let ours go brown in the dry summers, I actually like that
because
it
saves me constantly cutting the lawns.
They always recover under their own steam.

I leave my clippings on the lawn through laziness.

I don't mow mine, but when I did I never used the catcher.

You have a lawn 3 foot high then?

Nope, Kikuyu never gets that high. a foot a most.

Fancy looking grass:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:S...andestinum.jpg

Yeah, it's a ****ing aggressive grass, looks pretty
good if you keep mowing it. It's a runner grass.

A foot is still rather long. Don't people call you a hermit?

No one can see it in the backyard and I don't give a
flying red **** what anyone thinks about anything.

Wouldn't you prefer to see a nice flat lawn?

Sure, if there was some completely automatic
lawnmower I could just buy and turn on.

But not if I have to mow the ****ing
thing every week except in winter.


Why are you so bloody lazy?


Unlike you, I have much better things to do with my time.


Mowing doesn't take long.

Or do you hire a gardener?

Nope, a lawnmower either.

No point in wasting your time carting up to the dump etc.

Don't you have a wheely bin for garden refuse?

Nope. One for non recyclable garbage
and other for recyclable garbage.

3rd world country. I have 5 different collections for stuff.

Mindlessly stupidly over complicated. You lot are
paying for that stupidly over complicated stupidity.

No, we're sorting it so we don't have to pay them to do so .

You pay for 5 different collections.

We arent stupid enough to pay anyone to sort
what shows up in the 2 collections we have.


They have to sort it at their end, or it can't be recycled.


Yep, we arent stupid enough to recycle that ****.

Complete waste of time and money.


Cheaper than mining new materials.

Anyway most of the council tax is spent on other things:


Irrelevant, no point in wasting any on **** like that.

Education of other people's little ****s: 29%


Not with ours, the council doesn't do
education, the state and federal govt do.


Same here, the government gives money to the council. So I can't tell what goes where. Don't see the point in council tax really, as most of their money is from the central government.

Housing those who are too lazy to get a job: 23%


Not with ours, the council doesn't do housing, the state govt does.

Social workers whatever they do: 18%


Not with ours, the council doesn't do social
workers, the state and federal govt does.

Cultural and Leisure services (ugh!): 8%


Not with ours, the council doesn't do
those, the state and federal govt does.

--- Environmental Services (including bins): 3% ---


Dunno what the percentage is here, likely about the same.


So your claim that more wheely bins would cost a fortune is nonsense.

Other bits and pieces: 19%


The bulk of ours goes on roads, streets,
other stuff like swimming pools etc.


We waste too much on retarmaccing streets which are just fine. Cars have suspension. And since speedbumps are 10 times bigger than holes, no point in fixing the holes.

http://www.clacksweb.org.uk/document/3063.pdf


Stupid way to do things.


Elaborate.

I'm not convinced they fertilise MY lawn,

Corse it does, there is nothing else for it to do.

they probably blow away by the time they've rotted.

Nope, not on any lawn I have ever observed. The park next
to my house is mown with a ****ing great tractor which
always leaves the clippings on the mown grass. Even when
its been a long time since the previous mow and there is
lots of visible clippings on the mown grass, it doesn't stay
there for more than a few days even when there is no wind.

Everything else blows around, like tree leaves.

Nope, lawn clippings don't. They fall down between the
blades of grass that are still there after the mowing.

Possibly.

Absolutely certainly.

How can you be sure, have you stood there and watched?

I've looked at it after it has been mowed. There are no cuttings
visible except when it hasn't been mowed for weeks before cutting.
And even then, it doesn't stay visible for long, a week at most
before its all disappeared into the stuff left after the mowing.


But it could have blown away,


I know it hasn't. It doesn't move when its windy. Its
pretty big pieces when it hasn't been mowed for weeks.


Not that you have much experience of mowing you lazy git.

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On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.

It evolved to tolerate grazing.

So mowing is normal.

Well, "natural", as in similar to the natural state.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized instead.

Because it loses leaf matter to the mower.

Exactly. if you don't fertiize, all you get growing is deep rooted
weeds.

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

The park next to my house has NEVER been fertilised in the
50 years its been there. Its mowed every couple of weeks or
so in the summer and less often in the winter with a ****ing
great tractor mounted mower that is about twice the size
of my car with the cuttings left where they fall.

It is normal grass, nothing even remotely like deep rooted weeds.

