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Just moved into flat, bathroom leaking to flat below
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We've just moved into a new flat that has been unoccupied for the past 4 months. On day one we used the loo and the sink, and our downstairs neighbour has told us there's water coming through his ceiling. It did stop though, and there weren't any problems until day 4 when we used the shower for the first time - again the leaking. The neighbour has been there for years, this hasn't happened before. What could have happened in the intervening 4 months? Could a pipe have dried out and cracked? Is there any sensible way of sorting it out before we take up the floor? |
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"CM" wrote in message ... Hi We've just moved into a new flat that has been unoccupied for the past 4 months. Rented or bought? |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:47:21 +0100, CM wrote:
Hi We've just moved into a new flat that has been unoccupied for the past 4 months. On day one we used the loo and the sink, and our downstairs neighbour has told us there's water coming through his ceiling. It did stop though, and there weren't any problems until day 4 when we used the shower for the first time - again the leaking. The neighbour has been there for years, this hasn't happened before. What could have happened in the intervening 4 months? Could a pipe have dried out and cracked? Is there any sensible way of sorting it out before we take up the floor? I'm in no doubt others will be along to make other helpful suggestions but reading what you have said suggests to me that it is a waste that is causing the problem as it seems to be a problem only when the facilities are being used . If it was a supply pipe then I would expect the problem to be there all the time. What puzzles me is that both the shower/basin AND the loo are causing the problem as I would have thought they had separate waste outlets . I cannot see any alternative to uplifting the floor but can you ,in conjunction with your neighbour below,operate each facilty on it's own in turn to try to isolate which one is causing the problem . When you say"new flat" I take it that you have bought this place and not rented it. Stuart . |
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What puzzles me is that both the shower/basin AND the loo are causing the
problem as I would have thought they had separate waste outlets . One of two possibilities. 1. All the wastes go into the main soil pipe, which is leaking. 2. The toilet doesn't cause any problems. The basin and shower share a waste and the OP is a washer, not a walker. Christian. |
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Stuart wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:47:21 +0100, CM wrote: Hi We've just moved into a new flat that has been unoccupied for the past 4 months. On day one we used the loo and the sink, and our downstairs neighbour has told us there's water coming through his ceiling. It did stop though, and there weren't any problems until day 4 when we used the shower for the first time - again the leaking. The neighbour has been there for years, this hasn't happened before. What could have happened in the intervening 4 months? Could a pipe have dried out and cracked? Is there any sensible way of sorting it out before we take up the floor? I'm in no doubt others will be along to make other helpful suggestions but reading what you have said suggests to me that it is a waste that is causing the problem as it seems to be a problem only when the facilities are being used . If it was a supply pipe then I would expect the problem to be there all the time. What puzzles me is that both the shower/basin AND the loo are causing the problem as I would have thought they had separate waste outlets . Possibly a blocked stack somewhere. I cannot see any alternative to uplifting the floor but can you ,in conjunction with your neighbour below,operate each facilty on it's own in turn to try to isolate which one is causing the problem . When you say"new flat" I take it that you have bought this place and not rented it. Stuart . |
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On Oct 13, 11:21 am, Stuart wrote: On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:47:21 +0100, CM wrote: Hi We've just moved into a new flat that has been unoccupied for the past 4 months. On day one we used the loo and the sink, and our downstairs neighbour has told us there's water coming through his ceiling. It did stop though, and there weren't any problems until day 4 when we used the shower for the first time - again the leaking. The neighbour has been there for years, this hasn't happened before. What could have happened in the intervening 4 months? Could a pipe have dried out and cracked? Is there any sensible way of sorting it out before we take up the floor?I'm in no doubt others will be along to make other helpful suggestions but reading what you have said suggests to me that it is a waste that is causing the problem as it seems to be a problem only when the facilities are being used . If it was a supply pipe then I would expect the problem to be there all the time. What puzzles me is that both the shower/basin AND the loo are causing the problem as I would have thought they had separate waste outlets . Only as far as the soil pipe. Which is a bit worrting if it's the toilet flush water that is leaking. MBQ |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:30:16 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: wrote: On Oct 13, 11:21 am, Stuart wrote: On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:47:21 +0100, CM wrote: Hi We've just moved into a new flat that has been unoccupied for the past 4 months. On day one we used the loo and the sink, and our