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On 26/10/2016 23:57, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 23:45:11 +0100, David Lang
wrote:

On 26/10/2016 21:52, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 21:25:49 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

David Lang wrote:
On 26/10/2016 17:22, Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 October 2016 09:29:44 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
Its
actually because they are much more reliable when moulded.

I have just fitted 4 LED security lamps and needed to feed 2
core
through a brick wall - I have 20 odd old wire up plugs though
so
had plenty to hand.

I do it the other way, cut the moulded socket off an extension
lead, feed the cut end thru the hole in the wall and then wire
that
into the light or whatever. Easier with some lights than
others.

These lights only come with about 1ft of three way, so you have
to
drill a foot long hole in the exterior bricks and feed two core
in
from inside, fit a plug and find the nearest indoor socket.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvtPqEOXYAEybSS.jpg

So you now have an exposed chocky block outside in the wet and a
metal
light with no earth?

You are a special kind of stupid.

He is a cyclist. They really are a very special kind of stupid.

Or not a wimp like you two, scared of a bit of electricity. All
that
will happen in the rain is a bit of electric will leak from live
to
neutral and cost him pennies. What do you think he's going to do,
reach
up and grab the block in the rain?

Trust me, he is that stupid.

Bull****.

However, not the point.

So your point is?

That Mason is an idiot and you seem to be supporting him.

The photos did not show any idiocy.

Bull****. Its stupid to have a choc block there. He should have
replaced the cord entirely so there is no join and if that isnt
practical, the choc block should be inside the metal case of
the light. Better to have a soldered joint and heatshrink tho,
then no chance of it coming loose over time.

It's quick to do and it works, I have no problem with it.


Because you are a terminal ****wit.

Its just as quick to replace the entire cord and not have a joiner.


Too much hassle to take the old cord out when it goes through a wall.


There is no old cord going thru the wall, it was a new cord for that light.

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"pamela" wrote in message
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On 21:52 26 Oct 2016, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 21:25:49 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

David Lang wrote:
On 26/10/2016 17:22, Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 October 2016 09:29:44 UTC+1, Rod Speed
wrote: Its actually because they are much more reliable when
moulded.

I have just fitted 4 LED security lamps and needed to feed
2 core through a brick wall - I have 20 odd old wire up
plugs though so had plenty to hand.

I do it the other way, cut the moulded socket off an
extension lead, feed the cut end thru the hole in the wall
and then wire that into the light or whatever. Easier with
some lights than others.

These lights only come with about 1ft of three way, so you
have to drill a foot long hole in the exterior bricks and
feed two core in from inside, fit a plug and find the nearest
indoor socket.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvtPqEOXYAEybSS.jpg

So you now have an exposed chocky block outside in the wet and
a metal light with no earth?

You are a special kind of stupid.

He is a cyclist. They really are a very special kind of stupid.

Or not a wimp like you two, scared of a bit of electricity.

All that will happen in the rain is a bit of electric will leak
from live to neutral and cost him pennies.

What if it's more than a little bit of leakage (maybe from
something like bird droppings)?

The most that might do is trip the RCD.

RCDs are for pussies, I have fuses.

It might blow a fuse if you are unlucky enough to
get some bird **** that is very sloppy right on the
areas where there is some metal down in the block.

Unlikely tho.

Which is why I prefer fuses. Less likely to trip.

It wouldn't trip due to bird **** regardless of which is used.

And very unlikely to end up with bird **** on it where it is either.

If the bird**** conducted to some rain on the wall and to the ground, an
ELCB might trip.

Nope, because the metal bits on the choc block wouldn't be in contact
with
the bird ****.


You wrote "unlucky enough to
get some bird **** that is very sloppy right on the
areas where there is some metal down in the block"


If it is, it wont bridge between the choc block and the wall.


Depends what the bird has eaten.


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news On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 09:09:42 +0100, David Lang
wrote:

On 26/10/2016 23:57, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 23:45:11 +0100, David Lang
wrote:

On 26/10/2016 21:52, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 21:25:49 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

David Lang wrote:
On 26/10/2016 17:22, Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 October 2016 09:29:44 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
Its
actually because they are much more reliable when moulded.

I have just fitted 4 LED security lamps and needed to feed 2
core
through a brick wall - I have 20 odd old wire up plugs though
so
had plenty to hand.