My backyard has kikuyu that is about a foot deep and it has never
ever been fertilized in 50 years either and there are sweet **** all
deep rooted weeds there either.

I presume harry as referring to grass which is mown and the cuttings
taken
away, making the ground more suitable for weeds than grass.

He'd be wrong about that too. Even when the cuttings
are removed, you still don't need to fertilise it.

Mind you, I mow my lawn and leave the cuttings on it, and it's full of
weeds. It's probably more to do with sunlight, water, and surrounding
trees taking nutrients away.

Nope. You don't mow it enough. Mow it enough and the weeds don't last
long.
They cant survive having their heads chopped off. Grass doesn't care.


My back lawn has trees dotted around it. The grass won't grow AT ALL
under the trees, but weeds do.


The park next to my house has quite a few trees and grass growing right up
to the trunk of all of them.

You've got feeble old world genetically ****ed grass.


More likely **** weather.

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On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.

It evolved to tolerate grazing.

So mowing is normal.

Well, "natural", as in similar to the natural state.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized instead.

Because it loses leaf matter to the mower.

Exactly. if you don't fertiize, all you get growing is deep rooted
weeds.

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

The park next to my house has NEVER been fertilised in the
50 years its been there. Its mowed every couple of weeks or
so in the summer and less often in the winter with a ****ing
great tractor mounted mower that is about twice the size
of my car with the cuttings left where they fall.

It is normal grass, nothing even remotely like deep rooted weeds.

My backyard has kikuyu that is about a foot deep and it has never
ever been fertilized in 50 years either and there are sweet **** all
deep rooted weeds there either.

I presume harry as referring to grass which is mown and the cuttings
taken
away, making the ground more suitable for weeds than grass.

He'd be wrong about that too. Even when the cuttings
are removed, you still don't need to fertilise it.

Mind you, I mow my lawn and leave the cuttings on it, and it's full of
weeds. It's probably more to do with sunlight, water, and surrounding
trees taking nutrients away.

Nope. You don't mow it enough. Mow it enough and the weeds don't last
long.
They cant survive having their heads chopped off. Grass doesn't care.

My back lawn has trees dotted around it. The grass won't grow AT ALL
under the trees, but weeds do.


The park next to my house has quite a few trees and grass growing right
up
to the trunk of all of them.

You've got feeble old world genetically ****ed grass.


More likely **** weather.


Kikuyu will grow fine there.

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Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

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Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.
So mowing is normal.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized instead.

Pigs arse it does. The park next to my place has NEVER been
fertilized
in
50
years.

Neither has my grass and mine isnt even mowed.

Indeed - mainly plants just need water and CO2.

Yep, my trees have never had anything else.

The biggest ones are immense now.

Hydroponics or something only uses water and CO2 I believe.

Nope, they add fertilizer to the water.


Yet your trees are ok.


Sure, but a hydroponics operation normally wants to be
more productive and adding fertilizer improves productivity.

Same with ag operations.


Apparently if a plant has enough nitrogen, adding fertiliser does nothing at all.

I've bought parts from hydroponics suppliers for other uses.


Yeah, growing the MJ crop.


Actually a cooling system for bitcoin machines.


Corse you would say that...


MJ doesn't need such things.

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You've clearly never tried kikuyu or buffalo.

I looked at a photo of Kikuyu and it looks fine to me.

Its fine if you dont mind having to mow it twice a week in summer.

**** that for a joke.


Mowing is easy, the motor does all the work.


Plenty better things to do with my time.


It's not a lot of time.

Just wider blades than I have here.

And runners that can be as thick as your little finger.


Only if you let it grow that much.


Wrong, it has those even if you mow it twice a week.

And why does it grow well in your desert of a country?


Because its african jungle pretending to be grass.

Thats actually an advantage if you want to get rid of it
to grow tomatoes etc, but it grows back at one hell of a rate.


Eh?


You can grab the runners and rip out 6-10'
of it in one go its to thick and rugged.


Can't you kill it all by burning it or something?

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On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.

It evolved to tolerate grazing.

So mowing is normal.

Well, "natural", as in similar to the natural state.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized instead.

Because it loses leaf matter to the mower.

Exactly. if you don't fertiize, all you get growing is deep rooted
weeds.

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

The park next to my house has NEVER been fertilised in the
50 years its been there. Its mowed every couple of weeks or
so in the summer and less often in the winter with a ****ing
great tractor mounted mower that is about twice the size
of my car with the cuttings left where they fall.

