[whiskeyomega]

It never rains but pours in this house.

My dishwasher has tipped its water onto the floor instead of pumping out
down the drain.
This is because something is broken.

I sent for the repair man ( its insured) . I was told on the phone that the
problem was because I was not using a lime scale remover and so the
dishwasher had corroded.

It might be true its corroded or something , like a seal on the bottom
where the water drains has gone porous ( I know because it has fallen off in
two pieces and the dishwasher is a bit rusty but its 11 years old).

I have been told I have to buy and use this lime scale stuff when the repair
man comes.

I don't want to sound daft, but we have very water where I live. Nothing
else furs up , why should the dishwasher?

I just put the problem down to old age of the machine. It went wrong about
two years ago when the suppressor broke.

Should I just pay the £11 for this stuff and shut up?

Oh, and will it be OK down my septic tank?

[John]

"whiskeyomega" wrote in message
...
It never rains but pours in this house.

My dishwasher has tipped its water onto the floor instead of pumping out
down the drain.
This is because something is broken.

I sent for the repair man ( its insured) . I was told on the phone that
the problem was because I was not using a lime scale remover and so the
dishwasher had corroded.

It might be true its corroded or something , like a seal on the bottom
where the water drains has gone porous ( I know because it has fallen off
in two pieces and the dishwasher is a bit rusty but its 11 years old).

I have been told I have to buy and use this lime scale stuff when the
repair man comes.

I don't want to sound daft, but we have very water where I live. Nothing
else furs up , why should the dishwasher?

I just put the problem down to old age of the machine. It went wrong about
two years ago when the suppressor broke.

Should I just pay the £11 for this stuff and shut up?

Oh, and will it be OK down my septic tank?

Sounds a bit of a con - At 11 years old perhaps time for a new one - if
there is known corrosion then it will only get worse.

[Graham.[_2_]]

"whiskeyomega" wrote in message ...
It never rains but pours in this house.

My dishwasher has tipped its water onto the floor instead of pumping out down the drain.
This is because something is broken.

I sent for the repair man ( its insured) . I was told on the phone that the problem was because I was not using a lime scale
remover and so the dishwasher had corroded.

It might be true its corroded or something , like a seal on the bottom where the water drains has gone porous ( I know because it
has fallen off in two pieces and the dishwasher is a bit rusty but its 11 years old).

I have been told I have to buy and use this lime scale stuff when the repair man comes.

I don't want to sound daft, but we have very water where I live. Nothing else furs up , why should the dishwasher?

I just put the problem down to old age of the machine. It went wrong about two years ago when the suppressor broke.

Should I just pay the £11 for this stuff and shut up?

Oh, and will it be OK down my septic tank?

Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required. Mind you, I bought several bags of it the other day from Tesco
at 38 pence/kg to sprinkle on my icy driveway.

So what's this £11 stuff then?


--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

[Lobster]

Graham. wrote:

Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required.

Mm. But presumably people must be buying it, and if one supermarket
didn't stock it then the (dozy) punters would just go down the road and
buy it elsewhere. So can't really blame the retailers!

David

[The Natural Philosopher[_2_]]

whiskeyomega wrote:
It never rains but pours in this house.

My dishwasher has tipped its water onto the floor instead of pumping out
down the drain.
This is because something is broken.


So hasd mine. Its its third strike. Its out. Miele in!

I sent for the repair man ( its insured) . I was told on the phone that
the problem was because I was not using a lime scale remover and so the
dishwasher had corroded.


Bull****. I run on softened water.

It might be true its corroded or something , like a seal on the bottom
where the water drains has gone porous ( I know because it has fallen
off in two pieces and the dishwasher is a bit rusty but its 11 years old).

I have been told I have to buy and use this lime scale stuff when the
repair man comes.

I don't want to sound daft, but we have very water where I live. Nothing
else furs up , why should the dishwasher?

Its a ****ing excuse iniit.


I just put the problem down to old age of the machine. It went wrong
about two years ago when the suppressor broke.

Should I just pay the £11 for this stuff and shut up?

Oh, and will it be OK down my septic tank?

yes, but don't worry, it ain't the problem.

[Steve Walker]

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:07:35 +0000, Lobster wrote:

Graham. wrote:

Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required.

Mm. But presumably people must be buying it, and if one supermarket
didn't stock it then the (dozy) punters would just go down the road and
buy it elsewhere. So can't really blame the retailers!

