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I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years
ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. ii) a 25litre drum containing some variety of petroleum spirit. The area was once used for painting/spraying and much car maintenance. The local authority don't want to know. They suggested local scrappies who are equally reluctant. Diageo are incommunicado. Any suggestions gladly considered. Frank |
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On 30/09/14 12:53, WhinYett wrote:
I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. Can you empty it in a controlled fashion? If so, try the scrappies again, showing them the valve open. ii) a 25litre drum containing some variety of petroleum spirit. The area was once used for painting/spraying and much car maintenance. Local dump usually has a section for this. if not, try a different "local" dump (ie next town). The local authority don't want to know. They suggested local scrappies who are equally reluctant. Diageo are incommunicado. Any suggestions gladly considered. Frank |
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On 30/09/2014 12:53, WhinYett wrote:
I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. Empty it somewhere safely and cut it up. ii) a 25litre drum containing some variety of petroleum spirit. The area was once used for painting/spraying and much car maintenance. any waste engine oil place near you? Is there no label? |
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On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 12:53:55 PM UTC+1, WhinYett wrote:
I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. ii) a 25litre drum containing some variety of petroleum spirit. The area was once used for painting/spraying and much car maintenance. The local authority don't want to know. They suggested local scrappies who are equally reluctant. Diageo are incommunicado. Any suggestions gladly considered. Frank I could take the spirit if you're in this area - where are you? NT |
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ii) a 25litre drum containing some variety of petroleum spirit. The area was once used for painting/spraying and much car maintenance. 1. Wait 'til midnight, then go and park on a layby where there's a gulley cover. Pour the spirit down the gulley. Wait five minutes. Start your engine. Reach out of the car window and drop a match down the gulley. Drive away very quickly. 2. Bottle it, copy some Vodka labels and stick them on, sell it to the local Pakistani off licence. Bill |
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On 30/09/2014 13:31, Dennis@home wrote:
On 30/09/2014 12:53, WhinYett wrote: I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. Empty it somewhere safely and cut it up. ii) a 25litre drum containing some variety of petroleum spirit. The area was once used for painting/spraying and much car maintenance. any waste engine oil place near you? Is there no label? Lots! AnalaR, Prod 10179 ER, UN 1271` Petroleum Spirit Cannot find those specific items numbers near them are Petroleum Spirit things. Frank |
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On 30/09/2014 13:22, Tim Watts wrote:
On 30/09/14 12:53, WhinYett wrote: I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. Can you empty it in a controlled fashion? If so, try the scrappies again, showing them the valve open. It has its valve so I guess so. Any hazards? Frank |
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On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:59:37 PM UTC+1, WhinYett wrote:
It has its valve so I guess so. Any hazards? CO2 - frostbite and asphyxiation. It is heavier than air and will accumulate in pits etc. Perhaps the petroleum spirit might be of use to anyone building a big bonfire in November? Owain |
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On 30/09/14 14:59, WhinYett wrote:
On 30/09/2014 13:22, Tim Watts wrote: On 30/09/14 12:53, WhinYett wrote: I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. Can you empty it in a controlled fashion? If so, try the scrappies again, showing them the valve open. It has its valve so I guess so. Any hazards? Frank Without a regulator, it will come out like billy-o. The cylinder will get damn cold too whilst it's loosing gas - enough to burn. And of course under no circumstances do this in a confined space or in a hole or depression in the ground of any sort (CO2 being heavier than air, it will pool). If you want to make the exercise safer, borrow a regulator and discharge it through that - more control. Having said all that, if it were me, I'd get a bottle spanner, wrap the cylinder in a thick towel to hold it by lying on its side and just tweak the valve open a tad, making sure the gas jet cannot hit you (it will get cold fast). I'd try to get it hissing gently then just leave it outside for as long as it takes. Once it's stops hissing, crack the valve open *slowly* just in case there's some left but it's managed to freeze itself shut (unlikely but Mr Murphy will always be hanging around on these occasions). |
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On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:43:29 PM UTC+1, WhinYett wrote:
On 30/09/2014 14:07, wrote: On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 12:53:55 PM UTC+1, WhinYett wrote: ii) a 25litre drum containing some variety of petroleum spirit. The area I could take the spirit if you're in this area - where are you? East Lothian? Ah. Not to worry. NT |
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WhinYett wrote:
On 30/09/2014 13:22, Tim Watts wrote: On 30/09/14 12:53, WhinYett wrote: I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. Can you empty it in a controlled fashion? If so, try the scrappies again, showing them the valve open. It has its valve so I guess so. Any hazards? Frank I still doubt that they'll take it. I couldn't get rid of a thick aluminium cylinder with the valve removed as the smelters don't like anything that can trap any air. Seems daft but that's what I was told. Only way is to cut it in half first. As others have said, local welders might find a use for it. Tim |
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On 30/09/2014 14:55, WhinYett wrote:
On 30/09/2014 13:31, Dennis@home wrote: On 30/09/2014 12:53, WhinYett wrote: I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. Empty it somewhere safely and cut it up. ii) a 25litre drum containing some variety of petroleum spirit. The area was once used for painting/spraying and much car maintenance. any waste engine oil place near you? Is there no label? Lots! AnalaR, Prod 10179 ER, UN 1271` Petroleum Spirit Cannot find those specific items numbers near them are Petroleum Spirit things. This is the current version of that product: https://uk.vwr.com/app/catalog/Produ...40.292&frmls=x The fact that it has the UN number 1271, which is no longer used, rather than UN 1268 suggests that it is quite old. -- Colin Bignell |
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On 30/09/2014 12:53, WhinYett wrote:
I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty.... Ask the local pub, unless they only do real ale. It sounds like the cylinders I used to have in a bar, for pressurising kegs of fizzy lager. -- Colin Bignell |
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On 30/09/14 14:55, WhinYett wrote:
On 30/09/2014 13:31, Dennis@home wrote: On 30/09/2014 12:53, WhinYett wrote: I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. Empty it somewhere safely and cut it up. ii) a 25litre drum containing some variety of petroleum spirit. The area was once used for painting/spraying and much car maintenance. any waste engine oil place near you? Is there no label? Lots! AnalaR, Prod 10179 ER, UN 1271` Petroleum Spirit Cannot find those specific items numbers near them are Petroleum Spirit things. UN1271 is essentially 'petrol' tip it out and let it evaporate then scrap the empty container Frank -- Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll |
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On 30/09/14 14:59, WhinYett wrote:
On 30/09/2014 13:22, Tim Watts wrote: On 30/09/14 12:53, WhinYett wrote: I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. Can you empty it in a controlled fashion? If so, try the scrappies again, showing them the valve open. It has its valve so I guess so. Any hazards? Frank well dont inhale it in a closed room. been there done that. At a brewery -- Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll |
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On 30/09/14 15:22, Tim Watts wrote:
On 30/09/14 14:59, WhinYett wrote: On 30/09/2014 13:22, Tim Watts wrote: On 30/09/14 12:53, WhinYett wrote: I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. Can you empty it in a controlled fashion? If so, try the scrappies again, showing them the valve open. It has its valve so I guess so. Any hazards? Frank Without a regulator, it will come out like billy-o. The cylinder will get damn cold too whilst it's loosing gas - enough to burn. And of course under no circumstances do this in a confined space or in a hole or depression in the ground of any sort (CO2 being heavier than air, it will pool). If you want to make the exercise safer, borrow a regulator and discharge it through that - more control. Having said all that, if it were me, I'd get a bottle spanner, wrap the cylinder in a thick towel to hold it by lying on its side and just tweak the valve open a tad, making sure the gas jet cannot hit you (it will get cold fast). I'd try to get it hissing gently then just leave it outside for as long as it takes. Once it's stops hissing, crack the valve open *slowly* just in case there's some left but it's managed to freeze itself shut (unlikely but Mr Murphy will always be hanging around on these occasions). +1 to ALL of that -- Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message ... WhinYett wrote: ii) a 25litre drum containing some variety of petroleum spirit. The area was once used for painting/spraying and much car maintenance. 1. Wait 'til midnight, then go and park on a layby where there's a gulley cover. Pour the spirit down the gulley. Wait five minutes. Start your engine. Reach out of the car window and drop a match down the gulley. Drive away very quickly. 2. Bottle it, copy some Vodka labels and stick them on, sell it to the local Pakistani off licence. Plus 1 to 2: |
