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Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on
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On 3/21/2017 3:14 PM, critcher wrote:
Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. It is difficult to guess age from a posting, but from the info given out, there seems to be an abundance of wisdom here. And a fair number of cranky attitudes too. Usenet does not have the traffic it once did; my suspicion is that the younger element congregate to what might be perceived as the slightly more social environment of the web based bulletin boards, plus of course the social media. |
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On 21/03/17 15:18, newshound wrote:
On 3/21/2017 3:14 PM, critcher wrote: Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. It is difficult to guess age from a posting, but from the info given out, there seems to be an abundance of wisdom here. And a fair number of cranky attitudes too. Usenet does not have the traffic it once did; my suspicion is that the younger element congregate to what might be perceived as the slightly more social environment of the web based bulletin boards, plus of course the social media. Most of the young use smartphones. Is there a usable Usenet app for iPhones? AFAIAA the only decent app for android which allows you to post as well as read is Piaohong. And that is not quite free, unlike most of the clients for Windows and Linux. -- Jeff |
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On 21/03/2017 15:42, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/03/17 15:18, newshound wrote: On 3/21/2017 3:14 PM, critcher wrote: Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. It is difficult to guess age from a posting, but from the info given out, there seems to be an abundance of wisdom here. And a fair number of cranky attitudes too. The young are the ones with the cranky attitudes. The reason being that they're brainwashed. I'm 68. Is anyone here younger than me? Bill |
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critcher brought next idea :
Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. It is difficult to guess age from a posting, but from the info given out, there seems to be an abundance of wisdom here. Most of the younger element seem to use social media, to keep everyone posted as to what they are having for breakfast, when they visit the loo and etc.. Not my thing at all, it is all so very shallow and pointless to the extreme. I like online forums, especially the more serious minded ones and Usenet. There is not that much to choose between these two, other than pictures and diagrams are usually a part of the online forums, which can be essential sometimes. |
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On 21/03/2017 15:42, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/03/17 15:18, newshound wrote: On 3/21/2017 3:14 PM, critcher wrote: Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. It is difficult to guess age from a posting, but from the info given out, there seems to be an abundance of wisdom here. And a fair number of cranky attitudes too. Usenet does not have the traffic it once did; my suspicion is that the younger element congregate to what might be perceived as the slightly more social environment of the web based bulletin boards, plus of course the social media. Most of the young use smartphones. Is there a usable Usenet app for iPhones? AFAIAA the only decent app for android which allows you to post as well as read is Piaohong Groundhog isn't too bad, and free. -- Max Demian |
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critcher wrote: Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. It is difficult to guess age from a posting, but from the info given out, there seems to be an abundance of wisdom here. Of course. Only those who were fairly early adopters of things computer are still interested in a text only medium. Most want pictures and pretty colours. But it's not only Usenet. Noticed that some email groups I've belonged to who have started a parallel web based forum very soon lose traffic to the email side, and usually close. -- *How much deeper would the oceans be without sponges? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 21/03/2017 15:54, Bill Wright wrote:
On 21/03/2017 15:42, Jeff Layman wrote: On 21/03/17 15:18, newshound wrote: On 3/21/2017 3:14 PM, critcher wrote: Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. It is difficult to guess age from a posting, but from the info given out, there seems to be an abundance of wisdom here. And a fair number of cranky attitudes too. The young are the ones with the cranky attitudes. The reason being that they're brainwashed. I'm 68. Is anyone here younger than me? Bill Yes, cranky. |
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On 21/03/2017 15:54, Bill Wright wrote:
The young are the ones with the cranky attitudes. The reason being that they're brainwashed. I'm 68. Is anyone here younger than me? Almost everyone I shouldn't wonder. Although there used to be an "older lady" here that used to gripe about her grumpy/useless husband and his DIY.... She was called Florence or Ethel, or Mildred or some such other. Last heard of chopping down a cherry tree and chasing her chickens around the yard IIRC... |
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:14:04 +0000, critcher wrote:
Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. It is difficult to guess age from a posting, but from the info given out, there seems to be an abundance of wisdom here. I'm 70 on Article 50 day - I'd rather be 50 on Article 70 day! -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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www.GymRatZ.co.uk submitted this idea :
Although there used to be an "older lady" here that used to gripe about her grumpy/useless husband and his DIY.... She was called Florence or Ethel, or Mildred or some such other. Last heard of chopping down a cherry tree and chasing her chickens around the yard IIRC... ...and domiciled in north Leeds :-) |
