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harry wrote: Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_...eets_VW_Type_1. jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" (and at about 4000rpm), but I really hadn't envisaged the size of the mechanism! I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( John |
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harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. (and at about 4000rpm), but I really hadn't envisaged the size of the mechanism! I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. |
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On 26/11/2015 10:47, Rod Speed wrote:
Another John wrote harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. (and at about 4000rpm), but I really hadn't envisaged the size of the mechanism! I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. |
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On 26/11/2015 13:28, dennis@home wrote:
On 26/11/2015 10:47, Rod Speed wrote: Another John wrote harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. (and at about 4000rpm), but I really hadn't envisaged the size of the mechanism! I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. Yeah those Russian battle fleets in the Pacific were awesome, God knows who'd have stopped the Japs if it wasn't for them.//End of alternative history lesson. |
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On Thursday, 26 November 2015 14:53:10 UTC, Albert Zweistein wrote:
On 26/11/2015 13:28, dennis@home wrote: On 26/11/2015 10:47, Rod Speed wrote: Another John wrote harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. (and at about 4000rpm), but I really hadn't envisaged the size of the mechanism! I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. Yeah those Russian battle fleets in the Pacific were awesome, God knows who'd have stopped the Japs if it wasn't for them.//End of alternative history lesson. Learn your history from Hollywood I see. Wel John Wayne did not win WW2 Russia had around four times the casualties of the remainder of the allies. They invaded Northern Japan. (They're still there) The Brits had a Pacific fleet too. And our carriers were proof against Kamikaze attack, they had armoured decks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Pacific_Fleet In WW2 we had aircraft firing bigger rounds than this. (47 mm) Anti submarine weapon. http://www.historyofwar.org/articles...ito_XVIII.html |
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On 26/11/2015 16:41, harry wrote:
On Thursday, 26 November 2015 14:53:10 UTC, Albert Zweistein wrote: On 26/11/2015 13:28, dennis@home wrote: On 26/11/2015 10:47, Rod Speed wrote: Another John wrote harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. (and at about 4000rpm), but I really hadn't envisaged the size of the mechanism! I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. Yeah those Russian battle fleets in the Pacific were awesome, God knows who'd have stopped the Japs if it wasn't for them.//End of alternative history lesson. Learn your history from Hollywood I see. Wel John Wayne did not win WW2 No **** Sherlock and why should we let the facts get in the way of patriotic fervour. Russia had around four times the casualties of the remainder of the allies. They invaded Northern Japan. (They're still there) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_War "The Soviet Union fought two short, undeclared border conflicts with Japan in 1938 and 1939, then remained neutral until August 1945" By which time it was pretty well done and dusted. The Brits had a Pacific fleet too. And our carriers were proof against Kamikaze attack, they had armoured decks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Pacific_Fleet The Japs did a good job of turning our capital ships into submarines http://combinedfleet.com/battles/Sin...es_and_Repulse "Three days after Pearl Harbor, the Japanese demonstrated to the Royal Navy exactly what happens to surface craft who stick their necks out without friendly air cover. Britain's Force Z, centered on the battleship Prince of Wales and the battlecruiser Repulse, attempted to intercept the Japanese amphibious forces off of Malaya. They were located by planes of several IJN air groups off the eastern coast of the peninsula, and subjected to multiple attacks, the third of which left both capital ships sinking. With their demise, the road to Singapore lay open" In WW2 we had aircraft firing bigger rounds than this. (47 mm) Anti submarine weapon. http://www.historyofwar.org/articles...ito_XVIII.html Trrrrah ...breaks into a rousing chorus of God save the Queen. Anyone who thinks WW2 could have been won without the Americans is a deluded prat. BTW Oscar Wilde said "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" and it's still true to this day. |
