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Hello again,
As most of you know I have had an ongoing issue with damp(condensation) for
sometime. Its in most of the N/NE rooms in winter especially the kitchen.
I have a de humidifier and a fan heater in the kitchen now to no avail. I
still have mould returning.

I saw this TV programme where someone had been " bubble wrapped" in
insulation and was suffering damp as a result I have tried looking up how
you know whether your problem is too much or too little insulation ( and air
movement). How do you tell?

I had begun to think our condensation was a result of too little air
movement and too much double glazing etc. but I had the dining room and
sitting rooms re glazed before Christmas ( necessity - the patio windows and
French windows were broken) and now all the condensation in those rooms has
just gone!

I am not wondering if I should try the same in the kitchen. The kitchen is
always sopping wet on the door and walls around the door and on the window.
They are wooden frames on the double glazed windows and door is wooden. The
door is full of mould and is rotten and needs replacing. I am thinking to do
it in plastic ( and do the window just to match) Now am I asking for more
trouble or less if I do this? What do you think?

By the way, I barely cook , I don't run many things - washing once a week
and dishwasher three times a week and not a lot else most of the time - so
where does the water vapour come from?

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Nor does my misses
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I saw this TV programme where someone had been " bubble wrapped" in
insulation and was suffering damp as a result

Nasty, but don't worry, the doctor can give you some cream for that.
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On Jan 20, 8:57*am, "sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote:
Hello again,
As most of you know I have had an ongoing issue with damp(condensation) *for
sometime. Its in most *of the N/NE rooms in winter especially the kitchen.
I have a de humidifier and a fan heater in the kitchen now to no avail. I
still have mould returning.

I saw this TV programme where someone had been " bubble wrapped" in
insulation and was suffering damp as a result *I have tried looking up how
you know whether your problem is too much or too little insulation ( and air
movement). *How do you tell?

I had begun to think our condensation was a result of too little air
movement and too much double glazing etc. *but *I had the dining room and
sitting rooms re glazed before Christmas ( necessity - the patio windows and
French windows were broken) *and now all the condensation in those rooms has
just gone!

I am not wondering if I should try the same in the kitchen. *The kitchen is
always sopping wet on the door and walls around the door and on the window.
They are wooden frames on the double glazed windows and door is wooden. The
door is full of mould and is rotten and needs replacing. I am thinking to do
it in plastic ( and do the window just to match) *Now am I asking for more
trouble or less if I do this? What do you think?

By the way, I barely cook , I don't run many things - washing once a week
and dishwasher three times a week and not a lot else most of the time - so
where does the water vapour come from?


The dehumidifier fixes all problems.

I assume your dehumidifier is working, ie producing water.
I aiso assume it's a proper one connected to the electricity, not one
of those silly boxes of chemicals.
Some have a tray underneath, you should have several pints of water
daily which you have to empty out..

Others have a pipe to conduct the water outdoors.

Once you have the black mould it is hard to get rid of. You need to
clean it up with a fungicide. (eg bleach)

Other sources of condensation besides cooking are drying clothing/
washing in the house and showering.
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By the way, I barely cook , I don't run many things - washing once a
week and dishwasher three times a week and not a lot else most of the
time - so where does the water vapour come from?


Showers, baths, people breathing, drying towels indoors, as well as
cooking and such. If your home isn't ventilated at all, which some
people do to "stop draughts" and hoping to cut down the heating bills,
water vapour just builds up and condenses onto anything below room
temperature. I remember many years ago, we had a client who was
complaining about the house (Which was practically airtight and
insulated to the extreme) being stuffy and mouldy, so we opened the
plate that was closing a chimney off slightly. Within minutes, the
stuffiness had gone, and within days, all the condensation had gone, at
which point, it was worth cleaning off the mould and mildew. We didn't
even need to install the vent the client had requested we put into the
bathroom window.

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On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:43:56 -0800 (PST), harry wrote:

The dehumidifier fixes all problems.


No, it treats a symptom it doesn't do anything for the root cause of
the problem.

