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Have you come across women who find it quite endearing that their partner is
hopeless at anything DIY? When I were a lad I felt a certain responsibility to be able to learn to decorate, change fuses, put up shelves, etc. Same with cars - change a wheel, change oil, etc. Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) Regards John |
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Have you come across women who find it quite endearing that their partner is hopeless at anything DIY? When I were a lad I felt a certain responsibility to be able to learn to decorate, change fuses, put up shelves, etc. Same with cars - change a wheel, change oil, etc. Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) Most of the "village blokes" I know round here are generally pretty handy - and know what they specifically don't like to do (eg a bloke I know is a genius with woodwork and building, but always calls in his sparky mate for electrics and won't touch gas or water either). But we are talking about the 35+ age group. The younger ones I know (who are in London because I don't know many 20-somethings here) in seem to know rather less right down to being in that category you mentioned. It's OK to be not very good at a fair few things, but to be completely useless at anything practical is rather sad. -- Tim Watts |
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Owain wrote:
On Jun 4, 10:29 pm, "DerbyBoy" wrote: Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) It helps them feel equal to men because they can't do those things either. They probably can't cook, sew, knit, or plough either. They can go on a SlutWalk. -- Adam |
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On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 12:12:19 +1200, Gib Bogle wrote:
Sounds familiar. It's the little things that don't get done - like changing a tap washer. The reason I leave the little jobs undone, is I'd rather know what she want done, than discover what's next on her secret list ! ;-) |
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On Jun 4, 11:57*pm, Owain wrote:
On Jun 4, 10:29*pm, "DerbyBoy" *wrote: Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) It helps them feel equal to men because they can't do those things either. They probably can't cook, sew, knit, or plough either. Owain As long as they can screw.......who cares? |
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On Jun 5, 6:15*am, Andy Cap wrote:
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 12:12:19 +1200, Gib Bogle wrote: Sounds familiar. *It's the little things that don't get done - like changing a tap washer. The reason I leave the little jobs undone, is I'd rather know what she want done, than discover what's next on her secret list ! * ;-) Ah. My wife has a secret list. I think she thinks it would beb ad for my morale if I knew the length of this list. |
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On Jun 5, 12:25*am, "brass monkey" wrote:
"DerbyBoy" No-one wrote in message ... Have you come across women who find it quite endearing that their partner is hopeless at anything DIY? When I were a lad I felt a certain responsibility to be able to learn to decorate, change fuses, put up shelves, etc. Same with cars - change a wheel, change oil, etc. Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us 300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) I have a slightly different problem. I can pretty much do most things around the house, leccy, plumbing, woodwork, bit of brickwork (crap at plastering). Why should I pay someone to do these things? Cos I can't be arsed to do it myself And since I'm a tightarse I don't pay someone, so the odd sink tap which is hanging off will get sorted "sometime". OT. Q. How was copper wire invented? A. Two Yorkshiremen fighting over a penny. |
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harry wrote:
On Jun 5, 6:15 am, Andy wrote: On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 12:12:19 +1200, Gib wrote: Sounds familiar. It's the little things that don't get done - like changing a tap washer. The reason I leave the little jobs undone, is I'd rather know what she want done, than discover what's next on her secret list ! ;-) Ah. My wife has a secret list. I think she thinks it would beb ad for my morale if I knew the length of this list. Have you noticed how items on the secret list are revealed in the presence of friends say over dinner? As in " Oh we are going to be having a new zxy soon" and this is the first I have heard of the proposal! Bob |
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"Bob Minchin" wrote in message ... harry wrote: On Jun 5, 6:15 am, Andy wrote: On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 12:12:19 +1200, Gib wrote: Sounds familiar. It's the little things that don't get done - like changing a tap washer. The reason I leave the little jobs undone, is I'd rather know what she want done, than discover what's next on her secret list ! ;-) Ah. My wife has a secret list. I think she thinks it would beb ad for my morale if I knew the length of this list. Have you noticed how items on the secret list are revealed in the presence of friends say over dinner? As in " Oh we are going to be having a new zxy soon" and this is the first I have heard of the proposal! Bob That's perfect Bob. You just need to ask her (infront of the guests) to confirm she is happy with the quotes she's arranged for the work! AWEM |
