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Best vacuum cleaner for DIY?
Can anyone recommend a decent vacuum cleaner for DIY work which
doesn't need it's filters cleaning all the time or just burns out. I've bought a few bag and bagless ones but when sucking up plaster, brick and wood dust they all block up in no time and then cleaning their so-called washable filters does little except to set harden the crap onto it. Just looking for a decent, reliable vacuum cleaner under £100 with a decent capacity. Is this possible? |
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On 17 May 2007 05:58:25 -0700, wrote:
Can anyone recommend a decent vacuum cleaner for DIY work which doesn't need it's filters cleaning all the time or just burns out. I've bought a few bag and bagless ones but when sucking up plaster, brick and wood dust they all block up in no time and then cleaning their so-called washable filters does little except to set harden the crap onto it. Just looking for a decent, reliable vacuum cleaner under £100 with a decent capacity. Is this possible? henry. Worked so far. Builder bloke had one but his missis nicked it for the house so he had to buy another. -- http://wwww.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery http://wwww.freedeliveryuk.co.uk Or get it delivered for free |
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I haven't had any problems with one of these: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...23140&ts=14237 Ditto - quite a nice, tough vac. We've used it for all sorts of dusty stuff, and so far so good. -- Grunff Diamagnetic levitation: http://www.shinyshack.com/product.php?prid=211095 |
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Can anyone recommend a decent vacuum cleaner for DIY work which doesn't need it's filters cleaning all the time or just burns out. I've bought a few bag and bagless ones but when sucking up plaster, brick and wood dust they all block up in no time and then cleaning their so-called washable filters does little except to set harden the crap onto it. Just looking for a decent, reliable vacuum cleaner under £100 with a decent capacity. Is this possible? I haven't had any problems with one of these: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...23140&ts=14237 It has so far coped with cleaning up the lime plaster stripping in a room, and all the woodworking/router dust extraction I have done since I brought it, only had it since the beginning of the year though. |
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... wrote: Can anyone recommend a decent vacuum cleaner for DIY work which doesn't need it's filters cleaning all the time or just burns out. I've bought a few bag and bagless ones but when sucking up plaster, brick and wood dust they all block up in no time and then cleaning their so-called washable filters does little except to set harden the crap onto it. Just looking for a decent, reliable vacuum cleaner under £100 with a decent capacity. Is this possible? I haven't had any problems with one of these: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...23140&ts=14237 It has so far coped with cleaning up the lime plaster stripping in a room, and all the woodworking/router dust extraction I have done since I brought it, only had it since the beginning of the year though. I agree, fantatsic vacuum for DIY.. Also available as Wickes own brand. Worth buying the wet/dry fillter so no messing with bags and also brush attachement as well. If I was doing it again I would buy the more expensive Earlex model that has a 13A socket on it that automatically turns the vacuum on when you turn your power tool on. http://www.earlex.co.uk/html/wd_html/wd1200p.htm |
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Ian_m wrote:
"Cod Roe" wrote in message ... wrote: Can anyone recommend a decent vacuum cleaner for DIY work which doesn't need it's filters cleaning all the time or just burns out. I've bought a few bag and bagless ones but when sucking up plaster, brick and wood dust they all block up in no time and then cleaning their so-called washable filters does little except to set harden the crap onto it. Just looking for a decent, reliable vacuum cleaner under £100 with a decent capacity. Is this possible? I haven't had any problems with one of these: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...23140&ts=14237 It has so far coped with cleaning up the lime plaster stripping in a room, and all the woodworking/router dust extraction I have done since I brought it, only had it since the beginning of the year though. I agree, fantatsic vacuum for DIY.. Also available as Wickes own brand. Yes I've got the Wickes one - it's OK but not a patch on the Henry which is at home for domestic use only! But it's way cheaper than Henry too (I think the Wickes version may be cheaper than Screwfix?) My major gripe with it may sound silly but it's a real one: for some bizarre reason they omitted any form of carrying handle! To lift with one hand (the other one is holding the toolbox), you have to grip it under the lip of the lid, whereupon it tips of course - and all the tools (neatly mounted on pegs on the top) all fall off. One day I'm going to dismantle it and fit my own handle which I'm sure won't be hard, but I've a few million other tuits to round before that one. David |