This damp does seem a bit extreme but it doesn't take much water,
from even sparse cooking, to make cold walls/windows run with water.
Kitchens should have extractors that vent outside same with bathrooms
and they need to be used...

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On 20/01/2012 08:57, sweetheart wrote:

By the way, I barely cook , I don't run many things - washing once a
week and dishwasher three times a week and not a lot else most of the
time - so where does the water vapour come from?


Not opening a window when showering even if a fan is running, without a
bathroom (or other) window open the fan won't do it's job.

If your dishwasher is anything like ours when you open the door after a
cycle you are hit with clouds of steam. That's gotta go somewhere...

Blocked gutters? go outside when it's pouring down and make sure the
water is going down the inside of the pipes (not visible)

How do you dry your washing/wet towels etc?

As others have said, a proper dehumidifier will cure the symptoms,
however if there's a lot of damp to clear it might run continuously day
and night for several weeks before getting things under control.

Wet washing on an indoor airer/line/horse is a killer without a
dehumidifier. Just because the DH fan is spinning doesn't mean the
compressor is working. I empty ours every 3 or 4 days at the moment but
it's on all the time and kicks in and out adjusting Relative Humidity to
ambient temerature.


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By the way, I barely cook


Ooh-err missus. Are taking Jamie Oliver too literally?

http://www.jamieoliver.com/tv-books/the-naked-chef

Sorry, couldn't resist.
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On Jan 20, 8:57*am, "sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote:
Hello again,
As most of you know I have had an ongoing issue with damp(condensation) *for
sometime. Its in most *of the N/NE rooms in winter especially the kitchen.
I have a de humidifier and a fan heater in the kitchen now to no avail. I
still have mould returning.

I saw this TV programme where someone had been " bubble wrapped" in
insulation and was suffering damp as a result *I have tried looking up how
you know whether your problem is too much or too little insulation ( and air
movement). *How do you tell?

I had begun to think our condensation was a result of too little air
movement and too much double glazing etc. *but *I had the dining room and
sitting rooms re glazed before Christmas ( necessity - the patio windows and
French windows were broken) *and now all the condensation in those rooms has
just gone!

I am not wondering if I should try the same in the kitchen. *The kitchen is
always sopping wet on the door and walls around the door and on the window.
They are wooden frames on the double glazed windows and door is wooden. The
door is full of mould and is rotten and needs replacing. I am thinking to do
it in plastic ( and do the window just to match) *Now am I asking for more
trouble or less if I do this? What do you think?

By the way, I barely cook , I don't run many things - washing once a week
and dishwasher three times a week and not a lot else most of the time - so
where does the water vapour come from?


Something's wrong with this picture. If you're running a dehumidifier,
there's no way anything should be wet.


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Hello again,
As most of you know I have had an ongoing issue with damp(condensation) *for
sometime. Its in most *of the N/NE rooms in winter especially the kitchen.
I have a de humidifier and a fan heater in the kitchen now to no avail. I
still have mould returning.

I saw this TV programme where someone had been " bubble wrapped" in
insulation and was suffering damp as a result *I have tried looking up how
you know whether your problem is too much or too little insulation ( and air
movement). *How do you tell?

I had begun to think our condensation was a result of too little air
movement and too much double glazing etc. *but *I had the dining room and
sitting rooms re glazed before Christmas ( necessity - the patio windows and
French windows were broken) *and now all the condensation in those rooms has
just gone!

I am not wondering if I should try the same in the kitchen. *The kitchen is
always sopping wet on the door and walls around the door and on the window.
They are wooden frames on the double glazed windows and door is wooden. The
door is full of mould and is rotten and needs replacing. I am thinking to do
it in plastic ( and do the window just to match) *Now am I asking for more
trouble or less if I do this? What do you think?

By the way, I barely cook , I don't run many things - washing once a week
and dishwasher three times a week and not a lot else most of the time - so
where does the water vapour come from?


