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How do you put the shine back on Bakalite?
my clarinet needs polishing up as its gone dull,dunno how old it is?
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How do you put the shine back on Bakalite?
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:51:41 GMT, "George"
wrote: my clarinet needs polishing up as its gone dull,dunno how old it is? IF it's Bakelite then you can buy Bakelite Polish .You'll probably need to Google for it . I have also successfuly used T Cut for car bodywork . Stuart |
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How do you put the shine back on Bakalite?
"Stuart B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:51:41 GMT, "George" wrote: my clarinet needs polishing up as its gone dull,dunno how old it is? IF it's Bakelite then you can buy Bakelite Polish .You'll probably need to Google for it . I have also successfuly used T Cut for car bodywork . Stuart Could be ebony? but this is an old clairinet about 1930's B flat. T-cut, now why did I think of that. :-) Cheers. |
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How do you put the shine back on Bakalite?
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:51:41 GMT, "George"
wrote: my clarinet needs polishing up as its gone dull,dunno how old it is? If it's a synthetic body it won't be Bakelite....it'll be Ebonite. If it's any more recent than about 1960 it could well be one of many other hard rubber or plastic compounds...though these tend not to dull. As ebonite ages it breaks down at the surface and typically goes a dull brown/green colour. It's possible to cut the surface back to reveal the original colour, but it's a lot of hard work - and because the breakdown is an irreversible chemical one the new finish seldom lasts very long. Exposure to light ( particularly sunlight ), air pollution, acidic compounds and heat ( including warm water ) will turn the surface green again. All of those things happen if you simply take the instrument out of the case and handle it. Cutting back the surface is best done with a buffing mop and bar of medium grit soap ( Tripoli..or brown soap ) - but extreme care is needed otherwise the friction of the wheel on the job will turn the ebonite green again. Polishing fluids aren't recommended - the stuff gets into the pores, and the fluids themselves often react with the ebonite. More often than not the polish residues turn white when they dry, then people attempt to wash them off in warm water....and it's back to square one. Without a buffing machine, the best method of cutting back the finish is 0000 gauge wire wool. The drawback is that it leaves a matt finish - but then most true ebonite clarinets never had a completely glossy finish anyway. The wire wool must be used dry. It could, of course, be made of wood - typically a blackwood, though early 20th century clarinets were often made from Cocobolo. Best way to test without the benefit of an experienced eye is to shave a *very* fine slice off one of the tenon joints ( the sticky-out bit with a band of cork on, on one of the ends of the joints... ) then burn the shaving and take a whiff of the fumes. If it smells like satan farting in a kebab shop - it's ebonite. Professionally speaking, it's not worth it. If it's a collectable make ( Conn, Buescher...) your work will devalue it. Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
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How do you put the shine back on Bakalite?
George wrote:
my clarinet needs polishing up as its gone dull,dunno how old it is? Bakasfluid? |
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"Stuart B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:51:41 GMT, "George" wrote: my clarinet needs polishing up as its gone dull,dunno how old it is? IF it's Bakelite then you can buy Bakelite Polish .You'll probably need to Google for it . I have also successfuly used T Cut for car bodywork . Stuart Could be ebony? but this is an old clairinet about 1930's B flat. T-cut, now why did I think of that. :-) Go and find your local car body shop and ask them what is the gentlest polish that they use. I can't tell you any more, as my son knows the name of it, but he is not available right now. An old friend of mine has a son that is into car painting, that is how we found out about it. Apparently, T Cut is way down the list of polishes. HTH Dave |
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:23:31 +0100, Dave
wrote: George wrote: "Stuart B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:51:41 GMT, "George" wrote: my clarinet needs polishing up as its gone dull,dunno how old it is? IF it's Bakelite then you can buy Bakelite Polish .You'll probably need to Google for it . I have also successfuly used T Cut for car bodywork . Stuart Could be ebony? but this is an old clairinet about 1930's B flat. T-cut, now why did I think of that. :-) Go and find your local car body shop and ask them what is the gentlest polish that they use. I can't tell you any more, as my son knows the name of it, but he is not available right now. An old friend of mine has a son that is into car painting, that is how we found out about it. Apparently, T Cut is way down the list of polishes. HTH Dave Well T-Cut isn't really a polish . |
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How do you put the shine back on Bakalite?
