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Pressure washer leakage problem



 
 
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Old May 16th 08, 08:48 AM posted to uk.d-i-y
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When I switched on my (Karcher KB 9030) pressure washer for the first
time this year there was no pressure and water was gushing out of the
casing. I opened it up and found that the plastic elbow (connecting the
high pressure hose to the compressor) was cracked. So I Googled the part
number, ordered a new part, fitted it. Easy.

I guess the frost must have got to it.

Then after a few minutes, use another leak started, identical to the
first, but on the inlet side this time. No problem it was only a fine
spray and it didn't seem to have any effect on the performance.

Then after about half-an-hour's use bugger me it developed yet another
leak. This time it's a fairly major leak where the second inlet elbow
joins onto the compressor.

Photo:
http://thedowerhouse.com/pics/leak1.jpg

Slightly better close-up of leak 3:
http://thedowerhouse.com/pics/leak2.jpg

The result of the leak is that when the outlet is closed the motor
starts and stops about once a second, and water leaks out of the casing.
When the outlet is open everything seems to work fine.

I'm not so keen to tackle this problem because it looks like I'll have
to remove the metal cover and I suspect it won't be quite so easy to
reassemble.

Anyone got any experience of this?

--
Mike Barnes
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Old May 16th 08, 10:36 AM posted to uk.d-i-y
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"Mike Barnes" wrote in message .

I'm not so keen to tackle this problem because it looks like I'll have
to remove the metal cover and I suspect it won't be quite so easy to
reassemble.

Anyone got any experience of this?

--
Mike Barnes


So whats the alternative or what have you got to lose?

When a pressure washer has not been used for sometime? the idea is to hold
the lance in one hand ready to operate the trigger and turn on the water
with less force then switch on the PW and operate the lance trigger in short
burst till the jet builds up pressure,then open the tap more for more force.


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Old May 16th 08, 10:59 AM posted to uk.d-i-y
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Mike Barnes writes:
When I switched on my (Karcher KB 9030) pressure washer for the first
time this year there was no pressure and water was gushing out of the
casing. I opened it up and found that the plastic elbow (connecting the
high pressure hose to the compressor) was cracked. So I Googled the part
number, ordered a new part, fitted it. Easy.

I guess the frost must have got to it.

Then after a few minutes, use another leak started, identical to the
first, but on the inlet side this time. No problem it was only a fine
spray and it didn't seem to have any effect on the performance.

Then after about half-an-hour's use bugger me it developed yet another
leak. This time it's a fairly major leak where the second inlet elbow
joins onto the compressor.

Photo:
http://thedowerhouse.com/pics/leak1.jpg

Slightly better close-up of leak 3:
http://thedowerhouse.com/pics/leak2.jpg

The result of the leak is that when the outlet is closed the motor
starts and stops about once a second, and water leaks out of the casing.
When the outlet is open everything seems to work fine.

I'm not so keen to tackle this problem because it looks like I'll have
to remove the metal cover and I suspect it won't be quite so easy to
reassemble.

Anyone got any experience of this?


Sounds like the plastic has all rotted.
Have you ever used it with any chemicals?

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Andrew Gabriel
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Old May 16th 08, 11:20 AM posted to uk.d-i-y
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"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message

Sounds like the plastic has all rotted.
Have you ever used it with any chemicals?

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Or used hot water?


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Old May 16th 08, 11:23 AM posted to uk.d-i-y
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"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
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In article ,
Mike Barnes writes:
When I switched on my (Karcher KB 9030) pressure washer for the first
time this year there was no pressure and water was gushing out of the
casing. I opened it up and found that the plastic elbow (connecting the
high pressure hose to the compressor) was cracked. So I Googled the part
number, ordered a new part, fitted it. Easy.

I guess the frost must have got to it.

Then after a few minutes, use another leak started, identical to the
first, but on the inlet side this time. No problem it was only a fine
spray and it didn't seem to have any effect on the performance.

Then after about half-an-hour's use bugger me it developed yet another
leak. This time it's a fairly major leak where the second inlet elbow
joins onto the compressor.

Photo:
http://thedowerhouse.com/pics/leak1.jpg

Slightly better close-up of leak 3:
http://thedowerhouse.com/pics/leak2.jpg

The result of the leak is that when the outlet is closed the motor
starts and stops about once a second, and water leaks out of the casing.
When the outlet is open everything seems to work fine.

I'm not so keen to tackle this problem because it looks like I'll have
to remove the metal cover and I suspect it won't be quite so easy to
reassemble.

Anyone got any experience of this?


Sounds like the plastic has all rotted.
Have you ever used it with any chemicals?


Seems to be grasping at unlikely explanations! 3 leaks all more or less at
once round the joints after winter - surely the OP's original suggestion of
frost damage is the most likely??


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Old May 16th 08, 12:58 PM posted to uk.d-i-y
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In uk.d-i-y, George wrote:

"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message

Sounds like the plastic has all rotted.
Have you ever used it with any chemicals?

Or used hot water?


No and no.

Has anyone here taken the metal housing off one of these (or similar),
and if so, is it easy to put back together gain?

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Mike Barnes
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Old May 16th 08, 12:59 PM posted to uk.d-i-y
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In uk.d-i-y, George wrote:

"Mike Barnes" wrote in message .

