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Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait.
Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? |
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"Suz" wrote in message ... Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? Should it not run from the Maid's Quarters to the Laundry Room? AWEM |
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:23:43 -0000, "Suz" wrote:
Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? What 's wrong with getting a bag and carrying it downstairs .What are you living in ...a hostel ? LOL |
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"Stuart" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:23:43 -0000, "Suz" wrote: Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? What 's wrong with getting a bag and carrying it downstairs .What are you living in ...a hostel ? LOL What wrong with creating a laundry chute when we have the opportunity? It's simple to do. |
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"Suz" wrote in message ... Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? My concern with a chute from a bedroom down to a room containing equipment would be transfer of noise. Maybe the chute should go in a bathroom or in a hallway? |
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"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message ... "Suz" wrote in message ... Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? Should it not run from the Maid's Quarters to the Laundry Room? AWEM Thanks, that's constructive. |
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:15:07 -0000, "TonyK" wrote:
"Suz" wrote in message .. . Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? My concern with a chute from a bedroom down to a room containing equipment would be transfer of noise. Maybe the chute should go in a bathroom or in a hallway? Would or should there be concerns about smoke getting up the chute to the BR in the event of a fire in the laundry room .? |
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Suz wrote:
Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. anything thats slippery and cleans easily... take your choice. Melamine's one option. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? A chute takes up room and isnt movable, whereas a trapdoor in the floor takes no space up, and you can put things under or over it any time if you prefer. if you've got 3 floors of house, you could have bedroom at the top, bath on the middle floor, clothes laid out downstairs and food by the door. Then in the am you just fill the bath, drop each girl down the first chute directly into the bath, and from there down the 2nd (towelling lined) chute to her clothes, then out the door There'd be no problems with getting up in the morning. NT |
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"Owain" wrote in message ... Suz wrote: Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Depending on its size, you can get bottomless interlinking buckets that are used to create chutes from the top of scaffolding down to skips. Some sort of plastic laminate finish would probably be useful. It's a shame you can't have a straight drop as then you could put a small dumbwaiter lift in. Much more useful as you can then send the clean laundry back up, as well as other things. Nice idea, maybe it could be fitted in somewhere else. Why can't they just throw their clothes over the bannisters like normal kids? The kids are normal, why wouldn't they be? It's my idea, as it's muggins that has to pick them up. Why not reduce labour with a simple addition to the plans?? Why has this idea got so much hostility? Work smarter, not harder, that's my motto. Owain |
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"Stuart" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:15:07 -0000, "TonyK" wrote: "Suz" wrote in message .. . Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? My concern with a chute from a bedroom down to a room containing equipment would be transfer of noise. Maybe the chute should go in a bathroom or in a hallway? Would or should there be concerns about smoke getting up the chute to the BR in the event of a fire in the laundry room .? Very good point. I recently witnessed a gas tumble drier catching alight. Immense amounts of smoke with very little flame. Quite scary to imagine that in a basement funnelling up into a kids room. |
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"Suz" wrote in message ... Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? I would use 500g - thicker if you can find it - layflat polythene tube - available as a packaging material in sizes at least up to 36" wide. That will give you a slippy, snag-proof lining to whatever you make the chute from and, if it does ever wear out, you simply replace it with another length. Colin Bignell |
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"Stuart" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:15:07 -0000, "TonyK" wrote: "Suz" wrote in message . .. Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? My concern with a chute from a bedroom down to a room containing equipment would be transfer of noise. Maybe the chute should go in a bathroom or in a hallway? Would or should there be concerns about smoke getting up the chute to the BR in the event of a fire in the laundry room .? The chute could lead to a wheeled basket that is kept in a closed compartment at the end of the chute - avoiding the spread of smoke and, if it is fire resistant, even that of flame. Colin Bignell |
