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I need a solution to stop doors being slammed by teenage kids, which
in turn shakes the whole house.

Mrs dg insists that it MUST be an ironmongery solution, and not
related physical or surgical treatment, or sending the kids off to a
care home.

I've looked at the pneumatic kitchen cabinet closers, but these would
not seem to fit on a normal internal door, and not be strong enough in
any case.

I've also looked at a dictator, but these seem obtrusive and need to
work with a door closer mechanism. I don't want any annoying self
closing doors

The sponge things to prevent younger children from trapping their
fingers are no good, as we need the doors to close.

Are there any anti-slam products available for lightweight internal
doors?

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I need a solution to stop doors being slammed by teenage kids, which
in turn shakes the whole house.


Tell me about it...

We solved it instantly by threatening to unscrew daughter's
bedroom door and removing it completely, indefinitely.

Followed it through, just for one day, and then replaced it following
day after much begging amd cajoling and promises of no repetition.

Curiously enough, as a solution to slamming doors, it's worked an
absolute treat - better than any other 'punishment' we've ever had to
implement.

No reason why it can't be extended to other doors - ie, you slam my
kitchen door, then say bye bye to your bedroom door...

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I need a solution to stop doors being slammed by teenage kids, which
in turn shakes the whole house.

Mrs dg insists that it MUST be an ironmongery solution, and not
related physical or surgical treatment, or sending the kids off to a
care home.

I've looked at the pneumatic kitchen cabinet closers, but these would
not seem to fit on a normal internal door, and not be strong enough in
any case.

I've also looked at a dictator, but these seem obtrusive and need to
work with a door closer mechanism. I don't want any annoying self
closing doors

The sponge things to prevent younger children from trapping their
fingers are no good, as we need the doors to close.

Are there any anti-slam products available for lightweight internal
doors?

dg


I use a hydraulic (not pneumatic) door closer on the kitchen door and it
works fine. They are, however, not cheap - and must be installed in
accordance with the installation instructions.


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On 7 Oct, 14:24, dg wrote:
I need a solution to stop doors being slammed by teenage kids, which
in turn shakes the whole house.

Mrs dg insists that it MUST be an ironmongery solution, and not
related physical or surgical treatment, or sending the kids off to a
care home.

I've looked at the pneumatic kitchen cabinet closers, but these would
not seem to fit on a normal internal door, and not be strong enough in
any case.

I've also looked at a dictator, but these seem obtrusive and need to
work with a door closer mechanism. I don't want any annoying self
closing doors

The sponge things to prevent younger children from trapping their
fingers are no good, as we need the doors to close.

Are there any anti-slam products available for lightweight internal
doors?

dg


You bring back an old memory that my grandparents used to have a sort
of scarf tied around the lock from one knob to the other. I think I
was told it was to prevent slamming in their draughty Victorian house.
Experiment shows it does work (though I don't have a British Standard
teenager to do a proper test . The thickness of material has to be
selected according to the gap between door and frame such that it
requires a bit of force to actually close the door. Perhaps something
could be contrived with foam strip.

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On 2007-10-07 13:24:31 +0100, dg said:

I need a solution to stop doors being slammed by teenage kids, which
in turn shakes the whole house.

Mrs dg insists that it MUST be an ironmongery solution, and not
related physical or surgical treatment, or sending the kids off to a
care home.

I've looked at the pneumatic kitchen cabinet closers, but these would
not seem to fit on a normal internal door, and not be strong enough in
any case.

I've also looked at a dictator, but these seem obtrusive and need to
work with a door closer mechanism. I don't want any annoying self
closing doors

The sponge things to prevent younger children from trapping their
fingers are no good, as we need the doors to close.

Are there any anti-slam products available for lightweight internal
doors?

dg


I think that you need to work on Mrs dg.

It seems to be a common issue - not sure whether it's carelessness,
can't be bothered, f*ck you, ****ing against lampposts or a combination.

Unless you want to fit door closer mechanisms, which you say you don't,
and I agree with you, I never found a hardware solution in terms of the
actual doors being slammed.

What did work, and is a hardware solution, was to take the door off of
their bedrooms for a week or until the door banging stopped. Privacy
is one of the most valued things to a teenager and it did seem to work
better to address the issue rather than the symptom.







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I need a solution to stop doors being slammed by teenage kids, which
in turn shakes the whole house.


Tell me about it...


We solved it instantly by threatening to unscrew daughter's
bedroom door and removing it completely, indefinitely.


