[emsee]

I'm looking to buy a Makita 8280DWPE 14.4v combi drill but can't find
out how long the warranty is on this drill.
Does anyone know the length of the warranty for Makita's?

Also, can anyone recommend any starter drill kits (with reasonably
decent masionary & other drill bits)?

Is the Makita 8280DWPE 14.4v drill bundled with the Makita 102pc Drill
and Screwdriver Set a good buy at £105 or would it be better to buy
the drill on its own (£85) and buy a drill/screwdriver set seperately?

[Andy Hall]

On 2006-08-13 23:29:53 +0100, "emsee" said:

I'm looking to buy a Makita 8280DWPE 14.4v combi drill but can't find
out how long the warranty is on this drill.
Does anyone know the length of the warranty for Makita's?

Standard Makita warranty is a year. I have the slightly earlier
model of this drill and it has been and remains superb - no issues at
all.

If you would like a product with a longer (e.g. 3 year) warranty, then
take a look at some models in the Bosch professional (blue) range or at
Metabo.

All of the above are good quality products with proper service, spares
and backup. This is not comparable to the warranties offered on
generic tools from the Far East badged for the DIY sheds. The
warranty normally consists of a replacement and no proper backup - i.e.
if it fails at 3 years it's bin time.



Also, can anyone recommend any starter drill kits (with reasonably
decent masionary & other drill bits)?

Is the Makita 8280DWPE 14.4v drill bundled with the Makita 102pc Drill
and Screwdriver Set a good buy at £105 or would it be better to buy
the drill on its own (£85) and buy a drill/screwdriver set seperately?

This is a difficult one. I don't know why the marketing people at
these manufacturers do these bundles. In comparison to the tools
they are supplied with, they are fairly mediochre and not really much
better than any generic set of bits and drills.

I suppose that there are a couple of approaches:

- Decide that you don't really need all 102 items in the set - in
reality you probably don't - and buy items individually or in smaller
groups when needed. This allows choice of better of breed as well.
For example, Wiha screwdriver bits are much better than you are likely
to get in one of these kits.

- Go for the bundle deal - actually £20 for that lot isn't bad. Some
items will get more use. You can replace those as they wear out or
break with decent ones. This is reasonable in the sense that you
should have coverage for most eventualities. On the other hand, you
may find that the screwdriver bits especially can let you down after
relatively little use.

[The3rd Earl Of Derby]

emsee wrote:
I'm looking to buy a Makita 8280DWPE 14.4v combi drill but can't find
out how long the warranty is on this drill.
Does anyone know the length of the warranty for Makita's?

Also, can anyone recommend any starter drill kits (with reasonably
decent masionary & other drill bits)?

Is the Makita 8280DWPE 14.4v drill bundled with the Makita 102pc Drill
and Screwdriver Set a good buy at £105 or would it be better to buy
the drill on its own (£85) and buy a drill/screwdriver set seperately?

Erm! have you tried their site.

Service/warranty registaration.
http://www.makita.com/

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

[Andy Hall]

On 2006-08-14 00:01:56 +0100, "The3rd Earl Of Derby" said:

emsee wrote:
I'm looking to buy a Makita 8280DWPE 14.4v combi drill but can't find
out how long the warranty is on this drill.
Does anyone know the length of the warranty for Makita's?

Also, can anyone recommend any starter drill kits (with reasonably
decent masionary & other drill bits)?

Is the Makita 8280DWPE 14.4v drill bundled with the Makita 102pc Drill
and Screwdriver Set a good buy at £105 or would it be better to buy
the drill on its own (£85) and buy a drill/screwdriver set seperately?

Erm! have you tried their site.

Service/warranty registaration.
http://www.makita.com/

That's the U.S. site

UK site is www.makitauk.com

[Doctor Drivel]

"emsee" wrote in message
ps.com...
I'm looking to buy a Makita 8280DWPE 14.4v combi drill but can't find
out how long the warranty is on this drill.
Does anyone know the length of the warranty for Makita's?

Also, can anyone recommend any starter drill kits (with reasonably
decent masionary & other drill bits)?

Is the Makita 8280DWPE 14.4v drill bundled with the Makita 102pc Drill
and Screwdriver Set a good buy at £105 or would it be better to buy
the drill on its own (£85) and buy a drill/screwdriver set seperately?


Don't bother. Go to Wickes where they have from around £120 a drill driver
with an angle attachment - two drills in one. The chuck slips off and
drivers can be inserted directly into the body. Then buy the SDS drill for
£99. Both are quality, 3 yr guarantee made by Kress in Germany (rebadged).

£220 for basically three quality drilling functions.

[The3rd Earl Of Derby]

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2006-08-14 00:01:56 +0100, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
said:

emsee wrote:
I'm looking to buy a Makita 8280DWPE 14.4v combi drill but can't
find out how long the warranty is on this drill.
Does anyone know the length of the warranty for Makita's?