It is normal grass, nothing even remotely like deep rooted weeds.

My backyard has kikuyu that is about a foot deep and it has never
ever been fertilized in 50 years either and there are sweet **** all
deep rooted weeds there either.

I presume harry as referring to grass which is mown and the cuttings
taken
away, making the ground more suitable for weeds than grass.

He'd be wrong about that too. Even when the cuttings
are removed, you still don't need to fertilise it.

Mind you, I mow my lawn and leave the cuttings on it, and it's full of
weeds. It's probably more to do with sunlight, water, and surrounding
trees taking nutrients away.

Nope. You don't mow it enough. Mow it enough and the weeds don't last
long.
They cant survive having their heads chopped off. Grass doesn't care.

My back lawn has trees dotted around it. The grass won't grow AT ALL
under the trees, but weeds do.

The park next to my house has quite a few trees and grass growing right
up
to the trunk of all of them.

You've got feeble old world genetically ****ed grass.


More likely **** weather.


Kikuyu will grow fine there.


Then why doesn't it?

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On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

--
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Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.
So mowing is normal.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized instead.

Pigs arse it does. The park next to my place has NEVER been
fertilized
in
50
years.

Neither has my grass and mine isnt even mowed.

Indeed - mainly plants just need water and CO2.

Yep, my trees have never had anything else.

The biggest ones are immense now.

Hydroponics or something only uses water and CO2 I believe.

Nope, they add fertilizer to the water.


Yet your trees are ok.


Sure, but a hydroponics operation normally wants to be
more productive and adding fertilizer improves productivity.

Same with ag operations.


Apparently if a plant has enough nitrogen, adding fertiliser does nothing
at all.


Its much more complicated than that and
it isnt just nitrogen in the fertiliser anyway.

I've bought parts from hydroponics suppliers for other uses.


Yeah, growing the MJ crop.


Actually a cooling system for bitcoin machines.


Corse you would say that...


MJ doesn't need such things.


It does grow well with hydroponics.

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You've clearly never tried kikuyu or buffalo.

I looked at a photo of Kikuyu and it looks fine to me.

Its fine if you dont mind having to mow it twice a week in summer.

**** that for a joke.

Mowing is easy, the motor does all the work.


Plenty better things to do with my time.


It's not a lot of time.


No point in wasting that on mowing the ****ing lawn.

Just wider blades than I have here.

And runners that can be as thick as your little finger.

Only if you let it grow that much.


Wrong, it has those even if you mow it twice a week.

And why does it grow well in your desert of a country?


Because its african jungle pretending to be grass.

Thats actually an advantage if you want to get rid of it
to grow tomatoes etc, but it grows back at one hell of a rate.


Eh?


You can grab the runners and rip out 6-10'
of it in one go its to thick and rugged.


Can't you kill it all by burning it or something?


Nope, it doesnt burn.

You could use napalm but the local fire brigade got
all stroppy when I burnt the dead stuff off my big line
of trees. They'd go ballistic if I used napalm and I
doubt the neighbours would be too impressed either.

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On 20/04/2017 09:00, harry wrote:
On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.

It evolved to tolerate grazing.

So mowing is normal.

Well, "natural", as in similar to the natural state.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized
instead.

Because it loses leaf matter to the mower.

Exactly. if you don't fertiize, all you get growing is deep rooted
weeds.

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

The park next to my house has NEVER been fertilised in the
50 years its been there. Its mowed every couple of weeks or
so in the summer and less often in the winter with a ****ing
great tractor mounted mower that is about twice the size
of my car with the cuttings left where they fall.

It is normal grass, nothing even remotely like deep rooted weeds.

My backyard has kikuyu that is about a foot deep and it has never
ever been fertilized in 50 years either and there are sweet ****
all
deep rooted weeds there either.

I presume harry as referring to grass which is mown and the cuttings
taken
away, making the ground more suitable for weeds than grass.

He'd be wrong about that too. Even when the cuttings
are removed, you still don't need to fertilise it.

Mind you, I mow my lawn and leave the cuttings on it, and it's full
of
weeds. It's probably more to do with sunlight, water, and
surrounding
trees taking nutrients away.

Nope. You don't mow it enough. Mow it enough and the weeds don't last
long.
They cant survive having their heads chopped off. Grass doesn't care.

My back lawn has trees dotted around it. The grass won't grow AT ALL
under the trees, but weeds do.