I do it the other way, cut the moulded socket off an extension
lead, feed the cut end thru the hole in the wall and then wire
that
into the light or whatever. Easier with some lights than
others.

These lights only come with about 1ft of three way, so you have
to
drill a foot long hole in the exterior bricks and feed two core
in
from inside, fit a plug and find the nearest indoor socket.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvtPqEOXYAEybSS.jpg

So you now have an exposed chocky block outside in the wet and a
metal
light with no earth?

You are a special kind of stupid.

He is a cyclist. They really are a very special kind of stupid.

Or not a wimp like you two, scared of a bit of electricity. All
that
will happen in the rain is a bit of electric will leak from live
to
neutral and cost him pennies. What do you think he's going to do,
reach
up and grab the block in the rain?

Trust me, he is that stupid.

Bull****.

However, not the point.

So your point is?

That Mason is an idiot and you seem to be supporting him.

The photos did not show any idiocy.

Bull****. Its stupid to have a choc block there. He should have
replaced the cord entirely so there is no join and if that isnt
practical, the choc block should be inside the metal case of
the light. Better to have a soldered joint and heatshrink tho,
then no chance of it coming loose over time.

It's quick to do and it works, I have no problem with it.

Because you are a terminal ****wit.

Its just as quick to replace the entire cord and not have a joiner.


Too much hassle to take the old cord out when it goes through a wall.


There is no old cord going thru the wall, it was a new cord for that light.


Then why did he need to extend it?

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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 21:28:00 +0100, Simon Mason
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On Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:17:57 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:


They like to show their bell ends in their lycra shorts.

This girl at work used to ask me "How is it hanging, Simon?" I used to
say "to the left and then to the right".


I've always said "to the left" (a quote from Bill Cosby). So when cycling
it's moving constantly? Does that not cause swelling? :-)


Not when its as small as yours and his is.


Mine is apparently above the national average.

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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 22:43:19 +0100, Rod Speed
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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 19:53:49 +0100, Rod Speed

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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 03:37:22 +0100, Rod Speed

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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 00:01:48 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:



"pamela" wrote in message
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On 21:52 26 Oct 2016, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 21:25:49 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

David Lang wrote:
On 26/10/2016 17:22, Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 October 2016 09:29:44 UTC+1, Rod Speed
wrote: Its actually because they are much more reliable when
moulded.

I have just fitted 4 LED security lamps and needed to feed
2 core through a brick wall - I have 20 odd old wire up
plugs though so had plenty to hand.

I do it the other way, cut the moulded socket off an
extension lead, feed the cut end thru the hole in the wall
and then wire that into the light or whatever. Easier with
some lights than others.

These lights only come with about 1ft of three way, so you
have to drill a foot long hole in the exterior bricks and
feed two core in from inside, fit a plug and find the
nearest
indoor socket.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvtPqEOXYAEybSS.jpg

So you now have an exposed chocky block outside in the wet
and
a metal light with no earth?

You are a special kind of stupid.

He is a cyclist. They really are a very special kind of
stupid.

Or not a wimp like you two, scared of a bit of electricity.

All that will happen in the rain is a bit of electric will leak
from live to neutral and cost him pennies.

What if it's more than a little bit of leakage (maybe from
something like bird droppings)?

The most that might do is trip the RCD.

RCDs are for pussies, I have fuses.

It might blow a fuse if you are unlucky enough to
get some bird **** that is very sloppy right on the
areas where there is some metal down in the block.

Unlikely tho.

Which is why I prefer fuses. Less likely to trip.

It wouldn't trip due to bird **** regardless of which is used.

And very unlikely to end up with bird **** on it where it is either.

If the bird**** conducted to some rain on the wall and to the ground,
an
ELCB might trip.

Nope, because the metal bits on the choc block wouldn't be in contact
with
the bird ****.

You wrote "unlucky enough to
get some bird **** that is very sloppy right on the
areas where there is some metal down in the block"


If it is, it wont bridge between the choc block and the wall.


Depends what the bird has eaten.


Nope, not when its very sloppy **** it doesn't.