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DerbyBoy wrote:
Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) The last great sin in this country is intelligence; young people particularly (I speak as a 37 YO!) seem to view knowing anything at all technical as risible. -- Scott Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket? |
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On 04/06/2011 23:11, Tim Watts wrote:
DerbyBoy wrote: Have you come across women who find it quite endearing that their partner is hopeless at anything DIY? When I were a lad I felt a certain responsibility to be able to learn to decorate, change fuses, put up shelves, etc. Same with cars - change a wheel, change oil, etc. Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) Most of the "village blokes" I know round here are generally pretty handy - and know what they specifically don't like to do (eg a bloke I know is a genius with woodwork and building, but always calls in his sparky mate for electrics and won't touch gas or water either). I get called in for a lot of basic electric or plumbing jobs - changing light fittings & taps for example - for that very reason. But we are talking about the 35+ age group. The younger ones I know (who are in London because I don't know many 20-somethings here) in seem to know rather less right down to being in that category you mentioned. That I definitely agree with. 20-somethings seem to have no DIY skills whatsoever - apart from my daughters who are pretty capable. It's OK to be not very good at a fair few things, but to be completely useless at anything practical is rather sad. There are a lot of people like that around - thankfully. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 05/06/2011 10:32, Scott M wrote:
DerbyBoy wrote: Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) The last great sin in this country is intelligence; young people particularly (I speak as a 37 YO!) seem to view knowing anything at all technical as risible. And in the ever growing underclass intelligence itself is regarded as risible - instead of something to be proud of. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 05/06/2011 00:25, brass monkey wrote:
"DerbyBoy"No-one wrote in message ... Have you come across women who find it quite endearing that their partner is hopeless at anything DIY? When I were a lad I felt a certain responsibility to be able to learn to decorate, change fuses, put up shelves, etc. Same with cars - change a wheel, change oil, etc. Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) I have a slightly different problem. I can pretty much do most things around the house, leccy, plumbing, woodwork, bit of brickwork (crap at plastering). Why should I pay someone to do these things? Cos I can't be arsed to do it myself And since I'm a tightarse I don't pay someone, so the odd sink tap which is hanging off will get sorted "sometime". 'Projects' are much more interesting than 'little jobs' :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
And in the ever growing underclass intelligence itself is regarded as risible - instead of something to be proud of. It might also have something to do with the dire warnings and endless safety regulations introduced around every relatively simple activity. When every accident is interpreted as a risk to an entire population, with no weight given to the considerable benefits, then inevitably you end up with a populace scared to attempt anything new. We're paying a heavy price for crippling such natural curiosity. |
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On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:54:05 +0100, Andy Cap wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote: And in the ever growing underclass intelligence itself is regarded as risible - instead of something to be proud of. It might also have something to do with the dire warnings and endless safety regulations introduced around every relatively simple activity. When every accident is interpreted as a risk to an entire population, with no weight given to the considerable benefits, then inevitably you end up with a populace scared to attempt anything new. We're paying a heavy price for crippling such natural curiosity. And it makes it less likely that the unintelligent will remove themselves from the gene pool. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 6/5/2011 5:15 PM, Andy Cap wrote:
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 12:12:19 +1200, Gib wrote: Sounds familiar. It's the little things that don't get done - like changing a tap washer. The reason I leave the little jobs undone, is I'd rather know what she want done, than discover what's next on her secret list ! ;-) The secret list, yes! |
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On 05/06/2011 11:39, Guy Dawson wrote:
On 05/06/2011 00:25, brass monkey wrote: (crap at plastering). I believe plastering to be a dark art. Indeed. You must have to sign a pact with the Devil. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 6/5/2011 10:11 AM, Tim Watts wrote:
Most of the "village blokes" I know round here are generally pretty handy - and know what they specifically don't like to do (eg a bloke I know is a genius with woodwork and building, but always calls in his sparky mate for electrics and won't touch gas or water either). But we are talking about the 35+ age group. The younger ones I know (who are in London because I don't know many 20-somethings here) in seem to know rather less right down to being in that category you mentioned. It's OK to be not very good at a fair few things, but to be completely useless at anything practical is rather sad. As necessity is the mother of invention, so affluence is the mother of ignorance. |
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On Jun 5, 6:46 pm, harry wrote:
On Jun 4, 11:57 pm, Owain wrote: On Jun 4, 10:29 pm, "DerbyBoy" wrote: Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) It helps them feel equal to men because they can't do those things either. They probably can't cook, sew, knit, or plough either. Owain As long as they can screw.......who cares? Slot head, Phillips or Pozidriv? |
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On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 07:03:39 -0700, Matty F wrote:
On Jun 5, 6:46 pm, harry wrote: On Jun 4, 11:57 pm, Owain wrote: On Jun 4, 10:29 pm, "DerbyBoy" wrote: Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) It helps them feel equal to men because they can't do those things either. They probably can't cook, sew, knit, or plough either. Owain As long as they can screw.......who cares? Slot head, Phillips or Pozidriv? I couls say something about security Torx and the useful hole up the middle. But I won't. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Jun 5, 12:30*pm, The Medway Handyman
wrote: On 05/06/2011 11:39, Guy Dawson wrote: On 05/06/2011 00:25, brass monkey wrote: (crap at plastering). I believe plastering to be a dark art. Indeed. *You must have to sign a pact with the Devil. -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk It's like welding. You need to be doing it constantly to be any good. |
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On 04/06/2011 23:57, Owain wrote:
On Jun 4, 10:29 pm, "DerbyBoy" wrote: Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) It helps them feel equal to men because they can't do those things either. They probably can't cook, sew, knit, or plough either. To be fair, I don't know that I could use a plough either. Cook, sew, knit, darn and crochet, yes; plough, I've never tried. I did see a woman making a real pig's ear of blacksmithing yesterday though. Colin Bignell |
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message
news DerbyBoy wrote: Have you come across women who find it quite endearing that their partner is hopeless at anything DIY? When I were a lad I felt a certain responsibility to be able to learn to decorate, change fuses, put up shelves, etc. Same with cars - change a wheel, change oil, etc. Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) Most of the "village blokes" I know round here are generally pretty handy - and know what they specifically don't like to do (eg a bloke I know is a genius with woodwork and building, but always calls in his sparky mate for electrics and won't touch gas or water either). But we are talking about the 35+ age group. The younger ones I know (who are in London because I don't know many 20-somethings here) in seem to know rather less right down to being in that category you mentioned. It's OK to be not very good at a fair few things, but to be completely useless at anything practical is rather sad. -- Tim Watts Could the age-dependency be partly due to whether people live in rented accomodation or own houses? Younger people are likely to be living in rented properties, and probably won't need (or be permitted) to do much DIY. Also, they may only have on-street parking, which makes DIY car maintenance more difficult. For me, DIY has become more practical and cost-effective as I've got older, bought a house with a garage and accumulated tools. |
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On 05/06/2011 18:10, Nightjar "cpb"@ insertmysurnamehere wrote:
On 04/06/2011 23:57, Owain wrote: On Jun 4, 10:29 pm, "DerbyBoy" wrote: Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) It helps them feel equal to men because they can't do those things either. They probably can't cook, sew, knit, or plough either. To be fair, I don't know that I could use a plough either. Cook, sew, knit, darn and crochet, yes; plough, I've never tried. I did see a woman making a real pig's ear of blacksmithing yesterday though. Colin Bignell Some years ago, a friend of mine was working away and when he came back he found that his girlfriend had bought some steel, formed some scrollwork and welded up a new bedhead foot end. SteveW |
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On 05/06/2011 22:05, Steve Walker wrote:
On 05/06/2011 18:10, Nightjar "cpb"@ insertmysurnamehere wrote: On 04/06/2011 23:57, Owain wrote: On Jun 4, 10:29 pm, "DerbyBoy" wrote: Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) It helps them feel equal to men because they can't do those things either. They probably can't cook, sew, knit, or plough either. To be fair, I don't know that I could use a plough either. Cook, sew, knit, darn and crochet, yes; plough, I've never tried. I did see a woman making a real pig's ear of blacksmithing yesterday though. Colin Bignell Some years ago, a friend of mine was working away and when he came back he found that his girlfriend had bought some steel, formed some scrollwork and welded up a new bedhead foot end. SteveW That was meant to say bedhead and foor end - what is the foot end called anyway? SteveW |
