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On 26/03/2017 20:27, jim wrote:
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 18:08:58 +0000, jim wrote:

F news@nowhere Wrote in message:
It looks as though I'm going to have to thread a thin, so very
flexible,
cable into the ceiling void from below and then out again a couple of
metres further across. I've used a straightened coat hanger in similar
circumstances before but the current stock won't straighten to the
required distance.

I can't get at it from above, but at least the joists run in the right
direction for me.

So what's the best way to do it?


Two coat hangers joined together?


Same objection as the measuring tape...although I have used that. Better
to use something insulated


Two coathangers joined together & insulated?!

Or just turn the power off for the 5minutes it'll take!

FFS talk about complex solutions looking for problems.


Stop making things easy.

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On Sunday, 26 March 2017 08:54:14 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
I always keep some fairly thick galvanised wire around for such things. Not
used it for its real use ie fixing garden fences for hears,


I know you meant years - y is adjacent to h, but so is b for bears.

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On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 18:08:58 +0000, jim wrote:

F news@nowhere Wrote in message:
It looks as though I'm going to have to thread a thin, so very
flexible,
cable into the ceiling void from below and then out again a couple of
metres further across. I've used a straightened coat hanger in similar
circumstances before but the current stock won't straighten to the
required distance.

I can't get at it from above, but at least the joists run in the right
direction for me.

So what's the best way to do it?


Two coat hangers joined together?


Same objection as the measuring tape...although I have used that. Better
to use something insulated


Two coathangers joined together & insulated?!

Or just turn the power off for the 5minutes it'll take!

FFS talk about complex solutions looking for problems.

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On 26/03/2017 20:27, jim wrote:
Bob Eager Wrote in message:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 18:08:58 +0000, jim wrote:

F news@nowhere Wrote in message:
It looks as though I'm going to have to thread a thin, so very
flexible,
cable into the ceiling void from below and then out again a couple of
metres further across. I've used a straightened coat hanger in similar
circumstances before but the current stock won't straighten to the
required distance.

I can't get at it from above, but at least the joists run in the right
direction for me.

So what's the best way to do it?


Two coat hangers joined together?

Same objection as the measuring tape...although I have used that. Better
to use something insulated


Two coathangers joined together & insulated?!

Or just turn the power off for the 5minutes it'll take!

FFS talk about complex solutions looking for problems.


Stop making things easy.


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En el artículo , Max
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Tie a thread to a mouse and coax it across to the other hole with
cheese. Tie a string to the thread, pull it through and then the cable.


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On 25/03/2017 12:03, F wrote:
It looks as though I'm going to have to thread a thin, so very flexible,
cable into the ceiling void from below and then out again a couple of
metres further across. I've used a straightened coat hanger in similar
circumstances before but the current stock won't straighten to the
required distance.

I can't get at it from above, but at least the joists run in the right
direction for me.

So what's the best way to do it?



One trick I've used.

Get a metal, retracting, tape measure and make a big loop. Make a hole,
about 1/2 inch, at one end of the run and push loop into void. Allow it
to 'unfold'. At the other end of the run, make another hole and push a
curtain wire (the stuff like a spring covered in plastic used to hang
net curtains) with a string taped to the end you push in.

Feed in the curtain wire, get someone to hold the loop, they will
generally feel it touch the curtain wire. Feed in some more then
withdraw the tape measure.

It may take a few goes but you should be able to see and 'hook' the string.

Obviously, remove tape, curtain wire, and use string to pull you wire
through.

Also works for cavity ways, if you drop a string with a small weight.

I can't claim to have invented the idea, someone I used to work with
mentioned it.



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On 25/03/2017 13:54, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 25/03/17 12:03, F wrote:
It looks as though I'm going to have to thread a thin, so very flexible,
cable into the ceiling void from below and then out again a couple of
metres further across. I've used a straightened coat hanger in similar
circumstances before but the current stock won't straighten to the
required distance.

I can't get at it from above, but at least the joists run in the right
direction for me.

So what's the best way to do it?


Tie a small piece of iron, such as a 1" nail (insulated with tape if
necessary), to a thin, strong thread. Push through hole into ceiling
space and pull along with a neodymium magnet just under the ceiling.
Once the nail appears, pull through and tie the cable to the thread, and
pull that through.


Thanks, and it worked a treat!

2.5" oval nail taped to some nylon thread and eased along the 2M using a
large old aquarium cleaning magnet. It took longer to tape the nail to
the thread than it did to drag the it.

I've cut the thread at three times the distance between the holes so I
can leave it in and reuse it backwards and forwards should the need
arise later.

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