The park next to my house has quite a few trees and grass growing right
up
to the trunk of all of them.

You've got feeble old world genetically ****ed grass.

More likely **** weather.


Kikuyu will grow fine there.


Then why doesn't it?


You lot prefer a less coarse grass.

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On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

--
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Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.
So mowing is normal.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized instead.

Pigs arse it does. The park next to my place has NEVER been
fertilized
in
50
years.

Neither has my grass and mine isnt even mowed.

Indeed - mainly plants just need water and CO2.

Yep, my trees have never had anything else.

The biggest ones are immense now.

Hydroponics or something only uses water and CO2 I believe.

Nope, they add fertilizer to the water.

Yet your trees are ok.

Sure, but a hydroponics operation normally wants to be
more productive and adding fertilizer improves productivity.

Same with ag operations.


Apparently if a plant has enough nitrogen, adding fertiliser does nothing
at all.


Its much more complicated than that and
it isnt just nitrogen in the fertiliser anyway.


Well I added fertiliser (double the recommended dose) to some house plants that weren't doing very well (spider plants a cat sat on and a cactus that was shrivelling up) and they didn't grow faster or become healthier.

I've bought parts from hydroponics suppliers for other uses.

Yeah, growing the MJ crop.

Actually a cooling system for bitcoin machines.

Corse you would say that...


MJ doesn't need such things.


It does grow well with hydroponics.


What's the advantage of hydroponics over soil? (for nay plant not just MJ).

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On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.

It evolved to tolerate grazing.

So mowing is normal.

Well, "natural", as in similar to the natural state.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized
instead.

Because it loses leaf matter to the mower.

Exactly. if you don't fertiize, all you get growing is deep rooted
weeds.

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

The park next to my house has NEVER been fertilised in the
50 years its been there. Its mowed every couple of weeks or
so in the summer and less often in the winter with a ****ing
great tractor mounted mower that is about twice the size
of my car with the cuttings left where they fall.

It is normal grass, nothing even remotely like deep rooted weeds.

My backyard has kikuyu that is about a foot deep and it has never
ever been fertilized in 50 years either and there are sweet ****
all
deep rooted weeds there either.

I presume harry as referring to grass which is mown and the cuttings
taken
away, making the ground more suitable for weeds than grass.

He'd be wrong about that too. Even when the cuttings
are removed, you still don't need to fertilise it.

Mind you, I mow my lawn and leave the cuttings on it, and it's full
of
weeds. It's probably more to do with sunlight, water, and
surrounding
trees taking nutrients away.

Nope. You don't mow it enough. Mow it enough and the weeds don't last
long.
They cant survive having their heads chopped off. Grass doesn't care.

My back lawn has trees dotted around it. The grass won't grow AT ALL
under the trees, but weeds do.

The park next to my house has quite a few trees and grass growing right
up
to the trunk of all of them.

You've got feeble old world genetically ****ed grass.

More likely **** weather.

Kikuyu will grow fine there.


Then why doesn't it?


You lot prefer a less coarse grass.


Is it soft enough to walk on in bare feet?

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On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

--
Max Demian

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.
So mowing is normal.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized
instead.

Pigs arse it does. The park next to my place has NEVER been
fertilized
in
50
years.

Neither has my grass and mine isnt even mowed.

Indeed - mainly plants just need water and CO2.

Yep, my trees have never had anything else.

The biggest ones are immense now.

Hydroponics or something only uses water and CO2 I believe.

Nope, they add fertilizer to the water.

Yet your trees are ok.

Sure, but a hydroponics operation normally wants to be
more productive and adding fertilizer improves productivity.

Same with ag operations.

Apparently if a plant has enough nitrogen, adding fertiliser does
nothing
at all.


Its much more complicated than that and
it isnt just nitrogen in the fertiliser anyway.


Well I added fertiliser (double the recommended dose) to some house plants
that weren't doing very well (spider plants a cat sat on and a cactus that
was shrivelling up) and they didn't grow faster or become healthier.


Because the problem wasn't a lack of fertiliser,
the problem was that the cat sat on it.

I've bought parts from hydroponics suppliers for other uses.

Yeah, growing the MJ crop.

Actually a cooling system for bitcoin machines.

Corse you would say that...

MJ doesn't need such things.


It does grow well with hydroponics.


What's the advantage of hydroponics over soil?


Easier to completely automate. Plants don't actually
need soil, just something to put the roots into so they
don't fall over etc. We used rockwool or scoria or even
nothing at all with some plants like tomatoes that are
staked for other reasons.

