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Is it time to give up?
New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work.
A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. -- Adam |
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ARW wrote:
New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Buy him a modulo screwdriver and file the pointy tip off? |
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On 21/07/2020 18:13, ARW wrote:
New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Are you sure that it isn't /your/ fault for not using a screw with a combination of a slotted and Phillips head in the first place? ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screw_drives#Combination_drives -- Jeff |
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On 21/07/2020 18:13, ARW wrote:
New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Just tell him to knock the screw in with a hammer. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 21/07/2020 19:01, alan_m wrote:
On 21/07/2020 18:13, ARW wrote: New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Just tell him to knock the screw in with a hammer. I worked in a saw mill at one time. They made pallets for plate glass. That's exactly what they did. Balanced the screw on the point and one blow was enough. The unintended consequences of paid piece-work. Brian -- Brian -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:13:38 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. I've made one fit before now. Couldn't find the exact size slotted I needed so the angel grinder turned a dead PZ2 into a slot. And yes, I have more slotted bits in stock now! NT |
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On 21/07/2020 19:07, Brian Howie wrote:
On 21/07/2020 19:01, alan_m wrote: On 21/07/2020 18:13, ARW wrote: New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Just tell him to knock the screw in with a hammer. I worked in a saw mill at one time. They made pallets for plate glass. That's exactly what they did. Balanced the screw on the point and one blow was enough. The unintended consequences of paid piece-work. In February I got some items delivered on a pallet constructed presumably with the use of a nail gun. On attempting to take it apart the nails were barbed down their length meaning that it was almost impossible to remove them from the wood. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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ARW Wrote in message:
New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Self employment? -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Brian Howie Wrote in message:
On 21/07/2020 19:01, alan_m wrote: On 21/07/2020 18:13, ARW wrote: New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Just tell him to knock the screw in with a hammer. I worked in a saw mill at one time. They made pallets for plate glass. That's exactly what they did. Balanced the screw on the point and one blow was enough. The unintended consequences of paid piece-work. The Liverpool screwdriver (or wherever D i m is from...) -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Jimk Wrote in message:
ARW Wrote in message: New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Self employment? You could do your own interviews..... -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:12:53 UTC+1, JimK wrote:
The Liverpool screwdriver (or wherever D i m is from...) I thought it was Brummagem. Owain |
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Jimk wrote: Brian Howie Wrote in message: On 21/07/2020 19:01, alan_m wrote: On 21/07/2020 18:13, ARW wrote: New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Just tell him to knock the screw in with a hammer. I worked in a saw mill at one time. They made pallets for plate glass. That's exactly what they did. Balanced the screw on the point and one blow was enough. The unintended consequences of paid piece-work. The Liverpool screwdriver (or wherever D i m is from...) I knew it as a "Birmingham Screwdriver". -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 21/07/2020 19:01, alan_m wrote:
On 21/07/2020 18:13, ARW wrote: New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Just tell him to knock the screw in with a hammer. that'd be cultural appropriation if the apprentice is not from the proper community -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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Jimk Wrote in message:
Jimk Wrote in message: ARW Wrote in message: New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Self employment? You could do your own interviews..... Er...perhaps not :^) -- Jimk ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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The Liverpool screwdriver
I knew it as a "Birmingham Screwdriver". Definitely a €śLancashire Pattern Screwdriver€ť |
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On 21/07/2020 18:13, ARW wrote:
New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. No, treat him a blank sheet om which you will write your wisdom. Bill |
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On 21/07/2020 19:07, Brian Howie wrote:
On 21/07/2020 19:01, alan_m wrote: On 21/07/2020 18:13, ARW wrote: New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Just tell him to knock the screw in with a hammer. I worked in a saw mill at one time. They made pallets for plate glass. That's exactly what they did. Balanced the screw on the point and one blow was enough. The unintended consequences of paid piece-work. Brian I did the same, but it was packing cases. Sometimes if the screw didn't go in far enough you'd have to turn it, but you soon got the knack. -- Cheers Clive |
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On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:13:38 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. At least you found that out before you gave him anything important to do, like making tea. Owain |
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On 21/07/2020 20:28, GB wrote:
On 21/07/2020 19:25, wrote: On Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:13:38 UTC+1, ARWÂ* wrote: New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. I've made one fit before now. Couldn't find the exact size slotted I needed so the angel grinder turned a dead PZ2 into a slot. And yes, I have more slotted bits in stock now! NT The other way round does work. You can undo a PZ2 with a small slotted screwdriver. That is the correct screwdriver for rusty PZ2 screws. -- Adam |
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ARW wrote
New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Clearly you lot are hopeless at weeding out useless applicants. And at choosing which vans to buy too. |
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"Who or What is Rod Speed?"
"Who or What is Rod Speed?
Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard man" on the InterNet." https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ -- Bod addressing abnormal senile quarreller Rot: "Do you practice arguing with yourself in an empty room?" MID: |
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On 21/07/2020 21:09, Tricky Dicky wrote:
The Liverpool screwdriver I knew it as a "Birmingham Screwdriver". Definitely a €śLancashire Pattern Screwdriver€ť We were always told not to "Manchester the heads on those bolts". |
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 07:20:47 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
ARW wrote New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Clearly you lot are hopeless at weeding out useless applicants. And at choosing which vans to buy too. It's discrimination if he can't do the job.. |
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I have a theory that modern education is making us more like computers every
day. You have to detaill every eventuality the computer may encounter in doing a certain job, and a subroutine of checking the bit against the screw type is a must if you are designing a very flexible assembly robot control system. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "ARW" wrote in message ... New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. -- Adam |
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"jon" wrote in message ... On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 07:20:47 +1000, Rod Speed wrote: ARW wrote New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Clearly you lot are hopeless at weeding out useless applicants. And at choosing which vans to buy too. It's discrimination if he can't do the job.. But not illegal discrimination. |
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Lonely Obnoxious Cantankerous Auto-contradicting Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 19:39:41 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- John addressing the senile Australian pest: "You are a complete idiot. But you make me larf. LOL" MID: |
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On 21/07/2020 19:07, Brian Howie wrote:
On 21/07/2020 19:01, alan_m wrote: On 21/07/2020 18:13, ARW wrote: New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Just tell him to knock the screw in with a hammer. I worked in a saw mill at one time. They made pallets for plate glass. That's exactly what they did. Balanced the screw on the point and one blow was enough. The unintended consequences of paid piece-work. Brian If the timber was still fresh and soft it wasn't a problem. In my 1976 house the chipboard flooring is fixed with nails that have serrations all along the shaft to stop them working loose. |
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On 21/07/2020 20:12, Jimk wrote:
Brian Howie Wrote in message: On 21/07/2020 19:01, alan_m wrote: On 21/07/2020 18:13, ARW wrote: New starter cannot get the screwdriver to work. A PZ2 does not fit a slotted screw. Just tell him to knock the screw in with a hammer. I worked in a saw mill at one time. They made pallets for plate glass. That's exactly what they did. Balanced the screw on the point and one blow was enough. The unintended consequences of paid piece-work. The Liverpool screwdriver (or wherever D i m is from...) Geordie spanner, well known in shipyards |
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