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On Jan 20, 8:57*am, "sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote:
Hello again,
As most of you know I have had an ongoing issue with damp(condensation) *for
sometime. Its in most *of the N/NE rooms in winter especially the kitchen.
I have a de humidifier and a fan heater in the kitchen now to no avail. I
still have mould returning.

I saw this TV programme where someone had been " bubble wrapped" in
insulation and was suffering damp as a result *I have tried looking up how
you know whether your problem is too much or too little insulation ( and air
movement). *How do you tell?

I had begun to think our condensation was a result of too little air
movement and too much double glazing etc. *but *I had the dining room and
sitting rooms re glazed before Christmas ( necessity - the patio windows and
French windows were broken) *and now all the condensation in those rooms has
just gone!

I am not wondering if I should try the same in the kitchen. *The kitchen is
always sopping wet on the door and walls around the door and on the window.
They are wooden frames on the double glazed windows and door is wooden. The
door is full of mould and is rotten and needs replacing. I am thinking to do
it in plastic ( and do the window just to match) *Now am I asking for more
trouble or less if I do this? What do you think?

By the way, I barely cook , I don't run many things - washing once a week
and dishwasher three times a week and not a lot else most of the time - so
where does the water vapour come from?


Just wondering whether the new windows have trickle vents, which might
explain the improvement there.
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sweetheart wrote:

As most of you know I have had an ongoing issue with damp(condensation) for
sometime. Its in most of the N/NE rooms in winter especially the kitchen.
I have a de humidifier and a fan heater in the kitchen now to no avail. I
still have mould returning.

The kitchen is
always sopping wet on the door and walls around the door and on the window.
They are wooden frames on the double glazed windows and door is wooden. The
door is full of mould and is rotten and needs replacing. I am thinking to do
it in plastic ( and do the window just to match) Now am I asking for more
trouble or less if I do this? What do you think?

How about heat recovery ventilators, something along the lines of
http://www.dealec.com/acatalog/vent_...00w_range.html

This would get fresh air in, moist air out, without losing all
the heat.

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On Jan 20, 10:33*am, "Dave Liquorice"
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:43:56 -0800 (PST), harry wrote:
The dehumidifier fixes all problems.


No, it treats a symptom it doesn't do anything for the root cause of
the problem.

This damp does seem a bit extreme but it doesn't take much water,
from even sparse cooking, to make cold walls/windows run with water.
Kitchens should have extractors that vent outside same with bathrooms
and they need to be used...


I said fixes,not cures.
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Hello again,
As most of you know I have had an ongoing issue with
damp(condensation) for sometime. Its in most of the N/NE rooms in
winter especially the kitchen. I have a de humidifier and a fan
heater in the kitchen now to no avail. I still have mould returning.


Have you tried turning the de humidifier and the fan heater on?

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On Jan 20, 8:57 am, "sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote:
Hello again,
As most of you know I have had an ongoing issue with
damp(condensation) for sometime. Its in most of the N/NE rooms in
winter especially the kitchen.
I have a de humidifier and a fan heater in the kitchen now to no
avail. I still have mould returning.

I saw this TV programme where someone had been " bubble wrapped" in
insulation and was suffering damp as a result I have tried looking
up how you know whether your problem is too much or too little
insulation ( and air movement). How do you tell?

I had begun to think our condensation was a result of too little air
movement and too much double glazing etc. but I had the dining room
and sitting rooms re glazed before Christmas ( necessity - the patio
windows and French windows were broken) and now all the condensation
in those rooms has just gone!

I am not wondering if I should try the same in the kitchen. The
kitchen is always sopping wet on the door and walls around the door
and on the window. They are wooden frames on the double glazed
windows and door is wooden. The door is full of mould and is rotten
and needs replacing. I am thinking to do it in plastic ( and do the
window just to match) Now am I asking for more trouble or less if I
do this? What do you think?

By the way, I barely cook , I don't run many things - washing once a
week and dishwasher three times a week and not a lot else most of
the time - so where does the water vapour come from?


Something's wrong with this picture. If you're running a dehumidifier,
there's no way anything should be wet.


