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Aldi have these on offer from Thursday
http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers...08-08-15-11-27 I bought a set last time they had them. The waterpump pliers are excellent, well worth £7:99 on their own. The waste pliers are also excellent for getting that extra turn on a compression waste. Never used the stiltsons but they are very solidly made. Real bargain. BTW, anyone know how this works? http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_6925.htm -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message om... Aldi have these on offer from Thursday http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers...08-08-15-11-27 I bought a set last time they had them. The waterpump pliers are excellent, well worth £7:99 on their own. The waste pliers are also excellent for getting that extra turn on a compression waste. Never used the stiltsons but they are very solidly made. Real bargain. BTW, anyone know how this works? http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_6925.htm For a moment there on reading the bumpf I thought it said..."**** blockages" lol -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk I wish they'd sell Pipe benders,something they havn't sold yet? |
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On Aug 18, 10:48*pm, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Aldi have these on offer from Thursdayhttp://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_6924.htm?WT.mc_id=2008-08-15-... I bought a set last time they had them. *The waterpump pliers are excellent, well worth £7:99 on their own. *The waste pliers are also excellent for getting that extra turn on a compression waste. *Never used the stiltsons but they are very solidly made. Real bargain. BTW, anyone know how this works?http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_6925.htm -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk That might be a flexible rod or probe. I used one when I had a septic tank if I found any blocked outlets. Once the blockage was two very young rats! |
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On Aug 18, 11:17*pm, Ariadne wrote:
On Aug 18, 10:48*pm, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: Aldi have these on offer from Thursdayhttp://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_6924.htm?WT.mc_id=2008-08-15-... I bought a set last time they had them. *The waterpump pliers are excellent, well worth £7:99 on their own. *The waste pliers are also excellent for getting that extra turn on a compression waste. *Never used the stiltsons but they are very solidly made. Real bargain. BTW, anyone know how this works?http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_6925.htm -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk That might be a flexible rod or probe. *I used one when I had a septic tank if I found any blocked outlets. Once the blockage was two very young rats! It also works for poking out leaves if any land in gullies, etc. It's a great tool and quite gentle since you just jiggle it about. |
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http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/2867_6953.htm Might be useful for a bit of concrete related brutality. Anyone had a previous Aldi SDS? Cheers Tim |
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:48:11 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote:
BTW, anyone know how this works? http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_6925.htm From the page you connect one end of one of the pipes to your tap and stuff the other end down the plug hole of the blocked drain. Turn on the tap and jets of water squirt out the far end dislodging the crud. This is fine provided the pipe has enough diameter left to carry the lumps of dislodged crud... -- Cheers Dave. |
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and now: http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/2867_6953.htm Might be useful for a bit of concrete related brutality. Anyone had a previous Aldi SDS? Cheers Tim Oh, and ALDI's claim of suitable "for light demolition work" may be an understatement. According to: http://www.walter-service.com/shop/r...500w-p-63.html It's an 8kg monster, with 8.8J impact energy. |
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"Tim S" wrote in message ... and now: http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/2867_6953.htm Might be useful for a bit of concrete related brutality. Anyone had a previous Aldi SDS? not had one from aldi before, but gonna have one from the 24th, along with the chisel and drill bit set, and a sledge hammer, and a wide broom, and the trowel set, gonna be an expensive week is next week my current sds drill was a makro special, the gears for the rotation stripped a year ago, kept it just to use as a concrete breaker, never needed to till we moved home, it was fine on the fence posts, but the damn flag pole which is a scaffold pole held in with very strong cement was too much for the supplied flat chisel, snapped it off at the shank, the pointy chisel is still working but dont break the concrete appart enough, i'm 2 and a half foot through and the end is still not in sight, just my luck if it's a 12 foot scaffold pole just what is it with these flag flying people, bloke 3 doors down flies the georges cross, leaves it out all the tim,e so when it's windy the whole street is kept amused by the 'tink, tink, tink' noise as the metal bits on the rope bang against the pole, this place has a big flag pole socket in the front garden and the scaffold pole socket in the back garden, the bloke who lived here before was a right filthy *******, so he prolly used them to hang his ****ted Y fronts out to dry, and that would not be an exageration based on what we found under ethe rotten kitchen cabinets, and i'm not even going to mention the cooker with a ferret turd in the oven!!! |
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:29:35 +0100, Tim S wrote:
and now: http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/2867_6953.htm Might be useful for a bit of concrete related brutality. Anyone had a previous Aldi SDS? Cheers Tim Yes, it works well. My hands are numb from yesterdays work on old concrete post holes. ( It weighs a ton and is only suitable for short time use, unless you work out three hours a day. In which case buy two, one for each hand. |
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:48:11 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: BTW, anyone know how this works? http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_6925.htm Badly. The adapters don't fit any UK tap thread I'm familiar with. The basic idea is good. Long hose with a tiny waterjet nozzle at the end. If you have kitchen sink drains with fat buildup (and you can solve the adapter issue), then it removes deposits quite effectively. |
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:12:55 +0100, gazz wrote:
not had one from aldi before, but gonna have one from the 24th, along with the chisel and drill bit set, and a sledge hammer, and a wide broom, and the trowel set, gonna be an expensive week is next week I was more interested in the diamond core drill set but they don't give the diameters of the cores! Same for the drill set (though I have a fairly comprehensive collection anyway). If the core set doesn't have something that will allow a 110mm pipe to pass through I'm not that interested as the nearest Aldi is a 50 mile round trip. -- Cheers Dave. |
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"gazz" wrote in message ... just what is it with these flag flying people, bloke 3 doors down flies the georges cross, leaves it out all the tim,e so when it's windy the whole street is kept amused by the 'tink, tink, tink' noise as the metal bits on the rope bang against the pole, Some NF members do that to advertise their presence. Its the reason why local councils don't like people flying flags. this place has a big flag pole socket in the front garden and the scaffold pole socket in the back garden, the bloke who lived here before was a right filthy *******, so he prolly used them to hang his ****ted Y fronts out to dry, and that would not be an exageration based on what we found under ethe rotten kitchen cabinets, and i'm not even going to mention the cooker with a ferret turd in the oven!!! Sounds like a typical NF turd. |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message om... Aldi have these on offer from Thursday http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers...08-08-15-11-27 I bought a set last time they had them. The waterpump pliers are excellent, well worth £7:99 on their own. The waste pliers are also excellent for getting that extra turn on a compression waste. Never used the stiltsons but they are very solidly made. Real bargain. If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so. |
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"Tim S" wrote in message ... and now: http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/2867_6953.htm Might be useful for a bit of concrete related brutality. Anyone had a previous Aldi SDS? Don't expect budget SDS drills to last when under intense use. They are fine for "occasional" DIY use. Budget mains drills are fine, they are great value for money. |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: "The Medway Handyman" wrote in message om... Aldi have these on offer from Thursday http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers...08-08-15-11-27 I bought a set last time they had them. The waterpump pliers are excellent, well worth £7:99 on their own. The waste pliers are also excellent for getting that extra turn on a compression waste. Never used the stiltsons but they are very solidly made. Real bargain. If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so. Unless you've actually tried them you're just guessing. And probably a poor guess. Certainly Lidl tools are up to as much use/abuse as any other. And better than many 'brands' at a much higher price. -- *Ever stop to think and forget to start again? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: Don't expect budget SDS drills to last when under intense use. They are fine for "occasional" DIY use. Budget mains drills are fine, they are great value for money. You've changed your tune. At one time you said the sites were full of tradesmen using 'shed' brands relying on the long warranty to give them value. Perhaps you've actually visited some sites. -- *El nino made me do it Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: Don't expect budget SDS drills to last when under intense use. They are fine for "occasional" DIY use. Budget mains drills are fine, they are great value for money. You've changed your tune. At one time you said the sites were full of tradesmen using 'shed' brands relying on the long warranty to give them value. Perhaps you've actually visited some sites. No one uses cheap SDS drills. The only one I know, used a £25 cheapo as a distress purchase when his SDS burnt out on a job. I know another who has a £25 cheapie in his van in case his prime SDS burns out. This gives reduces down time until the prime SDS is replaced ASAP, like next day from Screwfix direct to a job. Down time can kill the profit on a job if it runs over another day and another customer is waiting for a promised 8:00 am start the next day. I know many who have cheapish battery drills and mains general purpose drills. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: "The Medway Handyman" wrote in message om... Aldi have these on offer from Thursday http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers...08-08-15-11-27 I bought a set last time they had them. The waterpump pliers are excellent, well worth £7:99 on their own. The waste pliers are also excellent for getting that extra turn on a compression waste. Never used the stiltsons but they are very solidly made. Real bargain. If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so. Unless you've actually tried them you're just guessing. Again...."If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so." When water pump pliers slip they can be dangerous. |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: Unless you've actually tried them you're just guessing. Again...."If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so." Saying it again doesn't make it true as you're just guessing. When water pump pliers slip they can be dangerous. Any tool slipping can be dangerous. -- *He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless, dead. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: You've changed your tune. At one time you said the sites were full of tradesmen using 'shed' brands relying on the long warranty to give them value. Perhaps you've actually visited some sites. No one uses cheap SDS drills. The only one I know, used a £25 cheapo as a distress purchase when his SDS burnt out on a job. I know another who has a £25 cheapie in his van in case his prime SDS burns out. This gives reduces down time until the prime SDS is replaced ASAP, like next day from Screwfix direct to a job. Down time can kill the profit on a job if it runs over another day and another customer is waiting for a promised 8:00 am start the next day. I know many who have cheapish battery drills and mains general purpose drills. The one thing that shows up a cheap cordless tool is the poor batteries (and often poor charger). Both making their use for pro work a nonsense. -- *What boots up must come down * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: Unless you've actually tried them you're just guessing. Again...."If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so." Saying it again Again...."If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so." |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: You've changed your tune. At one time you said the sites were full of tradesmen using 'shed' brands relying on the long warranty to give them value. Perhaps you've actually visited some sites. No one uses cheap SDS drills. The only one I know, used a £25 cheapo as a distress purchase when his SDS burnt out on a job. I know another who has a £25 cheapie in his van in case his prime SDS burns out. This gives reduces down time until the prime SDS is replaced ASAP, like next day from Screwfix direct to a job. Down time can kill the profit on a job if it runs over another day and another customer is waiting for a promised 8:00 am start the next day. I know many who have cheapish battery drills and mains general purpose drills. The one thing that shows up a cheap cordless tool is the poor batteries (and often poor charger). Both making their use for pro work a nonsense. They replace when the batteries are running down. |
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"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message ... "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: Unless you've actually tried them you're just guessing. Again...."If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so." Saying it again Again...."If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so." well duh, how many proffesional people buy their tools from aldi tho, i thought this was a DIY group, usually one person doing one off jobs in their house, so why pay 300 quid out for a tool that can be used a billion times without fail when you need it to do 5 or 6 jobs and that's it. |
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"gazz" wrote in message ... "Doctor Drivel" wrote in message ... "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: Unless you've actually tried them you're just guessing. Again...."If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so." Saying it again Again...."If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so." well duh, how many proffesional people buy their tools from aldi tho, i thought this was a DIY group, usually one person doing one off jobs in their house, so why pay 300 quid out for a tool that can be used a billion times without fail when you need it to do 5 or 6 jobs and that's it. I agree with you. For DIY hand tools use them occasionally and they are fine. A pro started this thread. |
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gazz wrote: Again...."If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so." well duh, how many proffesional people buy their tools from aldi tho, i thought this was a DIY group, usually one person doing one off jobs in their house, so why pay 300 quid out for a tool that can be used a billion times without fail when you need it to do 5 or 6 jobs and that's it. As I said the difference isn't that great - if any at all. There are too many tool 'experts' that think price and brand always determine the actual longevity of a tool. That might have been the case once but not these days. -- *Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: The one thing that shows up a cheap cordless tool is the poor batteries (and often poor charger). Both making their use for pro work a nonsense. They replace when the batteries are running down. Thanks for proving yet again you don't ever use a cordless tool in anger. Short life batteries with a poor charger make life a misery when used heavily. -- *Acupuncture is a jab well done* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:29:35 +0100, Tim S wrote:
and now: http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/2867_6953.htm Might be useful for a bit of concrete related brutality. Anyone had a previous Aldi SDS? Just like the one that broke my hand last year!, I have some doubts about the clutch I notice the long drill bits are now a 3 pack instead of a 4, thats inflation for you I guess. Steve |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: The one thing that shows up a cheap cordless tool is the poor batteries (and often poor charger). Both making their use for pro work a nonsense. They replace when the batteries are running down. Thanks Please eff off you are a total idiot. |