David

I live in the Manchester area too and I laugh when every so often they run
adverts for Calgon on Granada, which is of course itself based in
Manchester!

SteveW

[whiskeyomega]

"Steve Walker" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:07:35 +0000, Lobster wrote:

Graham. wrote:

Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required.

Mm. But presumably people must be buying it, and if one supermarket
didn't stock it then the (dozy) punters would just go down the road and
buy it elsewhere. So can't really blame the retailers!

David

I live in the Manchester area too and I laugh when every so often they run
adverts for Calgon on Granada, which is of course itself based in
Manchester!

When the man came he said it was like Calgon but that given we were soft
water here we didnt need it and really the thing that went wrong with the
machine was a seal wore out. He replaced it.

[Dave Liquorice[_2_]]

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:05:21 -0000, Graham. wrote:

So what's this £11 stuff then?

Not salt but a descaler. As the OPs water is soft, nothing furs up,
then they don't need a descaler. Insurance company trying to wriggle
out of coughing up either now in the future. Unless there is a
condition to use this product is in the terms & conditions of the
policy they don't have a leg to stand on if they wish to chnage the
T&C's to include it then I wouldn't renew or negociate a reduction in
the premium by at least £50.

--
Cheers
Dave.

[Frank Erskine]

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:05:21 -0000, "Graham." wrote:


Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required.

That's why there's so much in stock.

--
Frank Erskine

[Rod]

On 31/12/2009 19:53, Frank Erskine wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:05:21 -0000, wrote:


Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required.

That's why there's so much in stock.

Yep - Oxo, Knorr and so on are full of it.

--
Rod

[Steve Firth]

Graham. wrote:

Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required.

Manchester water? Don't you mean Welsh water?

If you had to drink Manchester water you'd be dead inside a week.

[ARWadsworth]

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
.. .
Graham. wrote:

Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required.

Manchester water? Don't you mean Welsh water?

If you had to drink Manchester water you'd be dead inside a week.

The Mancunians drink Derbyshire water.

Adam

[Dave]

ARWadsworth wrote:

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
.. .
Graham. wrote:

Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required.

Manchester water? Don't you mean Welsh water?

If you had to drink Manchester water you'd be dead inside a week.

The Mancunians drink Derbyshire water.

I always thought it came from the Lake District. It did when I lived in
that area.

Dave

[Bruce[_8_]]

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:23:21 +0000, Dave
wrote:

ARWadsworth wrote:

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
.. .
Graham. wrote:

Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required.

Manchester water? Don't you mean Welsh water?

If you had to drink Manchester water you'd be dead inside a week.

The Mancunians drink Derbyshire water.

I always thought it came from the Lake District. It did when I lived in
that area.


You're right. Most of it comes from Thirlmere (Cumbria) via a 96-mile
pipeline. Most or all of the rest is from the Longdendale Valley in
the Peak District National Park, including Woodhead reservoir.

[Bruce[_8_]]

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:30:26 +0000, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:23:21 +0000, Dave
wrote:

ARWadsworth wrote:

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
.. .
Graham. wrote:

Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required.

Manchester water? Don't you mean Welsh water?

If you had to drink Manchester water you'd be dead inside a week.

The Mancunians drink Derbyshire water.

I always thought it came from the Lake District. It did when I lived in
that area.


You're right. Most of it comes from Thirlmere (Cumbria) via a 96-mile
pipeline.


Also Haweswater (Cumbria).


Most or all of the rest is from the Longdendale Valley in
the Peak District National Park, including Woodhead reservoir.

[Harry Bloomfield[_3_]]

ARWadsworth formulated the question :
"Steve Firth" wrote in message
.. .
Graham. wrote:

Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required.

Manchester water? Don't you mean Welsh water?

If you had to drink Manchester water you'd be dead inside a week.

The Mancunians drink Derbyshire water.

...and Welsh water.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

[Bruce[_8_]]

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:12:13 GMT, wrote:
On 31 Dec,
"ARWadsworth" wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message
.. .
Graham. wrote:

Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required.

Manchester water? Don't you mean Welsh water?

If you had to drink Manchester water you'd be dead inside a week.

The Mancunians drink Derbyshire water.

Since when has Thirlmere been in Derbyshire?


Manchester's Longdendale Valley water supply from the Peak District
National Park pre-dated the Thirlmere/Haweswater supply from the Lake
District.