downstairs neighbour has told us there's water coming through his ceiling. It did stop though, and there weren't any problems until day 4 when we used the shower for the first time - again the leaking. The neighbour has been there for years, this hasn't happened before. What could have happened in the intervening 4 months? Could a pipe have dried out and cracked? Is there any sensible way of sorting it out before we take up the floor?I'm in no doubt others will be along to make other helpful suggestions but reading what you have said suggests to me that it is a waste that is causing the problem as it seems to be a problem only when the facilities are being used . If it was a supply pipe then I would expect the problem to be there all the time. What puzzles me is that both the shower/basin AND the loo are causing the problem as I would have thought they had separate waste outlets . Only as far as the soil pipe. Which is a bit worrting if it's the toilet flush water that is leaking. Could be that most people use the basin after flushing the toilet though.. MBQ Yep, we've bought the place. The strange thing is we continued using the loo between day one and day four without apparent further problems. So either that particular problem resolved itself or was never the issue. Also, I've seen the water coming through the neighbour's ceiling - and it didn't look like it had come from the loo, if you see what I mean. We also did lay off using the sink for the intervening days. So maybe that's it? Maybe there's a joint output pipe for the sink and shower? |
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Also, I've seen the water coming through the neighbour's ceiling - and
it didn't look like it had come from the loo, if you see what I mean. That means nothing. Often there is a blockage that then backs up. You need to put quite a lot of water down before it backs up to the leak. Solid material (for want of a better word) usually drops down the blockage and only relatively fresh water comes out of the leak. We also did lay off using the sink for the intervening days. So maybe that's it? Maybe there's a joint output pipe for the sink and shower? Definite possibility. Christian. |
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The strange thing is we continued using the loo between day one and
day four without apparent further problems. So either that particular problem resolved itself or was never the issue. One other possibility is that it has been very wet weather recently. You may find the leak is penetrating rain water, rather than grey water from the bathroom. Christian. |
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CM wrote:
On day one we used the loo and the sink, and our downstairs neighbour has told us there's water coming through his ceiling. It did stop though, and there weren't any problems until day 4 when we used the shower for the first time - again the leaking. Have you had a look frm outside? Do the shower & basin wastes join the main soil stack or do they discharge into a separate gully? Next time it rains heavily see if the gutters are overflowing. -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:47:21 +0100, CM
wrote: Hi We've just moved into a new flat that has been unoccupied for the past 4 months. On day one we used the loo and the sink, and our downstairs neighbour has told us there's water coming through his ceiling. It did stop though, and there weren't any problems until day 4 when we used the shower for the first time - again the leaking. The neighbour has been there for years, this hasn't happened before. What could have happened in the intervening 4 months? Could a pipe have dried out and cracked? Is there any sensible way of sorting it out before we take up the floor? Bit of feedback, turns out it was a leak from the sink just below the basin! Unfortunately we'd got as far as making a few holes in the floor to spot the leak. The outlet on the sink had been pushed out of place and the water was just running down the outside of the pipe through the hole in the floorboards. At least the hole in the floor has let us check there's no more leakage. Any suggestions on how to patch up a small hole (about 3.5 inches across I'd say) made in the floorboards before putting the tile back down? |
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CM wrote: Bit of feedback, turns out it was a leak from the sink just below the basin! I don't think I'd be very impressed with you if I were your neighbour. |
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:32:28 +0100, CM wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:47:21 +0100, CM wrote: Hi We've just moved into a new flat that has been unoccupied for the past 4 months. On day one we used the loo and the sink, and our downstairs neighbour has told us there's water coming through his ceiling. It did stop though, and there weren't any problems until day 4 when we used the shower for the first time - again the leaking. The neighbour has been there for years, this hasn't happened before. What could have happened in the intervening 4 months? Could a pipe have dried out and cracked? Is there any sensible way of sorting it out before we take up the floor? Bit of feedback, turns out it was a leak from the sink just below the basin! Unfortunately we'd got as far as making a few holes in the floor to spot the leak. The outlet on the sink had been pushed out of place and the water was just running down the outside of the pipe through the hole in the floorboards. At least the hole in the floor has let us check there's no more leakage. Any suggestions on how to patch up a small hole (about 3.5 inches across I'd say) made in the floorboards before putting the tile back down? Did you not say earlier that it also happened when you used the shower .? |
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