Also, can anyone recommend any starter drill kits (with reasonably
decent masionary & other drill bits)?

Is the Makita 8280DWPE 14.4v drill bundled with the Makita 102pc
Drill and Screwdriver Set a good buy at £105 or would it be better
to buy the drill on its own (£85) and buy a drill/screwdriver set
seperately?

Erm! have you tried their site.

Service/warranty registaration.
http://www.makita.com/

That's the U.S. site

UK site is www.makitauk.com

Whats that go to do with it? the warranty is the same ie 1 Year. :-)

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

[Andy Hall]

On 2006-08-14 00:17:19 +0100, "The3rd Earl Of Derby" said:

Erm! have you tried their site.

Service/warranty registaration.
http://www.makita.com/

That's the U.S. site

UK site is www.makitauk.com

Whats that go to do with it? the warranty is the same ie 1 Year. :-)

Some manufacturers offer different warranty periods in different
theatres of operation. Terms and conditions certainly vary in
accordance with local law, custom and the market situation.

[The3rd Earl Of Derby]

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2006-08-14 00:17:19 +0100, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
said:

Erm! have you tried their site.

Service/warranty registaration.
http://www.makita.com/

That's the U.S. site

UK site is www.makitauk.com

Whats that go to do with it? the warranty is the same ie 1 Year. :-)

Some manufacturers offer different warranty periods in different
theatres of operation. Terms and conditions certainly vary in
accordance with local law, custom and the market situation.

First time I've heard that before? as far as the warranty concerned you
can't give a warranty of 1 year in one country and have a warranty of 3
years in another country.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Don't bother. Go to Wickes where they have from around £120 a drill
driver with an angle attachment - two drills in one. The chuck slips
off and drivers can be inserted directly into the body.

For once I have to agree with you. It's a very good drill with good
quality batteries and a decent charger. Dunno about spares availability,
though. I bought it for the right angle function.

--
*Welcome to **** Creek - sorry, we're out of paddles*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article ,
Andy Hall wrote:
Some manufacturers offer different warranty periods in different
theatres of operation. Terms and conditions certainly vary in
accordance with local law, custom and the market situation.

For some reason, warrienties in the US are usually poorer than here.
Perhaps it's because we pay about twice the US price. ;-(

--
*What was the best thing before sliced bread? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[The3rd Earl Of Derby]

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Andy Hall wrote:
Some manufacturers offer different warranty periods in different
theatres of operation. Terms and conditions certainly vary in
accordance with local law, custom and the market situation.

For some reason, warrienties in the US are usually poorer than here.
Perhaps it's because we pay about twice the US price. ;-(

....Or they don't import ****e from the far east and are good at producing
precision tools. :-)

Didn't the UK have the finest tools and craftsmen in the world at one time?
oh well bang went the economy after the iron lady became a drunk..or was
that her hubby? and she lost her marbles?

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

[John Rumm]

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:

Some manufacturers offer different warranty periods in different
theatres of operation. Terms and conditions certainly vary in
accordance with local law, custom and the market situation.


First time I've heard that before? as far as the warranty concerned you
can't give a warranty of 1 year in one country and have a warranty of 3
years in another country.

Of course you can... you can also charge a different price for it, and
include different accessories etc.


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Cheers,

John.

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[Andy Hall]

On 2006-08-14 00:34:22 +0100, "The3rd Earl Of Derby" said:

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2006-08-14 00:17:19 +0100, "The3rd Earl Of Derby"
said:

Erm! have you tried their site.

Service/warranty registaration.
http://www.makita.com/

That's the U.S. site

UK site is www.makitauk.com

Whats that go to do with it? the warranty is the same ie 1 Year. :-)

Some manufacturers offer different warranty periods in different
theatres of operation. Terms and conditions certainly vary in
accordance with local law, custom and the market situation.

First time I've heard that before? as far as the warranty concerned you
can't give a warranty of 1 year in one country and have a warranty of 3
years in another country.

Absolutely you can.

One example came from a European Directive on the subject which
required statute of limitations cover for products sold to consumers of
a minimum of two years.

This didn't directly affect the UK, which has 6 years, but other EU
countries had all sorts of different arrangements.

Consumer groups in several countries, notably Germany, seized on the
ambiguity in the wording of the Directive and pushed for a minimum of 2
year *warranty* which is not the same thing at all.

Thus, there is a situation where some manufacturers are offering two
year warranties in some European countries and one year in others.
Other manufacturers, in order to reduce complexity with logistics have
gone for two or even three years across Europe.

A similar situation exists in the United States. It is typical to
offer a one year (or whatever) warranty, and to then have a clause
accepting different state-by-state conditions (and there are).

In the end, it's all about cost and market perception.

The quality manufacturers will not have a high return rate because of
the engineering design and quality of materials used. Hence you see
Festool, Metabo and now Bosch (professional) offering 3 year
warranties. The extra two years is provided when you send in the
registration card.