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"Cod Roe" wrote in message ... wrote: Can anyone recommend a decent vacuum cleaner for DIY work which doesn't need it's filters cleaning all the time or just burns out. I've bought a few bag and bagless ones but when sucking up plaster, brick and wood dust they all block up in no time and then cleaning their so-called washable filters does little except to set harden the crap onto it. Just looking for a decent, reliable vacuum cleaner under £100 with a decent capacity. Is this possible? I haven't had any problems with one of these: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...23140&ts=14237 It has so far coped with cleaning up the lime plaster stripping in a room, and all the woodworking/router dust extraction I have done since I brought it, only had it since the beginning of the year though. I've had one for over 6 years, buy a spare filter (£5) and change often, wash it and let it dry, hence the need for two! That way the filters last for years. Also available are large diameter hoses, see http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Tools_Power_Index/Wet_and_Dry_Vaccum_Cleaners/index.html Peter |
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 17:54:38 GMT, Lobster wrote:
My major gripe with it may sound silly but it's a real one: for some bizarre reason they omitted any form of carrying handle! The one with the power socket has a handle. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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writes Just looking for a decent, reliable vacuum cleaner under £100 with a decent capacity. Is this possible? I bought an Aquavac at least twenty years ago, and am delighted with it. Sucks and blows, wet or dry, large and small diameter pipes/fittings, so will cope with anything from a flooded kitchen floor (washing machine!) to large wood shavings. I have a Post Office in NE Scotland and, after heavy snow, the office floor and carpet are swimming. The Aquavac copes wonderfully. Bought mine from Argos, but they do not seem to stock them, now. -- Graeme |
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"Cod Roe" wrote in message ... wrote: Can anyone recommend a decent vacuum cleaner for DIY work which doesn't need it's filters cleaning all the time or just burns out. I've bought a few bag and bagless ones but when sucking up plaster, brick and wood dust they all block up in no time and then cleaning their so-called washable filters does little except to set harden the crap onto it. Just looking for a decent, reliable vacuum cleaner under £100 with a decent capacity. Is this possible? I haven't had any problems with one of these: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...23140&ts=14237 It has so far coped with cleaning up the lime plaster stripping in a room, and all the woodworking/router dust extraction I have done since I brought it, only had it since the beginning of the year though. I agree, fantatsic vacuum for DIY.. Also available as Wickes own brand. Worth buying the wet/dry fillter so no messing with bags and also brush attachement as well. If I was doing it again I would buy the more expensive Earlex model that has a 13A socket on it that automatically turns the vacuum on when you turn your power tool on. http://www.earlex.co.uk/html/wd_html/wd1200p.htm I've had one of those for several years, only problem has been the noise (though I wear ear protectors with power tools) then someone on here recommended getting the wide bore hose kit and connecting it to the outlet as a baffle. This cuts the noise appreciably. When using the wide bore hose I put the small bore on the outlet instead. I have connected sanders, saws, routers etc to it with no problems. The wide bore hose fits the outlet of the Trend Mk2 router table. Starts up with the tool and runs on after you switch the tool off to clear the hose. When trenching with the router I retract the bit, switch off and run the router over the rebate etc again to take out the remaining dust. Another advantage, it acts as an extension cord for your power tool. I have just power sanded our walls prior to painting and there was much less dust around than when I went over places by hand. If it broke I would go out and buy another immediately. Can't say better than that. Peter -- Add my middle initial to email me. It has become attached to a country www.the-brights.net |
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Cod Roe wrote: I haven't had any problems with one of these: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...23140&ts=14237 Ditto - quite a nice, tough vac. We've used it for all sorts of dusty stuff, and so far so good. Thritto - survived over a year of brutality, unscathed. |
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On May 17, 7:32 pm, "Peter Andrews"
wrote: "Cod Roe" wrote in message ... wrote: Can anyone recommend a decent vacuum cleaner for DIY work which doesn't need it's filters cleaning all the time or just burns out. I've bought a few bag and bagless ones but when sucking up plaster, brick and wood dust they all block up in no time and then cleaning their so-called washable filters does little except to set harden the crap onto it. Just looking for a decent, reliable vacuum cleaner under £100 with a decent capacity. Is this possible? I haven't had any problems with one of these: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...23140&ts=14237 It has so far coped with cleaning up the lime plaster stripping in a room, and all the woodworking/router dust extraction I have done since I brought it, only had it since the beginning of the year though. I've had one for over 6 years, buy a spare filter (£5) and change often, wash it and let it dry, hence the need for two! That way the filters last for years. Also available are large diameter hoses, see http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Tools_Power_Index/Wet_and_Dry_... Peter Okay, ta all. I was going to get a Henry. Seems the Earlex is well rated but it looks identical to one I bought under a different brand, all the filters look the same too. Except mine blocked up with plaster and wood dust and the motor overheated. I suppose I could always return it if it screws up. Cheers! |
