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How do you use crutches?
Well someone else here must have used them and may be able to help.
I sprained my right foot/ankle 4 days ago and I am now using crutches to help me get around. How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Cheers Adam |
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[Default] On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:44:24 +0100, a certain chimpanzee,
"ARWadsworth" , randomly hit the keyboard and wrote: Well someone else here must have used them and may be able to help. I sprained my right foot/ankle 4 days ago and I am now using crutches to help me get around. How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zjfpdRlbbA -- Hugo Nebula "If no-one on the internet wants a piece of this, just how far from the pack have I strayed"? |
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ARWadsworth wrote:
Well someone else here must have used them and may be able to help. I sprained my right foot/ankle 4 days ago and I am now using crutches to help me get around. How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Cheers Adam Onto the step with both, and transfer weight forward. Not easy apparently. OR use them to prop you up while you out the good leg on the next step. then grab the handrail and use that to haul yourself up and transfer weight onto the good leg and off the crutches. Then pull the crutches up with the spare hand. Alternatively, sleep downstairs for 6 weeks. Seriously. My MIL has crippling arthritis. She takes 20 minutes to get upstairs every night and she has two legs that work. Albeit total agony as they do. My two friends who are paraplegic..nothing works below the waist.. don't even make the attempt. Bungalow/one floor flat living ONLY. I've found it *possible* WITHOUT crutches when I have bashed a toe or something to pull myself up on the handrail by hopping. I hope you don't live alone..if you do, I think you may need some friends in. It depends how much pain you are in and what medical advice you have received, but a sprain alone is not a reason NOT to use a leg. It hurts like sin if you do, of course - you know that, but I think you may be able to get enough use out of it to at least steady yourself without putting serious weight on it. I think the first thing is to understand the 'disabled mentality' which is that some things you thought nothing of, are now serious challenges, and need to be thought out in advance, planned, and executed carefully and rather frustratingly slowly. Thank the stars you are not paraplegic. Faced with crawling face down to something that you can pull yourself up by, if you fall over and lose the crutches. And finally, deepest sympathy - being injured is crap. Just thank someone somewhere that its not permanent. And shove a payment into 'help for heroes' sometime, on the basis that you now know a little of what they go thorough every waking minute of their lives. Best luck, be patient and you will get there. |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember The Natural Philosopher saying something like: Best luck, be patient and you will get there. Have you quite finished? |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "ARWadsworth" saying something like: Well someone else here must have used them and may be able to help. Everybugger's different. Some find that having the affected limb paired with a crutch is the way forward, others find that having the limb opposite the crutch works for them. Either way works, but the hospital will tell you the first way. Going up and down stairs simply needs adapability - you figure it out as you go, it's not rokkit syens, ffs. |
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In article %3H0o.101510$Sl7.82174@hurricane, ARWadsworth
wrote: How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Leave the crutches downstairs. R knee and left foot, with use of hands for balance etc then hobble about upstairs. A little exercise is beneficial -- John Mulrooney NOTE Email address IS correct but might not be checked for a while. No matter how early you arrive, someone else is in line first. |
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How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Very carefully. |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:44:24 +0100, ARWadsworth wrote:
I sprained my right foot/ankle 4 days ago and I am now using crutches to help me get around. How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Didn't the hospital give you lessons? When I broke(*) my ankle a couple of years back they wouldn't let me out with crutches until the phsyios had shown and seen me move on the flat and negotiate stairs, up and down, on crutches. Up: Place both cruches one step above where your feet are, slightly wider than you shoulders apart. Lean forward lift you body with your arms and give a slight hop to get the good foot onto the same step as the crutches. Down: Similar to up, crutches one step below, if anything lean a little back lift your body with your arms and slight hop to lower your good foot onto the same step as the crutches. The work of lifting/lowering most of your body weight is done by your arms. You'll soon end up like popeye. B-) (*) Are you sure it's just a sprain? I was hobbling about on my broken ankle for ten days before one of the nurses that was treating the other injuries got an inkling that it might be broken and sent me off for an x-ray... In some ways I'm glad it wasn't discovered for 10 days, otherwise it would have been surgery and some screws to put the medial malleolus back onto the bottom of the tibia. But after ten days and it not being a mobile or displaced fracture they just left it alone, to do anything would have required breaking what had already healed. So they just stuck a lightweight cast on to stop me moving it too much and make it hard to put any weight on it for a few weeks and an inflatable brace for a few more weeks after the cast came off. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Go up on all fours less the sprained one.
