DIYbanter

DIYbanter (https://www.diybanter.com/)
-   UK diy (https://www.diybanter.com/uk-diy/)
-   -   2-gang 2-way switch (https://www.diybanter.com/uk-diy/179696-2-gang-2-way-switch.html)

John October 18th 06 10:35 PM

2-gang 2-way switch
 
Is there such a thing as a 2-gang 2-way switch that has a neon light
indicator for one of the switch rockers?

The light up in the loft currently gets its feed from the switched live of
the landing light so I have to have the landing light switched on to have
the loft light on. I want to be able to switch the loft light on and off
from the landing switch position but can forsee that someone may leave it on
or switch it accidentally, hence the reason for wanting a neon indicator.

John.



Bob Eager October 18th 06 10:43 PM

2-gang 2-way switch
 
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:35:16 UTC, "John" wrote:

Is there such a thing as a 2-gang 2-way switch that has a neon light
indicator for one of the switch rockers?

The light up in the loft currently gets its feed from the switched live of
the landing light so I have to have the landing light switched on to have
the loft light on. I want to be able to switch the loft light on and off
from the landing switch position but can forsee that someone may leave it on
or switch it accidentally, hence the reason for wanting a neon indicator.


The MK Grid Plus range seem to have a 2 gang (single plate) module
plate. You can get switches for that which have neons, and switches that
don't have neons.

A larger solution would be a slightly-bigger-than-double surface box
that takes two single switches. I just fitted one today (MK again). One
switch in each, and just make one a neon.

Grid Plus is neater and probably cheaper.


--
The information contained in this post is copyright the
poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by
Avenue Supplies, http://avenuesupplies.co.uk

John October 18th 06 10:47 PM

2-gang 2-way switch
 

"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:35:16 UTC, "John" wrote:

Is there such a thing as a 2-gang 2-way switch that has a neon light
indicator for one of the switch rockers?

The light up in the loft currently gets its feed from the switched live
of
the landing light so I have to have the landing light switched on to have
the loft light on. I want to be able to switch the loft light on and off
from the landing switch position but can forsee that someone may leave it
on
or switch it accidentally, hence the reason for wanting a neon indicator.


The MK Grid Plus range seem to have a 2 gang (single plate) module
plate. You can get switches for that which have neons, and switches that
don't have neons.

A larger solution would be a slightly-bigger-than-double surface box
that takes two single switches. I just fitted one today (MK again). One
switch in each, and just make one a neon.

Grid Plus is neater and probably cheaper.


--


Thanks Bob, I'll look into that.

John.



Andrew Gabriel October 18th 06 11:00 PM

2-gang 2-way switch
 
In article ,
"Bob Eager" writes:
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:35:16 UTC, "John" wrote:

Is there such a thing as a 2-gang 2-way switch that has a neon light
indicator for one of the switch rockers?

The light up in the loft currently gets its feed from the switched live of
the landing light so I have to have the landing light switched on to have
the loft light on. I want to be able to switch the loft light on and off
from the landing switch position but can forsee that someone may leave it on
or switch it accidentally, hence the reason for wanting a neon indicator.


The MK Grid Plus range seem to have a 2 gang (single plate) module
plate. You can get switches for that which have neons, and switches that
don't have neons.


I don't recall any switches with neons in the range,
but you can get a switch and separate neon module.

--
Andrew Gabriel

Bob Eager October 18th 06 11:10 PM

2-gang 2-way switch
 
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:00:39 UTC, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
"Bob Eager" writes:
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:35:16 UTC, "John" wrote:

Is there such a thing as a 2-gang 2-way switch that has a neon light
indicator for one of the switch rockers?

The light up in the loft currently gets its feed from the switched live of
the landing light so I have to have the landing light switched on to have
the loft light on. I want to be able to switch the loft light on and off
from the landing switch position but can forsee that someone may leave it on
or switch it accidentally, hence the reason for wanting a neon indicator.


The MK Grid Plus range seem to have a 2 gang (single plate) module
plate. You can get switches for that which have neons, and switches that
don't have neons.


I don't recall any switches with neons in the range,
but you can get a switch and separate neon module.


My apologies - misread it!

There is a single plate with three module slots, so two switches and a
neon would fit.

--
The information contained in this post is copyright the
poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by
Avenue Supplies,
http://avenuesupplies.co.uk

Guy King October 18th 06 11:17 PM

2-gang 2-way switch
 
The message
from "John" contains these words:

The light up in the loft currently gets its feed from the switched live of
the landing light so I have to have the landing light switched on to have
the loft light on. I want to be able to switch the loft light on and off
from the landing switch position but can forsee that someone may leave
it on
or switch it accidentally, hence the reason for wanting a neon indicator.


Wouldn't it be easier just to mount the switch either by the hatch so
you can see it but not knock it, or inside the loft so you can't forget
it?

--
Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

The Natural Philosopher October 18th 06 11:39 PM

2-gang 2-way switch
 
John wrote:
Is there such a thing as a 2-gang 2-way switch that has a neon light
indicator for one of the switch rockers?