So that's how Moses crossed the Dead Sea then. He just walked very slowly
whist holding a dehumidifier in front of him.

Of course things can still be wet even with a dehumidifier running.

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NT wrote:
On Jan 20, 8:57 am, "sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote:
Hello again,
As most of you know I have had an ongoing issue with
damp(condensation) for sometime. Its in most of the N/NE rooms in
winter especially the kitchen.
I have a de humidifier and a fan heater in the kitchen now to no
avail. I still have mould returning.


I saw this TV programme where someone had been " bubble wrapped" in
insulation and was suffering damp as a result I have tried looking
up how you know whether your problem is too much or too little
insulation ( and air movement). How do you tell?


I had begun to think our condensation was a result of too little air
movement and too much double glazing etc. but I had the dining room
and sitting rooms re glazed before Christmas ( necessity - the patio
windows and French windows were broken) and now all the condensation
in those rooms has just gone!


I am not wondering if I should try the same in the kitchen. The
kitchen is always sopping wet on the door and walls around the door
and on the window. They are wooden frames on the double glazed
windows and door is wooden. The door is full of mould and is rotten
and needs replacing. I am thinking to do it in plastic ( and do the
window just to match) Now am I asking for more trouble or less if I
do this? What do you think?


By the way, I barely cook , I don't run many things - washing once a
week and dishwasher three times a week and not a lot else most of
the time - so where does the water vapour come from?


Something's wrong with this picture. If you're running a dehumidifier,
there's no way anything should be wet.


So that's how Moses crossed the Dead Sea then. He just walked very slowly
whist holding a dehumidifier in front of him.

Of course things can still be wet even with a dehumidifier running.


If they are, water's pouring in somewhere, its not condensation


NT
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Are you wanting payment now? ;-)


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NT wrote:
On Jan 20, 8:57 am, "sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote:
Hello again,
As most of you know I have had an ongoing issue with
damp(condensation) for sometime. Its in most of the N/NE rooms in
winter especially the kitchen.
I have a de humidifier and a fan heater in the kitchen now to no
avail. I still have mould returning.


I saw this TV programme where someone had been " bubble wrapped" in
insulation and was suffering damp as a result I have tried looking
up how you know whether your problem is too much or too little
insulation ( and air movement). How do you tell?


I had begun to think our condensation was a result of too little
air movement and too much double glazing etc. but I had the dining
room and sitting rooms re glazed before Christmas ( necessity -
the patio windows and French windows were broken) and now all the
condensation in those rooms has just gone!


I am not wondering if I should try the same in the kitchen. The
kitchen is always sopping wet on the door and walls around the door
and on the window. They are wooden frames on the double glazed
windows and door is wooden. The door is full of mould and is rotten
and needs replacing. I am thinking to do it in plastic ( and do the
window just to match) Now am I asking for more trouble or less if I
do this? What do you think?


By the way, I barely cook , I don't run many things - washing once
a week and dishwasher three times a week and not a lot else most of
the time - so where does the water vapour come from?


Something's wrong with this picture. If you're running a
dehumidifier, there's no way anything should be wet.


So that's how Moses crossed the Dead Sea then. He just walked very
slowly whist holding a dehumidifier in front of him.

Of course things can still be wet even with a dehumidifier running.


If they are, water's pouring in somewhere, its not condensation


Well that's what happens when you live under a bridge like the OP:-)

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On Jan 20, 11:59 am, John Williamson
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he'll have an R please Bob


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Jim K wrote:
On Jan 20, 11:59 am, John Williamson
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TOLL ALERT

Are you wanting payment now? ;-)


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On Jan 20, 11:59 am, John Williamson
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:21:39 -0000, ARWadsworth
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Jim K wrote:
On Jan 20, 11:59 am, John Williamson
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Man at B&Q wrote:

TOLL ALERT

Are you wanting payment now? ;-)


he'll have an R please Bob



Fingers on buzzers everyone. What D is Bob Holness?