[Steve Firth]

ARWadsworth wrote:

If you had to drink Manchester water you'd be dead inside a week.

The Mancunians drink Derbyshire water.

Umm not really the Derbyshire water goes to Sheffield and to Stockport.

[The Natural Philosopher[_2_]]

Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:23:21 +0000, Dave
wrote:

ARWadsworth wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message
.. .
Graham. wrote:

Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required.
Manchester water? Don't you mean Welsh water?

If you had to drink Manchester water you'd be dead inside a week.
The Mancunians drink Derbyshire water.
I always thought it came from the Lake District. It did when I lived in
that area.


You're right. Most of it comes from Thirlmere (Cumbria) via a 96-mile
pipeline. Most or all of the rest is from the Longdendale Valley in
the Peak District National Park, including Woodhead reservoir.

I remember as a schoolboy, we all solemnly urinated into that, to cheer
up one of us who was a Manchester United supporter.

[whiskeyomega]

"whiskeyomega" wrote in message
...
It never rains but pours in this house.

My dishwasher has tipped its water onto the floor instead of pumping out
down the drain.
This is because something is broken.

I sent for the repair man ( its insured) . I was told on the phone that
the problem was because I was not using a lime scale remover and so the
dishwasher had corroded.

Oh well I take it back. It seems there may have been nothing wrong with the
dish washer at all.

It was still leaking this morning. I think it might be the plumbing behind
the washing machine , although how that could put so much water onto the
floor I don't know. Its just dripping constantly somewhere across the mains
intake.

Floor remains wet. OH remains in bed, having switched the water off so that
it cant leak and so that I cant use the dishwasher. Cant bring in a plumber
( he wont let me - remember he is one!) and OH wont fix it.

Its a copper connection to a valve and then a plastic lead ( plastic lead is
OK I checked it) so its on the fitting/ pipe. Cold fill only. Any
suggestions to fix it ( and find precisely where its leaking)?

[John]

You're right. Most of it comes from Thirlmere (Cumbria) via a 96-mile
pipeline. Most or all of the rest is from the Longdendale Valley in
the Peak District National Park, including Woodhead reservoir.


Some amazing engineering feats were done in order to provide water many
years ago.

[Tim W[_2_]]

"whiskeyomega" @invalid
wibbled on Friday 01 January 2010 10:12


"whiskeyomega" wrote in message
...
It never rains but pours in this house.

My dishwasher has tipped its water onto the floor instead of pumping out
down the drain.
This is because something is broken.

I sent for the repair man ( its insured) . I was told on the phone that
the problem was because I was not using a lime scale remover and so the
dishwasher had corroded.

Oh well I take it back. It seems there may have been nothing wrong with
the dish washer at all.

It was still leaking this morning. I think it might be the plumbing behind
the washing machine , although how that could put so much water onto the
floor I don't know. Its just dripping constantly somewhere across the
mains intake.

Floor remains wet. OH remains in bed, having switched the water off so
that
it cant leak and so that I cant use the dishwasher. Cant bring in a
plumber ( he wont let me - remember he is one!) and OH wont fix it.

Oh dear. Suggest you use his bed as dirty washing up storage. Don't cook him
any lunch either.


Its a copper connection to a valve and then a plastic lead ( plastic lead
is
OK I checked it) so its on the fitting/ pipe. Cold fill only. Any
suggestions to fix it ( and find precisely where its leaking)?

If you can slide the machine(s) out far enough to see round the back but
leaving it/them connected, I would dry everything off, in particular the
pipes, then turn the water back on. If you can't see anything, run your
finger along the underside of the pipe from the back of the washing machine,
then to the machine tap then along the plumbing. You'll soon be able to feel
a couple of drops of water; it's the way I check my compression joints when
plumbing if I can't see them well enough.

It would be fairly unlikely (though not impossible) for the copper or its
joints to fail. Suspect the hose itself, the hose connections at either end
(they both screw on and each has a large rubber washer which might have died
or got damaged) and the tap valve.

Is there any possibility it's the drain side (was either machine running
over night or before you noticed the leak. Sometimes a bit of crud in the u-
trap can cause it to bubble back out of the standpipe - you might tell if
you can see if the water looks clean or dirty.

If you are able to start the machine(s) with it out, and have a torch handy,
all should become clear.

If it's the hose, they are standard (varying in length) so easy to get.