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On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 4:55:09 PM UTC, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
www.GymRatZ.co.uk submitted this idea : Although there used to be an "older lady" here that used to gripe about her grumpy/useless husband and his DIY.... She was called Florence or Ethel, or Mildred or some such other. Last heard of chopping down a cherry tree and chasing her chickens around the yard IIRC... ..and domiciled in north Leeds :-) Mary Fisher? |
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:54:44 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:
I'm 68. Is anyone here younger than me? Oh yes, by over a decade (just)... -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:30:40 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Noticed that some email groups I've belonged to who have started a parallel web based forum very soon lose traffic to the email side, and usually close. Yep, a direct push feed like an email list or usenet just arrives, new threads, old threads. Web forums have to have a concious decision to visit, just in case there is something new. Then you have to login, and navigate the relatively slow and clunky interface(*). It says something that these systems have to mail you when something happens in a subscribed thread ... Why not just mail the message and allow email responses, far slicker, far quicker. (*) I once compared how much formating and "eye candy" came down with 10 1 kB of messages on a fairly plain web forum. Well over 100 kB... -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 21/03/2017 16:46, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:
On 21/03/2017 15:54, Bill Wright wrote: The young are the ones with the cranky attitudes. The reason being that they're brainwashed. I'm 68. Is anyone here younger than me? Almost everyone I shouldn't wonder. Although there used to be an "older lady" here that used to gripe about her grumpy/useless husband and his DIY.... She was called Florence or Ethel, or Mildred or some such other. Last heard of chopping down a cherry tree and chasing her chickens around the yard IIRC... You mean Mary Fisher, aka "oldhenwife" - who always referred to her other half as "spouse". Haven't seen her lately. Bill is certainly not the oldest at 68 - I can give him 6 years - and I'm sure there are lots older than me. As others have said, usenet probably doesn't appeal to the younger generation. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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critcher wrote:
Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. 52 here. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:54:44 +0000, Bill Wright wrote: I'm 68. Is anyone here younger than me? Oh yes, by over a decade (just)... 65 and not liking it. |
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Jeff Layman wrote:
On 21/03/17 15:18, newshound wrote: On 3/21/2017 3:14 PM, critcher wrote: Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. It is difficult to guess age from a posting, but from the info given out, there seems to be an abundance of wisdom here. 60 in my case. And a fair number of cranky attitudes too. Usenet does not have the traffic it once did; my suspicion is that the younger element congregate to what might be perceived as the slightly more social environment of the web based bulletin boards, plus of course the social media. Most of the young use smartphones. Is there a usable Usenet app for iPhones? AFAIAA the only decent app for android which allows you to post as well as read is Piaohong. And that is not quite free, unlike most of the clients for Windows and Linux. NewsTap is the only one I've found for iPhone/iPad. Works okay if not brilliantly. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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On 21/03/17 17:13, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 4:55:09 PM UTC, Harry Bloomfield wrote: www.GymRatZ.co.uk submitted this idea : Although there used to be an "older lady" here that used to gripe about her grumpy/useless husband and his DIY.... She was called Florence or Ethel, or Mildred or some such other. Last heard of chopping down a cherry tree and chasing her chickens around the yard IIRC... ..and domiciled in north Leeds :-) Mary Fisher? Pamela? -- New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in someone else's pocket. |
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Roger Mills explained :
You mean Mary Fisher, aka "oldhenwife" - who always referred to her other half as "spouse". Haven't seen her lately. Bill is certainly not the oldest at 68 - I can give him 6 years - and I'm sure there are lots older than me. As others have said, usenet probably doesn't appeal to the younger generation. Probably because it relies almost entirely on the written word. |
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"Jeff Layman" wrote in message news On 21/03/17 15:18, newshound wrote: On 3/21/2017 3:14 PM, critcher wrote: Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. It is difficult to guess age from a posting, but from the info given out, there seems to be an abundance of wisdom here. And a fair number of cranky attitudes too. Usenet does not have the traffic it once did; my suspicion is that the younger element congregate to what might be perceived as the slightly more social environment of the web based bulletin boards, plus of course the social media. Most of the young use smartphones. A hell of a lot of them use their smartphones to do social media etc. Is there a usable Usenet app for iPhones? Yep, Newstap, both a free version and the full one for not all that much. AFAIAA the only decent app for android which allows you to post as well as read is Piaohong. And that is not quite free, unlike most of the clients for Windows and Linux. |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message news On 21/03/2017 15:42, Jeff Layman wrote: On 21/03/17 15:18, newshound wrote: On 3/21/2017 3:14 PM, critcher wrote: Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. It is difficult to guess age from a posting, but from the info given out, there seems to be an abundance of wisdom here. And a fair number of cranky attitudes too. The young are the ones with the cranky attitudes. The reason being that they're brainwashed. I'm 68. Is anyone here younger than me? Yeah, Adam certainly is. |