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On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian
wrote:
On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than
broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.

It evolved to tolerate grazing.

So mowing is normal.

Well, "natural", as in similar to the natural state.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized
instead.

Because it loses leaf matter to the mower.

Exactly. if you don't fertiize, all you get growing is deep
rooted
weeds.

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

The park next to my house has NEVER been fertilised in the
50 years its been there. Its mowed every couple of weeks or
so in the summer and less often in the winter with a ****ing
great tractor mounted mower that is about twice the size
of my car with the cuttings left where they fall.

It is normal grass, nothing even remotely like deep rooted weeds.

My backyard has kikuyu that is about a foot deep and it has never
ever been fertilized in 50 years either and there are sweet ****
all
deep rooted weeds there either.

I presume harry as referring to grass which is mown and the
cuttings
taken
away, making the ground more suitable for weeds than grass.

He'd be wrong about that too. Even when the cuttings
are removed, you still don't need to fertilise it.

Mind you, I mow my lawn and leave the cuttings on it, and it's
full
of
weeds. It's probably more to do with sunlight, water, and
surrounding
trees taking nutrients away.

Nope. You don't mow it enough. Mow it enough and the weeds don't
last
long.
They cant survive having their heads chopped off. Grass doesn't
care.

My back lawn has trees dotted around it. The grass won't grow AT
ALL
under the trees, but weeds do.

The park next to my house has quite a few trees and grass growing
right
up
to the trunk of all of them.

You've got feeble old world genetically ****ed grass.

More likely **** weather.

Kikuyu will grow fine there.

Then why doesn't it?


You lot prefer a less coarse grass.


Is it soft enough to walk on in bare feet?


Yes, but then so is bare dirt and concrete. Plenty prefer a less coarse
grass.

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On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

--
Max Demian

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.
So mowing is normal.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized
instead.

Pigs arse it does. The park next to my place has NEVER been
fertilized
in
50
years.

Neither has my grass and mine isnt even mowed.

Indeed - mainly plants just need water and CO2.

Yep, my trees have never had anything else.

The biggest ones are immense now.

Hydroponics or something only uses water and CO2 I believe.

Nope, they add fertilizer to the water.

Yet your trees are ok.

Sure, but a hydroponics operation normally wants to be
more productive and adding fertilizer improves productivity.

Same with ag operations.

Apparently if a plant has enough nitrogen, adding fertiliser does
nothing
at all.

Its much more complicated than that and
it isnt just nitrogen in the fertiliser anyway.


Well I added fertiliser (double the recommended dose) to some house plants
that weren't doing very well (spider plants a cat sat on and a cactus that
was shrivelling up) and they didn't grow faster or become healthier.


Because the problem wasn't a lack of fertiliser,
the problem was that the cat sat on it.


But the solution is fast growth.

I've bought parts from hydroponics suppliers for other uses.

Yeah, growing the MJ crop.

Actually a cooling system for bitcoin machines.

Corse you would say that...

MJ doesn't need such things.

It does grow well with hydroponics.


What's the advantage of hydroponics over soil?


Easier to completely automate. Plants don't actually
need soil, just something to put the roots into so they
don't fall over etc. We used rockwool or scoria or even
nothing at all with some plants like tomatoes that are
staked for other reasons.


Why does soil stop automation?

(for nay plant not just MJ).



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On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than
broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.

It evolved to tolerate grazing.

So mowing is normal.

Well, "natural", as in similar to the natural state.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized
instead.

Because it loses leaf matter to the mower.

Exactly. if you don't fertiize, all you get growing is deep
rooted
weeds.

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

The park next to my house has NEVER been fertilised in the
50 years its been there. Its mowed every couple of weeks or
so in the summer and less often in the winter with a ****ing
great tractor mounted mower that is about twice the size
of my car with the cuttings left where they fall.

It is normal grass, nothing even remotely like deep rooted weeds.

My backyard has kikuyu that is about a foot deep and it has never
ever been fertilized in 50 years either and there are sweet ****
all
deep rooted weeds there either.

I presume harry as referring to grass which is mown and the
cuttings
taken
away, making the ground more suitable for weeds than grass.

He'd be wrong about that too. Even when the cuttings
are removed, you still don't need to fertilise it.

Mind you, I mow my lawn and leave the cuttings on it, and it's
full
of
weeds. It's probably more to do with sunlight, water, and
surrounding
trees taking nutrients away.