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Zweistein wrote: On 26/11/2015 16:41, harry wrote: On Thursday, 26 November 2015 14:53:10 UTC, Albert Zweistein wrote: On 26/11/2015 13:28, dennis@home wrote: On 26/11/2015 10:47, Rod Speed wrote: Another John wrote harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. (and at about 4000rpm), but I really hadn't envisaged the size of the mechanism! I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. Yeah those Russian battle fleets in the Pacific were awesome, God knows who'd have stopped the Japs if it wasn't for them.//End of alternative history lesson. Learn your history from Hollywood I see. Wel John Wayne did not win WW2 No **** Sherlock and why should we let the facts get in the way of patriotic fervour. Russia had around four times the casualties of the remainder of the allies. They invaded Northern Japan. (They're still there) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_War "The Soviet Union fought two short, undeclared border conflicts with Japan in 1938 and 1939, then remained neutral until August 1945" By which time it was pretty well done and dusted. However, The Russians (USSR) fought a very bitter war in Europe The Brits had a Pacific fleet too. And our carriers were proof against Kamikaze attack, they had armoured decks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Pacific_Fleet The Japs did a good job of turning our capital ships into submarines http://combinedfleet.com/battles/Sin...es_and_Repulse "Three days after Pearl Harbor, the Japanese demonstrated to the Royal Navy exactly what happens to surface craft who stick their necks out without friendly air cover. Britain's Force Z, centered on the battleship Prince of Wales and the battlecruiser Repulse, attempted to intercept the Japanese amphibious forces off of Malaya. They were located by planes of several IJN air groups off the eastern coast of the peninsula, and subjected to multiple attacks, the third of which left both capital ships sinking. With their demise, the road to Singapore lay open" How does that alter the fact that 3 years later Britain had an active Pacific Fleet. Remember the US lost most of its Pacific Fleet 3 days previously. -- Please note new email address: |
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On 26/11/2015 17:48, charles wrote:
In article . com, Albert Zweistein wrote: On 26/11/2015 16:41, harry wrote: On Thursday, 26 November 2015 14:53:10 UTC, Albert Zweistein wrote: On 26/11/2015 13:28, dennis@home wrote: On 26/11/2015 10:47, Rod Speed wrote: Another John wrote harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. (and at about 4000rpm), but I really hadn't envisaged the size of the mechanism! I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. Yeah those Russian battle fleets in the Pacific were awesome, God knows who'd have stopped the Japs if it wasn't for them.//End of alternative history lesson. Learn your history from Hollywood I see. Wel John Wayne did not win WW2 No **** Sherlock and why should we let the facts get in the way of patriotic fervour. Russia had around four times the casualties of the remainder of the allies. They invaded Northern Japan. (They're still there) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_War "The Soviet Union fought two short, undeclared border conflicts with Japan in 1938 and 1939, then remained neutral until August 1945" By which time it was pretty well done and dusted. However, The Russians (USSR) fought a very bitter war in Europe And the other allies didn't? Stalin was quite happy to be allied to the Krauts until attacked. The Brits had a Pacific fleet too. And our carriers were proof against Kamikaze attack, they had armoured decks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Pacific_Fleet The Japs did a good job of turning our capital ships into submarines http://combinedfleet.com/battles/Sin...es_and_Repulse "Three days after Pearl Harbor, the Japanese demonstrated to the Royal Navy exactly what happens to surface craft who stick their necks out without friendly air cover. Britain's Force Z, centered on the battleship Prince of Wales and the battlecruiser Repulse, attempted to intercept the Japanese amphibious forces off of Malaya. They were located by planes of several IJN air groups off the eastern coast of the peninsula, and subjected to multiple attacks, the third of which left both capital ships sinking. With their demise, the road to Singapore lay open" How does that alter the fact that 3 years later Britain had an active Pacific Fleet. Remember the US lost most of its Pacific Fleet 3 days previously. US carrier groups were decisive the Pacific theater. This is so well known I can't be arsed to provide a link. |
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On 26/11/2015 18:03, Albert Zweistein wrote:
US carrier groups were decisive the Pacific theater. This is so well known I can't be arsed to provide a link. The reader can feel free to insert an 'in' in the above post. |
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"Rod Speed" wrote: Another John wrote harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._meets_VW_Type _1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. Yes - my mistake: I should have said "*used* rounds the size of milk bottles" - the projectile is a 'mere' 30mm calibre .... i.e. about the calibre of the neck of milk bottle :-) There's a picture on the page Harry quoted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_...m_GAU-8_Avenge r_round.jpg I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. That was then. This is now. J. |
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On 26/11/15 17:40, Albert Zweistein wrote:
BTW Oscar Wilde said "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" and it's still true to this day. If he did, he was just repeating what Samuel Johnson had said a hundred years earlier in 1775. -- Jeff |
