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6mm Cable Insulated Size
Hi all
Just a quick note/question regarding the external dimensions of 6mm T&E. Our kitchen is a single storey extension onto the original property, so the original cooker feed had been jointed under a bedroom floor. As I was splitting the kitchen onto a separate ring and running new power, lighting and earth cables, I decided to stick a fresh length of 6mm through for the sake of good form (and also to remove a section slightly damaged by recent plumbing works). As I am not "allowed" to do work "in" the kitchen per se, I have run the new cable as far as the kitchen loft and jointed to the old drop to the existing isolator for now. I have left enough spare in the loft so that it can be pulled down to a new isolator when we finally fix a layout for the room. So, the question...... The external dimensions over the insulation for the new cable were significantly different (smaller) to the older cable. So much so that we ended up checking the cable strands to reassure ourselves that the new cable was actually 6mm! This cable is new colours , but was an "off-cut" and therefore didn't come on a labelled drum. The labelling on the cable itself (from memory) said something like BASEC 6004 4 2005. The number 4 in the middle was the concern - 4mm cable? Anyway, having confirmed the conductor size at 6mm sq, why are the over-insulation dimensions so much smaller? Thinner insulation to cut manufacuring costs? Thinner insulation to allow better heat disipation? Thinner insulation because the modern materials used are superior? Anyone got any other ideas? I would expect that the length of cable removed was about 20 years old. TIA Phil |
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6mm Cable Insulated Size
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TheScullster wrote: Anyway, having confirmed the conductor size at 6mm sq, why are the over-insulation dimensions so much smaller? Thinner insulation to cut manufacuring costs? Thinner insulation to allow better heat disipation? Thinner insulation because the modern materials used are superior? Anyone got any other ideas? I would expect that the length of cable removed was about 20 years old. There seems to have been a re-think about the thickness of insulation required (which would be mainly for mechanical protection) - the same has happened to car cable. -- *Gargling is a good way to see if your throat leaks. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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6mm Cable Insulated Size
TheScullster wrote:
The number 4 in the middle was the concern - 4mm cable? Pass. The conductors of 6 mm^2 have 7 strands of 1.04 mm dia. (7/1.04). For 4 mm^2 the stranding is 7/0.85. Anyway, having confirmed the conductor size at 6mm sq, why are the over-insulation dimensions so much smaller? [...] Anyone got any other ideas? Permitted tolerance - BS 6004:2000 Table 8 gives the following limits: CSA Min. overall Max. overall --- ------------- ------------ 4 5.6 x 10.5 mm 7.2 x 13.0 mm 6 6.4 x 12.5 mm 8.0 x 15.0 mm I would expect that the length of cable removed was about 20 years old. The 1995 version of the standard has the same sizes. I haven't got any earlier info, unless you want imperial cable sizes to BS 2004! -- Andy |
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