Don't know what else to suggest, but that's where I'd start.

Let us know what you find, or if I'm off teh mark, I apologise in adavnce,
my eyes are falling out of my head (up till 5am rebuilding my email and
antispam servers).

--
Tim Watts

This space intentionally left blank...

[mogga]

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:05:21 -0000, "Graham." wrote:


"whiskeyomega" wrote in message ...
It never rains but pours in this house.

My dishwasher has tipped its water onto the floor instead of pumping out down the drain.
This is because something is broken.

I sent for the repair man ( its insured) . I was told on the phone that the problem was because I was not using a lime scale
remover and so the dishwasher had corroded.

When you got the dishwasher was there a water test kit to see if you
needed to use a water softener? (I think ours had one but could be
wrong)
You could harrass the waterboard for a statement of how soft your
water is and send it the dishwasher people.


It might be true its corroded or something , like a seal on the bottom where the water drains has gone porous ( I know because it
has fallen off in two pieces and the dishwasher is a bit rusty but its 11 years old).

I have been told I have to buy and use this lime scale stuff when the repair man comes.

I don't want to sound daft, but we have very water where I live. Nothing else furs up , why should the dishwasher?

I just put the problem down to old age of the machine. It went wrong about two years ago when the suppressor broke.

Should I just pay the £11 for this stuff and shut up?

Oh, and will it be OK down my septic tank?

Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt

It always makes me smile too. I've never seen anyone buy it though...
(And if you did, would you say anything?)

is not required. Mind you, I bought several bags of it the other day from Tesco
at 38 pence/kg to sprinkle on my icy driveway.

Morrisons 22p a bag.


So what's this £11 stuff then?
--
http://www.Christmasfreebies.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk

[Andy Burns[_7_]]

On 01/01/10 11:16, mogga wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:05:21 -0000, wrote:
Tesco at 38 pence/kg to sprinkle on my icy driveway.

Morrisons 22p a bag.

19.8p/kg from Wickes, a bit too brown for putting on chips though!

[ARWadsworth]

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
. ..
ARWadsworth wrote:

If you had to drink Manchester water you'd be dead inside a week.

The Mancunians drink Derbyshire water.

Umm not really the Derbyshire water goes to Sheffield and to Stockport.

And also to Manchester, Nottingham, Leicester and Derby.

Adam

[geoff]

In message , whiskeyomega
writes

"whiskeyomega" wrote in message
...
It never rains but pours in this house.

My dishwasher has tipped its water onto the floor instead of pumping
out down the drain.
This is because something is broken.

I sent for the repair man ( its insured) . I was told on the phone
that the problem was because I was not using a lime scale remover and
so the dishwasher had corroded.

Oh well I take it back. It seems there may have been nothing wrong
with the dish washer at all.

It was still leaking this morning. I think it might be the plumbing
behind the washing machine , although how that could put so much water
onto the floor I don't know. Its just dripping constantly somewhere
across the mains intake.

Floor remains wet. OH remains in bed, having switched the water off so
that it cant leak and so that I cant use the dishwasher. Cant bring in
a plumber ( he wont let me - remember he is one!) and OH wont fix it.

Its a copper connection to a valve and then a plastic lead ( plastic
lead is OK I checked it) so its on the fitting/ pipe. Cold fill only.
Any suggestions to fix it ( and find precisely where its leaking)?

Tell him he has an hour to get up and get it sorted or you'll be on the
phone to someone who can



--
geoff

[Bruce[_8_]]

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 04:12:53 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:23:21 +0000, Dave
wrote:

ARWadsworth wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message
.. .
Graham. wrote:

Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required.
Manchester water? Don't you mean Welsh water?

If you had to drink Manchester water you'd be dead inside a week.
The Mancunians drink Derbyshire water.
I always thought it came from the Lake District. It did when I lived in
that area.


You're right. Most of it comes from Thirlmere (Cumbria) via a 96-mile
pipeline. Most or all of the rest is from the Longdendale Valley in
the Peak District National Park, including Woodhead reservoir.

I remember as a schoolboy, we all solemnly urinated into that, to cheer
up one of us who was a Manchester United supporter.


That's just taking the ****. ;-)

[geoff]

In message , Tim W
writes


If it's the hose, they are standard (varying in length) so easy to get.

And dirt cheap. And simple to replace


Don't know what else to suggest, but that's where I'd start.