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On 26/11/2015 18:47, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 26/11/15 17:40, Albert Zweistein wrote: BTW Oscar Wilde said "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" and it's still true to this day. If he did, he was just repeating what Samuel Johnson had said a hundred years earlier in 1775. Well **** me, you're right, all this time I've been giving Oscar props he may not have deserved. |
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On 26/11/2015 18:51, Albert Zweistein wrote:
On 26/11/2015 18:47, Jeff Layman wrote: On 26/11/15 17:40, Albert Zweistein wrote: BTW Oscar Wilde said "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" and it's still true to this day. If he did, he was just repeating what Samuel Johnson had said a hundred years earlier in 1775. Well **** me, you're right, all this time I've been giving Oscar props he may not have deserved. He actually said this "Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious" which is nearly as good. IMHO of course. |
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"dennis@home" wrote in message web.com... On 26/11/2015 10:47, Rod Speed wrote: Another John wrote harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. (and at about 4000rpm), but I really hadn't envisaged the size of the mechanism! I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. It they had decided to stay out of WW2 entirely, you lot would either have eventually decided on a truce, or would have been occupied. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. But were only able to do that because of the lend lease stuff that the US provided them. Without that they wouldn’t have survived to be able to do that stuff later. |
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On 26/11/2015 07:52, harry wrote:
Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg US A10 tankbuster killed more British troops in Gulf ware than enemy forces did. Trigger happy US pilots & depleted uranium shells not a good mix. |
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"harry" wrote in message ... On Thursday, 26 November 2015 14:53:10 UTC, Albert Zweistein wrote: On 26/11/2015 13:28, dennis@home wrote: On 26/11/2015 10:47, Rod Speed wrote: Another John wrote harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. (and at about 4000rpm), but I really hadn't envisaged the size of the mechanism! I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. Yeah those Russian battle fleets in the Pacific were awesome, God knows who'd have stopped the Japs if it wasn't for them.//End of alternative history lesson. Learn your history from Hollywood I see. We'll see... Wel John Wayne did not win WW2 Churchill didn't either. Russia had around four times the casualties of the remainder of the allies. Irrelevant to what would have happened to them if the US had not provided them with a hell of a lot of material support very early on. They invaded Northern Japan. Only after Japan was on its knees militarily. (They're still there) The Brits had a Pacific fleet too. Didn't last very long against the Japs off Malaya. And our carriers were proof against Kamikaze attack, they had armoured decks. Didn't help the Prince of Wales and the Repulse any. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinkin...es_and_Repulse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Pacific_Fleet A fart in the bath compared with what the yanks had. In WW2 we had aircraft firing bigger rounds than this. (47 mm) Anti submarine weapon. http://www.historyofwar.org/articles...ito_XVIII.html But still have sweet **** all in the way of tank killers compared with the A10s. |
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"charles" wrote in message ... In article . com, Albert Zweistein wrote: On 26/11/2015 16:41, harry wrote: On Thursday, 26 November 2015 14:53:10 UTC, Albert Zweistein wrote: On 26/11/2015 13:28, dennis@home wrote: On 26/11/2015 10:47, Rod Speed wrote: Another John wrote harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. (and at about 4000rpm), but I really hadn't envisaged the size of the mechanism! I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. Yeah those Russian battle fleets in the Pacific were awesome, God knows who'd have stopped the Japs if it wasn't for them.//End of alternative history lesson. Learn your history from Hollywood I see. Wel John Wayne did not win WW2 No **** Sherlock and why should we let the facts get in the way of patriotic fervour. Russia had around four times the casualties of the remainder of the allies. They invaded Northern Japan. (They're still there) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_War "The Soviet Union fought two short, undeclared border conflicts with Japan in 1938 and 1939, then remained neutral until August 1945" By which time it was pretty well done and dusted. However, The Russians (USSR) fought a very bitter war in Europe But without the yanks wouldn’t have got to do that. The Brits had a Pacific fleet too. And our carriers were proof against Kamikaze attack, they had armoured decks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Pacific_Fleet The Japs did a good job of turning our capital ships into submarines http://combinedfleet.com/battles/Sin...es_and_Repulse "Three days after Pearl Harbor, the Japanese demonstrated to the Royal Navy exactly what happens to surface craft who stick their necks out without friendly air cover. Britain's Force Z, centered on the battleship Prince of Wales and the battlecruiser Repulse, attempted to intercept the Japanese amphibious forces off of Malaya. They were located by planes of several IJN air groups off the eastern coast of the peninsula, and subjected to multiple attacks, the third of which left both capital ships sinking. With their demise, the road to Singapore lay open" How does that alter the fact that 3 years later Britain had an active Pacific Fleet. Which was nothing compared with what the yanks had then. Remember the US lost most of its Pacific Fleet 3 days previously. Like hell it did. And their industrial capacity allowed them to fix that problem quite quickly. Which is why Churchill cheered Pearl Harbour and proclaimed that it was only a matter of time till the allies had won WW2. |
