Am trying to plan the position of a tumble dryer. Does the vent hose
have to go out the wall behind the dryer, or can it go out a wall to
the side of the dryer without having the dryer project out beyond the
worktop?
Cheers

On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 04:08:19 -0700 someone who may be nafuk
wrote this:-

Am trying to plan the position of a tumble dryer. Does the vent hose
have to go out the wall behind the dryer, or can it go out a wall to
the side of the dryer without having the dryer project out beyond the
worktop?

That depends on the dryer and where it has outlets. The manufacturer
of your proposed dryer should have this information on their web
site.

Some dryers can have a rear hose bent through ninety degrees without
hitting anything in one direction but not in the other, due to the
shape of the back.

Also consider "flat" ducts.

All ductwork should slope gently away from the machine to the outlet
grille, to avoid runs of condensation.

On the larger scale why have a hose pipe conveying expensively
heated air directly to the outside? Why not use a condensing drier?

On the even larger scale why use any extra energy to dry clothes. A
traditional pulley, as they are called here, dries clothes without
any extra energy consumption and most houses can have one or more
fitted. http://www.castinstyle.co.uk/product.php/285/0/



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On 8 Aug, 12:40, David Hansen wrote:

On the even larger scale why use any extra energy to dry clothes. A
traditional pulley, as they are called here, dries clothes without
any extra energy consumption and most houses can have one or more
fitted.http://www.castinstyle.co.uk/product.php/285/0/

I have to agree. We have a combi boiler in the utility room where the
washer and (little used) dryer are. In summer clothes can dry
outside, and in winter when the combi is more active it heats the air
in the utility - we've got one of those pulley clothes driers which
therefore makes the use of all of this hot air and dries the clothes
in no time at all.

Matt

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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 04:08:19 -0700 someone who may be nafuk
wrote this:-

Am trying to plan the position of a tumble dryer. Does the vent hose
have to go out the wall behind the dryer, or can it go out a wall to
the side of the dryer without having the dryer project out beyond the
worktop?

That depends on the dryer and where it has outlets. The manufacturer
of your proposed dryer should have this information on their web
site.


Or on the instructions with it assuming it's not 2nd hand without them.


Some dryers can have a rear hose bent through ninety degrees without
hitting anything in one direction but not in the other, due to the
shape of the back.

Thats what flexible ducting is for.



Also consider "flat" ducts.

All ductwork should slope gently away from the machine to the outlet
grille, to avoid runs of condensation.

Never had condensation problems with the convoluted flexible ducting and
our's runs UP to a window around 2ft higher than the putlet.



On the larger scale why have a hose pipe conveying expensively
heated air directly to the outside? Why not use a condensing drier?

Personally I don't like them as they blow hot air into an already hot room,
sometimes a kitchen as that's where some are mounted especially in smaller
premises where the butler or maid have limited living space ;-)



On the even larger scale why use any extra energy to dry clothes. A
traditional pulley, as they are called here, dries clothes without
any extra energy consumption and most houses can have one or more
fitted. http://www.castinstyle.co.uk/product.php/285/0/

Lovely idea........if you have somewhere to put it, someone to install it
assuming limited DIY skills, a ceiling strong enough to hang it from and are
strong enough to haul a full load of damp washing up over 7ft.

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 06:51:24 +0100 someone who may be "R"
wrote this:-

On the even larger scale why use any extra energy to dry clothes. A
traditional pulley, as they are called here, dries clothes without
any extra energy consumption and most houses can have one or more
fitted. http://www.castinstyle.co.uk/product.php/285/0/

Lovely idea........if you have somewhere to put it,

Tumble driers also need somewhere to go.

someone to install it
assuming limited DIY skills,

If someone is able to install a duct through a wall, which the
original posting was about, then I think it extremely unlikely they
will not have the skills to fit a pulley.

a ceiling strong enough to hang it from

Most ceilings have large bits of wood above them, holding up the
floor above as well as being what the ceiling is attached to. The
pulley can be attached to these.

and are
strong enough to haul a full load of damp washing up over 7ft.

People were strong enough in the past. Have people become weaklings
recently?


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On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 06:51:24 +0100, R wrote:

On the larger scale why have a hose pipe conveying expensively
heated air directly to the outside? Why not use a condensing drier?

Personally I don't like them as they blow hot air into an already hot
room,

The two condensing dryers we have had don't vent into the room they
recirculate the air within the machine and condense the moisture out of it
with cold water as it goes round. This water use might not be a good idea
if you are on a water meter. Both of these machines dumped more heat into
the room when doing a boil wash than when drying.

On the even larger scale why use any extra energy to dry clothes. A
traditional pulley, as they are called here, dries clothes without
any extra energy consumption

er no the energy to evaporate the water has to come from somewhere. In
this case the space in the house, meaning that the space heating may come
on for a bit more than it would without. However that is minimal IMHO, the
biggest snag is the increase in internal humidity. A modern sealed box
house would really need to have a window or two opened or forced
ventilation of some sort (bathroom door open and fan on).

Lovely idea........if you have somewhere to put it,

Stair wells are quite handy.

Someone to install it assuming limited DIY skills, a ceiling strong
enough to hang it from

Isn't this person about to hack a hole through a wall for vent pipe. A
couple of screw pullies into the ceiling joists strikes me as somewaht
simpler.

and are strong enough to haul a full load of damp washing up over 7ft.

The washer doesn't have a spin cycle? The washing would be heavy without
being spun but then it would also be dripping and not particulary suitable
for hanging up indoors...

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Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:18:05 +0100 (BST) someone who may be "Dave
Liquorice" wrote this:-

On the even larger scale why use any extra energy to dry clothes. A
traditional pulley, as they are called here, dries clothes without
any extra energy consumption

er no the energy to evaporate the water has to come from somewhere.

Obviously.

In
this case the space in the house, meaning that the space heating may come
on for a bit more than it would without.

Most unlikely. The heat concerned is at high level and, in the
absence of heat recovery, would be percolating out of the house
anyway.

However that is minimal IMHO, the
biggest snag is the increase in internal humidity. A modern sealed box
house would really need to have a window or two opened or forced
ventilation of some sort (bathroom door open and fan on).

Ventilation certainly needs to be considered. Ideally this would
take the form of whole house ventilation, especially in a "modern
sealed box".


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