Followed it through, just for one day, and then replaced it following
day after much begging amd cajoling and promises of no repetition.


Curiously enough, as a solution to slamming doors, it's worked an
absolute treat - better than any other 'punishment' we've ever had to
implement.


No reason why it can't be extended to other doors - ie, you slam my
kitchen door, then say bye bye to your bedroom door...


Excellent advice, Pavlov. Best to fit the door on rising butts so it can
be easily removed if the training has a lapse.

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I need a solution to stop doors being slammed by teenage kids, which
in turn shakes the whole house.


Try a strip of draught proofing foam down the hinge side and one down the
opening side.
It will at least dull the thud.


Mrs dg insists that it MUST be an ironmongery solution, and not
related physical or surgical treatment, or sending the kids off to a
care home.


If you have kids like that then you need to look at training in being
assertive and crowd control.
Try taking one of their favourite things off them if they keep doing it if
they want to behave like five year olds treat them like five year olds.
At worst they will threaten to leave.


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Mrs dg insists that it MUST be an ironmongery solution, and not
related physical or surgical treatment, or sending the kids off to a
care home.

Parenting classes?

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I need a solution to stop doors being slammed by teenage kids, which
in turn shakes the whole house.

Mrs dg insists that it MUST be an ironmongery solution, and not
related physical or surgical treatment, or sending the kids off to a
care home.

I've looked at the pneumatic kitchen cabinet closers, but these would
not seem to fit on a normal internal door, and not be strong enough in
any case.

I've also looked at a dictator, but these seem obtrusive and need to
work with a door closer mechanism. I don't want any annoying self
closing doors

The sponge things to prevent younger children from trapping their
fingers are no good, as we need the doors to close.

Are there any anti-slam products available for lightweight internal
doors?

dg


I've had the oppposite problem, getting children to close doors. In fact
getting Spouse to close a door is difficult :-(

It's a pity you can't use a surgical, or even capital, solution ...

Mary





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Try taking one of their favourite things off them if they keep doing it if
they want to behave like five year olds treat them like five year olds.
At worst they will threaten to leave.


You call that 'worst'?

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Does anyone know of any solution for smug contributors who either
haven't had any teenage children or who have been blessed with less
"spirited" offspring? Do they really think that all teenage behaviour
is down to poor parenting?

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I need a solution to stop doors being slammed by teenage kids, which
in turn shakes the whole house.

Mrs dg insists that it MUST be an ironmongery solution, and not
related physical or surgical treatment, or sending the kids off to a
care home.

....
I've also looked at a dictator, but these seem obtrusive and need to
work with a door closer mechanism. I don't want any annoying self
closing doors...


There are door closers that also hold doors in the open position and only
self-close after the door has been moved away from the fully open position.
Look for an architectural ironmonger, who will be able to advise you exactly
what is available.

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Does anyone know of any solution for smug contributors who either
haven't had any teenage children or who have been blessed with less
"spirited" offspring? Do they really think that all teenage behaviour
is down to poor parenting?


Do I detect someone with a chip?
AFAICS no-one has said any such thing, yet.

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Does anyone know of any solution for smug contributors who either
haven't had any teenage children or who have been blessed with less
"spirited" offspring? Do they really think that all teenage behaviour
is down to poor parenting?


Do I detect someone with a chip?
AFAICS no-one has said any such thing, yet.


Yes, you're right, I was a bit quick to jump! Teenagers can bring the
worst out in you..................................... . I don't know
where they get it from!!!



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"spirited" offspring? Do they really think that all teenage behaviour
is down to poor parenting?


What do you think it down to then? hovering ufos?

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Does anyone know of any solution for smug contributors who either
haven't had any teenage children or who have been blessed with less
"spirited" offspring? Do they really think that all teenage behaviour
is down to poor parenting?


What do you think it down to then? hovering ufos?

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maybe genes, friendship difficulties, bullying, problems at school,
wider family issues, bereavement, emotional difficulties of various
kinds, frustrations of life, physical health issues, mental health
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either
haven't had any teenage children or who have been blessed with

less
"spirited" offspring? Do they really think that all teenage

behaviour
is down to poor parenting?


What do you think it down to then? hovering ufos?

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maybe genes, friendship difficulties, bullying, problems at school,
wider family issues, bereavement, emotional difficulties of various
kinds, frustrations of life, physical health issues, mental health
issues, etc etc


....and that's just the parents !

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What did work, and is a hardware solution, was to take the door off of
their bedrooms for a week or until the door banging stopped. Privacy
is one of the most valued things to a teenager and it did seem to work
better to address the issue rather than the symptom.