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Nightjar "cpb"@" "cpb"@" "insertmysurnamehere wrote:
On 04/06/2011 23:57, Owain wrote: On Jun 4, 10:29 pm, "DerbyBoy" wrote: Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) It helps them feel equal to men because they can't do those things either. They probably can't cook, sew, knit, or plough either. To be fair, I don't know that I could use a plough either. Cook, sew, knit, darn and crochet, yes; plough, I've never tried. I did see a woman making a real pig's ear of blacksmithing yesterday though. She nailed a horseshoe to a pigs ear? -- Adam |
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On 05/06/2011 22:10, ARWadsworth wrote:
Nightjar"cpb"@" "cpb"@""insertmysurnamehere wrote: On 04/06/2011 23:57, Owain wrote: On Jun 4, 10:29 pm, "DerbyBoy" wrote: Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) It helps them feel equal to men because they can't do those things either. They probably can't cook, sew, knit, or plough either. To be fair, I don't know that I could use a plough either. Cook, sew, knit, darn and crochet, yes; plough, I've never tried. I did see a woman making a real pig's ear of blacksmithing yesterday though. She nailed a horseshoe to a pigs ear? She was trying to split the end of a piece of steel to make a toasting fork. To do this, she heated the steel, laid it on the hardened face of the anvil, rather than on the soft table where you should chisel stuff, waited for someone else to hold it for her, then she picked up a chisel, carefully laid it into the groove she had made before and tapped the chisel a couple of time. By which time, she had lost all the heat. If she had put a hardy into the tool hole, she could have swung the hot steel around, laid it onto the hardy and hit the steel down onto it with the hammer. Much quicker, less contact with cold metal to drawn the heat away and the energy from the hammer going directly into the workpiece. She should have split the steel in two heats, at most, instead of failing to in the half dozen I saw her try. Colin Bignell |
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Nightjar "cpb"@" "cpb"@" "insertmysurnamehere wrote:
On 05/06/2011 22:10, ARWadsworth wrote: Nightjar"cpb"@" "cpb"@""insertmysurnamehere wrote: On 04/06/2011 23:57, Owain wrote: On Jun 4, 10:29 pm, "DerbyBoy" wrote: Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) It helps them feel equal to men because they can't do those things either. They probably can't cook, sew, knit, or plough either. To be fair, I don't know that I could use a plough either. Cook, sew, knit, darn and crochet, yes; plough, I've never tried. I did see a woman making a real pig's ear of blacksmithing yesterday though. She nailed a horseshoe to a pigs ear? She was trying to split the end of a piece of steel to make a toasting fork. To do this, she heated the steel, laid it on the hardened face of the anvil, rather than on the soft table where you should chisel stuff, waited for someone else to hold it for her, then she picked up a chisel, carefully laid it into the groove she had made before and tapped the chisel a couple of time. By which time, she had lost all the heat. If she had put a hardy into the tool hole, she could have swung the hot steel around, laid it onto the hardy and hit the steel down onto it with the hammer. Much quicker, less contact with cold metal to drawn the heat away and the energy from the hammer going directly into the workpiece. She should have split the steel in two heats, at most, instead of failing to in the half dozen I saw her try. That's women for you. -- Adam |
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On Jun 5, 8:11*pm, "BluntChisel" wrote:
"Tim Watts" wrote in message news DerbyBoy wrote: Have you come across women who find it quite endearing that their partner is hopeless at anything DIY? When I were a lad I felt a certain responsibility to be able to learn to decorate, change fuses, put up shelves, etc. Same with cars - change a wheel, change oil, etc. Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us £300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) Most of the "village blokes" I know round here are generally pretty handy - and know what they specifically don't like to do (eg a bloke I know is a genius with woodwork and building, but always calls in his sparky mate for electrics and won't touch gas or water either). But we are talking about the 35+ age group. The younger ones I know (who are in London because I don't know many 20-somethings here) in seem to know rather less right down to being in that category you mentioned. It's OK to be not very good at a fair few things, but to be completely useless at anything practical is rather sad. -- Tim Watts Could the age-dependency be partly due to whether people live in rented accomodation or own houses? Younger people are likely to be living in rented properties, and probably won't need (or be permitted) to do much DIY. Also, they may only have on-street parking, which makes DIY car maintenance more difficult. For me, DIY has become more practical and cost-effective as I've got older, bought a house with a garage and accumulated tools.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You never see kids playing with car engines these days... |