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Andy Burns wrote:
critcher wrote: Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. 52 here. Same as me, except I'm here, not there. |
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On 21/03/17 17:59, Roger Mills wrote:
On 21/03/2017 16:46, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote: On 21/03/2017 15:54, Bill Wright wrote: The young are the ones with the cranky attitudes. The reason being that they're brainwashed. I'm 68. Is anyone here younger than me? Almost everyone I shouldn't wonder. Although there used to be an "older lady" here that used to gripe about her grumpy/useless husband and his DIY.... She was called Florence or Ethel, or Mildred or some such other. Last heard of chopping down a cherry tree and chasing her chickens around the yard IIRC... You mean Mary Fisher, aka "oldhenwife" - who always referred to her other half as "spouse". Haven't seen her lately. Bill is certainly not the oldest at 68 - I can give him 6 years - and I'm sure there are lots older than me. As others have said, usenet probably doesn't appeal to the younger generation. Am I relatively young here, then, at 47? |
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On 21/03/17 20:03, Chris Bartram wrote:
Am I relatively young here, then, at 47? 43 here. I feel like a child. |
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On 21/03/17 15:54, Bill Wright wrote:
On 21/03/2017 15:42, Jeff Layman wrote: On 21/03/17 15:18, newshound wrote: On 3/21/2017 3:14 PM, critcher wrote: Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. It is difficult to guess age from a posting, but from the info given out, there seems to be an abundance of wisdom here. And a fair number of cranky attitudes too. The young are the ones with the cranky attitudes. The reason being that they're brainwashed. I'm 68. Is anyone here younger than me? 62½ -- djc (–€Ì¿Ä¹Ì¯–€Ì¿ Ì¿) No low-hanging fruit, just a lot of small berries up a tall tree. |
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R D S wrote:
On 21/03/17 20:03, Chris Bartram wrote: Am I relatively young here, then, at 47? 43 here. I feel like a child. 43? - have you just got off your skateboard? :-p |
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
(*) I once compared how much formating and "eye candy" came down with 10 1 kB of messages on a fairly plain web forum. Well over 100 kB... Much of the bulk is not only advertising, and analyic data for the forum owner, but huge complex tracking operations by google and others to link up your various online activities and log them. The ostensible, and perhaps main, reason is to refine targeted advertising, but it does make any web activity tedious if one has a slow connection. -- Roger Hayter |
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:13:22 +0000, DJC wrote:
On 21/03/17 15:54, Bill Wright wrote: On 21/03/2017 15:42, Jeff Layman wrote: On 21/03/17 15:18, newshound wrote: On 3/21/2017 3:14 PM, critcher wrote: Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. It is difficult to guess age from a posting, but from the info given out, there seems to be an abundance of wisdom here. And a fair number of cranky attitudes too. The young are the ones with the cranky attitudes. The reason being that they're brainwashed. I'm 68. Is anyone here younger than me? 62½ 66 -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:14:16 UTC, critcher wrote:
Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. It is difficult to guess age from a posting, but from the info given out, there seems to be an abundance of wisdom here. I'm admitting to 32 but if the beard gets any greyer won't be able to carry that off on my Tinder profile for much longer. Owain |
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writes Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. The big 65 later this year. Oh well, at least I'll get the State pension. -- Graeme |
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On 21/03/2017 17:59, Roger Mills wrote:
On 21/03/2017 16:46, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote: On 21/03/2017 15:54, Bill Wright wrote: The young are the ones with the cranky attitudes. The reason being that they're brainwashed. I'm 68. Is anyone here younger than me? Almost everyone I shouldn't wonder. Although there used to be an "older lady" here that used to gripe about her grumpy/useless husband and his DIY.... She was called Florence or Ethel, or Mildred or some such other. Last heard of chopping down a cherry tree and chasing her chickens around the yard IIRC... You mean Mary Fisher, aka "oldhenwife" - who always referred to her other half as "spouse". Haven't seen her lately. Bill is certainly not the oldest at 68 - I can give him 6 years - and I'm sure there are lots older than me. As others have said, usenet probably doesn't appeal to the younger generation. I have been posting here since I was in my 30's! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 21/03/2017 20:37, Roger Hayter wrote:
Dave Liquorice wrote: (*) I once compared how much formating and "eye candy" came down with 10 1 kB of messages on a fairly plain web forum. Well over 100 kB... Much of the bulk is not only advertising, and analyic data for the forum owner, but huge complex tracking operations by google and others to link up your various online activities and log them. The ostensible, and perhaps main, reason is to refine targeted advertising, but it does make any web activity tedious if one has a slow connection. Running "NoScript" can reduce that quite a bit. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 21/03/17 21:57, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/03/2017 17:59, Roger Mills wrote: On 21/03/2017 16:46, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote: On 21/03/2017 15:54, Bill Wright wrote: The young are the ones with the cranky attitudes. The reason being that they're brainwashed. I'm 68. Is anyone here younger than me? Almost everyone I shouldn't wonder. Although there used to be an "older lady" here that used to gripe about her grumpy/useless husband and his DIY.... She was called Florence or Ethel, or Mildred or some such other. Last heard of chopping down a cherry tree and chasing her chickens around the yard IIRC... You mean Mary Fisher, aka "oldhenwife" - who always referred to her other half as "spouse". Haven't seen her lately. Bill is certainly not the oldest at 68 - I can give him 6 years - and I'm sure there are lots older than me. As others have said, usenet probably doesn't appeal to the younger generation. I have been posting here since I was in my 30's! Mm. I must have been around 50 when I ended up here, but my usenet presence in other nyms predates the UK internet. I think my first post was 1985 or thereabouts Golly. 32 years of Usenet... -- "I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently. This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and all women" |
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On 21/03/2017 22:21, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 21/03/17 21:57, John Rumm wrote: On 21/03/2017 17:59, Roger Mills wrote: On 21/03/2017 16:46, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote: On 21/03/2017 15:54, Bill Wright wrote: The young are the ones with the cranky attitudes. The reason being that they're brainwashed. I'm 68. Is anyone here younger than me? Almost everyone I shouldn't wonder. Although there used to be an "older lady" here that used to gripe about her grumpy/useless husband and his DIY.... She was called Florence or Ethel, or Mildred or some such other. Last heard of chopping down a cherry tree and chasing her chickens around the yard IIRC... You mean Mary Fisher, aka "oldhenwife" - who always referred to her other half as "spouse". Haven't seen her lately. Bill is certainly not the oldest at 68 - I can give him 6 years - and I'm sure there are lots older than me. As others have said, usenet probably doesn't appeal to the younger generation. I have been posting here since I was in my 30's! Mm. I must have been around 50 when I ended up here, but my usenet presence in other nyms predates the UK internet. I think my first post was 1985 or thereabouts Golly. 32 years of Usenet... I am obviously a relative newcomer to usenet as my first posts were around the mid to late 90s. But I am also a relative oldie, 80 in about 6 months time. -- Old Codger e-mail use reply to field What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003] |
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:57:40 +0000, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/03/2017 17:59, Roger Mills wrote: On 21/03/2017 16:46, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote: On 21/03/2017 15:54, Bill Wright wrote: The young are the ones with the cranky attitudes. The reason being that they're brainwashed. I'm 68. Is anyone here younger than me? Almost everyone I shouldn't wonder. Although there used to be an "older lady" here that used to gripe about her grumpy/useless husband and his DIY.... She was called Florence or Ethel, or Mildred or some such other. Last heard of chopping down a cherry tree and chasing her chickens around the yard IIRC... You mean Mary Fisher, aka "oldhenwife" - who always referred to her other half as "spouse". Haven't seen her lately. Bill is certainly not the oldest at 68 - I can give him 6 years - and I'm sure there are lots older than me. As others have said, usenet probably doesn't appeal to the younger generation. I have been posting here since I was in my 30's! I've been on Usenet since I was 31 (in 1982). -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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"PeterC" wrote in message ... On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:14:04 +0000, critcher wrote: Would I be correct in assuming that most of the posters and readers on this ng are of a mature age. i.e. 55 - 80 yrs. It is difficult to guess age from a posting, but from the info given out, there seems to be an abundance of wisdom here. I'm 70 on Article 50 day - I'd rather be 50 on Article 70 day! I'm 69 on the day after. You're only as old as the woman you feel. |
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On 21/03/2017 22:43, Bob Eager wrote:
On Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:57:40 +0000, John Rumm wrote: On 21/03/2017 17:59, Roger Mills wrote: On 21/03/2017 16:46, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote: On 21/03/2017 15:54, Bill Wright wrote: The young are the ones with the cranky attitudes. The reason being that they're brainwashed. I'm 68. Is anyone here younger than me? Almost everyone I shouldn't wonder. Although there used to be an "older lady" here that used to gripe about her grumpy/useless husband and his DIY.... She was called Florence or Ethel, or Mildred or some such other. Last heard of chopping down a cherry tree and chasing her chickens around the yard IIRC... You mean Mary Fisher, aka "oldhenwife" - who always referred to her other half as "spouse". Haven't seen her lately. Bill is certainly not the oldest at 68 - I can give him 6 years - and I'm sure there are lots older than me. As others have said, usenet probably doesn't appeal to the younger generation. I have been posting here since I was in my 30's! I've been on Usenet since I was 31 (in 1982). I was still at school ;-) (I think my first usenet posts must have been mid 90's) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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