[T i m]

Hi all,

Whist buying the shower tray trap the guy in the shop suggested the use
of an alternative metal waste fitting to go with. It still had a
removable centre so continued to provide access for cleaning etc but when
we got it home and looked closer we saw no means of screwing it in place,
given there was no access from underneath (the original had internal
drive 'dogs' in a recess at the top and came with a mating 'key').

So, can anyone recommend a 50mm metal waste fitting that does come with
some way of tightening it up from the top please?

Cheers, T i m

p.s. I thought there might have been some magic 'tool' that could expand
into the inside of this chrome cylinder but apparently not (it was just
designed to be tightened using the backnut underneath.

[andrew]

On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:11:20 PM UTC+1, T i m wrote:
Hi all,

Whist buying the shower tray trap the guy in the shop suggested the use
of an alternative metal waste fitting to go with. It still had a
removable centre so continued to provide access for cleaning etc but when
we got it home and looked closer we saw no means of screwing it in place,
given there was no access from underneath (the original had internal
drive 'dogs' in a recess at the top and came with a mating 'key').

So, can anyone recommend a 50mm metal waste fitting that does come with
some way of tightening it up from the top please?


Usually wastes that come with their own trap can be tightened from the top. Ones that are a separate waste to be used with a normal trap cannot. Something like http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plum.../sd2907/p75019

A

[T i m]

On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:21:29 -0700 (PDT), andrew
wrote:

On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:11:20 PM UTC+1, T i m wrote:
Hi all,

Whist buying the shower tray trap the guy in the shop suggested the use
of an alternative metal waste fitting to go with. It still had a
removable centre so continued to provide access for cleaning etc but when
we got it home and looked closer we saw no means of screwing it in place,
given there was no access from underneath (the original had internal
drive 'dogs' in a recess at the top and came with a mating 'key').

So, can anyone recommend a 50mm metal waste fitting that does come with
some way of tightening it up from the top please?


Usually wastes that come with their own trap can be tightened from the top.

Understood.

Ones that are a separate waste to be used with a normal trap cannot.

As I guessed but wondered if there might be some 'trick'. ;-)

Something like

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plum.../sd2907/p75019

Hmm, I've seen them but am not sure if they would be as 'good' (?)
overall compared with a strong (steel) conventional looking drain
hole.

This is what we were given as a stronger replacement:

http://s.taps4less.com/PI/MA-ACC047.jpg

to this: (Ours wasn't from Wickes and was 50mm).

http://www.wickes.co.uk/shower-trap-40mm/invt/431943/

(note the comments to give you an idea what I'm trying to avoid).

So, I think I remember the drain hole in this rectangular cast tray
being reasonably recessed (5-8mm?). Would one of the domed drains
(presumably metal and stand_on_able) sit pretty flush with the bottom
of the tray such that an 82 yr old might not trip / slip on one do you
think please?

Cheers, T i m

[andrew]

Hmm, I've seen them but am not sure if they would be as 'good' (?)
overall compared with a strong (steel) conventional looking drain
hole.

This is what we were given as a stronger replacement:

http://s.taps4less.com/PI/MA-ACC047.jpg

to this: (Ours wasn't from Wickes and was 50mm).

http://www.wickes.co.uk/shower-trap-40mm/invt/431943/

(note the comments to give you an idea what I'm trying to avoid).

So, I think I remember the drain hole in this rectangular cast tray
being reasonably recessed (5-8mm?). Would one of the domed drains
(presumably metal and stand_on_able) sit pretty flush with the bottom
of the tray such that an 82 yr old might not trip / slip on one do you
think please?

Cheers, T i m

The domed ones sit pretty flush and are stand on-able, but are usually plastic. You can get the same thing in the grid style, either in plastic or in metal. For example:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/McALPINE-S...item3a5e32bfde

A

[T i m]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 00:39:30 -0700 (PDT), andrew
wrote:

You can get the same thing in the grid style, either in plastic or in
metal. For example:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/McALPINE-S...item3a5e32bfde


As we needed to get on with this job I popped over there this
lunchtime and bought two. ;-)

One for Mums shower and one for the guy who is doing the job as his
was also broken.

So, thanks for that Andrew. I wonder how many people 'put up' with the
plastic crap because so many places don't stock the decent stuff (that
was 50p more) or simply can't be bothered to seek out the 'right
solution'?

Cheers and thanks again,

T i m

p.s. It's seem to be a similar thing with the Triton thermostatic
shower. There seem to be no 'nice' mounting points with two 'lugs' at
the bottom of the actual mixer unit 'near' the back of the casting
(but not quite) and the top two lugs 50mm further forward? I'm
probably going to turn up 4 spacers tonight in light of their being no
'proper' mounting / back plate? Are we really expected to fix battens
and studs in just the right places just to make these things mount
nicely?

On a second issue I rang their customer service (nice chap, phoned me
back as promised) re 'how do you stop water getting behind the push on
front fascia?' and was told 'silicone'?

rant /off ;-)

Cheers, T i m