Nope. You don't mow it enough. Mow it enough and the weeds don't
last
long.
They cant survive having their heads chopped off. Grass doesn't
care.

My back lawn has trees dotted around it. The grass won't grow AT
ALL
under the trees, but weeds do.

The park next to my house has quite a few trees and grass growing
right
up
to the trunk of all of them.

You've got feeble old world genetically ****ed grass.

More likely **** weather.

Kikuyu will grow fine there.

Then why doesn't it?

You lot prefer a less coarse grass.


Is it soft enough to walk on in bare feet?


Yes, but then so is bare dirt and concrete. Plenty prefer a less coarse
grass.


Fusspots. I think the next time I need to buy grass seed I'll try Kikuyu. If only to **** of my neighbours :-)

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On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than
broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

--
Max Demian

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.
So mowing is normal.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized
instead.

Pigs arse it does. The park next to my place has NEVER been
fertilized
in
50
years.

Neither has my grass and mine isnt even mowed.

Indeed - mainly plants just need water and CO2.

Yep, my trees have never had anything else.

The biggest ones are immense now.

Hydroponics or something only uses water and CO2 I believe.

Nope, they add fertilizer to the water.

Yet your trees are ok.

Sure, but a hydroponics operation normally wants to be
more productive and adding fertilizer improves productivity.

Same with ag operations.

Apparently if a plant has enough nitrogen, adding fertiliser does
nothing
at all.

Its much more complicated than that and
it isnt just nitrogen in the fertiliser anyway.


Well I added fertiliser (double the recommended dose) to some house
plants
that weren't doing very well (spider plants a cat sat on and a cactus
that
was shrivelling up) and they didn't grow faster or become healthier.


Because the problem wasn't a lack of fertiliser,
the problem was that the cat sat on it.


But the solution is fast growth.


Not possible once the cat has sat on it.

I've bought parts from hydroponics suppliers for other uses.

Yeah, growing the MJ crop.

Actually a cooling system for bitcoin machines.

Corse you would say that...

MJ doesn't need such things.

It does grow well with hydroponics.

What's the advantage of hydroponics over soil?


Easier to completely automate. Plants don't actually
need soil, just something to put the roots into so they
don't fall over etc. We used rockwool or scoria or even
nothing at all with some plants like tomatoes that are
staked for other reasons.


Why does soil stop automation?


It doesn't, but it's a lot easier to automate with hydroponics.

(for nay plant not just MJ).





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On Thursday, 20 April 2017 12:05:53 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 20/04/2017 09:00, harry wrote:
On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian
wrote:
On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago
that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and
they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than
broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.

It evolved to tolerate grazing.

So mowing is normal.

Well, "natural", as in similar to the natural state.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized
instead.

Because it loses leaf matter to the mower.

Exactly. if you don't fertiize, all you get growing is deep
rooted
weeds.

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

The park next to my house has NEVER been fertilised in the
50 years its been there. Its mowed every couple of weeks or
so in the summer and less often in the winter with a ****ing
great tractor mounted mower that is about twice the size
of my car with the cuttings left where they fall.

It is normal grass, nothing even remotely like deep rooted
weeds.

My backyard has kikuyu that is about a foot deep and it has
never
ever been fertilized in 50 years either and there are sweet
****
all
deep rooted weeds there either.

I presume harry as referring to grass which is mown and the
cuttings
taken
away, making the ground more suitable for weeds than grass.

He'd be wrong about that too. Even when the cuttings
are removed, you still don't need to fertilise it.

Mind you, I mow my lawn and leave the cuttings on it, and it's
full
of
weeds. It's probably more to do with sunlight, water, and
surrounding
trees taking nutrients away.

Nope. You don't mow it enough. Mow it enough and the weeds don't
last
long.
They cant survive having their heads chopped off. Grass doesn't
care.

My back lawn has trees dotted around it. The grass won't grow AT
ALL
under the trees, but weeds do.

The park next to my house has quite a few trees and grass growing
right
up
to the trunk of all of them.

You've got feeble old world genetically ****ed grass.

More likely **** weather.

Kikuyu will grow fine there.

Then why doesn't it?

You lot prefer a less coarse grass.

Is it soft enough to walk on in bare feet?


Yes, but then so is bare dirt and concrete. Plenty prefer a less coarse
grass.


Fusspots. I think the next time I need to buy grass seed I'll try Kikuyu.