The light up in the loft currently gets its feed from the switched live of
the landing light so I have to have the landing light switched on to have
the loft light on. I want to be able to switch the loft light on and off
from the landing switch position but can forsee that someone may leave it on
or switch it accidentally, hence the reason for wanting a neon indicator.


I think so...but you may need a single gang rather than trying for a
double..



John.



Dave Plowman (News) October 19th 06 01:22 AM

2-gang 2-way switch
 
In article ,
John wrote:
Is there such a thing as a 2-gang 2-way switch that has a neon light
indicator for one of the switch rockers?


No - but it would be easy to fit one. Maplin etc sell them. Round ones, so
only a simple hole needed. Or even a mains LED indicator for posh. You do,
however, need a neutral.

--
*In "Casablanca", Humphrey Bogart never said "Play it again, Sam" *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

David Hansen October 19th 06 08:05 AM

2-gang 2-way switch
 
On 18 Oct 2006 21:43:54 GMT someone who may be "Bob Eager"
wrote this:-

The MK Grid Plus range seem to have a 2 gang (single plate) module
plate. You can get switches for that which have neons, and switches that
don't have neons.


Very useful they are too. I have a four way module in the kitchen.
One way has a two way switch, which switches the main outside light
(this also be switched from the shed), the next way has a neon light
module which indicates when the main light is on. The other two ways
have single way switches that operate other outside lights (which
can only ever be on if the main light is on). A great way to
assemble useful switching.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

Bob Eager October 19th 06 08:58 AM

2-gang 2-way switch
 
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:05:19 UTC, David Hansen
wrote:

On 18 Oct 2006 21:43:54 GMT someone who may be "Bob Eager"
wrote this:-

The MK Grid Plus range seem to have a 2 gang (single plate) module
plate. You can get switches for that which have neons, and switches that
don't have neons.


Very useful they are too. I have a four way module in the kitchen.
One way has a two way switch, which switches the main outside light
(this also be switched from the shed), the next way has a neon light
module which indicates when the main light is on. The other two ways
have single way switches that operate other outside lights (which
can only ever be on if the main light is on). A great way to
assemble useful switching.


I've just found a useful application for the 2 x single plate combined
back box. One has the DP switch to isolate the central heating, and the
other (with a blanking plate) contains the cross connections that were
nastily squashed into the single switch box previously (flexible to the
boiler jammed in alongside the other load connections).

--
The information contained in this post is copyright the
poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by
Avenue Supplies, http://avenuesupplies.co.uk

dcbwhaley October 19th 06 10:05 AM

2-gang 2-way switch
 

. You do,
however, need a neutral.

Two ways to get away without a neutral.

The naughty way is to to connect to earth instead, assuming that the
lights aren't RCD.

The nice way is to use a two way switch and put the neon between L1 and
L2. When the lamp is on - one side of the neon is unconnected so it is
off. When the lamp is off the neon is in series with the lamp which is
low enough resistance to neutral.


Dave Plowman (News) October 19th 06 11:06 AM

2-gang 2-way switch
 
In article . com,
dcbwhaley wrote:
. You do,
however, need a neutral.

Two ways to get away without a neutral.


The naughty way is to to connect to earth instead, assuming that the
lights aren't RCD.


The current is so low it won't trip an RCD.

The nice way is to use a two way switch and put the neon between L1 and
L2. When the lamp is on - one side of the neon is unconnected so it is
off. When the lamp is off the neon is in series with the lamp which is
low enough resistance to neutral.


Or just wire it across a one way switch - the result will be the same. But
most want the warning neon to be on with the light.

--
*Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Bob Eager October 19th 06 11:26 AM

2-gang 2-way switch
 
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:05:15 UTC, "dcbwhaley" wrote:


. You do,
however, need a neutral.

Two ways to get away without a neutral.

The naughty way is to to connect to earth instead, assuming that the
lights aren't RCD.

The nice way is to use a two way switch and put the neon between L1 and
L2. When the lamp is on - one side of the neon is unconnected so it is
off. When the lamp is off the neon is in series with the lamp which is
low enough resistance to neutral.


And one could use a standard two gang switch then, with one of those
neon 'sandwich' switch plates...

--
The information contained in this post is copyright the
poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by
Avenue Supplies, http://avenuesupplies.co.uk

John October 19th 06 12:04 PM

2-gang 2-way switch
 

"Bob Eager" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:05:15 UTC, "dcbwhaley" wrote:


. You do,
however, need a neutral.

Two ways to get away without a neutral.

The naughty way is to to connect to earth instead, assuming that the
lights aren't RCD.

The nice way is to use a two way switch and put the neon between L1 and
L2. When the lamp is on - one side of the neon is unconnected so it is
off. When the lamp is off the neon is in series with the lamp which is
low enough resistance to neutral.


And one could use a standard two gang switch then, with one of those
neon 'sandwich' switch plates...


Thanks very much to everyone who replied - I've learned a lot from your
answers :o)

John.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:42 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 DIYbanter