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Rod Speed wrote Another John wrote harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. Yes - my mistake: I should have said "*used* rounds the size of milk bottles" - the projectile is a 'mere' 30mm calibre .... i.e. about the calibre of the neck of milk bottle :-) There's a picture on the page Harry quoted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_...nger_round.jpg Yeah, the shells are closer. I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. That was then. This is now. Without the american arms industry, the first Gulf War wouldn’t have worked as well. |
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"Jonno" wrote in message ... dennis@home scribbled On 26/11/2015 10:47, Rod Speed wrote: Another John wrote harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. (and at about 4000rpm), but I really hadn't envisaged the size of the mechanism! I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. Thank **** the yanks did get involved, otherwise we'd have been facing the Russians over the channel for 30 odd years. That wouldn't have happened if the yanks hadn't got involved. The krauts would have done over the russians if the yanks had not got involved very early on before Pearl Harbour. |
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On 26/11/15 21:21, Jonno wrote:
The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. Thank **** the yanks did get involved, otherwise we'd have been facing the Russians over the channel for 30 odd years. What do you mean 'we'd have been' WE HAVE been. What do you think the EU is? -- the biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with what it actually is. |
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On 26/11/15 23:20, Jonno wrote:
The Natural Philosopher scribbled On 26/11/15 21:21, Jonno wrote: The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. Thank **** the yanks did get involved, otherwise we'd have been facing the Russians over the channel for 30 odd years. What do you mean 'we'd have been' WE HAVE been. What do you think the EU is? I used to think people were joking when they said inbreeding caused a lot of problems in your part of the world. Well I done been as far as Norwich, but I were born of parents from opposite ends of the ****ry. -- the biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with what it actually is. |
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writes Without the american arms industry, the first Gulf War wouldnt have worked as well. The Americans think they won every war since time began. They even celebrate 4th July without realising that was a European war from which they happened to benefit. -- Graeme |
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On Thursday, 26 November 2015 19:28:07 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
"dennis@home" wrote in message web.com... On 26/11/2015 10:47, Rod Speed wrote: Another John wrote harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. (and at about 4000rpm), but I really hadn't envisaged the size of the mechanism! I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. It they had decided to stay out of WW2 entirely, you lot would either have eventually decided on a truce, or would have been occupied. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. But were only able to do that because of the lend lease stuff that the US provided them. Without that they wouldn't have survived to be able to do that stuff later. Drivel. The Russians produced the best tank the world had seen and in greatest numbers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-34 |
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On Friday, 27 November 2015 07:53:40 UTC, News wrote:
In message , Rod Speed writes Without the american arms industry, the first Gulf War wouldn't have worked as well. The Americans think they won every war since time began. They even celebrate 4th July without realising that was a European war from which they happened to benefit. -- Graeme The Yanks have lost every war since WW2. Oh , I forgot. They done pretty good in Grenada. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada |
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On Thursday, 26 November 2015 19:39:57 UTC, rick wrote:
On 26/11/2015 07:52, harry wrote: Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg US A10 tankbuster killed more British troops in Gulf ware than enemy forces did. Trigger happy US pilots & depleted uranium shells not a good mix. And poisoned thousands of civilians. Brain dead springs to mind. |