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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 23:14:42 +0100, Rod Speed
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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 22:44:29 +0100, Rod Speed
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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 19:57:33 +0100, Rod Speed

wrote:



"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 09:09:42 +0100, David Lang
wrote:

On 26/10/2016 23:57, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 23:45:11 +0100, David Lang
wrote:

On 26/10/2016 21:52, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 21:25:49 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

David Lang wrote:
On 26/10/2016 17:22, Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 October 2016 09:29:44 UTC+1, Rod Speed
wrote:
Its
actually because they are much more reliable when moulded.

I have just fitted 4 LED security lamps and needed to feed
2
core
through a brick wall - I have 20 odd old wire up plugs
though
so
had plenty to hand.

I do it the other way, cut the moulded socket off an
extension
lead, feed the cut end thru the hole in the wall and then
wire
that
into the light or whatever. Easier with some lights than
others.

These lights only come with about 1ft of three way, so you
have
to
drill a foot long hole in the exterior bricks and feed two
core
in
from inside, fit a plug and find the nearest indoor socket.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvtPqEOXYAEybSS.jpg

So you now have an exposed chocky block outside in the wet and
a
metal
light with no earth?

You are a special kind of stupid.

He is a cyclist. They really are a very special kind of stupid.

Or not a wimp like you two, scared of a bit of electricity. All
that
will happen in the rain is a bit of electric will leak from live
to
neutral and cost him pennies. What do you think he's going to
do,
reach
up and grab the block in the rain?

Trust me, he is that stupid.

Bull****.

However, not the point.

So your point is?

That Mason is an idiot and you seem to be supporting him.

The photos did not show any idiocy.

Bull****. Its stupid to have a choc block there. He should have
replaced the cord entirely so there is no join and if that isnt
practical, the choc block should be inside the metal case of
the light. Better to have a soldered joint and heatshrink tho,
then no chance of it coming loose over time.

It's quick to do and it works, I have no problem with it.

Because you are a terminal ****wit.

Its just as quick to replace the entire cord and not have a joiner.

Too much hassle to take the old cord out when it goes through a wall.


There is no old cord going thru the wall, it was a new cord for that
light.


Then why did he need to extend it?


It was much too short to get to where he needed it to go and had moulded
plug on it which even you would have noticed wouldn't have gone thru that
small hole in the mortar.

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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 21:28:00 +0100, Simon Mason
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On Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:17:57 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:


They like to show their bell ends in their lycra shorts.

This girl at work used to ask me "How is it hanging, Simon?" I used to
say "to the left and then to the right".

I've always said "to the left" (a quote from Bill Cosby). So when
cycling
it's moving constantly? Does that not cause swelling? :-)


Not when its as small as yours and his is.


Mine is apparently above the national average.


Obvious lie. We have the reports on social media from those who have
seen you streaking and who have posted the photos for all to laugh at.

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In article , news0006
@eager.cx says...

On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:49:32 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Harry Bloomfield writes:
DerbyBorn formulated the question :

Just as well items are now supplied with a fitted plug. Can you
imagine the "Facebook Generation" trying to use wire strippers and
screwdrivers.

In the days when plugs were brown, it was nice to buy a nice new MK
White plug (extra cost) to fit on a new appliance.

Just a matter of what looks modern and fashionable. Black seems the
fashionable colour at the moment.

Videos, stereos etc. were silver, then black, now silver seems to be
coming back as the 'in' colour.


So my 1980's Sharp HiFi is coming back into fashion? ;-)


But what about Quad beige? ;-)


Nothing wrong with beige. And orange.

Says my 33/303.


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Audiolab, Quad, Mission, Wharfedale and Castle Acoustics
are all now labels owned by a firm based in Shenzhen,
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In article , news0006
@eager.cx says...

On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:49:32 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Harry Bloomfield writes:
DerbyBorn formulated the question :

Just as well items are now supplied with a fitted plug. Can you
imagine the "Facebook Generation" trying to use wire strippers and
screwdrivers.

In the days when plugs were brown, it was nice to buy a nice new MK
White plug (extra cost) to fit on a new appliance.

Just a matter of what looks modern and fashionable. Black seems the
fashionable colour at the moment.

Videos, stereos etc. were silver, then black, now silver seems to be
coming back as the 'in' colour.

So my 1980's Sharp HiFi is coming back into fashion? ;-)

But what about Quad beige? ;-)


Nothing wrong with beige. And orange.