Come down on your bum, with sprained leg crossed. Prepare for the next sprain: Buy an Equine instant ice pack off Ebay, you burst a bag in a bag which makes it go cold. One in the van. Buy an ice gel pack which you leave in your freezer. Sprains follow a path. 1 - injury, then immediate bleeding - get ice on FAST. The faster you get the ice on, the faster you will recover. 2 - stiffness - you need an elasticated bandage. Powerlifter elasticated knee bandages are the best because they have two rubberised sections interwoven with the elastic so they naturally grip when overlapped without having to be tight. That makes a very big difference in that turning over at night does not wake you up with pain, it supports without restricted bloodflow. Normal bandages are crap in comparison. 3 - recovery - load the ankle for 5 mins at a time standing, if pain builds sit down, repeat every 30mins or so. The body adapts, but there is a thin line between adaptation & injury so you want to stay in the adaptation side of it. 4 - re-mobilisation - staying off any joint will result in it becoming stiff making recovery slower & putting load on other areas. When you are young this compensation is not noticed, as you get older it is. Sprains may have a cause. 1 - you may wear one side of your shoes more than another 2 - one leg may be longer than another (not uncommon) 3 - you may have an unknown spinal injury (any history of back problems?) which can result in foot strike not being particular clear re feedback when tired (sciatic nerve) 4 - you may have tight hamstrings (to use their short name) which can increase chance of sprained ankle but also knee loadings The best thing you can do is twice a week swim for 30mins. Swimming involves a fluid in front of & behind limbs - so acts as a natural brake to movement reducing peak loads on joints, ligaments & muscles. It is a wonderful rehab medium. Swimming also, critically, strengths muscles that are not normally used which means they can be compensatory for other problems. Remember when you have any injury the body seeks to compensate, in doing so that can create problems in itself. Swimming is very effective. Humans have not fully adapted to walking on two legs, there are a few hundred thousand years to go yet re L5-Sacrum angles. Some people are several hundred thousand years behind, but they tend to work at Argos. Doing 20 lengths a week twice (or 30min starting out) is quite sufficient, the benefits are very noticeable skeletally, musculatory & circulatory in later life. Medicine is great at giving a **** quality of life for longer :-) Considering your occupation is notorious for injuries, start swimming because it makes a big difference re shoulders, intercostal muscle strength (ribs), knees, ankles & particularly back. Specifically it will improve your "gait" - the way you walk becomes less falling and more controlled muscle motion. You can always spot a well practiced sprinter, because they walk in slow motion with proper pelvic control & balance :-) You can always spot an idle one because when they run they do not lift their knees, usually girls because their mothers screamed "you can keep your bleedin' legs together even when you run you tart!". |
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ARWadsworth wrote:
Well someone else here must have used them and may be able to help. I sprained my right foot/ankle 4 days ago and I am now using crutches to help me get around. How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Cheers Adam Sideways with only one stick or on your bum. BTAGTTS more then ones. \0 |
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In article , The Natural Philosopher
scribeth thus ARWadsworth wrote: Well someone else here must have used them and may be able to help. I sprained my right foot/ankle 4 days ago and I am now using crutches to help me get around. How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? You DON'T !.... Unless you want some more broken bits to add to those you've got!... Cheers Adam Onto the step with both, and transfer weight forward. Not easy apparently. OR use them to prop you up while you out the good leg on the next step. then grab the handrail and use that to haul yourself up and transfer weight onto the good leg and off the crutches. Then pull the crutches up with the spare hand. Alternatively, sleep downstairs for 6 weeks. Seriously. My MIL has crippling arthritis. She takes 20 minutes to get upstairs every night and she has two legs that work. Albeit total agony as they do. Poor old soul, give her my best regards from a fellow "Arthur" suffer tho not as bad that that yet;!.. Yes when I was laid up last year with a broken Femur that was the best option, downstairs. After that wheelchair and then Zimmer frame and then the crutches, 'tho I could NEVER get on with the ones under the armpits the elbow ones were far more successful... Getting up the stairs was a PITA literally!, and rather awkward took quite some time it did and never felt that it was something I wanted to do alone in the house either.. My two friends who are paraplegic..nothing works below the waist.. don't even make the attempt. Bungalow/one floor flat living ONLY. I've found it *possible* WITHOUT crutches when I have bashed a toe or something to pull myself up on the handrail by hopping. I hope you don't live alone..if