Needs observational input from WO


Let us know what you find, or if I'm off teh mark, I apologise in adavnce,
my eyes are falling out of my head (up till 5am rebuilding my email and
antispam servers).


Aah ... a cyberparty

(thinks ... must do a backup today)

--
geoff

[Bruce[_8_]]

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 10:13:23 -0000, "John"
wrote:



You're right. Most of it comes from Thirlmere (Cumbria) via a 96-mile
pipeline. Most or all of the rest is from the Longdendale Valley in
the Peak District National Park, including Woodhead reservoir.


Some amazing engineering feats were done in order to provide water many
years ago.


Absolutely. And those Victorian feats are often still very visible.

The important reason for cities obtaining water from remote rural
sources was that local boreholes tended to be contaminated by sewage,
causing no end of public health problems. Clean water supply and
proper disposal and/or treatment of sewage helped make great advances
in the state of Britain's public health in Victorian times.

One of the greatest achievements of all was Bazalgette's mammoth
sewerage scheme in London, but the schemes to pipe clean water over
long distances to Britain's industrial cities rank not far behind.

[Bruce[_8_]]

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 02:45:27 +0000, (Steve Firth)
wrote:

ARWadsworth wrote:

If you had to drink Manchester water you'd be dead inside a week.

The Mancunians drink Derbyshire water.

Umm not really the Derbyshire water goes to Sheffield and to Stockport.


The Longdendale Valley reservoirs were Manchester's first major scheme
to pipe water from well outside the city, being commissioned in 1851.
Last time I looked, they were still in Derbyshire. But in your
alternative version of reality, they could be absolutely anywhere, and
are probably filled to the brim with cheap extra virgin olive oil.

[Harry Bloomfield[_3_]]

mogga presented the following explanation :
When you got the dishwasher was there a water test kit to see if you
needed to use a water softener? (I think ours had one but could be
wrong)
You could harrass the waterboard for a statement of how soft your
water is and send it the dishwasher people.

There is a URL somewhere, into which you can enter your postcode and it
gives you details of your water.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

[whiskeyomega]

"geoff" wrote in message
...
In message , whiskeyomega
writes

"whiskeyomega" wrote in message
.. .
It never rains but pours in this house.


Tell him he has an hour to get up and get it sorted or you'll be on the
phone to someone who can

Its not the pipe I am wrong. Well it was the pipe but he did get up and fix
it rather suddenly after I told him I was going to take it apart myself. (
he has also given me a heater in the kitchen because I complained of the
cold and condensation and damp - he got the heater off his sister and gave
it me)

He admits it was a mistake because he knew it was dripping and had he fixed
it the dishwasher man would not have been so quick to decide there was
nothing wrong with the dishwasher ( and I am a silly female - which I am!).

As OH has said , the amount of water on floor and the wet floor is not
consistent with the leak on the tap. There is far too much.

So I ran the dishwasher again and its dumped out its water all over the
floor ( why couldnt the dishwasher man get it to do this?).
I have ten towels mopping it up.

OH reckons ( as a plumber who doesnt know anything about dishwashers but
does obviously know about water)

a) its over filling somehow and then coming out of the front somewhere ( but
its under the bottom it comes out) . Possibly the seal round the door is
broken ..... but he cant see if its that. I doesnt look like its coming out
around the door.

b) there is a block in the poipes somewhere but he couldnt see that as the
water came out before the wash cycle began. The washer washer was still
filling. The last time it started to come out as the washer was draining.

c) its rusted out underneath and its coming out because its properly
leaking.

So I have sent for the man to come back - next Wednesday is the time they
gave me . He wont get to me until 5.00 o clock again no doubt.

I am wondering if its worth it. The machine is supposed to be insured to
repair or renew . But I just looked at the " renew" - its a case of they
will either give me a refurbished model or vochers for the estimated value
of the machine towards a new one.

Anyone had an insurance like this? Is it worth waiting or should I just dump
the machine and buy a new one ? I know OH wont like it, but what I do when
shopping is my business and I will go and do overtime to pay for it if
necesary.




--
geoff

[Steve Firth]

Bruce wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 02:45:27 +0000, (Steve Firth)
wrote:

ARWadsworth wrote:

If you had to drink Manchester water you'd be dead inside a week.

The Mancunians drink Derbyshire water.