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harry wrote: On Thursday, 26 November 2015 19:28:07 UTC, Rod Speed wrote: "dennis@home" wrote in message web.com... On 26/11/2015 10:47, Rod Speed wrote: Another John wrote harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. (and at about 4000rpm), but I really hadn't envisaged the size of the mechanism! I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. It they had decided to stay out of WW2 entirely, you lot would either have eventually decided on a truce, or would have been occupied. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. But were only able to do that because of the lend lease stuff that the US provided them. Without that they wouldn't have survived to be able to do that stuff later. Drivel. The Russians produced the best tank the world had seen and in greatest numbers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-34 that doesn't negate the supplies delivered, at enormous human cost, by the Arctic Convoys into Murmansk. -- Please note new email address: |
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On 26/11/15 23:57, Jonno wrote:
The Natural Philosopher scribbled On 26/11/15 23:20, Jonno wrote: The Natural Philosopher scribbled On 26/11/15 21:21, Jonno wrote: The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. Thank **** the yanks did get involved, otherwise we'd have been facing the Russians over the channel for 30 odd years. What do you mean 'we'd have been' WE HAVE been. What do you think the EU is? I used to think people were joking when they said inbreeding caused a lot of problems in your part of the world. Well I done been as far as Norwich, but I were born of parents from opposite ends of the ****ry. Long bike ride to East Angular for yer Dad ? I was born in Surrey -- the biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with what it actually is. |
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Rod Speed wrote Without the american arms industry, the first Gulf War wouldnt have worked as well. The Americans think they won every war since time began. Nope, they dont think they won the Boer War, or Trafalgar, or Culloden, or Waterloo, or the Punic Wars, or the Crusades either. They even celebrate 4th July without realising that was a European war from which they happened to benefit. Even sillier than you usually manage. |
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On 27/11/2015 08:25, harry wrote:
On Friday, 27 November 2015 07:53:40 UTC, News wrote: In message , Rod Speed writes Without the american arms industry, the first Gulf War wouldn't have worked as well. The Americans think they won every war since time began. They even celebrate 4th July without realising that was a European war from which they happened to benefit. The Yanks have lost every war since WW2. I'm sure Saddam agrees with you as he sits on the Kuwaiti throne. //end second alternate history lesson. |
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"harry" wrote in message ... On Thursday, 26 November 2015 19:28:07 UTC, Rod Speed wrote: "dennis@home" wrote in message web.com... On 26/11/2015 10:47, Rod Speed wrote: Another John wrote harry wrote Came across this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_..._VW_Type_1.jpg Very good Harry! I always knew that the A10 (tank buster) fired "rounds the size of milk bottles" Never seen any 30mm milk bottles. (and at about 4000rpm), but I really hadn't envisaged the size of the mechanism! I can't help thinking that the world would be a much better place (though less interesting for me) if the American arms industry didn't exist :-( Could have been rather more 'interesting' for you if the krauts had prevailed. The Americans didn't win WW2 despite Hollywood. It they had decided to stay out of WW2 entirely, you lot would either have eventually decided on a truce, or would have been occupied. The Russians did more than the USA by a long stretch. But were only able to do that because of the lend lease stuff that the US provided them. Without that they wouldn't have survived to be able to do that stuff later. Drivel. We'll see... The Russians produced the best tank the world had seen and in greatest numbers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-34 And they wouldn't have been able to do that without the assistance the yanks gave them early on that ensured that they got to do that later. |
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Albert Zweistein wrote: On 27/11/2015 08:25, harry wrote: On Friday, 27 November 2015 07:53:40 UTC, News wrote: In message , Rod Speed writes Without the american arms industry, the first Gulf War wouldn't have worked as well. The Americans think they won every war since time began. They even celebrate 4th July without realising that was a European war from which they happened to benefit. The Yanks have lost every war since WW2. I'm sure Saddam agrees with you as he sits on the Kuwaiti throne. //end second alternate history lesson. they certainly didn't win in VietNam -- Please note new email address: |
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harry wrote
News wrote Rod Speed wrote Without the american arms industry, the first Gulf War wouldn't have worked as well. The Americans think they won every war since time began. They even celebrate 4th July without realising that was a European war from which they happened to benefit. The Yanks have lost every war since WW2. Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage. They didn't lose the first Gulf War. And while you lot would have lost WW1 and WW2 without the yanks, the few you have won since then are just farts in the bath, just Malaya and the Falklands. Oh , I forgot. They done pretty good in Grenada. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada |
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On 27/11/2015 09:38, charles wrote:
In article om, Albert Zweistein wrote: On 27/11/2015 08:25, harry wrote: On Friday, 27 November 2015 07:53:40 UTC, News wrote: In message , Rod Speed writes Without the american arms industry, the first Gulf War wouldn't have worked as well. The Americans think they won every war since time began. They even celebrate 4th July without realising that was a European war from which they happened to benefit. The Yanks have lost every war since WW2. I'm sure Saddam agrees with you as he sits on the Kuwaiti throne. //end second alternate history lesson. they certainly didn't win in VietNam I think you lost the logical connectives there. Harry said *every*. |
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A Pterasaur impersonating Jonno posted this in uk.d-i-y:
charles scribbled In article om, Albert Zweistein wrote: On 27/11/2015 08:25, harry wrote: On Friday, 27 November 2015 07:53:40 UTC, News wrote: In message , Rod Speed writes Without the american arms industry, the first Gulf War wouldn't have worked as well. The Americans think they won every war since time began. They even celebrate 4th July without realising that was a European war from which they happened to benefit. The Yanks have lost every war since WW2. I'm sure Saddam agrees with you as he sits on the Kuwaiti throne. //end second alternate history lesson. they certainly didn't win in VietNam Or Iraq and Afganistan. Which bit of *every* didn't you understand? |
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Albert Zweistein scribbled A Pterasaur impersonating Jonno posted this in uk.d-i-y: charles scribbled In article om, Albert Zweistein wrote: On 27/11/2015 08:25, harry wrote: On Friday, 27 November 2015 07:53:40 UTC, News wrote: In message , Rod Speed writes Without the american arms industry, the first Gulf War wouldn't have worked as well. The Americans think they won every war since time began. They even celebrate 4th July without realising that was a European war from which they happened to benefit. The Yanks have lost every war since WW2. I'm sure Saddam agrees with you as he sits on the Kuwaiti throne. //end second alternate history lesson. they certainly didn't win in VietNam Or Iraq and Afganistan. Which bit of *every* didn't you understand? Depends upon your definition of a war. Getting desperate huh? |
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On 27/11/2015 12:13, Jonno wrote:
Albert Zweistein scribbled Albert Zweistein scribbled A Pterasaur impersonating Jonno posted this in uk.d-i-y: charles scribbled In article om, Albert Zweistein wrote: On 27/11/2015 08:25, harry wrote: On Friday, 27 November 2015 07:53:40 UTC, News wrote: In message , Rod Speed writes Without the american arms industry, the first Gulf War wouldn't have worked as well. The Americans think they won every war since time began. They even celebrate 4th July without realising that was a European war from which they happened to benefit. The Yanks have lost every war since WW2. I'm sure Saddam agrees with you as he sits on the Kuwaiti throne. //end second alternate history lesson. they certainly didn't win in VietNam Or Iraq and Afganistan. Which bit of *every* didn't you understand? Depends upon your definition of a war. Getting desperate huh? No. Not that interested in the thread as it happens. I've never been that arsed when a poster starts point scoring because someone misread one word out of hundreds. It's the same sort of ******** that ****es me off when I see a grammar/spelling thread. Thankfully they are few and far between now. Um, how can you be not interested and ****ed off at the same time? |
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On 27/11/2015 13:38, Huge wrote:
On 2015-11-27, Albert Zweistein wrote: [60 lines snipped] Ahh, a nym-shifter. Definitive evidence of troll-hood. **** off and die screaming, would you? Having a bad day today are we? |
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On Friday, 27 November 2015 09:29:50 UTC, Albert Zweistein wrote:
On 27/11/2015 08:25, harry wrote: On Friday, 27 November 2015 07:53:40 UTC, News wrote: In message , Rod Speed writes Without the american arms industry, the first Gulf War wouldn't have worked as well. The Americans think they won every war since time began. They even celebrate 4th July without realising that was a European war from which they happened to benefit. The Yanks have lost every war since WW2. I'm sure Saddam agrees with you as he sits on the Kuwaiti throne. //end second alternate history lesson. You were supposed to find WMDs in Iraq. Failed. You were supposed to be bringing democracy Failed. You were supposed to be removing terrorists. Failed. You killed maybe 200,00 civilians, ruined the lives of millions more. You poisoned the country with DU. you ensured that thousand of people would declare jihad. Failed in Iraq. Failed in Afghanistan. Failed in Libya. Failed in Somalia. We now have more trouble in these areas than ever before. Failed to sort out Saudi Arabia where the 11/9 terrorists came from. Failed in Iran. Failed in Cuba. |