Kikuyu isnt a seed grass.

If only to **** of my neighbours :-)


It'll **** you off too.

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On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than
broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

--
Max Demian

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.
So mowing is normal.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized
instead.

Pigs arse it does. The park next to my place has NEVER been
fertilized
in
50
years.

Neither has my grass and mine isnt even mowed.

Indeed - mainly plants just need water and CO2.

Yep, my trees have never had anything else.

The biggest ones are immense now.

Hydroponics or something only uses water and CO2 I believe.

Nope, they add fertilizer to the water.

Yet your trees are ok.

Sure, but a hydroponics operation normally wants to be
more productive and adding fertilizer improves productivity.

Same with ag operations.

Apparently if a plant has enough nitrogen, adding fertiliser does
nothing
at all.

Its much more complicated than that and
it isnt just nitrogen in the fertiliser anyway.

Well I added fertiliser (double the recommended dose) to some house
plants
that weren't doing very well (spider plants a cat sat on and a cactus
that
was shrivelling up) and they didn't grow faster or become healthier.

Because the problem wasn't a lack of fertiliser,
the problem was that the cat sat on it.


But the solution is fast growth.


Not possible once the cat has sat on it.


Spider plants are pretty resilient, getting squashed doesn't kill it. I obviously moved it to a windowledge where the cat doesn't go.

I've bought parts from hydroponics suppliers for other uses.

Yeah, growing the MJ crop.

Actually a cooling system for bitcoin machines.

Corse you would say that...

MJ doesn't need such things.

It does grow well with hydroponics.

What's the advantage of hydroponics over soil?

Easier to completely automate. Plants don't actually
need soil, just something to put the roots into so they
don't fall over etc. We used rockwool or scoria or even
nothing at all with some plants like tomatoes that are
staked for other reasons.


Why does soil stop automation?


It doesn't, but it's a lot easier to automate with hydroponics.


Why?

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On Thursday, 20 April 2017 12:05:53 UTC+1, Max Demian wrote:
On 20/04/2017 09:00, harry wrote:
On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian
wrote:
On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago
that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and
they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than
broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.

It evolved to tolerate grazing.

So mowing is normal.

Well, "natural", as in similar to the natural state.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized
instead.

Because it loses leaf matter to the mower.

Exactly. if you don't fertiize, all you get growing is deep
rooted
weeds.

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

The park next to my house has NEVER been fertilised in the
50 years its been there. Its mowed every couple of weeks or
so in the summer and less often in the winter with a ****ing
great tractor mounted mower that is about twice the size
of my car with the cuttings left where they fall.

It is normal grass, nothing even remotely like deep rooted
weeds.

My backyard has kikuyu that is about a foot deep and it has
never
ever been fertilized in 50 years either and there are sweet
****
all
deep rooted weeds there either.

I presume harry as referring to grass which is mown and the
cuttings
taken
away, making the ground more suitable for weeds than grass.

He'd be wrong about that too. Even when the cuttings
are removed, you still don't need to fertilise it.

Mind you, I mow my lawn and leave the cuttings on it, and it's
full
of
weeds. It's probably more to do with sunlight, water, and
surrounding
trees taking nutrients away.

Nope. You don't mow it enough. Mow it enough and the weeds don't
last
long.
They cant survive having their heads chopped off. Grass doesn't
care.

My back lawn has trees dotted around it. The grass won't grow AT
ALL
under the trees, but weeds do.

The park next to my house has quite a few trees and grass growing
right
up
to the trunk of all of them.

You've got feeble old world genetically ****ed grass.

More likely **** weather.

Kikuyu will grow fine there.

Then why doesn't it?

You lot prefer a less coarse grass.

Is it soft enough to walk on in bare feet?

Yes, but then so is bare dirt and concrete. Plenty prefer a less coarse
grass.


Fusspots. I think the next time I need to buy grass seed I'll try Kikuyu.


Kikuyu isnt a seed grass.


It must make seeds surely.

What's this then? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151551068630

If only to **** of my neighbours :-)


It'll **** you off too.


I don't mind mowing, I'm not as lazy as you.

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On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:50:57 UTC+1, Max Demian
wrote:
On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago
that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and
they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from
the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than
broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.

It evolved to tolerate grazing.

So mowing is normal.

Well, "natural", as in similar to the natural state.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized
instead.

Because it loses leaf matter to the mower.

