[Fred]

Hi,

I was reading some very old posts on this group and someone mentioned
sandable caulk and how it was much better than the modern stuff. I see
Toolstation list Vallance caulk:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhe.../sd2350/p61539

Which claims to be sandable. I've ordered a tube but there's nothing
on the tube to say it is sandable. Is the description on the TS web
site wrong? Has anyone used this, is it any good?

And a daft question but how do you say "caulk". I've heard people call
it "cork" and others call it "chalk". Which is right?

TIA

[Jim K[_2_]]

On 16 July, 10:51, Fred wrote:
Hi,

I was reading some very old posts on this group and someone mentioned
sandable caulk and how it was much better than the modern stuff. I see
Toolstation list Vallance caulk:http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhe...ants/Vallance+...

Which claims to be sandable. I've ordered a tube but there's nothing
on the tube to say it is sandable. Is the description on the TS web
site wrong? Has anyone used this, is it any good?

And a daft question but how do you say "caulk". I've heard people call
it "cork" and others call it "chalk". Which is right?

TIA

"caurk"
cau as in caught - rest as cork

Jim K

[Andy Burns[_7_]]

Jim K wrote:

cau as in caught - rest as cork

Interesting, the "cau" in caught *is* the same as "cor" in cork AFAIC

[teamhillside]

On Jul 16, 1:25*pm, Andy Burns wrote:
Jim K wrote:
cau as in caught - rest as cork

Interesting, the "cau" in caught *is* the same as "cor" in cork AFAIC

Yup, same as I say it too - Jim, how do you say "caught"?!

Matt

[The Natural Philosopher[_2_]]

Andy Burns wrote:
Jim K wrote:

cau as in caught - rest as cork

Interesting, the "cau" in caught *is* the same as "cor" in cork AFAIC

in some regional accents it is, in some it isn't.

[The Natural Philosopher[_2_]]

teamhillside wrote:
On Jul 16, 1:25 pm, Andy Burns wrote:
Jim K wrote:
cau as in caught - rest as cork
Interesting, the "cau" in caught *is* the same as "cor" in cork AFAIC

Yup, same as I say it too - Jim, how do you say "caught"?!

Matt
Catched?

[Jim K[_2_]]

On 16 July, 13:25, Andy Burns wrote:
Jim K wrote:
cau as in caught - rest as cork

Interesting, the "cau" in caught *is* the same as "cor" in cork AFAIC

in your accent it may well be

[Phil L]

Fred wrote:
Hi,

I was reading some very old posts on this group and someone mentioned
sandable caulk and how it was much better than the modern stuff. I see
Toolstation list Vallance caulk:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhe.../sd2350/p61539

Which claims to be sandable. I've ordered a tube but there's nothing
on the tube to say it is sandable. Is the description on the TS web
site wrong? Has anyone used this, is it any good?

And a daft question but how do you say "caulk". I've heard people call
it "cork" and others call it "chalk". Which is right?

TIA

It's pronounced 'cork'.

I've never come across sandable caulk - it usually dries slightly rubbery in
texture, although I have used water to 'rub' it down prior to setting, IE
along skirtings etc, just go along with the caulking gun as usual, then use
a 1 inch brush and water to lightly take off any lumps etc and a smooth
finish is easily acheived.

On a related note, you can buy a grouting gun and use ordinary all purpose
filler if you need something sandable.
These guns are worth their weight in gold and I have used them for pointing
paving, but they are sold with several different sized nozzles and they are
used for grouting tiles, pointing brickwork etc.
They cot about £20 but as I said, they are worth their weight in gold. they
are very similar to a normal sealant gun, except the tube is simply a piece
of 3 inch plastic drainpipe and the nozzle fits tightly on the end, the
plunger has an adjustable rubber seal, so that if you are using something
like grout, which is very fine and also quite wet, the seal needs to be
fairly tight, if you are using sand/cement, the seal can be looosened off
making it easier to pull the trigger.
Never used one for grouting tiles but I know a few people who use them
regularly and they wouldn't dream of doing it any other way now, there are
too many pro's to list but here's a few: you can mix enough grout to do a
full bathroom without risk of it setting, it's more economical because 90%
of what you mix ends up between the tiles rather than on a sponge, there's
less work involved, it's ten times quicker, it's neater and less grout needs
cleaning off the tiles.

--
Phil L
RSRL Tipster Of The Year 2008

[Peter Johnson]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:23:53 +0100, "Phil L"
wrote:


It's pronounced 'cork'.

Really? When I used to sell it me, my colleagues and most of the
customers called it caulk.

[Phil L]

Peter Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:23:53 +0100, "Phil L"
wrote:


It's pronounced 'cork'.

Really? When I used to sell it me, my colleagues and most of the
customers called it caulk.

Yep me too, the 'L' is silent, like in chalk, or the 'P' in bath.

--
Phil L
RSRL Tipster Of The Year 2008

[The Medway Handyman[_2_]]

Fred wrote:
Hi,

I was reading some very old posts on this group and someone mentioned
sandable caulk and how it was much better than the modern stuff. I see
Toolstation list Vallance caulk:
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhe.../sd2350/p61539

Which claims to be sandable. I've ordered a tube but there's nothing
on the tube to say it is sandable. Is the description on the TS web
site wrong? Has anyone used this, is it any good?

No, but surely the point of caulk is thats its flexible? The flexibilty
would prevent sanding?