you do, I think you may need some friends in. It depends how much pain you are in and what medical advice you have received, but a sprain alone is not a reason NOT to use a leg. It hurts like sin if you do, of course - you know that, but I think you may be able to get enough use out of it to at least steady yourself without putting serious weight on it. I think the first thing is to understand the 'disabled mentality' which is that some things you thought nothing of, are now serious challenges, and need to be thought out in advance, planned, and executed carefully and rather frustratingly slowly. Thank the stars you are not paraplegic. Faced with crawling face down to something that you can pull yourself up by, if you fall over and lose the crutches. And finally, deepest sympathy - being injured is crap. Just thank someone somewhere that its not permanent. And shove a payment into 'help for heroes' sometime, on the basis that you now know a little of what they go thorough every waking minute of their lives. Best luck, be patient and you will get there. Second that.. -- Tony Sayer |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:44:24 +0100, ARWadsworth wrote: I sprained my right foot/ankle 4 days ago and I am now using crutches to help me get around. How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Didn't the hospital give you lessons? When I broke(*) my ankle a couple of years back they wouldn't let me out with crutches until the phsyios had shown and seen me move on the flat and negotiate stairs, up and down, on crutches. I have not been to hospital. Up: Place both cruches one step above where your feet are, slightly wider than you shoulders apart. Lean forward lift you body with your arms and give a slight hop to get the good foot onto the same step as the crutches. Down: Similar to up, crutches one step below, if anything lean a little back lift your body with your arms and slight hop to lower your good foot onto the same step as the crutches. That seems to work The work of lifting/lowering most of your body weight is done by your arms. You'll soon end up like popeye. B-) (*) Are you sure it's just a sprain? No. Cheers Adam |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:44:24 +0100, ARWadsworth wrote: I sprained my right foot/ankle 4 days ago and I am now using crutches to help me get around. How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Didn't the hospital give you lessons? When I broke(*) my ankle a couple of years back they wouldn't let me out with crutches until the phsyios had shown and seen me move on the flat and negotiate stairs, up and down, on crutches. I have not been to hospital. Up: Place both cruches one step above where your feet are, slightly wider than you shoulders apart. Lean forward lift you body with your arms and give a slight hop to get the good foot onto the same step as the crutches. Down: Similar to up, crutches one step below, if anything lean a little back lift your body with your arms and slight hop to lower your good foot onto the same step as the crutches. That seems to work The work of lifting/lowering most of your body weight is done by your arms. You'll soon end up like popeye. B-) (*) Are you sure it's just a sprain? No. So who gave you the crutches then? We pay 36 billion a year for the NHS. £500 a year for every man woman and child. Might as well get your moneys worth. Get an X-ray. And experience more radiation in a second than you get from the entire global nuclear power industry in a year! (including Chernobyl) Cheers Adam |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:38:09 +0100, ARWadsworth wrote:
I have not been to hospital. So where did the crutches come from? Have you been shown or told the correct length/height for them, that makes quite a difference to how easy they are to use and it's not quite as intuative as one might think. That seems to work For got to add make sure the crutches are firmly placed on a secure surface (any lose rugs get rid of 'em!) and that the load is near vertical. (*) Are you sure it's just a sprain? No. Get yourself off to hospital and get an x-ray. I didn't think I'd broken mine but the medial malleolus was completely detached from the bottom of the tibia. If your wondering what the medial malleolus is, it's the bony sticky out bit on the inside of your ankle. -- Cheers Dave. |
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In article o.uk,
"Dave Liquorice" writes: (*) Are you sure it's just a sprain? I was hobbling about on my broken ankle for ten days before one of the nurses that was treating the other injuries got an inkling that it might be broken and sent me off for an x-ray... Something similar happened to a work colleague 25 years ago. He and his wife had booked a long holiday in some slightly 3rd world location I don't recall, for which he'd saved up 2 years worth of leave to take consecutively. First couple of days of his holiday was actually preparation and shopping prior to departure. During the shopping, he stepped off a kerb and badly twisted his ankle. Spent next several hours in A&E, where it was checked, X-rayed, etc, and he was sent home with pain killers for a sprain. Anyway, off they went on holday, him hobbling. After another couple of days on holiday, he still couldn't walk and ended up in a wheel chair, which he spent most of the holiday in. When they eventually arrived home, they were greeted with a letter from the hospital which had been sitting on the doormat all the time they were away, saying the X-ray had been misread, and he had a broken ankle. Anyway, that meant they could write off the holiday as sick leave and claim on the holiday insurance, and a few months later, they took it again. I don't recall if any more treatment was applied to the ankle - I imagine it would have healed by itself after that length of time. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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In article ,