Teenagers are examinng their ability to affect the world at large, and
in whet way, and see how far that power extends.

A solution that basically shows them that their power does NOT extend to
replacing a door you have removed, is salutary, and basic. Go for it.

A teenager is a child desperately trying to become an adult. If they
behave like children, treat them like children.
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kent wrote:

Does anyone know of any solution for smug contributors who either
haven't had any teenage children or who have been blessed with less
"spirited" offspring? Do they really think that all teenage behaviour
is down to poor parenting?

No, but failure to attend to it in an appropriate manner is.


In my day it would have been a "good sound thrashing", but times change.
If te children are dependent on you - and they are, since they are at
home, then stop dong something they depend on you for. Like running
themn in te car tyo see their friends 'sorry: Too busy removing this
door. You will have to walk'


If they eat junk food, insteado of sitting down to food, stop buying it.
Its amazing what a starving person will eat. And how quickly you can
learn to cook when all thats in the fridge is raw vegetables and raw meat.

If they slam doors, remove them. How will they explain THAT to hgeo
friends 'Dad removed them because we kept slamming them'
Yea, right.

If they emabarrass you in public, embarass them right back.

I have had kids in the supermarket queue stick out their tongues at me.
Gurney them back. The last one that did that got so ****ing scared he
was still howling when his mother took him to the carpark. I banlked on
te fact that the little ******* did NOT do it when his mother was
looking. So she didn't see my response.. ;-)


If kids go looking for a reaction, make good and sure they get one. Just
don't make it the one they expect.

Never fall into the 'its not fair' trap. Tell them life's not fair, so
shut up.


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I need a solution to stop doors being slammed by teenage kids, which
in turn shakes the whole house.

Mrs dg insists that it MUST be an ironmongery solution, and not
related physical or surgical treatment, or sending the kids off to a
care home.

I've looked at the pneumatic kitchen cabinet closers, but these would
not seem to fit on a normal internal door, and not be strong enough in
any case.

I've also looked at a dictator, but these seem obtrusive and need to
work with a door closer mechanism. I don't want any annoying self
closing doors

The sponge things to prevent younger children from trapping their
fingers are no good, as we need the doors to close.

Are there any anti-slam products available for lightweight internal
doors?

dg


I've had the oppposite problem, getting children to close doors. In fact
getting Spouse to close a door is difficult :-(


Indeed. I try to explain that in terms of wrecking the planet. 100
lightbulbs left on = one door/window left open all evening with a
thermostatically controlled CH zone.

Of course then she come down in te morning and finds the REST of the
house at tropical temperatures and opens all the OTHER windows as well.

It's a pity you can't use a surgical, or even capital, solution ...

Divorce. Its the only way.

Mary


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When a door is slammed it forces the air in front of it forwards. If
the room is large then there is plenty of room for this air and the
slam can be impressive (especially if the windows are open). However
if the room is small and the windows are closed the air in the room
acts as a cushion making door slamming vey difficult. So the solution
is to live in a house with small rooms and to keep the windows closed!

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When a door is slammed it forces the air in front of it forwards. If
the room is large then there is plenty of room for this air and the
slam can be impressive (especially if the windows are open). However
if the room is small and the windows are closed the air in the room
acts as a cushion making door slamming vey difficult. So the solution
is to live in a house with small rooms and to keep the windows closed!


Yes but then you have increased territorial problems....

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In my day it would have been a "good sound thrashing",


Ah yes, violence, first reort of the stupid.

but times change. If te children are dependent on you - and they are,
since they are at home, then stop dong something they depend on you for.
Like running themn in te car tyo see their friends 'sorry: Too busy
removing this door. You will have to walk'


Is there some sort of fear of treating children like people?
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Is there some sort of fear of treating children like people?


Do you think children aren't people?
AIUI children, teenagers, adults are all people.



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I need a solution to stop doors being slammed by teenage kids, which
in turn shakes the whole house.

Mrs dg insists that it MUST be an ironmongery solution, and not
related physical or surgical treatment, or sending the kids off to a
care home.

...
I've also looked at a dictator, but these seem obtrusive and need to
work with a door closer mechanism. I don't want any annoying self
closing doors...


There are door closers that also hold doors in the open position and only
self-close after the door has been moved away from the fully open
position. Look for an architectural ironmonger, who will be able to advise
you exactly what is available.