In message , George
writes my clarinet needs polishing up as its gone dull,dunno how old it is? http://www.wikihow.com/Clean-and-Tak...-Your-Clarinet -- dave @ stejonda |
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How do you put the shine back on Bakalite?
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"George" writes: my clarinet needs polishing up as its gone dull,dunno how old it is? You need to practice more, and maybe get a new reed. ;-) -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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How do you put the shine back on Bakalite?
"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message ... In article , "George" writes: my clarinet needs polishing up as its gone dull,dunno how old it is? You need to practice more, and maybe get a new reed. ;-) -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] My Beatles compositions polish up well thanks and I have a full set of new reeds. Thanks all for response. |
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Abrasiveness of cleaners
Message-ID: from Dave
contained the following: Go and find your local car body shop and ask them what is the gentlest polish that they use. I can't tell you any more, as my son knows the name of it, but he is not available right now. An old friend of mine has a son that is into car painting, that is how we found out about it. Apparently, T Cut is way down the list of polishes. I wonder if there is a scale of abrasiveness? I'd guess it goes something like this, least abrasive at the bottom Toothpaste Hob Brite hob cleaner Duraglit wadding Brasso Metal polish Car wax polish T- cut Jif (ok...Cif) Fine wire wool Ajax Anyone like to add or re-order the list? You can get an idea of the abrasiveness of a substance by putting a little on your thumbnail and rubbing it gently with the other nail -- Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email) It's only Usenet, no one dies. My opinions, not the committee's, mine. Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/ |
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Abrasiveness of cleaners
Geoff Berrow wrote: I wonder if there is a scale of abrasiveness? I'd guess it goes something like this, least abrasive at the bottom Toothpaste Hob Brite hob cleaner Duraglit wadding Brasso Metal polish Car wax polish T- cut Jif (ok...Cif) Fine wire wool Ajax Anyone like to add or re-order the list? You can get an idea of the abrasiveness of a substance by putting a little on your thumbnail and rubbing it gently with the other nail I recently spent six days cleaning three rooms of a house occupied by an old lady. It started out as a two-day task to do the house, but in the end the time was spent on the three rooms she actually lives in. While not bad, it nevertheless hadn't been cleaned for twenty-plus years, apart from light vacuuming. What rapidly became obvious is that own-name supermarket cleaners wouldn't touch the deposits on painted or glass surfaces, only the branded cleaners could cut through the grime. |
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Abrasiveness of cleaners
Geoff Berrow wrote:
I wonder if there is a scale of abrasiveness? I'd guess it goes something like this, least abrasive at the bottom Toothpaste Hob Brite hob cleaner Duraglit wadding Brasso Metal polish Car wax polish T- cut Jif (ok...Cif) Fine wire wool Ajax Anyone like to add or re-order the list? Are you sure you don't mean least abrasive at the top? Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh. |
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Abrasiveness of cleaners
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Geoff Berrow wrote: I wonder if there is a scale of abrasiveness? I'd guess it goes something like this, least abrasive at the bottom Toothpaste Hob Brite hob cleaner Duraglit wadding Brasso Metal polish Car wax polish T- cut Jif (ok...Cif) Fine wire wool Ajax Anyone like to add or re-order the list? A car wax may or may not have an abrasive added. -- *Husband and cat lost -- reward for cat Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dixon contained the following: Anyone like to add or re-order the list? Are you sure you don't mean least abrasive at the top? Of course I do :-) -- Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email) It's only Usenet, no one dies. My opinions, not the committee's, mine. Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/ |
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Message-ID: from Dave Plowman (News)
contained the following: Anyone like to add or re-order the list? A car wax may or may not have an abrasive added. True. -- Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email) It's only Usenet, no one dies. My opinions, not the committee's, mine. Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/ |
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