[Mr Woo]

Hello.

We live in quite a rural location and the only nearby supplier of
burglar alarm equipment closed down some time ago. I am looking to
upgrade some of my system shortly and will have to look on-line for a
supplier.

Can anyone suggest a good on-line supplier for PIR's, Bell Boxes and
Control Panels? I would ideally like to purchase the same quality of
equipment that a professional firm would fit rather than something
that I could get at B&Q or Argos.

Many thanks,



Mr W.

[Dave Liquorice]

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:21:37 +0100, Mr Woo wrote:

Can anyone suggest a good on-line supplier for PIR's, Bell Boxes and
Control Panels?

CPC, TLC etc do some stuff.

Bear in mind if you want and "discount" on your insurance for having an
alarm the majority of insurance companies will want it under a maintenace
contract with an recognised alarm company this costs, how much was that
discount again? They may even insist it is a monitored system and all
that entails with false alarms...

An alarm also gives the insurance companies another thing to haggle about
when you claim. You did set the alarm when you nipped out for 2 mins for
a "cup of sugar" and a tea leaf nipped in for your TV, DVD etc...

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Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

[Mr Woo]

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:45:00 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

Bear in mind if you want and "discount" on your insurance for having an
alarm the majority of insurance companies will want it under a maintenace
contract

Dave,

Thanks for this. I am aware of the 'possible' limitations of providing
my own alarm system. As mentioned in the previous post, I have run one
for some time and am now looking to modify and replace some of the
older parts.

Still looking for suggestions for a dedicated on-line company that can
reliably supply things like PIR's and control panels at reasonable
cost but mainly of reasonably quality.

TIA.

Mr W.

[Andrew Baker]

In article om,
says...
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:21:37 +0100, Mr Woo wrote:

Can anyone suggest a good on-line supplier for PIR's, Bell Boxes and
Control Panels?


http://alertelectrical.com/

Texecom Premier seems to be considered one of the best you can buy as a
DIY-er.

The better professional installers will (probably rightly?) claim that
you won't be able to buy pro kit unless you're in the trade. As soon as
some company sells to Joe Public, it doesn't count as 'pro' kit any
more..

[Ben Micklem]

in article , Mr Woo at
wrote on 27/7/06 13:54:

Still looking for suggestions for a dedicated on-line company that can
reliably supply things like PIR's and control panels at reasonable
cost but mainly of reasonably quality.


I have used Alert Electrical before, but not for alarms bits.
http://www.alertelectrical.com/produ...ry.asp?catID=3

I am intending to use them to supply the alarm for my house, as soon as it
is habitable....

Ben

[Mr Woo]

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:05:25 +0100, Andrew Baker
wrote:

http://alertelectrical.com/

Thanks to both Ben and Andrew. That's just what I was looking for.

Cheers.

Mr W.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article l.de,
Mr Woo wrote:
Can anyone suggest a good on-line supplier for PIR's, Bell Boxes and
Control Panels? I would ideally like to purchase the same quality of
equipment that a professional firm would fit rather than something
that I could get at B&Q or Argos.

TLC was the one I used. But you need a reasonable knowledge of this sort
of wiring as they aren't supplied with DIY instructions. Maplin might be
better for that sort of thing.

--
*Confession is good for the soul, but bad for your career.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[fred]

In article l.de,
Mr Woo writes
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:05:25 +0100, Andrew Baker
wrote:

http://alertelectrical.com/

Thanks to both Ben and Andrew. That's just what I was looking for.

CPC are cheaper and IMO have a better range, I've just bought a bundle
from them for a business premises, good value although not the specialist
provider you specified. http://www.cpc.co.uk/

Btw, I browse the paper catalogue before going online.
--
fred
Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla

[Dave Liquorice]

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:05:41 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

But you need a reasonable knowledge of this sort of wiring as they
aren't supplied with DIY instructions.

This is true but it isn't rocket science, you just need to pick up on the
rather strange terminology used. I suspect this is deliberate to make it
look difficult and complicated when in reality it's **** simple.

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Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail

[Mr Woo]

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:05:41 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

TLC was the one I used. But you need a reasonable knowledge of this sort
of wiring as they aren't supplied with DIY instructions. Maplin might be
better for that sort of thing.

Thanks, but I don't have a problem with this. I have been involved
with electronics for longer than I care to think. Been a radio ham and
keen constructor since I was 17 years old. Now I'm in my late 50's.

Mr W.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article om,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
But you need a reasonable knowledge of this sort of wiring as they
aren't supplied with DIY instructions.

This is true but it isn't rocket science, you just need to pick up on
the rather strange terminology used. I suspect this is deliberate to
make it look difficult and complicated when in reality it's **** simple.

To many here, maybe. But remember things like intermediate switches tax
the likes of dribble. To anyone who understands the basics it should be ok
though - although mixing parts from different makers may still cause
confusion due to the terminology used.

--
*Who is this General Failure chap anyway - and why is he reading my HD? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article l.de,
Mr Woo wrote:
TLC was the one I used. But you need a reasonable knowledge of this sort
of wiring as they aren't supplied with DIY instructions. Maplin might be
better for that sort of thing.

Thanks, but I don't have a problem with this. I have been involved
with electronics for longer than I care to think. Been a radio ham and
keen constructor since I was 17 years old. Now I'm in my late 50's.

I'd say I have a fairly similar sort of background, but still had to think
carefully using pro components even although they had wiring diagrams.
If you've not installed one before you'll know what I mean when you do. ;-)

--
*Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[Andrew Gabriel]

In article om,
"Dave Liquorice" writes:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:05:41 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

But you need a reasonable knowledge of this sort of wiring as they
aren't supplied with DIY instructions.

This is true but it isn't rocket science, you just need to pick up on the
rather strange terminology used. I suspect this is deliberate to make it
look difficult and complicated when in reality it's **** simple.

Much of it is, but some things are less obvious and come with
experience. Type of sensor to use and how to position it for
maximum effectiveness with least risk of false alarms is one
such. If you are DIY'ing an alarm without this experience, I
would stringly suggest you don't connect an external sounder
until you've had a long period of running with no false alarms.

Some time ago, I did a write-up of a number of the dual-tech
detectors I have used. This is unlikely to be directly useful
now as the products will have been superceeded, but it might
give you a feel for the type of variation between products,
and how you might select one over another:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....5f61bd5da0c158

--
Andrew Gabriel

[Mr Woo]

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:07:07 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

I'd say I have a fairly similar sort of background, but still had to think
carefully using pro components even although they had wiring diagrams.
If you've not installed one before you'll know what I mean when you do. ;-)

Nah! No problem. I have installed systems in a few houses over the
years. Was initially tutored by a chap who was a professional alarm
installer. Taught me all the tricks about PIR positioning etc..

Mr W.