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On 18 May, 20:12, wrote:
On May 17, 7:32 pm, "Peter Andrews" wrote: "Cod Roe" wrote in message ... wrote: Can anyone recommend a decent vacuum cleaner for DIY work which doesn't need it's filters cleaning all the time or just burns out. I've bought a few bag and bagless ones but when sucking up plaster, brick and wood dust they all block up in no time and then cleaning their so-called washable filters does little except to set harden the crap onto it. Just looking for a decent, reliable vacuum cleaner under £100 with a decent capacity. Is this possible? I haven't had any problems with one of these: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...23140&ts=14237 It has so far coped with cleaning up the lime plaster stripping in a room, and all the woodworking/router dust extraction I have done since I brought it, only had it since the beginning of the year though. I've had one for over 6 years, buy a spare filter (£5) and change often, wash it and let it dry, hence the need for two! That way the filters last for years. Also available are large diameter hoses, see http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Tools_Power_Index/Wet_and_Dry_.... Peter Okay, ta all. I was going to get a Henry. Seems the Earlex is well rated but it looks identical to one I bought under a different brand, all the filters look the same too. Except mine blocked up with plaster and wood dust and the motor overheated. I suppose I could always return it if it screws up. Cheers! I get good results with a cyclone - would avoid diesoons though. Makes a huge difference when doing dust creating work. One room I did without it, place a mess, everywhere covered with dust. Another room had it taped to the tool, most of the room didnt need any cleaning at all. NT |
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On 19 May, 11:19, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
It is unfortunate that no one produces portable workshop cyclones. Some people have made their own, I dont know how good the performance is. Doesnt look like a difficult project though. NT |
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In article ,
Andy Hall writes: On 2007-05-19 11:19:13 +0100, (Andrew Gabriel) said: It is unfortunate that no one produces portable workshop cyclones. The reason for this is Dyson owns all the patents on making small cyclones work, and either he has to licence them to someone to build workshop versions, or he has to do it himself, neither of which seem to have happened. I suspect the market is too small to fund even a fraction of the development work which Dyson does from his domestic sales. There used to be a ruggedised DC04 (looks identical, but is made from a different plastic), but it cost a fortune. Actually they do.... http://www.dustdeputy.com/ I don't see anything portable. It's very easy to make a large cyclone and they've been understood for decades. Making a small cyclone (i.e. portable) which works is where Dyson excels, and due to his patents on his related invensions, no one else can do so unless they could find completely different ways of achieving the same ends. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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It is unfortunate that no one produces portable workshop cyclones. Some people have made their own, I dont know how good the performance is. Doesnt look like a difficult project though. Its not: http://www.internode.co.uk/cyclone/ It catches most stuff, but not having the tight taper to the cyclone does not achieve enough acceleration of the airflow to spin out the finest stuff. Having said that I use an old vax to suck through it with a conventional paper bag in it. The cyclone catches enough fine stuff that the paper bag does not need changing that often. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Andrew Gabriel wrote:
It is unfortunate that no one produces portable workshop cyclones. The reason for this is Dyson owns all the patents on making small cyclones work, and either he has to licence them to someone to build workshop versions, or he has to do it himself, neither of which seem to have happened. I suspect the market is too small to fund even a fraction of the development work which Dyson does from his domestic sales. There used to be a ruggedised DC04 (looks identical, but is made from a different plastic), but it cost a fortune. This has to be one of the best sites for research into cyclone collection for the workshop: http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 15:45:29 +0100, John Rumm
mused: wrote: It is unfortunate that no one produces portable workshop cyclones. Some people have made their own, I dont know how good the performance is. Doesnt look like a difficult project though. Its not: http://www.internode.co.uk/cyclone/ It catches most stuff, but not having the tight taper to the cyclone does not achieve enough acceleration of the airflow to spin out the finest stuff. Having said that I use an old vax to suck through it with a conventional paper bag in it. The cyclone catches enough fine stuff that the paper bag does not need changing that often. I've just built a proof of concept, hence all the tape holding this one together. http://profile.imageshack.us/user/l488643/images/detail/#527/diycyclone1sr9.jpg (Due to the unique way in which Imageshack works, you start at the end and work backwards) Quick tests seem to work, the vacuum cleaner was emptied and various dusts\chippings etc... were cleaned up and all of them ended up in the bucket. If I manage to regain some space in the garage for some tools then I'll be building a larger one. This would be worth experimenting with a bit more I believe. -- Regards, Stuart. |