I'm not so keen to tackle this problem because it looks like I'll have
to remove the metal cover and I suspect it won't be quite so easy to
reassemble.

Anyone got any experience of this?

--
Mike Barnes


So whats the alternative or what have you got to lose?


The alternatives are (1) try to repair it, and risk not being able to
reassemble it - unless anyone here can help with information, which is
why I'm asking, and (2) carry on using it and put up with the noise and
leakage when the output is switched off.

When a pressure washer has not been used for sometime? the idea is to hold
the lance in one hand ready to operate the trigger and turn on the water
with less force then switch on the PW and operate the lance trigger in short
burst till the jet builds up pressure,then open the tap more for more force.


I've not head that before. I do make sure that water is flowing before I
turn the electricity on.

--
Mike Barnes
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Old May 16th 08, 05:52 PM posted to uk.d-i-y
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Default Pressure washer leakage problem



Mike Barnes wrote:
When I switched on my (Karcher KB 9030) pressure washer for the first
time this year there was no pressure and water was gushing out of the
casing. I opened it up and found that the plastic elbow (connecting
the high pressure hose to the compressor) was cracked. So I Googled
the part number, ordered a new part, fitted it. Easy.

I guess the frost must have got to it.


Highly likely.


Then after a few minutes, use another leak started, identical to the
first, but on the inlet side this time. No problem it was only a fine
spray and it didn't seem to have any effect on the performance.

Then after about half-an-hour's use bugger me it developed yet another
leak. This time it's a fairly major leak where the second inlet elbow
joins onto the compressor.

Photo:
http://thedowerhouse.com/pics/leak1.jpg

Slightly better close-up of leak 3:
http://thedowerhouse.com/pics/leak2.jpg

The result of the leak is that when the outlet is closed the motor
starts and stops about once a second, and water leaks out of the
casing. When the outlet is open everything seems to work fine.


The leak is on the high pressure side of the pump head and is causing the
auto stop start to get confused. Long term use like this will cause damage.

I'm not so keen to tackle this problem because it looks like I'll have
to remove the metal cover and I suspect it won't be quite so easy to
reassemble.


I'm assuming this machine has a swash plate pump, unlikely to be anything
else (just looked & it does). There are two parts to the head, the pressure
head & the crank, called housing 1 & housing 2 on this diagram

http://www.espares.co.uk/diagram/pre...507566?ed=2832

Removing the pressure (26 on the diagram) by undoing the bolts (27) should
reveal a gasket which has probably gone. Should be simple to do, just make
sure you don't lose any o rings. Shouldn't be any ping****its. Don't
attempt to remove the crank/housing 2 because you probably need special
tools to get it back.

HTH



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Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk


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Old May 16th 08, 11:02 PM posted to uk.d-i-y
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In uk.d-i-y, The Medway Handyman wrote:


Mike Barnes wrote:
When I switched on my (Karcher KB 9030) pressure washer for the first
time this year there was no pressure and water was gushing out of the
casing. I opened it up and found that the plastic elbow (connecting
the high pressure hose to the compressor) was cracked. So I Googled
the part number, ordered a new part, fitted it. Easy.

I guess the frost must have got to it.


Highly likely.


Then after a few minutes, use another leak started, identical to the
first, but on the inlet side this time. No problem it was only a fine
spray and it didn't seem to have any effect on the performance.

Then after about half-an-hour's use bugger me it developed yet another
leak. This time it's a fairly major leak where the second inlet elbow
joins onto the compressor.

Photo:
http://thedowerhouse.com/pics/leak1.jpg

Slightly better close-up of leak 3:
http://thedowerhouse.com/pics/leak2.jpg

The result of the leak is that when the outlet is closed the motor
starts and stops about once a second, and water leaks out of the
casing. When the outlet is open everything seems to work fine.


The leak is on the high pressure side of the pump head and is causing the
auto stop start to get confused.


Actually I'm pretty sure it's on the low pressure side but the effect
seems to be the same.

Long term use like this will cause damage.


That's what I was afraid of.


I'm not so keen to tackle this problem because it looks like I'll have
to remove the metal cover and I suspect it won't be quite so easy to
reassemble.


I'm assuming this machine has a swash plate pump, unlikely to be anything
else (just looked & it does). There are two parts to the head, the pressure
head & the crank, called housing 1 & housing 2 on this diagram

http://www.espares.co.uk/diagram/pre.../kb9030/p/1315
/877/75/507566?ed=2832

Removing the pressure (26 on the diagram) by undoing the bolts (27) should
reveal a gasket which has probably gone. Should be simple to do, just make
sure you don't lose any o rings. Shouldn't be any ping****its. Don't
attempt to remove the crank/housing 2 because you probably need special
tools to get it back.

HTH


Yes, thanks. I'll finish the current batch of jobs, strip it down, and
see what I find. I suspect a new part 8 is required, or (if I'm really
lucky) just its O-ring.

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Mike Barnes
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Old May 17th 08, 09:41 AM posted to uk.d-i-y
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On 2008-05-16 17:52:44 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:

I'm assuming this machine has a swash plate pump, unlikely to be anything
else (just looked & it does). There are two parts to the head, the pressure
head & the crank, called housing 1 & housing 2 on this diagram



WHat is a swash plate pump and how does it work? Enquiring minds need
to know.


 




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