"js.b1" writes: Buy an ice gel pack which you leave in your freezer. A large bag of frozen peas works very well too. If you are out when it happens, you might be able to pop in to a local shop and buy one. (Once thawed, don't eat the peas though - they go off very fast when they start warming up.) -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On 18 July, 18:44, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: Well someone else here must have used them and may be able to help. I sprained my right foot/ankle 4 days ago and I am now using crutches to help me get around. How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Cheers Adam When I was given crutches by a hospital in the 80s they taught me: "Bad foot first down to hell, good foot first up to heaven". Can't quite remember how the crutches fit into this, but it seemed to work at the time. Be aware that the current advice may be different and my memory ain't what it used to be! |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... ARWadsworth wrote: "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:44:24 +0100, ARWadsworth wrote: I sprained my right foot/ankle 4 days ago and I am now using crutches to help me get around. How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Didn't the hospital give you lessons? When I broke(*) my ankle a couple of years back they wouldn't let me out with crutches until the phsyios had shown and seen me move on the flat and negotiate stairs, up and down, on crutches. I have not been to hospital. Up: Place both cruches one step above where your feet are, slightly wider than you shoulders apart. Lean forward lift you body with your arms and give a slight hop to get the good foot onto the same step as the crutches. Down: Similar to up, crutches one step below, if anything lean a little back lift your body with your arms and slight hop to lower your good foot onto the same step as the crutches. That seems to work The work of lifting/lowering most of your body weight is done by your arms. You'll soon end up like popeye. B-) (*) Are you sure it's just a sprain? No. So who gave you the crutches then? A neighbour whose son had sprained an ankle a few weeks ago! I offered to drop them back at the hospital for him as I have already got an appointment there on Tuesday. We pay 36 billion a year for the NHS. £500 a year for every man woman and child. Might as well get your moneys worth. Get an X-ray. And experience more radiation in a second than you get from the entire global nuclear power industry in a year! (including Chernobyl) I have had 3 X-rays of my teeth already this year:-( The swelling is going down and so is the amount of pain. Lots of nice brusing. Adam |
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On Jul 18, 10:56*pm, "js.b1" wrote:
Go up on all fours less the sprained one. Come down on your bum, with sprained leg crossed. Prepare for the next sprain: Buy an Equine instant ice pack off Ebay, you burst a bag in a bag which makes it go cold. One in the van. Buy an ice gel pack which you leave in your freezer. Sprains follow a path. 1 - injury, then immediate bleeding - get ice on FAST. The faster you get the ice on, the faster you will recover. 2 - stiffness - you need an elasticated bandage. Powerlifter elasticated knee bandages are the best because they have two rubberised sections interwoven with the elastic so they naturally grip when overlapped without having to be tight. That makes a very big difference in that turning over at night does not wake you up with pain, it supports without restricted bloodflow. Normal bandages are crap in comparison. 3 - recovery - load the ankle for 5 mins at a time standing, if pain builds sit down, repeat every 30mins or so. The body adapts, but there is a thin line between adaptation & injury so you want to stay in the adaptation side of it. 4 - re-mobilisation - staying off any joint will result in it becoming stiff making recovery slower & putting load on other areas. When you are young this compensation is not noticed, as you get older it is. Sprains may have a cause. 