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On 30/09/2014 16:41, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/09/14 15:22, Tim Watts wrote: On 30/09/14 14:59, WhinYett wrote: On 30/09/2014 13:22, Tim Watts wrote: On 30/09/14 12:53, WhinYett wrote: I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. Can you empty it in a controlled fashion? If so, try the scrappies again, showing them the valve open. It has its valve so I guess so. Any hazards? Frank Without a regulator, it will come out like billy-o. The cylinder will get damn cold too whilst it's loosing gas - enough to burn. And of course under no circumstances do this in a confined space or in a hole or depression in the ground of any sort (CO2 being heavier than air, it will pool). If you want to make the exercise safer, borrow a regulator and discharge it through that - more control. Having said all that, if it were me, I'd get a bottle spanner, wrap the cylinder in a thick towel to hold it by lying on its side and just tweak the valve open a tad, making sure the gas jet cannot hit you (it will get cold fast). I'd try to get it hissing gently then just leave it outside for as long as it takes. Once it's stops hissing, crack the valve open *slowly* just in case there's some left but it's managed to freeze itself shut (unlikely but Mr Murphy will always be hanging around on these occasions). +1 to ALL of that +2, except that it is not as scary as some people say. When you use a CO2 fire extinguisher you need a pretty good flow, and the cylinder does not get all that cold. Or look for someone who does MIG welding, who might be very happy to take it off your hands. |
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On 30/09/2014 16:40, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/09/14 14:55, WhinYett wrote: On 30/09/2014 13:31, Dennis@home wrote: On 30/09/2014 12:53, WhinYett wrote: I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. Empty it somewhere safely and cut it up. ii) a 25litre drum containing some variety of petroleum spirit. The area was once used for painting/spraying and much car maintenance. any waste engine oil place near you? Is there no label? Lots! AnalaR, Prod 10179 ER, UN 1271` Petroleum Spirit Cannot find those specific items numbers near them are Petroleum Spirit things. UN1271 is essentially 'petrol' tip it out and let it evaporate then scrap the empty container +1 |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 15:22:00 +0100, Tim Watts
wrote: Having said all that, if it were me, I'd get a bottle spanner, wrap the cylinder in a thick towel to hold it by lying on its side and just tweak the valve open a tad, making sure the gas jet cannot hit you (it will get cold fast). I'd try to get it hissing gently then just leave it outside for as long as it takes. Once it's stops hissing, crack the valve open *slowly* just in case there's some left but it's managed to freeze itself shut (unlikely but Mr Murphy will always be hanging around on these occasions). Mr Murphy would prefer a 70%/30% Nitrogen Co2 mix. G.Harman |
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On 30/09/2014 20:27, newshound wrote:
On 30/09/2014 16:40, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 30/09/14 14:55, WhinYett wrote: On 30/09/2014 13:31, Dennis@home wrote: On 30/09/2014 12:53, WhinYett wrote: I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. Empty it somewhere safely and cut it up. ii) a 25litre drum containing some variety of petroleum spirit. The area was once used for painting/spraying and much car maintenance. any waste engine oil place near you? Is there no label? Lots! AnalaR, Prod 10179 ER, UN 1271` Petroleum Spirit Cannot find those specific items numbers near them are Petroleum Spirit things. UN1271 is essentially 'petrol' tip it out and let it evaporate then scrap the empty container +1 I'd try and have some fun burning it - though I'd be very careful while doing so. |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:40:06 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
UN1271 is essentially 'petrol' Closest I got was "petroleum ester" formly "petroleum sprit". I suspect something similar to lighter fuel. tip it out and let it evaporate then scrap the empty container Trying not to do a Bruncefield in the process. B-) Small amounts over an extended period of time and away from drains cellars etc as I supect the vapour will be heavier than air. -- Cheers Dave. |
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... On 30/09/2014 16:40, The Natural Philosopher wrote: tip it out and let it evaporate then scrap the empty container +1 If I were to do this I'd empty it into a drum of sand or sawdust in an open area and let it evaporate from there. This should allow a slightly more controlled disposal. When I worked for the Medical Research Council this is how waste solvent was disposed of (several gallons at a time). I wouldn't advise smoking whilst doing this... Cheers Mark |
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On 30/09/14 22:14, Ferretygubbins wrote:
"newshound" wrote in message ... On 30/09/2014 16:40, The Natural Philosopher wrote: tip it out and let it evaporate then scrap the empty container +1 If I were to do this I'd empty it into a drum of sand or sawdust in an open area and let it evaporate from there. This should allow a slightly more controlled disposal. When I worked for the Medical Research Council this is how waste solvent was disposed of (several gallons at a time). I wouldn't advise smoking whilst doing this... Sounds like a good plan. I've got rid of solvent by pouring a pint at a time over the concrete drive and let it evaporate off. Here's something else not to do: University in the 80's. Buy old ****box Maxi. Take carb to room with a gallon of petrol to clean and replace seals. End up with big pile of petrol soaked rags. Put rags in dumpster by college side gate. Seemed reasonable... Notice 1/2 hour later that dumpster area stinks of petrol as it remains so for the next day... Remembers that petrol is much heavier than air and dumpster is empty - except for petrol soaked rags. Dumpster therefore now contains about 3m3 of petrol vapour... Prays for the next day that noone takes a lit fag anywhere near the dumpster. *ahem* |
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On 30/09/2014 15:22, Tim Watts wrote:
.... Without a regulator, it will come out like billy-o. The cylinder will get damn cold too whilst it's loosing gas - enough to burn. And of course under no circumstances do this in a confined space or in a hole or depression in the ground of any sort (CO2 being heavier than air, it will pool)... I recall having a 30kg CO2 extinguisher demonstrated to a group of us in a Fire Station. With the doors closed, it filled the three (empty) engine bays with fog to knee height. -- Colin Bignell |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:32:12 +0100, "Nightjar \"cpb\"@" "insert my
surname here wrote: This is the current version of that product: https://uk.vwr.com/app/catalog/Produ...40.292&frmls=x The fact that it has the UN number 1271, which is no longer used, rather than UN 1268 suggests that it is quite old. £343 for 25 litres! |
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"WhinYett" wrote in message ... I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. ii) a 25litre drum containing some variety of petroleum spirit. The area was once used for painting/spraying and much car maintenance. Ask the local pyromaniac if he wants to have a play? Set fire to the petrol stuff, put it out with the CO2, repeat until it's all gone. |
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On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 15:43:42 UTC+1, Gazz wrote:
"WhinYett" wrote in message ... I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. ii) a 25litre drum containing some variety of petroleum spirit. The area was once used for painting/spraying and much car maintenance. Ask the local pyromaniac if he wants to have a play? Set fire to the petrol stuff, put it out with the CO2, repeat until it's all gone. Give it all to the local Eastern europeans they'll sell it as Vodka or something similar. ;-) |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 21:49:34 +0100, Tim Watts
wrote: Once it's stops hissing, crack the valve open *slowly* just in case there's some left but it's managed to freeze itself shut (unlikely but Mr Murphy will always be hanging around on these occasions). Mr Murphy would prefer a 70%/30% Nitrogen Co2 mix. Sounds intriguing - what's that do? Nothing too interesting . Kegs of Guinness in Great Britain used to have a separate compartment which supplied that gas mixture as it helps in the forming the dense head when the liquid is forced through some small holes in the tap nozzle. Then Murphys Stout was imported which also required the same gas mixture for the same reason. This used ordinary kegs so the premises that sold it had to start stocking cylinders and be equipped with regulators for the 70/30 mix .An unfortunate knock on effect from that was once such supplies were in place the Marketing Men had another Gimmick to promote something new and we got a rash of IMHO undrinkable abominations of bitters dispensed the same way sold with nitrogenated heads , Eg Boddingtons Keg, John Smiths Extra Smooth,Worthington Creamflow etc. Then there was that strange hybrid Caffreys which also used the mixture. In a way these did some good in being so awful that they just about pushed the shrinking keg bitter market into a state of terminal decline and allowed decent cask beer from smaller producers to have a resurgence . G.Harman |
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On 30/09/2014 16:32, Nightjar "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote:
On 30/09/2014 14:55, WhinYett wrote: On 30/09/2014 13:31, Dennis@home wrote: On 30/09/2014 12:53, WhinYett wrote: I am in the process of clearing out our "pig sty" (it was one many years ago). It has been used by 3 hoarders including myself over several decades. I have unearthed two items which nobody seems prepared to take from me:- i) CO2 cylinder. 5ft long job labelled distillers company! It is not empty. Empty it somewhere safely and cut it up. ii) a 25litre drum containing some variety of petroleum spirit. The area was once used for painting/spraying and much car maintenance. any waste engine oil place near you? Is there no label? Lots! AnalaR, Prod 10179 ER, UN 1271` Petroleum Spirit Cannot find those specific items numbers near them are Petroleum Spirit things. This is the current version of that product: https://uk.vwr.com/app/catalog/Produ...40.292&frmls=x The fact that it has the UN number 1271, which is no longer used, rather than UN 1268 suggests that it is quite old. more than 20years |
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