Colin Bignell


What about fitting 3 or 4 cupboard soft closers - to share the additional
load?

Although I suppose a pushed door would tend to bounce off the buffers


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Is there some sort of fear of treating children like people?


Do you think children aren't people?


That's a bizarre conclusion.

AIUI children, teenagers, adults are all people.


And do you resort to thrashing adults who don't do what you say? And if
you do, do you have any teeth left?

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Is there some sort of fear of treating children like people?


Do you think children aren't people?


That's a bizarre conclusion.

AIUI children, teenagers, adults are all people.


And do you resort to thrashing adults who don't do what you say? And if
you do, do you have any teeth left?


Who mention thrashing anyone?
Is that what you do?



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kent wrote:
Does anyone know of any solution for smug contributors who either
haven't had any teenage children or who have been blessed with less
"spirited" offspring? Do they really think that all teenage behaviour
is down to poor parenting?


What do you think it down to then? hovering ufos?

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maybe genes, friendship difficulties, bullying, problems at school,
wider family issues, bereavement, emotional difficulties of various
kinds, frustrations of life, physical health issues, mental health
issues, etc etc


And not having dealt with these issues properly is whose fault?
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Is there some sort of fear of treating children like people?

Do you think children aren't people?


That's a bizarre conclusion.

AIUI children, teenagers, adults are all people.


And do you resort to thrashing adults who don't do what you say? And if
you do, do you have any teeth left?


Who mention thrashing anyone?
Is that what you do?


Are you as stupid as you seem?

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'In my day it would have been a "good sound thrashing"'
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Is there some sort of fear of treating children like people?

Do you think children aren't people?

That's a bizarre conclusion.

AIUI children, teenagers, adults are all people.

And do you resort to thrashing adults who don't do what you say? And if
you do, do you have any teeth left?


Who mention thrashing anyone?
Is that what you do?


Are you as stupid as you seem?

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'In my day it would have been a "good sound thrashing"'


That was so far back as to be pre-history.
I still don't see what your point is other than to be argumentative so I
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That was so far back as to be pre-history.


Admitting you were wrong would have been more graceful.

I still don't see what your point is other than to be argumentative so I
will end it here.


The only being argumentative here was you, again.
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maybe genes, friendship difficulties, bullying, problems at school,
wider family issues, bereavement, emotional difficulties of various
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And which of the above stop teenagers from closing a door quietly?


Or leaving them open?

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Is there some sort of fear of treating children like people?


Do you think children aren't people?
AIUI children, teenagers, adults are all people.


What amazes me is that most children, even the worst (in our eyes) grow into
sensible, responsible adults. Just as we did ...

I remember a neighbour despairing that she was rearing juvenile delinquents,
I thought they were delightful - just as she thought our five were. Parents
see things others don't, perhaps we expect/ed too much.

Hers became the classic doctor and lawyer ... mine didn't but they are now
adults who give more to society than they take from it.

And shout at their children for banging doors or leaving them open :-)

Time heals most ills. Except that it will get worse before it gets better
:-(

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Is there some sort of fear of treating children like people?

Do you think children aren't people?
AIUI children, teenagers, adults are all people.


What amazes me is that most children, even the worst (in our eyes) grow into
sensible, responsible adults. Just as we did ...

I remember a neighbour despairing that she was rearing juvenile delinquents,
I thought they were delightful - just as she thought our five were. Parents
see things others don't, perhaps we expect/ed too much.

Hers became the classic doctor and lawyer ... mine didn't but they are now
adults who give more to society than they take from it.

And shout at their children for banging doors or leaving them open :-)

Time heals most ills. Except that it will get worse before it gets better
:-(

Mary

Mary


IME if teenagers behave like 5 year olds it's because at 5 they weren't
allowed to behave like teenagers.
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Is there some sort of fear of treating children like people?
Do you think children aren't people?
AIUI children, teenagers, adults are all people.


What amazes me is that most children, even the worst (in our eyes) grow
into sensible, responsible adults. Just as we did ...

I remember a neighbour despairing that she was rearing juvenile
delinquents, I thought they were delightful - just as she thought our
five were. Parents see things others don't, perhaps we expect/ed too
much.

Hers became the classic doctor and lawyer ... mine didn't but they are
now adults who give more to society than they take from it.

And shout at their children for banging doors or leaving them open :-)

Time heals most ills. Except that it will get worse before it gets better :-(

Mary

Mary


IME if teenagers behave like 5 year olds it's because at 5 they weren't
allowed to behave like teenagers.


That's profound....


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