Says my 33/303.


nostalgic sigh

Audiolab, Quad, Mission, Wharfedale and Castle Acoustics
are all now labels owned by a firm based in Shenzhen,
China.


Yes and my Aiwa -
http://supreme2.ru/images/aiwa-z-d9300m2.jpg
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg1NzY=/z/TFUAAOSwI-BWPQZN/$_86.JPG
which I paid ~£1k for maybe ~30 years back were bought out by Sony.
Still sounds pretty good though.
Deffo needs a few caps changing.



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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 09:09:42 +0100, David Lang
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On 26/10/2016 23:57, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 23:45:11 +0100, David Lang
wrote:

On 26/10/2016 21:52, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 21:25:49 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

David Lang wrote:
On 26/10/2016 17:22, Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 October 2016 09:29:44 UTC+1, Rod Speed
wrote:
Its
actually because they are much more reliable when moulded.

I have just fitted 4 LED security lamps and needed to feed
2
core
through a brick wall - I have 20 odd old wire up plugs
though
so
had plenty to hand.

I do it the other way, cut the moulded socket off an
extension
lead, feed the cut end thru the hole in the wall and then
wire
that
into the light or whatever. Easier with some lights than
others.

These lights only come with about 1ft of three way, so you
have
to
drill a foot long hole in the exterior bricks and feed two
core
in
from inside, fit a plug and find the nearest indoor socket.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvtPqEOXYAEybSS.jpg

So you now have an exposed chocky block outside in the wet and
a
metal
light with no earth?

You are a special kind of stupid.

He is a cyclist. They really are a very special kind of stupid.

Or not a wimp like you two, scared of a bit of electricity. All
that
will happen in the rain is a bit of electric will leak from live
to
neutral and cost him pennies. What do you think he's going to
do,
reach
up and grab the block in the rain?

Trust me, he is that stupid.

Bull****.

However, not the point.

So your point is?

That Mason is an idiot and you seem to be supporting him.

The photos did not show any idiocy.

Bull****. Its stupid to have a choc block there. He should have
replaced the cord entirely so there is no join and if that isnt
practical, the choc block should be inside the metal case of
the light. Better to have a soldered joint and heatshrink tho,
then no chance of it coming loose over time.

It's quick to do and it works, I have no problem with it.

Because you are a terminal ****wit.

Its just as quick to replace the entire cord and not have a joiner.

Too much hassle to take the old cord out when it goes through a wall.

There is no old cord going thru the wall, it was a new cord for that
light.


Then why did he need to extend it?


It was much too short to get to where he needed it to go and had moulded
plug on it which even you would have noticed wouldn't have gone thru that
small hole in the mortar.


See, he thought outside the box and made it work.


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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 00:01:48 +0100, Rod Speed

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"pamela" wrote in message
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On 21:52 26 Oct 2016, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 21:25:49 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

David Lang wrote:
On 26/10/2016 17:22, Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 October 2016 09:29:44 UTC+1, Rod Speed
wrote: Its actually because they are much more reliable when
moulded.

I have just fitted 4 LED security lamps and needed to feed
2 core through a brick wall - I have 20 odd old wire up
plugs though so had plenty to hand.

I do it the other way, cut the moulded socket off an
extension lead, feed the cut end thru the hole in the wall
and then wire that into the light or whatever. Easier with
some lights than others.

These lights only come with about 1ft of three way, so you
have to drill a foot long hole in the exterior bricks and
feed two core in from inside, fit a plug and find the
nearest
indoor socket.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvtPqEOXYAEybSS.jpg

So you now have an exposed chocky block outside in the wet
and
a metal light with no earth?

You are a special kind of stupid.

He is a cyclist. They really are a very special kind of
stupid.

Or not a wimp like you two, scared of a bit of electricity.

All that will happen in the rain is a bit of electric will leak
from live to neutral and cost him pennies.

What if it's more than a little bit of leakage (maybe from
something like bird droppings)?

The most that might do is trip the RCD.

RCDs are for pussies, I have fuses.

It might blow a fuse if you are unlucky enough to
get some bird **** that is very sloppy right on the
areas where there is some metal down in the block.

Unlikely tho.

Which is why I prefer fuses. Less likely to trip.

It wouldn't trip due to bird **** regardless of which is used.

And very unlikely to end up with bird **** on it where it is either.