Didn't play the saxophone solo on Gerry Rafferty's 1978 song "Baker
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But was the first person to play James Bond..



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On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:43:56 -0800 (PST), harry wrote:

The dehumidifier fixes all problems.


No, it treats a symptom it doesn't do anything for the root cause of
the problem.

This damp does seem a bit extreme but it doesn't take much water,
from even sparse cooking, to make cold walls/windows run with water.
Kitchens should have extractors that vent outside same with bathrooms
and they need to be used..


I do not have extractor fans and putting one in would be a problem I
suspect. I know if I freeze to death, suck all the heat out of the house
by opening the kitchen windows the problem is much reduced. As it is when I
pile the heat on in there ( fan heater).

Even the de humidifier runs overtime. OH complains about cost - what might
be one or two pence an hour to you mounts up when its constant and its never
off.

I need to get a back door. The old one is rotten ( result of constantly
being wet?). I just fear it may make matters worse.

I know the problem is lack of ventilation and the house is "air tight" - my
predecessor insulated and draught proofed everything in sight ( and probably
out of sight too)

But it has struck me that my sitting room and dining room windows no longer
get condensation even in the worst weather where before the old ones were
always dripping wet in a morning and evening. So I don't know what the
problem is anymore.
Thanks for the advice I am trying everything I can to cure the kitchen -
which is worse than the other rooms.

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Hello again,
As most of you know I have had an ongoing issue with
damp(condensation) for sometime. Its in most of the N/NE rooms in
winter especially the kitchen. I have a de humidifier and a fan
heater in the kitchen now to no avail. I still have mould returning.


Have you tried turning the de humidifier and the fan heater on?


Yes, thank you. I am daft but not that daft. But they have to work overtime
and OH is complaining about the costs, so they do have to be switched off
sometimes. The noise can also be a problem in the night ( I live in a
bungalow and the bedrooms are across from / next the kitchen

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If they are, water's pouring in somewhere, its not condensation

Thanks. I cannot find it but I am getting all the gutters/ facias and
soffits done asap now. Patio windows had to take priority because they
broke. But I am looking for where water might be coming from.



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sweetheart wrote:
Hello again,
As most of you know I have had an ongoing issue with
damp(condensation) for sometime. Its in most of the N/NE rooms in
winter especially the kitchen. I have a de humidifier and a fan
heater in the kitchen now to no avail. I still have mould returning.


Have you tried turning the de humidifier and the fan heater on?

Don't be daft, the "OH" wouldn't allow that.
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sweetheart wrote:
Hello again,
As most of you know I have had an ongoing issue with
damp(condensation) *for sometime. Its in most *of the N/NE rooms in
winter especially the kitchen. I have a de humidifier and a fan
heater in the kitchen now to no avail. I still have mould returning.


Have you tried turning the de humidifier and the fan heater on?


Yes, thank you. I am daft but not that daft. *But they have to work overtime
and OH is complaining about the costs, so they do have to be switched off
sometimes. *The noise can also be a problem in the *night ( I live in a
bungalow and the bedrooms are *across from / next the kitchen


You haven't said how much water you get out of the dehumidifier every
day.
If you're not getting any, the dehumidifier is bust & that is the
reason for your problem..

If it is condensation, a (working) dehumidifier fixes it so long as
it's big enough for the job.


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On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:35:45 -0000, "ARWadsworth"
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sweetheart wrote:
Hello again,
As most of you know I have had an ongoing issue with
damp(condensation) for sometime. Its in most of the N/NE rooms in
winter especially the kitchen. I have a de humidifier and a fan
heater in the kitchen now to no avail. I still have mould returning.


Have you tried turning the de humidifier and the fan heater on?

Don't be daft, the "OH" wouldn't allow that.


One wonders what sort of temperature is maintained in this bungalow, and
whether it was designed as a year round residence.
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I do not have extractor fans and putting one in would be a problem I
suspect. I know if I freeze to death, suck all the heat out of the house
by opening the kitchen windows the problem is much reduced. As it is when I
pile the heat on in there ( fan heater).