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On 2007-05-20 13:40:10 +0100, (Andrew
Gabriel) said: In article , Andy Hall writes: On 2007-05-19 11:19:13 +0100, (Andrew Gabriel) said: It is unfortunate that no one produces portable workshop cyclones. The reason for this is Dyson owns all the patents on making small cyclones work, and either he has to licence them to someone to build workshop versions, or he has to do it himself, neither of which seem to have happened. I suspect the market is too small to fund even a fraction of the development work which Dyson does from his domestic sales. There used to be a ruggedised DC04 (looks identical, but is made from a different plastic), but it cost a fortune. Actually they do.... http://www.dustdeputy.com/ I don't see anything portable The small one on the left next to the Shop Vac . It's very easy to make a large cyclone and they've been understood for decades. Making a small cyclone (i.e. portable) which works is where Dyson excels, and due to his patents on his related invensions, no one else can do so unless they could find completely different ways of achieving the same ends. |
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 18:32:27 +0000, Peter Andrews wrote:
I've had one for over 6 years, buy a spare filter (£5) and change often, wash it and let it dry, hence the need for two! That way the filters last for years. Where do you get filters (I assume you mean the corrugated wet&dry ones) for a fiver? I've not done better than £10 in Wickes. -- John Stumbles Pessimists are never disappointed |
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 16:05:53 +0100, Cod Roe wrote:
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...23140&ts=14237 PROS: + cheap + blows as well as sucks (useful sometimes) + wet and dry CONS: - you do need the wet+dry filter (£10 from Wickes) - you do need to clean the filter, and sometimes that means washing it and drying it, especially if you've been sucking up lots of fine dust - mixing wet with fine dust blocks the filter double-quick fast: I usually take the filter out for sucking up water (flooded floors etc) and empty out & put the dry filter back for dust - when sucking up lots of water it can spit out (often filthy) water from around the motor housing as well as the blow orifice: if I'm working in someone's house with it I station it outdoors, or put a dustsheet over it to catch the spray - the filter just pushes onto its housing and can slide down, especially if the cleaner is bumped on the floor, and then you can get clouds of dust blown out of it - no handle, short mains cable, no cable, hose or tool storage -- John Stumbles What is a simile like? |
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 16:05:53 +0100, Cod Roe wrote: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...23140&ts=14237 CONS: - no handle, short mains cable, no cable, hose or tool storage It's got tool storage though (sort-of) - they slot on to those little bumps on the lid (which is more than the Great God Henry has!) David |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 22:23:07 +0000, Lobster wrote:
It's got tool storage though (sort-of) - they slot on to those little bumps on the lid (which is more than the Great God Henry has!) Which is so pants I CBA to even mention it ;-) My Henry came with a draw-string bag to keep small tools in, which you can loop round the handle so it gets in the way in a really annoying way. Until SWMBO takes it off to avoid the annoyance and loses it which is even more of a wind-up :-( -- John Stumbles Things don't like being anthropomorphised. |
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wrote: Can anyone recommend a decent vacuum cleaner for DIY work which doesn't need it's filters cleaning all the time or just burns out. I've bought a few bag and bagless ones but when sucking up plaster, brick and wood dust they all block up in no time and then cleaning their so-called washable filters does little except to set harden the crap onto it. Just looking for a decent, reliable vacuum cleaner under £100 with a decent capacity. Is this possible? I haven't had any problems with one of these: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...23140&ts=14237 It has so far coped with cleaning up the lime plaster stripping in a room, and all the woodworking/router dust extraction I have done since I brought it, only had it since the beginning of the year though. I just had a look at the 1200 (the one with the power socket) but it seems to be quite small with a huge filter so not much space for "suckings". Don't you find that it fills-up fast? Dave |
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 16:32:08 +0100, NoSpam wrote:
I just had a look at the 1200 (the one with the power socket) but it seems to be quite small with a huge filter so not much space for "suckings". Don't you find that it fills-up fast? Not that fast, by the time it's getting full it's also getting quite heavy. Particulary if you are are sucking up dust/rubble. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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