Exactly. if you don't fertiize, all you get growing is deep
rooted
weeds.

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

The park next to my house has NEVER been fertilised in the
50 years its been there. Its mowed every couple of weeks or
so in the summer and less often in the winter with a ****ing
great tractor mounted mower that is about twice the size
of my car with the cuttings left where they fall.

It is normal grass, nothing even remotely like deep rooted
weeds.

My backyard has kikuyu that is about a foot deep and it has
never
ever been fertilized in 50 years either and there are sweet
****
all
deep rooted weeds there either.

I presume harry as referring to grass which is mown and the
cuttings
taken
away, making the ground more suitable for weeds than grass.

He'd be wrong about that too. Even when the cuttings
are removed, you still don't need to fertilise it.

Mind you, I mow my lawn and leave the cuttings on it, and it's
full
of
weeds. It's probably more to do with sunlight, water, and
surrounding
trees taking nutrients away.

Nope. You don't mow it enough. Mow it enough and the weeds
don't
last
long.
They cant survive having their heads chopped off. Grass doesn't
care.

My back lawn has trees dotted around it. The grass won't grow
AT
ALL
under the trees, but weeds do.

The park next to my house has quite a few trees and grass growing
right
up
to the trunk of all of them.

You've got feeble old world genetically ****ed grass.

More likely **** weather.

Kikuyu will grow fine there.

Then why doesn't it?

You lot prefer a less coarse grass.

Is it soft enough to walk on in bare feet?

Yes, but then so is bare dirt and concrete. Plenty prefer a less coarse
grass.

Fusspots. I think the next time I need to buy grass seed I'll try
Kikuyu.


Kikuyu isnt a seed grass.


It must make seeds surely.


Nope, it's a runner grass.

What's this then? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151551068630


Fake kikuyu. There are no seed heads on any of my kikuyu.

If only to **** of my neighbours :-)


It'll **** you off too.


I don't mind mowing,


Yes, you are that stupid.


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On 18/04/2017 23:42, newshound wrote:
On 4/18/2017 8:21 AM, Bod wrote:

Agreed. My landscape gardener told me many moons ago
that
grass
likes
being cut, but weeds don't. I just mow regularly and
they
eventually
disappear.

I believe it is an evolution thing. Grass grows from the
bottom,
which
is why they survive grazing herbivores better than
broad-leaf
plants,
which grow from the top.

That doesn't mean grass *likes* being cut.

--
Max Demian

Grass evolved to be cut by grazing animals.
So mowing is normal.

As there is no animals ****ting, it has to be fertilized
instead.

Pigs arse it does. The park next to my place has NEVER been
fertilized
in
50
years.

Neither has my grass and mine isnt even mowed.

Indeed - mainly plants just need water and CO2.

Yep, my trees have never had anything else.

The biggest ones are immense now.

Hydroponics or something only uses water and CO2 I believe.

Nope, they add fertilizer to the water.

Yet your trees are ok.

Sure, but a hydroponics operation normally wants to be
more productive and adding fertilizer improves productivity.

Same with ag operations.

Apparently if a plant has enough nitrogen, adding fertiliser does
nothing
at all.

Its much more complicated than that and
it isnt just nitrogen in the fertiliser anyway.

Well I added fertiliser (double the recommended dose) to some house
plants
that weren't doing very well (spider plants a cat sat on and a cactus
that
was shrivelling up) and they didn't grow faster or become healthier.

Because the problem wasn't a lack of fertiliser,
the problem was that the cat sat on it.


But the solution is fast growth.


Not possible once the cat has sat on it.


Spider plants are pretty resilient, getting squashed doesn't kill it.


Obviously didn't do it much good.

I obviously moved it to a windowledge where the cat doesn't go.


And it still didn't do very well.

I've bought parts from hydroponics suppliers for other uses.

Yeah, growing the MJ crop.

Actually a cooling system for bitcoin machines.

Corse you would say that...

MJ doesn't need such things.

It does grow well with hydroponics.

What's the advantage of hydroponics over soil?

Easier to completely automate. Plants don't actually
need soil, just something to put the roots into so they
don't fall over etc. We used rockwool or scoria or even
nothing at all with some plants like tomatoes that are
staked for other reasons.


Why does soil stop automation?


It doesn't, but it's a lot easier to automate with hydroponics.


Why?


With soil you have to sterilise it periodically, kill the nematodes etc.

With hydroponics, flush the water down the drain and start with new water.

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