Umm not really the Derbyshire water goes to Sheffield and to Stockport.


The Longdendale Valley reservoirs were Manchester's first major scheme
to pipe water from well outside the city, being commissioned in 1851.
Last time I looked, they were still in Derbyshire.

And did you bother to examine what use is made today of that water? The
major water supply in Manchester is from Wales and the Lake District.
The Longdendale reservoirs are a pimple on a wart.

But in your alternative version of reality, they could be absolutely
anywhere, and are probably filled to the brim with cheap extra virgin
olive oil.

You really are a stupid ****.

[Dave Liquorice[_2_]]

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 13:23:29 -0000, whiskeyomega wrote:

But I just looked at the " renew" - its a case of they will either give
me a refurbished model or vochers for the estimated value of the machine
towards a new one.

Anyone had an insurance like this? Is it worth waiting or should I just
dump the machine and buy a new one ?

Ten year old DW that leaks, not worth much even if it didn't leak
£25? Most of the appliance insurances really aren't worth the
premiums. Better of putting the cash into an interest bearing "Rainy
Day" account.

I know OH wont like it, but what I do when shopping is my business and I
will go and do overtime to pay for it if necesary.

"Rainy Day" funds are for this sort of sudden expense aren't they?

--
Cheers
Dave.

[Jules[_2_]]

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:23:21 +0000, Dave wrote:
The Mancunians drink Derbyshire water.

I always thought it came from the Lake District. It did when I lived in
that area.

Probably all piped in from France these days :-)

[ARWadsworth]

"Tim W" wrote in message
...



Let us know what you find, or if I'm off teh mark, I apologise in adavnce,
my eyes are falling out of my head (up till 5am rebuilding my email and
antispam servers).

--
Tim Watts


I thought you did all that stuff just before Christmas.

Adam

[Bruce[_8_]]

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 15:28:00 +0000, (Steve Firth)
wrote:

Bruce wrote:

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 02:45:27 +0000, (Steve Firth)
wrote:

ARWadsworth wrote:

If you had to drink Manchester water you'd be dead inside a week.

The Mancunians drink Derbyshire water.

Umm not really the Derbyshire water goes to Sheffield and to Stockport.


The Longdendale Valley reservoirs were Manchester's first major scheme
to pipe water from well outside the city, being commissioned in 1851.
Last time I looked, they were still in Derbyshire.

And did you bother to examine what use is made today of that water? The
major water supply in Manchester is from Wales and the Lake District.
The Longdendale reservoirs are a pimple on a wart.


But according to you, all the water in Derbyshire goes to Sheffield
and Stockport! What a prat.

[Steve Firth]

Bruce wrote:


And did you bother to examine what use is made today of that water? The
major water supply in Manchester is from Wales and the Lake District.
The Longdendale reservoirs are a pimple on a wart.


But according to you, all the water in Derbyshire goes to Sheffield
and Stockport!

I see you're still a liar.

What a prat.

Indeed you're a complete pillock.

[geoff]

In message , Bruce
writes
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 04:12:53 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:23:21 +0000, Dave
wrote:

ARWadsworth wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message
.. .
Graham. wrote:

Always makes me laugh why all the Supermarkets round here stock
dishwasher salt when Manchester water is notoriously soft, and salt
is not required.
Manchester water? Don't you mean Welsh water?

If you had to drink Manchester water you'd be dead inside a week.
The Mancunians drink Derbyshire water.
I always thought it came from the Lake District. It did when I lived in
that area.


You're right. Most of it comes from Thirlmere (Cumbria) via a 96-mile
pipeline. Most or all of the rest is from the Longdendale Valley in
the Peak District National Park, including Woodhead reservoir.

I remember as a schoolboy, we all solemnly urinated into that, to cheer
up one of us who was a Manchester United supporter.


That's just taking the ****. ;-)

Rather giving IWHT




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geoff

[Tim W[_2_]]

ARWadsworth
wibbled on Friday 01 January 2010 17:40


"Tim W" wrote in message
...



Let us know what you find, or if I'm off teh mark, I apologise in
adavnce, my eyes are falling out of my head (up till 5am rebuilding my
email and antispam servers).

--
Tim Watts


I thought you did all that stuff just before Christmas.

Adam

That was the physical side.

I just felt it was time to polish the software side (and my mail server
blowing up did kind of cement that idea!).

All good fun

--
Tim Watts

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