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"nightjar .uk.com" nightjar@insert my surname here wrote in message ... "Stuart" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:15:07 -0000, "TonyK" wrote: "Suz" wrote in message ... Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? My concern with a chute from a bedroom down to a room containing equipment would be transfer of noise. Maybe the chute should go in a bathroom or in a hallway? Would or should there be concerns about smoke getting up the chute to the BR in the event of a fire in the laundry room .? The chute could lead to a wheeled basket that is kept in a closed compartment at the end of the chute - avoiding the spread of smoke and, if it is fire resistant, even that of flame. Colin Bignell This is what I had in mind. A standard cupboard with a laundry basket instead of shelves. However, talking about fire makes me worried. I'll look more closely at the industrial stuff as they have tight fitting metal doors. |
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"Suz" wrote in message ... "nightjar .uk.com" nightjar@insert my surname here wrote in message ... "Stuart" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:15:07 -0000, "TonyK" wrote: "Suz" wrote in message ... Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? My concern with a chute from a bedroom down to a room containing equipment would be transfer of noise. Maybe the chute should go in a bathroom or in a hallway? Would or should there be concerns about smoke getting up the chute to the BR in the event of a fire in the laundry room .? The chute could lead to a wheeled basket that is kept in a closed compartment at the end of the chute - avoiding the spread of smoke and, if it is fire resistant, even that of flame. Colin Bignell This is what I had in mind. A standard cupboard with a laundry basket instead of shelves. However, talking about fire makes me worried. I'll look more closely at the industrial stuff as they have tight fitting metal doors. A wooden FD60 door with intumescent strip would probably be as good and a lot less than a steel door and frame. Looking at US sites might yeild more info as laundry chutes are pretty rare in the UK still although my Nans old flat in London had a rubbish chute from 1910! As for the "hostility"... it's because your doing something most others only dream of. Go build the biggest chute you can, stick all your laundry down it and post pictures, that'll really upset them ;-) |
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Suz Wrote: Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? I looked into doing this myself once, from a bathroom down to a boiler cupboard, and i would have made the chute out of MDF, its very smooth. -- Nick H |
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"Suz" wrote in message ... Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? http://www.thepackagingstore.co.uk/p...4GQ godcU3yPw |
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Suz wrote:
Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? I think I would ensure the cupboard that the chute discharges into is reasonably fire resistant (line the doors and inside with plasterboard for example, stuff any gaps with iso/rockwool). The chute lining could be something cheap and simple like hardboard, or at the other extream stainless steel sheet. I quite like Colin's idea of a plastic tubular secondary liner since it is easy to replace, and if anything ever did snag all you need to do is give it a quick tug from above. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"Robbo" wrote in message ... "Suz" wrote in message ... Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? http://www.thepackagingstore.co.uk/p...4GQ godcU3yPw Thanks, but I think things would stop at the bend if it was a collapsable lining. I think I need a hard tube. (No schoolboy humour, please!) |
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"Owain" wrote in message Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? The kids are normal, why wouldn't they be? It's my idea, as it's muggins that has to pick them up. Why not reduce labour with a simple addition to the plans?? Why has this idea got so much hostility? Work smarter, not harder, that's my motto. Heh dont worry about it, keep going and you'll get a fine feature there. How much of an angle will this thing go at? You may still be able to have a dumb waiter, just modifying the design to suit a slanted tube. In fact the only mod you'd need would be to add wheels on one side of the carriage and counterweight, and of course the carriage would be not square.. Fireproofing would mean a fireproof chute and fireproof doors, which arent difficult, and maybe natural fibre rope that doesnt produce nasties in a fire. Maybe if your carriage is hooked onto the rope it can be unhooked and longer items hauled up on the rope + hook without the carriage. In fact a dumb waiter system could run at any angle at all, as long as the shaft is straight - and even if it isnt it may still be workable. Why dont you give us more detail about the shaft available. NT |
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Part B (Protection from fire) of the Building Regulations.