1 - you may wear one side of your shoes more than another 2 - one leg may be longer than another (not uncommon) 3 - you may have an unknown spinal injury (any history of back problems?) which can result in foot strike not being particular clear re feedback when tired (sciatic nerve) 4 - you may have tight hamstrings (to use their short name) which can increase chance of sprained ankle but also knee loadings The best thing you can do is twice a week swim for 30mins. Swimming involves a fluid in front of & behind limbs - so acts as a natural brake to movement reducing peak loads on joints, ligaments & muscles. It is a wonderful rehab medium. Swimming also, critically, strengths muscles that are not normally used which means they can be compensatory for other problems. Remember when you have any injury the body seeks to compensate, in doing so that can create problems in itself. Swimming is very effective. Humans have not fully adapted to walking on two legs, there are a few hundred thousand years to go yet re L5-Sacrum angles. Some people are several hundred thousand years behind, but they tend to work at Argos. Doing 20 lengths a week twice (or 30min starting out) is quite sufficient, the benefits are very noticeable skeletally, musculatory & circulatory in later life. Medicine is great at giving a **** quality of life for longer :-) Considering your occupation is notorious for injuries, start swimming because it makes a big difference re shoulders, intercostal muscle strength (ribs), knees, ankles & particularly back. Specifically it will improve your "gait" - the way you walk becomes less falling and more controlled muscle motion. You can always spot a well practiced sprinter, because they walk in slow motion with proper pelvic control & balance :-) You can always spot an idle one because when they run they do not lift their knees, usually girls because their mothers screamed "you can keep your bleedin' legs together even when you run you tart!". As someone else said, are you finished yet? Are these imponerably long replies some kind of ego trip? MBQ |
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On 18 July, 18:44, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: Well someone else here must have used them and may be able to help. I sprained my right foot/ankle 4 days ago and I am now using crutches to help me get around. How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Cheers Adam A close friend's wife had a knee replacement op on this past Wednesday - cut the knee open and S/S inserts top and bottom, etc. (without general aneasthetic). Home on Saturday, out walking with sticks - not crutches - for 15 mins on Sunday in the local park. Stairs are no problem it seems. Don't be a woose :) . I suspect that ironically a bad sprain is possible more painful. My wife went over a step some years back and the ankle swelled up enormously; she went to A & E, checked it over and signed her up for immediate physio which was great rehabilitation. Rob |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... ARWadsworth wrote: Well someone else here must have used them and may be able to help. I sprained my right foot/ankle 4 days ago and I am now using crutches to help me get around. How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Cheers Adam I hope you don't live alone..if you do, I think you may need some friends in. I do live alone. However the girlfiend only lives two streets away and my next door neighbour has done my shopping for me! And finally, deepest sympathy - being injured is crap. Just thank someone somewhere that its not permanent. And shove a payment into 'help for heroes' sometime, on the basis that you now know a little of what they go thorough every waking minute of their lives. Best luck, be patient and you will get there. Thanks Adam |
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"Owain" wrote in message ... On 19 July, 13:04, "ARWadsworth" wrote: I do live alone. However the girlfiend only lives two streets away and my next door neighbour has done my shopping for me! Is that out of sympathy, or fear ;-) Owain No bad neighbours on my street since the dickheads moved out. The one that did the shopping for me was the one that last year posted his house key and a note asking me to feed his cat as he had chopped a finger off:-) Cheers Adam |
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"ARWadsworth" wrote in message news:%3H0o.101510$Sl7.82174@hurricane... Well someone else here must have used them and may be able to help. I sprained my right foot/ankle 4 days ago and I am now using crutches to help me get around. How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? one crutch only - on bad leg side ... bad leg first going down, good leg first going up ..... hold on to banister |
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ARWadsworth wrote: "Dave Liquorice" wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Didn't the hospital give you lessons? I have not been to hospital. So who gave you the crutches then? http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Simple-Crutches |
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How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Sit on 2nd bottom step. Put good leg on bottom step, hands on 4th step, lift bum to third step. When you get to top shout for wife to bring crutches. Or bring them with you, but it'll be clumsy. You should be OK doing that with a sprain that hurts with weight. Andy |
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"ARWadsworth" wrote in message news:%3H0o.101510$Sl7.82174@hurricane... Well someone else here must have used them and may be able to help. I sprained my right foot/ankle 4 days ago and I am now using crutches to help me get around. How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Don't tell me matey found out who put that car outside his house ;o) Seriously though, I hope it clears up quickly. -- Tinkerer |
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How do you use crutches?