If the bird**** conducted to some rain on the wall and to the ground,
an
ELCB might trip.

Nope, because the metal bits on the choc block wouldn't be in contact
with
the bird ****.

You wrote "unlucky enough to
get some bird **** that is very sloppy right on the
areas where there is some metal down in the block"

If it is, it wont bridge between the choc block and the wall.


Depends what the bird has eaten.


Nope, not when its very sloppy **** it doesn't.


More sloppy is more likely to travel further.

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On 26/10/2016 23:57, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 23:45:11 +0100, David Lang
wrote:

On 26/10/2016 21:52, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 21:25:49 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

David Lang wrote:
On 26/10/2016 17:22, Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 October 2016 09:29:44 UTC+1, Rod Speed
wrote:
Its
actually because they are much more reliable when moulded.

I have just fitted 4 LED security lamps and needed to
feed
2
core
through a brick wall - I have 20 odd old wire up plugs
though
so
had plenty to hand.

I do it the other way, cut the moulded socket off an
extension
lead, feed the cut end thru the hole in the wall and then
wire
that
into the light or whatever. Easier with some lights than
others.

These lights only come with about 1ft of three way, so you
have
to
drill a foot long hole in the exterior bricks and feed two
core
in
from inside, fit a plug and find the nearest indoor socket.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvtPqEOXYAEybSS.jpg

So you now have an exposed chocky block outside in the wet
and
a
metal
light with no earth?

You are a special kind of stupid.

He is a cyclist. They really are a very special kind of
stupid.

Or not a wimp like you two, scared of a bit of electricity.
All
that
will happen in the rain is a bit of electric will leak from
live
to
neutral and cost him pennies. What do you think he's going to
do,
reach
up and grab the block in the rain?

Trust me, he is that stupid.

Bull****.

However, not the point.

So your point is?

That Mason is an idiot and you seem to be supporting him.

The photos did not show any idiocy.

Bull****. Its stupid to have a choc block there. He should have
replaced the cord entirely so there is no join and if that isnt
practical, the choc block should be inside the metal case of
the light. Better to have a soldered joint and heatshrink tho,
then no chance of it coming loose over time.

It's quick to do and it works, I have no problem with it.

Because you are a terminal ****wit.

Its just as quick to replace the entire cord and not have a joiner.

Too much hassle to take the old cord out when it goes through a wall.

There is no old cord going thru the wall, it was a new cord for that
light.

Then why did he need to extend it?


It was much too short to get to where he needed it to go and had moulded
plug on it which even you would have noticed wouldn't have gone thru that
small hole in the mortar.


See, he thought outside the box and made it work.


He actually bodged it. Thinking outside the box would have
seen him replace the cord it came with with one of the right
length, with a moulded plug on the end of it for reliability,
fed from inside the house and replacing the one it came with.


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On 21:52 26 Oct 2016, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 21:25:49 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
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David Lang wrote:
On 26/10/2016 17:22, Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 October 2016 09:29:44 UTC+1, Rod Speed
wrote: Its actually because they are much more reliable
when
moulded.

I have just fitted 4 LED security lamps and needed to
feed
2 core through a brick wall - I have 20 odd old wire up
plugs though so had plenty to hand.

I do it the other way, cut the moulded socket off an
extension lead, feed the cut end thru the hole in the
wall
and then wire that into the light or whatever. Easier
with
some lights than others.

These lights only come with about 1ft of three way, so you
have to drill a foot long hole in the exterior bricks and
feed two core in from inside, fit a plug and find the
nearest
indoor socket.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvtPqEOXYAEybSS.jpg

So you now have an exposed chocky block outside in the wet
and
a metal light with no earth?

You are a special kind of stupid.

He is a cyclist. They really are a very special kind of
stupid.

Or not a wimp like you two, scared of a bit of electricity.

All that will happen in the rain is a bit of electric will
leak
from live to neutral and cost him pennies.

What if it's more than a little bit of leakage (maybe from
something like bird droppings)?

The most that might do is trip the RCD.

RCDs are for pussies, I have fuses.

It might blow a fuse if you are unlucky enough to
get some bird **** that is very sloppy right on the
areas where there is some metal down in the block.

Unlikely tho.

Which is why I prefer fuses. Less likely to trip.