Pages 82-84 have relevant advice/regulations. (also some stuff relating to refuse chutes p.57 may be relevant). http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/upl...F_ADB_2000.pdf |
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Suz wrote:
Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? If you use something like M12 rod in the centre of a round shaft, with a round carriage made from EML, the weight of the clothes would cause a spin to occur as it descended. This would throw items like coins and so on out of pockets. Now, on the way up you put a weight on the counterweight and the thing spins as it rises to the top floor, thus delivering the clothes and removing any remaining water at the same time. Make it big enough for the kids to get in and you have a fairground ride at home too. NT |
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"Suz" wrote in message ... "nightjar .uk.com" nightjar@insert my surname here wrote in message ... "Stuart" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:15:07 -0000, "TonyK" wrote: "Suz" wrote in message m... Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? My concern with a chute from a bedroom down to a room containing equipment would be transfer of noise. Maybe the chute should go in a bathroom or in a hallway? Would or should there be concerns about smoke getting up the chute to the BR in the event of a fire in the laundry room .? The chute could lead to a wheeled basket that is kept in a closed compartment at the end of the chute - avoiding the spread of smoke and, if it is fire resistant, even that of flame. Colin Bignell This is what I had in mind. A standard cupboard with a laundry basket instead of shelves. However, talking about fire makes me worried. I'll look more closely at the industrial stuff as they have tight fitting metal doors. A stud and plasterboard enclosure, using 12mm plasterboard both sides and a sturdy wooden door - a 1/2 hour fire door if it really worries you - will be perfectly adequate for domestic use. The main hazard with fire is the spread of smoke, so making the enclosure smoke-proof and using smoke alarms throughout the house are probably more important. If you use the layflat tubing I suggest elsewhere to line the chute, that will also act like a valve, closing itself behind the washing. Colin Bignell |
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nightjar nightjar@ wrote:
perfectly adequate for domestic use. The main hazard with fire is the spread of smoke, so making the enclosure smoke-proof and using smoke alarms throughout the house are probably more important. By the sounds of it this conversion would require interlinked smoke alarms on each floor anyway. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"John Rumm" wrote in message ... nightjar nightjar@ wrote: perfectly adequate for domestic use. The main hazard with fire is the spread of smoke, so making the enclosure smoke-proof and using smoke alarms throughout the house are probably more important. By the sounds of it this conversion would require interlinked smoke alarms on each floor anyway. I did say using, which is not the same as fitting :-) Colin Bignell |
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nightjar nightjar@ wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message ... nightjar nightjar@ wrote: perfectly adequate for domestic use. The main hazard with fire is the spread of smoke, so making the enclosure smoke-proof and using smoke alarms throughout the house are probably more important. By the sounds of it this conversion would require interlinked smoke alarms on each floor anyway. I did say using, which is not the same as fitting :-) I was just about to say they need to be mains powered as well... but thinking about it that actually makes them eaiser to turn off all at once! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"Suz" wrote in message ... "Robbo" wrote in message ... "Suz" wrote in message ... Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? http://www.thepackagingstore.co.uk/p...4GQ godcU3yPw Thanks, but I think things would stop at the bend if it was a collapsable lining. I think I need a hard tube. (No schoolboy humour, please!) Any bend would need to be gradual or *anything* will stop at it. With polythene tube the tube adapts to the shape of the article as it passes down. Also, as others have pointed out, if it gets a little dirty you can just pull it out and replace. The only other thing I can think of that might do the trick is ventilation duct...such as http://www.wad.co.uk/ manufacture |
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"Suz" wrote in message ... "nightjar .uk.com" nightjar@insert my surname here wrote in message ... "Stuart" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:15:07 -0000, "TonyK" wrote: "Suz" wrote in message ... Our renovation plans contain a new laundry room. Woohoo! Can't wait. Anyway, it will be on the first floor, and I want a laundry chute from the girls room on the second floor. Due to layout, this will not drop vertically but will have a slight bend in it. Any advice on what, if anything, to line it with? There seems to be kit for this but looks like very heavy industrial stuff. Any other general laundry room/chute advice? My concern with a chute from a bedroom down to a room containing equipment would be transfer of noise. Maybe the chute should go in a bathroom or in a hallway? Would or should there be concerns about smoke getting up the chute to the BR in the event of a fire in the laundry room .? The chute could lead to a wheeled basket that is kept in a closed compartment at the end of the chute - avoiding the spread of smoke and, if it is fire resistant, even that of flame. Colin Bignell This is what I had in mind. A standard cupboard with a laundry basket instead of shelves. However, talking about fire makes me worried. I'll look more closely at the industrial stuff as they have tight fitting metal doors. A wooden FD60 door with intumescent strip would probably be as good and a lot less than a steel door and frame. Looking at US sites might yeild more info as laundry chutes are pretty rare in the UK still although my Nans old flat in London had a rubbish chute from 1910! As for the "hostility"... it's because your doing something most others only dream of. Go build the biggest chute you can, stick all your laundry down it and post pictures, that'll really upset them ;-) But don't make the diameter larger than that of your smallest kid... you know it makes sense! David |
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We have a laundry chute but it drops straight down from the children's
bathroom to the utility room directly below. It is lined with ordinary hardboard with the "shiny" side facing into the chute allowing clothes to slide down easily. It's about 450mm by 750mm. I appreciate that ours has a vertical drop but I think that an angled chute lined with hardboard would work. Over time I guess that the hardboard would get shinier! Moo ' |
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from "Moo" contains these words: Over time I guess that the hardboard would get shinier! Not with my socks. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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