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In message , Andy Burns writes The Natural Philosopher wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: "Dave Liquorice" wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Didn't the hospital give you lessons? I have not been to hospital. So who gave you the crutches then? http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Simple-Crutches Doesn't that require a certain amount of mobility in order to create them? I have my crutches up in the loft - from a skiing accident 25 years ago How are you going to get them when you next need them? |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Champ saying something like: I have my crutches up in the loft - from a skiing accident 25 years ago Please give to the NHS. Or return them, as the case may be. A little off our tax bills! Those days are gone. H&S fears means they chuck them in the skip. |
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writes geoff wrote: I have my crutches up in the loft - from a skiing accident 25 years ago Please give to the NHS. Or return them, as the case may be. A little off our tax bills! Bought them in Austria I'm hanging on to them, as I shall need another knee op in the near future I really don't think there's a mechanism for taking them back After my father died, there were various items - catheters etc which my mother tried taking back to the hospital (still sealed and boxed up) - they weren't interested -- geoff |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:04:38 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Gabriel wrote:
(*) Are you sure it's just a sprain? I was hobbling about on my broken ankle for ten days before one of the nurses that was treating the other injuries got an inkling that it might be broken and sent me off for an x-ray... When they eventually arrived home, they were greeted with a letter from the hospital which had been sitting on the doormat all the time they were away, saying the X-ray had been misread, and he had a broken ankle. Nasty. I think I would have been jumping up and down to sue the hospital for something. No chance of that with my x-ray, the one taken side on looked OK, until you spotted the tiny chips of bone at the impact site but the one taken looking from the toes to ankle even I could see the fracture when I was 6' from the light box. IIRC I said to the radiographer "That's not supposed to be like that is it?"... I don't recall if any more treatment was applied to the ankle - I imagine it would have healed by itself after that length of time. One can only assume it was a small hairline fracture and that is why it was missed, still not an excuse though. If they had been away for even a week or two that would have been too long to do much. Assuming 4 or 6 weeks then it'll have almost completely healed. -- Cheers Dave. |
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In message _Q31o.3$ja2.0@hurricane, Clot writes
geoff wrote: In message , Andy Burns writes The Natural Philosopher wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: "Dave Liquorice" wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Didn't the hospital give you lessons? I have not been to hospital. So who gave you the crutches then? http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Simple-Crutches Doesn't that require a certain amount of mobility in order to create them? I have my crutches up in the loft - from a skiing accident 25 years ago How are you going to get them when you next need them? I'll ask Adam how to climb stairs when you're a crip - he'll be an expert by then or ... send the missus up to get them -- geoff |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:06:24 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
Please give to the NHS. Or return them, as the case may be. A little off our tax bills! Those days are gone. H&S fears means they chuck them in the skip. Aye, I took the ones I had back but it was clear they didn't really know what to do with them. I can understand the H&S aspect as they don't know what sort of treatment they have had but I should imagine that it can't be that hard to send them to a place that checks 'em over and refurbishes for re-use. Or even if they don't want to do that, collect for the scrap ali and recycle them that way. -- Cheers Dave. |
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geoff wrote:
In message _Q31o.3$ja2.0@hurricane, Clot writes geoff wrote: In message , Andy Burns writes The Natural Philosopher wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: "Dave Liquorice" wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Didn't the hospital give you lessons? I have not been to hospital. So who gave you the crutches then? http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Simple-Crutches Doesn't that require a certain amount of mobility in order to create them? I have my crutches up in the loft - from a skiing accident 25 years ago How are you going to get them when you next need them? I'll ask Adam how to climb stairs when you're a crip - he'll be an expert by then that caused me some mirth or ... send the missus up to get them |
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geoff wrote:
In message _Q31o.3$ja2.0@hurricane, Clot writes geoff wrote: In message , Andy Burns writes The Natural Philosopher wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: "Dave Liquorice" wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Didn't the hospital give you lessons? I have not been to hospital. So who gave you the crutches then? http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Simple-Crutches Doesn't that require a certain amount of mobility in order to create them? I have my crutches up in the loft - from a skiing accident 25 years ago How are you going to get them when you next need them? I'll ask Adam how to climb stairs when you're a crip - he'll be an expert by then that caused me some mirth or ... send the missus up to get them |
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Clot wrote:
geoff wrote: In message _Q31o.3$ja2.0@hurricane, Clot writes geoff wrote: In message , Andy Burns writes The Natural Philosopher wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: "Dave Liquorice" wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: How are you supposed to use them to get up and down the stairs? Didn't the hospital give you lessons? I have not been to hospital. So who gave you the crutches then? http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Simple-Crutches Doesn't that require a certain amount of mobility in order to create them? I have my crutches up in the loft - from a skiing accident 25 years ago How are you going to get them when you next need them? I'll ask Adam how to climb stairs when you're a crip - he'll be an expert by then that caused me some mirth Hmm? Sorry about the echo. And also apologies to you Adam at having a laugh at your expense! |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dave Liquorice" saying something like: On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:06:24 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: Please give to the NHS. Or return them, as the case may be. A little off our tax bills! Those days are gone. H&S fears means they chuck them in the skip. Aye, I took the ones I had back but it was clear they didn't really know what to do with them. I can understand the H&S aspect as they don't know what sort of treatment they have had but I should imagine that it can't be that hard to send them to a place that checks 'em over and refurbishes for re-use. Or even if they don't want to do that, collect for the scrap ali and recycle them that way. It's absolutely mental. I distinctly recall my first big bike accident and the crutches that came with it. I was encouraged to hand them back, as they would be checked and re-issued. That was back in the days when such things were normal. |