It wouldn't trip due to bird **** regardless of which is used.

And very unlikely to end up with bird **** on it where it is
either.

If the bird**** conducted to some rain on the wall and to the
ground,
an
ELCB might trip.

Nope, because the metal bits on the choc block wouldn't be in contact
with
the bird ****.

You wrote "unlucky enough to
get some bird **** that is very sloppy right on the
areas where there is some metal down in the block"

If it is, it wont bridge between the choc block and the wall.

Depends what the bird has eaten.


Nope, not when its very sloppy **** it doesn't.


More sloppy is more likely to travel further.


Not not BRIDGE between the block and the wall, stupid.

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Audiolab, Quad, Mission, Wharfedale and Castle Acoustics
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China.


Yes and my Aiwa -
http://supreme2.ru/images/aiwa-z-d9300m2.jpg
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which I paid ~£1k for maybe ~30 years back were bought out by Sony.
Still sounds pretty good though.
Deffo needs a few caps changing.


I think mentioning Aiwa in the same context as manufacturers as those
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On 28/10/2016 00:30, bm wrote:

Audiolab, Quad, Mission, Wharfedale and Castle Acoustics
are all now labels owned by a firm based in Shenzhen,
China.


Yes and my Aiwa -
http://supreme2.ru/images/aiwa-z-d9300m2.jpg
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which I paid ~£1k for maybe ~30 years back were bought out by Sony.
Still sounds pretty good though.
Deffo needs a few caps changing.


I think mentioning Aiwa in the same context as manufacturers as those
like Quad is a bit of a joke.


Hmm, not sure what went wrong with that sentence. "in the same context
as manufacturers such as Quad".



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Audiolab, Quad, Mission, Wharfedale and Castle Acoustics
are all now labels owned by a firm based in Shenzhen,
China.


Yes and my Aiwa -
http://supreme2.ru/images/aiwa-z-d9300m2.jpg
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg1NzY=/z/TFUAAOSwI-BWPQZN/$_86.JPG
which I paid ~£1k for maybe ~30 years back were bought out by Sony.
Still sounds pretty good though.
Deffo needs a few caps changing.


I think mentioning Aiwa in the same context as manufacturers as those like
Quad is a bit of a joke.


You're probably correct


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They like to show their bell ends in their lycra shorts.

This girl at work used to ask me "How is it hanging, Simon?" I used to
say "to the left and then to the right".


I've always said "to the left" (a quote from Bill Cosby). So when cycling
it's moving constantly? Does that not cause swelling? :-)


Not when its as small as yours and his is.


Mine is 7'' and hits the buffers.

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They like to show their bell ends in their lycra shorts.

This girl at work used to ask me "How is it hanging, Simon?" I used to
say "to the left and then to the right".

I've always said "to the left" (a quote from Bill Cosby). So when
cycling
it's moving constantly? Does that not cause swelling? :-)


Not when its as small as yours and his is.


Mine is 7''


We arent discussing your tits, stupid.


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Mine is 7''


We arent discussing your tits, stupid.


Here I am in Monaco last June.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck1f3WEWsAAddsd.jpg

Don't have any.
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Mine is 7''


We arent discussing your tits, stupid.


Here I am in Monaco last June.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck1f3WEWsAAddsd.jpg

Don't have any.


We have the photo of you in the sauna with
the massive beer gut and tits and bad haircut.



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Mine is 7''

We arent discussing your tits, stupid.


Here I am in Monaco last June.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck1f3WEWsAAddsd.jpg

Don't have any.


We have the photo of you in the sauna with
the massive beer gut and tits and bad haircut.


Not me, Guv.

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/lake1.jpg

I drink out of a glass.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu-TE3NWgAAU3VZ.jpg
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Simon Mason wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Simon Mason wrote
Rod Speed wrote


Mine is 7''


We arent discussing your tits, stupid.


Here I am in Monaco last June.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck1f3WEWsAAddsd.jpg


Don't have any.


We have the photo of you in the sauna with
the massive beer gut and tits and bad haircut.


Not me, Guv.


We know it is.

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/lake1.jpg


Yep, that's you.

I drink out of a glass.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu-TE3NWgAAU3VZ.jpg


Flat, warm beer.
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Simon Mason wrote
Rod Speed wrote


Mine is 7''


We arent discussing your tits, stupid.