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Steve coughed up some electrons that declared:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:29:35 +0100, Tim S wrote: and now: http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/2867_6953.htm Might be useful for a bit of concrete related brutality. Anyone had a previous Aldi SDS? Just like the one that broke my hand last year!, I have some doubts about the clutch I just emailed walter-service.com about that, PRESUMING that like the wall chaser, the ALDI SDS is really a Walter... I had back a reply very quickly, and I quote an excerpt: "The rotary hammer is fitted with a safety clutch and this is tested / calibrated on the production line. Calculated according to the relevant European standard (EN 60745) the max slip torque for the safety clutch in this machine is 68 Nm." Cheers Tim |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: Again...."If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so." When water pump pliers slip they can be dangerous. No pro worthy of the name would use these things anyway - they damage the surface of whatever you're attempting to turn. A true bodger's tool - probably why you know so much about them. -- *If you don't like the news, go out and make some. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: Again...."If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so." When water pump pliers slip they can be dangerous. No pro Please eff off as you are a total plantpot. |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: Again...."If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so." When water pump pliers slip they can be dangerous. No pro Please eff off as you are a total plantpot. Is that the best you can manage after all those weeks in treatment? -- *Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: Again...."If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so." When water pump pliers slip they can be dangerous. No pro Please eff off as you are a total plantpot. Is Please eff off as you are a total plantpot. |
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message om... Aldi have these on offer from Thursday http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers...08-08-15-11-27 I bought a set last time they had them. The waterpump pliers are excellent, well worth £7:99 on their own. The waste pliers are also excellent for getting that extra turn on a compression waste. Never used the stiltsons but they are very solidly made. Real bargain. If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so. Good job I posted to UK DIY and not UK Serious Pipe Fitters then innit? I've used the pliers almost on a daily basis for 18 months, they show no signs of wear or damage. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: Again...."If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so." When water pump pliers slip they can be dangerous. No pro Please eff off as you are a total plantpot. Is Please eff off as you are a total plantpot. He's got you there Dave. You can't argue with an intelligent sophisticated retort like that. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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The Medway Handyman wrote: Doctor Drivel wrote: "The Medway Handyman" wrote in message om... Aldi have these on offer from Thursday http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers...08-08-15-11-27 I bought a set last time they had them. The waterpump pliers are excellent, well worth £7:99 on their own. The waste pliers are also excellent for getting that extra turn on a compression waste. Never used the stiltsons but they are very solidly made. Real bargain. If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so. Good job I posted to UK DIY and not UK Serious Pipe Fitters then innit? I've used the pliers almost on a daily basis for 18 months, they show no signs of wear or damage. Indeed - as I'd expect. Some time ago I bought the pliers and cutters set from Lidl and the cutters were the equal of very much more expensive ones - they coped fine with piano wire. Dribble, of course, is the one who cuts plastic pipe with a hacksaw and floods the street. So has little knowledge about the tools required for plumbing. -- *Elephants are the only mammals that can't jump * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dave Plowman (News)" saying something like: Please eff off as you are a total plantpot. Is that the best you can manage after all those weeks in treatment? I'd have thought he'd have learned a new line by now. -- Dave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a "It's a moron working with power tools. How much more suspenseful can you get?" - House |
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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message ... We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dave Plowman (News)" saying something like: Please eff off as you are a total plantpot. Is that the best you can manage after all those weeks in treatment? I'd have thought he'd have learned a new line by now. I thought that too. |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message om... Doctor Drivel wrote: "The Medway Handyman" wrote in message om... Aldi have these on offer from Thursday http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers...08-08-15-11-27 I bought a set last time they had them. The waterpump pliers are excellent, well worth £7:99 on their own. The waste pliers are also excellent for getting that extra turn on a compression waste. Never used the stiltsons but they are very solidly made. Real bargain. If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so. Good job I posted to UK DIY and not UK Serious Pipe Fitters then innit? I've used the pliers almost on a daily basis for 18 months, they show no signs of wear or damage. They are far from full pro quality and the price reflects that. |
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Aldi Plumbers tools
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message om... Doctor Drivel wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: Again...."If you are using them occasionally for DIY, then they are fine. A serious pipe fitter would laugh at them as they would last a month or so." When water pump pliers slip they can be dangerous. No pro Please eff off as you are a total plantpot. Is Please eff off as you are a total plantpot. He's got you there Dave. You can't argue with an intelligent sophisticated retort like that. He can't. |
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