The volume Chinese manufacturers have a set of terms and conditions
with the retailers which may allow a certain return rate of faulty
product, or not. The volume retailer offers his two or three year
warranty. It's then a question of risk. At one end, the retailer
takes all the risk, paid for out of margin, and dumps any returns in
the skip. At the other, he returns product to the manufacturer (or
verification of return from the end user) and returns still go in the
skip.

[Andy Hall]

On 2006-08-14 00:41:22 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
said:

In article ,
Andy Hall wrote:
Some manufacturers offer different warranty periods in different
theatres of operation. Terms and conditions certainly vary in
accordance with local law, custom and the market situation.

For some reason, warrienties in the US are usually poorer than here.
Perhaps it's because we pay about twice the US price. ;-(

They do tend to be in terms of getting products fixed, but there are
product liability issues and costs in the U.S. which are considerably
higher than here.

But you're right. I've found it a very effective strategy to buy
tools in the U.S. and import them.

I always go for branded tools which are available here in Europe as
well so that spares are easily available. This has to be watched on
some things because occasionally details vary, such as bore of saws
(5/8" vs. 30mm) and switches are often different. Even so, one can
easily order spares for any branded tool in the U.S. from Grainger and
others.

On high value items, it's economic to pay for a Fedex shipment;
otherwise I do my buying during trips to the U.S. The latter has
the advantage that duty/VAT free allowance of £145 can be used to
offset the cost even further. Even above that limit, the normal duty
on most tools is 2.7% plus VAT. Generally, customs officers cant be
bothered to look up the duty and just charge the VAT.

[Andy Hall]

On 2006-08-14 00:55:25 +0100, "The3rd Earl Of Derby" said:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Andy Hall wrote:
Some manufacturers offer different warranty periods in different
theatres of operation. Terms and conditions certainly vary in
accordance with local law, custom and the market situation.

For some reason, warrienties in the US are usually poorer than here.
Perhaps it's because we pay about twice the US price. ;-(

...Or they don't import ****e from the far east and are good at producing
precision tools. :-)

Err.... no. Same ****e.


Didn't the UK have the finest tools and craftsmen in the world at one time?

In some aspects, yes. The German speaking countries have had a good
reputation as well.

Again it comes to cost.

People speak out of both sides of their mouths. On the one hand, they
like the idea of precision products, good manufacturing quality,
excellent service and long life.

That's still available. You can buy buy power tools from Festool and
Lamello for example.

Oh the other, they want to buy on price and are looking for the ever
cheaper "bargain"

Of course, it isn't really a bargain in either the short term or the
long one......


oh well bang went the economy after the iron lady became a drunk..or was
that her hubby? and she lost her marbles?

I think you're getting confused with Harold Wilson and Callaghan.....

[emsee]

Doctor Drivel wrote:
Don't bother. Go to Wickes where they have from around £120 a drill driver
with an angle attachment - two drills in one. The chuck slips off and
drivers can be inserted directly into the body. Then buy the SDS drill for
£99. Both are quality, 3 yr guarantee made by Kress in Germany (rebadged).

£220 for basically three quality drilling functions.

I should have made it clear, my budget is limited to around £80-£90
(+drill bits & other accessories) & I'm only going to be using it for
reasonably light & occasional DIY work - I couldn't possibly justify
spending over £200.

I was considering getting a lower priced budget drill but the Makita
seemed to be on offer at a good price and is reasonably lighweight for
the spec.

[Andy Hall]

On 2006-08-14 11:37:47 +0100, "emsee" said:


I should have made it clear, my budget is limited to around £80-£90
(+drill bits & other accessories) & I'm only going to be using it for
reasonably light & occasional DIY work - I couldn't possibly justify
spending over £200.

I was considering getting a lower priced budget drill but the Makita
seemed to be on offer at a good price and is reasonably lighweight for
the spec.

Given that set of parameters, it's a very good buy.

[Matt]

On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:52:25 +0100, Andy Hall
wrote:

On 2006-08-13 23:29:53 +0100, "emsee" said:

I'm looking to buy a Makita 8280DWPE 14.4v combi drill but can't find
out how long the warranty is on this drill.
Does anyone know the length of the warranty for Makita's?

Standard Makita warranty is a year. I have the slightly earlier
model of this drill and it has been and remains superb - no issues at
all.

If you would like a product with a longer (e.g. 3 year) warranty, then
take a look at some models in the Bosch professional (blue) range or at
Metabo.

With the caveat that Bosch blue automatically revert to a "standard" 1
year warranty if the tool is not registered by post within 28 days.
You'd only find out if you found the poxy slip of recycled paper mixed
in with the multilingual instruction books or saw the asterisk in
their catalogue. ******s.

Not that it would stop me pursuing them through the courts if any of
my Bosch tools fail within 3 years or longer.


--

[Doki]

"emsee" wrote in message
ps.com...

Does anyone know the length of the warranty for Makita's?

There isn't one if you buy one of the chinese copies that keep knocking
around on boot sales and the like.