Here I am in Monaco last June.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck1f3WEWsAAddsd.jpg


Don't have any.


We have the photo of you in the sauna with
the massive beer gut and tits and bad haircut.


Not me, Guv.


We know it is.
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/lake1.jpg


Yep, that's you.
I drink out of a glass.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu-TE3NWgAAU3VZ.jpg


Flat, warm beer.


THAT's a real beer
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ev5embkzig...2007.jpeg?dl=0

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Flat, warm beer.


THAT's a real beer
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ev5embkzig...2007.jpeg?dl=0


I slack off the caps on my 25l polydrums when they are done as it just means more trips to the garage for refills.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu-TE3NWgAAU3VZ.jpg


Flat, warm beer.


THAT's a real beer
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ev5embkzig...2007.jpeg?dl=0


I slack off the caps on my 25l polydrums when they are
done as it just means more trips to the garage for refills.


I'm not stupid enough to drink warm, flat beer.

And I'm not stupid enough to keep the beer in the garage either.



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On Thursday, 27 October 2016 23:12:40 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:17:57 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
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They like to show their bell ends in their lycra shorts.

This girl at work used to ask me "How is it hanging, Simon?" I used to
say "to the left and then to the right".

I've always said "to the left" (a quote from Bill Cosby). So when cycling
it's moving constantly? Does that not cause swelling? :-)


Not when its as small as yours and his is.


Mine is 7'' and hits the buffers.


Same here, which I always thought was average. According to google, the average is a pathetic 6", and in some countries 5!

What is "hits the buffers"?

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On Thursday, 27 October 2016 23:12:40 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
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On Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:17:57 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:


They like to show their bell ends in their lycra shorts.

This girl at work used to ask me "How is it hanging, Simon?" I
used to
say "to the left and then to the right".

I've always said "to the left" (a quote from Bill Cosby). So when
cycling
it's moving constantly? Does that not cause swelling? :-)

Not when its as small as yours and his is.


Mine is 7'' and hits the buffers.


Same here, which I always thought was average. According to google, the
average is a pathetic 6", and in some countries 5!

What is "hits the buffers"?

Use your imagination.
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On 28/10/2016 20:14, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 05:16:24 +0100, Simon Mason wrote:

On Thursday, 27 October 2016 23:12:40 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 21:28:00 +0100, Simon Mason
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On Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:17:57 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:


They like to show their bell ends in their lycra shorts.

This girl at work used to ask me "How is it hanging, Simon?" I
used to
say "to the left and then to the right".

I've always said "to the left" (a quote from Bill Cosby). So when
cycling
it's moving constantly? Does that not cause swelling? :-)

Not when its as small as yours and his is.

Mine is 7'' and hits the buffers.


Same here, which I always thought was average. According to google, the
average is a pathetic 6", and in some countries 5!

What is "hits the buffers"?

Use your imagination.


7 inches wouldn't do that.

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On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 20:27:20 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 28/10/2016 20:14, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 05:16:24 +0100, Simon Mason
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On Thursday, 27 October 2016 23:12:40 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
news On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 21:28:00 +0100, Simon Mason
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On Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:17:57 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:


They like to show their bell ends in their lycra shorts.

This girl at work used to ask me "How is it hanging, Simon?" I
used to
say "to the left and then to the right".

I've always said "to the left" (a quote from Bill Cosby). So when
cycling
it's moving constantly? Does that not cause swelling? :-)

Not when its as small as yours and his is.

Mine is 7'' and hits the buffers.

Same here, which I always thought was average. According to google, the
average is a pathetic 6", and in some countries 5!

What is "hits the buffers"?

Use your imagination.


7 inches wouldn't do that.

How would you know ;-)
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What is "hits the buffers"?

Use your imagination.


7 inches wouldn't do that.


Wrong - Mrs M told me it happened and she would know.

"On average, the vagina is 3 to 4 inches deep during un-arousal periods, although some women have a vagina that is around 5 to 7 inches deep."




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What is "hits the buffers"?

Use your imagination.


7 inches wouldn't do that.


Wrong - Mrs M told me it happened and she would know.

"On average, the vagina is 3 to 4 inches deep during un-arousal
periods, although some women have a vagina that is around 5 to 7
inches deep."