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On Jun 6, 5:17 pm, harry wrote:
You never see kids playing with car engines these days... I couldn't even find the spark plugs in my car. The supplied manuals didn't say where they were either. Clearly the owner is not meant to know how to change the plugs. |
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in 1046102 20110605 103206 Scott M wrote:
DerbyBoy wrote: Now one hears women talking of how hopeless their partner is in an endearing manner. ("He tried to fit a shelf ant it ended up costing us �300 because he drilled through the water pipe" - laughter all round!) The last great sin in this country is intelligence; young people particularly (I speak as a 37 YO!) seem to view knowing anything at all technical as risible. A fault they share with the chattering classes. |
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On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 00:07:35 -0700 (PDT), Matty F wrote:
You never see kids playing with car engines these days... I couldn't even find the spark plugs in my car. The supplied manuals didn't say where they were either. Clearly the owner is not meant to know how to change the plugs. These days you only change the plugs once or twice in the lifetime of the car, assuming "lifetime" is somewhere between 100,000 and 200,000 miles. Pretty much all you need to do on a routine basis, rather than "when worn", these days is change the oil and oil filter and possibly a fuel filter. The interval for that can be over 20,000 miles, every other interval change the air filter and somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000 miles change the cam timing belt.` Long gone are the days of oil changes and all filters, replacement points and plugs, lube all the grease points, etc every 3,000 miles. B-) -- Cheers Dave. |
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Steve Walker writes: Some years ago, a friend of mine was working away and when he came back he found that his girlfriend had bought some steel, formed some scrollwork and welded up a new bedhead foot end. That's the trouble with plain divan beds - nowhere to tie the partner to... -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message ... In article , Steve Walker writes: Some years ago, a friend of mine was working away and when he came back he found that his girlfriend had bought some steel, formed some scrollwork and welded up a new bedhead foot end. That's the trouble with plain divan beds - nowhere to tie the partner to... You lack imagination. |
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harry writes: On Jun 5, 12:30*pm, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 05/06/2011 11:39, Guy Dawson wrote: On 05/06/2011 00:25, brass monkey wrote: (crap at plastering). I believe plastering to be a dark art. Indeed. *You must have to sign a pact with the Devil. It's like welding. You need to be doing it constantly to be any good. Can't speak for welding, but for plastering, for me it was a matter of being shown, and picking up a few basic techniques on a 2-day course. Actually, only 1 day of this was plastering/rendering, the second day was other wet trades (I chose peddledash) and repairwork. At the end of the first day, all 16 of us were plastering better than the professionals I had hired before (although not as fast). I couldn't plaster at all before, and I know this because I tried;-0. Plastering is excellent for DIY brownie points with your friends, because almost none of them will be able to do it. Come to think of it, I've done 3 different friends' bathrooms now... -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On Jun 6, 8:07*am, Matty F wrote:
On Jun 6, 5:17 pm, harry wrote: You never see kids playing with car engines these days... I couldn't even find the spark plugs in my car. The supplied manuals didn't say where they were either. Clearly the owner is not meant to know how to change the plugs. I know where the spark plugs are. Hard to find anything else....... |
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On Jun 6, 11:13*am, (Andrew Gabriel)
wrote: In article , * * * * harry writes: On Jun 5, 12:30*pm, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 05/06/2011 11:39, Guy Dawson wrote: On 05/06/2011 00:25, brass monkey wrote: (crap at plastering). I believe plastering to be a dark art. Indeed. *You must have to sign a pact with the Devil. It's like welding. You need to be doing it constantly to be any good. Can't speak for welding, but for plastering, for me it was a matter of being shown, and picking up a few basic techniques on a 2-day course. Actually, only 1 day of this was plastering/rendering, the second day was other wet trades (I chose peddledash) and repairwork. At the end of the first day, all 16 of us were plastering better than the professionals I had hired before (although not as fast). I couldn't plaster at all before, and I know this because I tried;-0. Plastering is excellent for DIY brownie points with your friends, because almost none of them will be able to do it. Come to think of it, I've done 3 different friends' bathrooms now... -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] I can do it a bit. From watching proper plasterers. |
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