Even the de humidifier runs overtime. OH complains about cost - what might
be one or two pence an hour to you mounts up when its constant and its never
off.

Like I have already said:

How about heat recovery ventilators, something along the lines of
http://www.dealec.com/acatalog/vent_...00w_range.html

This would get fresh air in, moist air out, without losing all
the heat, and takes much less power to run than a dehumidifier.

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I saw this TV programme where someone had been " bubble wrapped" in
insulation and was suffering damp as a result


I think I would, too.


I have tried looking up how
you know whether your problem is too much or too little insulation ( and air
movement). How do you tell?


If you fart, your bubble wrap expands.
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Fingers on buzzers everyone. What D is Bob Holness?



Oh oh oh oh...
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Have you tried turning the de humidifier and the fan heater on?

Don't be daft, the "OH" wouldn't allow that.


One wonders what sort of temperature is maintained in this bungalow, and
whether it was designed as a year round residence.


I'm also wondering what happened to the patio doors and windows - did
the OP finally chuck her OH through them?


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If they are, water's pouring in somewhere, its not condensation

Thanks. I cannot find it but I am getting all the gutters/ facias and
soffits done asap now. Patio windows had to take priority because they
broke. * *But I am looking for where water might be coming from.


Somewhere online I've seen diagrams that show all the usual sources of
dampness, but I cant remember where. Might be useful for you.


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sweetheart wrote:
Hello again,
As most of you know I have had an ongoing issue with
damp(condensation) for sometime. Its in most of the N/NE rooms in
winter especially the kitchen. I have a de humidifier and a fan
heater in the kitchen now to no avail. I still have mould returning.


Have you tried turning the de humidifier and the fan heater on?


Yes, thank you. I am daft but not that daft. But they have to work
overtime
and OH is complaining about the costs, so they do have to be switched off
sometimes. The noise can also be a problem in the night ( I live in a
bungalow and the bedrooms are across from / next the kitchen


You haven't said how much water you get out of the dehumidifier every
day.
If you're not getting any, the dehumidifier is bust & that is the
reason for your problem..

If it is condensation, a (working) dehumidifier fixes it so long as
it's big enough for the job.

Its a five litre capacity and I empty it twice a day. I did wonder if I
should have a bigger one but space is limited.

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On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:35:45 -0000, "ARWadsworth"
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sweetheart wrote:



One wonders what sort of temperature is maintained in this bungalow, and
whether it was designed as a year round residence.


No, its a brick and clock built 1950's ( 1958 I think) bungalow with cavity
walls. Traditional build for the time. It was coal fired. No gas to the
village. I currently use electric ( fitted with storage heaters by a
predecessor in the 1970's/80 ish) because its easier and frankly isnt
really dearer give the cost of coal ( and I dont have a source of logs -
many in the village chop down a tree when they run short - I am not kidding)
..

The rooms are not constant in heat. The sitting and dining rooms are about
21 degrees. I have to have this to keep my chest from flaring up. I had
pneumonia three years back and I have a weakness on the chest now. The
kitchen I only heat when I go in there. Hence the fan heater. The bedroom
has a storage heater on and is about 18 degrees constant.

Hall, no heat. Bathroom no heat, can be heated when in use ( generally do
not bother.)

The bungalow was double glazed ( wooden frames , now getting rotten) about
1980. Condensation is a feature when heating isn't on 21 degrees. Although
NOW I have cut the heating to the sitting room by one heater and it doesn't
have condensation anymore since I got new patio doors and French windows
fitted ( new double glazing and plastic frames) and I changed the window in
the dining room from single glazed to double glazed. The new units do seem
thicker glass than the old ones.

Is that any use?

( just to make this clear - No, this isn't a park home, it is a country
bungalow on a smallholding)

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I'm also wondering what happened to the patio doors and windows - did
the OP finally chuck her OH through them?


No I didn't chuck him through them. I just ordered up new ones and told him
to shut up. he hasn't stopped moaning about it since but that's another
story I am sure you do not want to hear.

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