Phucker knows nothing about buffers. And never will do.
Simon:
You are slowly but surely going off your rocker.
Get a paper round - or something.



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On Friday, 28 October 2016 20:50:07 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

What is "hits the buffers"?

Use your imagination.


7 inches wouldn't do that.


Wrong - Mrs M told me it happened and she would know.

"On average, the vagina is 3 to 4 inches deep during un-arousal periods, although some women have a vagina that is around 5 to 7 inches deep."


Funny how most say they need 8 inches to touch the end.

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On Thursday, 27 October 2016 23:12:40 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
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On Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:17:57 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
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They like to show their bell ends in their lycra shorts.

This girl at work used to ask me "How is it hanging, Simon?" I
used to
say "to the left and then to the right".

I've always said "to the left" (a quote from Bill Cosby). So when
cycling
it's moving constantly? Does that not cause swelling? :-)

Not when its as small as yours and his is.

Mine is 7'' and hits the buffers.


Same here, which I always thought was average. According to google, the
average is a pathetic 6", and in some countries 5!

What is "hits the buffers"?

Use your imagination.


He hasn't got one.

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On Thursday, 27 October 2016 23:12:40 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
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On Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:17:57 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
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They like to show their bell ends in their lycra shorts.

This girl at work used to ask me "How is it hanging, Simon?" I
used to
say "to the left and then to the right".

I've always said "to the left" (a quote from Bill Cosby). So when
cycling
it's moving constantly? Does that not cause swelling? :-)

Not when its as small as yours and his is.

Mine is 7'' and hits the buffers.

Same here, which I always thought was average. According to google, the
average is a pathetic 6", and in some countries 5!

What is "hits the buffers"?

Use your imagination.


He hasn't got one.


I have an excellent imagination.

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On Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:17:57 UTC+1, James Wilkinson Sword
wrote:


They like to show their bell ends in their lycra shorts.

This girl at work used to ask me "How is it hanging, Simon?" I
used to
say "to the left and then to the right".

I've always said "to the left" (a quote from Bill Cosby). So when
cycling
it's moving constantly? Does that not cause swelling? :-)

Not when its as small as yours and his is.

Mine is 7'' and hits the buffers.

Same here, which I always thought was average. According to google,
the
average is a pathetic 6", and in some countries 5!

What is "hits the buffers"?

Use your imagination.


He hasn't got one.


I have an excellent imagination.


Fantasy.



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Simon:
You are slowly but surely going off your rocker.
Get a paper round - or something.


Yes, I am looking at a whole raft of £20 000 jobs but I may be overqualified in most of them.

Might drive Taxis on nights and walk with our lass during the day.

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Simon:
You are slowly but surely going off your rocker.
Get a paper round - or something.


Yes, I am looking at a whole raft of £20 000 jobs but I may be overqualified
in most of them.

Not if you can find a position to make best use of your modesty.


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The photos did not show any idiocy.


Bull****. Its stupid to have a choc block there. He should have
replaced the cord entirely so there is no join and if that isnt
practical, the choc block should be inside the metal case of
the light. Better to have a soldered joint and heatshrink tho,
then no chance of it coming loose over time.


If I can be arsed, I could encase the whole block in a plastic resin in a
few minutes.


And that would look even more grotty.


And inaccessible screw terminals are deprecated.

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People didn't generally used to buy plugs. They bought appliances with
plugs already fitted, with the correct fuse in them. But they were good
plugs, not the moulded rubbish we get today.

Are you quite young?


Sixty.

The rules saying appliances had to have a plug fitted came in 1994, and
before that appliances generally didn't have plugs fitted.


Most did. A few didn't.



They had no plugs because not all sockets were 13 amp back then.


ISTR a two or three decade period during which square pin plugs were
rountinely fitted and you had to change them if you had old sockets.

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On Saturday, 29 October 2016 09:55:41 UTC+1, bm wrote:
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On Friday, 28 October 2016 22:07:26 UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Simon:
You are slowly but surely going off your rocker.
Get a paper round - or something.


Yes, I am looking at a whole raft of £20 000 jobs but I may be overqualified
in most of them.

Not if you can find a position to make best use of your modesty.


I have applied for a £23000 job testing water for Yorkshire Water.
Should be in the bag as I did that for 40 years.

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