And a daft question but how do you say "caulk". I've heard people call
it "cork" and others call it "chalk". Which is right?


Calk as in walk IMO.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

[Fred]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:23:53 +0100, "Phil L"
wrote:

It's pronounced 'cork'.

That seems to be the consensus here, I think, which is good because
that's what I say too

I've never come across sandable caulk

Neither had I. I was reading some very old posts from this group (I
had downloaded all headers and hadn't paid attention to their dates)
and a post mentioned how rare and how good it was.

it usually dries slightly rubbery in texture

That's been my experience too. I've bought a tube to see.In the worst
case, it can only turn out to be non-sandabale and be "ordinary"
caulk.

I have used water to 'rub' it down prior to setting, IE along skirtings etc,
just go along with the caulking gun as usual, then use
a 1 inch brush and water to lightly take off any lumps etc and a smooth
finish is easily acheived.

A good tip to know, thanks.

On a related note, you can buy a grouting gun and use ordinary all purpose
filler if you need something sandable.
These guns are worth their weight in gold and I have used them for pointing
paving, but they are sold with several different sized nozzles and they are
used for grouting tiles, pointing brickwork etc.

Grouting tiles. I hate that job. Never manage to get it where I want
it to go. Always over the tiles; never in the gaps! I might buy one
just for that

I had seen them advertised for pointing but never knew about using
them for grout. I suppose it could be useful for pointing too, rather
than having to push the mortar in with a trowel, though I suppose some
trowel work is still needed if just to finish it?

Thanks!

[Fred]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:33:45 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

Round these parts the L in chalk is not silent but is voiced with an
"ulk" or "alk" sound at the end. (like in "walk" - but perhaps that
varies regionally as well)

I thought caulk was "cork" but now I'm getting confused again

I say "chaulk" as "chore-k" and "walk" as "war-k", no Ls involved, but
that's just me. Do you say "wall-k"? I better not ask how you say
glass and bath, that might start a war!

[Steve Firth]

Fred wrote:

I was reading some very old posts on this group and someone mentioned
sandable caulk and how it was much better than the modern stuff.

On boats the sandable caulk used is Sikaflex, particularly for caulking
decks and below the waterline. I'm not sure if this is what you have in
mind.

[Phil L]

Fred wrote:

I had seen them advertised for pointing but never knew about using
them for grout. I suppose it could be useful for pointing too, rather
than having to push the mortar in with a trowel, though I suppose some
trowel work is still needed if just to finish it?


I've not used one for pointing brickwork yet but I'm itching to.
They are a bit fiddly to get the consistency of the mortar right, it has to
be fairly wet and contain lots of plasticiser, otherwise the water squeezes
out of it behind the plunger and you end up with half a pint of cementy
water splashing about, but I've pointed a few patios with them recently and
it's much faster and gives a much better finish them trying to do it by
hand - the mortar, being wet, goes right to the bottom of the joint and
adheres well to both sides, 'dry' pointing tends to crack after a fairly
short while allowing ants to make matters worse and then weed seeds to take
hold, which push the slabs even further apart.

It will require trowelling over yes, because all it does is apply the mortar
in a uniform bead, you'd have to do a few metres and allow the moisture to
soak away before trowelling, or using a rounded jointing tool




--
Phil L
RSRL Tipster Of The Year 2008

[Jim K[_2_]]

On 17 July, 11:45, (Steve Firth) wrote:
Fred wrote:
I was reading some very old posts on this group and someone mentioned
sandable caulk and how it was much better than the modern stuff.

On boats the sandable caulk used is Sikaflex, particularly for caulking
decks and below the waterline. I'm not sure if this is what you have in
mind.

is that the polyurethane based impossibly sticky (til "dried") stuff?

used something similar to seal frame joints on our hardwood
conservatory - very impressive too..

Cheers
Jim K

[Steve Firth]

Jim K wrote:

On boats the sandable caulk used is Sikaflex, particularly for caulking
decks and below the waterline. I'm not sure if this is what you have in
mind.

is that the polyurethane based impossibly sticky (til "dried") stuff?

Yes, that's it.

used something similar to seal frame joints on our hardwood
conservatory - very impressive too..

It is, and once it has cured it can be sanded just like wood. It's used
to make fake teak and holly inlay decks or simply to caulk joints in
decks. Once sanded it's difficult to tell that it is a caulk.

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Burns
saying something like:

Jim K wrote:

cau as in caught - rest as cork

Interesting, the "cau" in caught *is* the same as "cor" in cork AFAIC

I fort I sawr a puddycart.

[Jim K[_2_]]

On 17 July, 22:11, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Burns
saying something like:

Jim K wrote:

cau as in caught - rest as cork

Interesting, the "cau" in caught *is* the same as "cor" in cork AFAIC

I fort I sawr a puddycart.

I halve a spilling chequer

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman"
saying something like:

Calk as in walk IMO.

Frankly, that sounds like cock.

[The Natural Philosopher[_2_]]

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman"
saying something like:

Calk as in walk IMO.

Frankly, that sounds like cock.
no, sock sounds like cock

[Fred]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:19:29 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:

No, but surely the point of caulk is thats its flexible? The flexibilty
would prevent sanding?

That's what I had thought but the old thread said it was wonderful,
which surprised me because sometimes one product that tries to do two
things is not as good as two products each doing different things.
I've bought a tube but don't have anything to use it on yet! Time will
tell.