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MoD requirements are that the shredder "cross-cuts" - that is it shreds
lengthways and then cuts the strips crossways, making tiny little squares
of paper. Perfect for the paranoid!

I have a cheap one from B&Q which cuts into strips, taking a max of 5
sheets of 80 gsm paper. This is more than adequate for normal everyday
shredding of utility bills etc. Very few "identity thieves" are going
to try and reform a shredded document to use illegally.

George

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:54:39 -0000, "Blair"
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Blair

Get a kitten.

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I use a Dahle and am very happy with it, v well made, chunky & good
power. It happens to be a cross cutter but you pay your money and takes
your choice. Got it from Viking, voracious junk mailers but they do have
good prices on shredders (when I last looked).
--
fred
Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla

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Got a Tescos value (Blue stripe?) cross-cut shredder here. Used almost
daily for the past 6 months for junk mail, etc. Probably not up to
"office" use, but OK for home for us.

Gordon

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Get a cross cut shredder, you can get them cheap now. Regardless of the
extra security, because stuff is cut into small squares the bin doesn't
fill up as quickly as the straight cut shredders. So even a small cross
cut shredder will need less emptying than a larger straight cut.

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£15 crosscut shredder from staples.

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MoD requirements are that the shredder "cross-cuts" - that is it shreds
lengthways and then cuts the strips crossways, making tiny little squares
of paper. Perfect for the paranoid!

I have a cheap one from B&Q which cuts into strips, taking a max of 5
sheets of 80 gsm paper. This is more than adequate for normal everyday
shredding of utility bills etc. Very few "identity thieves" are going
to try and reform a shredded document to use illegally.


The parliamentary committee advising on identity theft was sponsored by
....

.... a manufacturer of paper shredders!

You're all too paranoid.

MBQ

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Get a cross cut shredder, you can get them cheap now. Regardless of
the extra security, because stuff is cut into small squares the bin
doesn't fill up as quickly as the straight cut shredders. So even a
small cross cut shredder will need less emptying than a larger
straight cut.

even less so if you simply cut the personally identifying information
out of the letter / A4 sheet, shred that and bin the rest.

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£15 crosscut shredder from staples.

Is that a leccy one?

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£15 crosscut shredder from staples.

Is that a leccy one?

of course it is !

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:33:56 GMT George wrote :
MoD requirements are that the shredder "cross-cuts" - that is it shreds
lengthways and then cuts the strips crossways, making tiny little squares
of paper. Perfect for the paranoid!

Also a lot less bulk.

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For something worthwhile in terms of security, a crosscut is
necessary.

The strip ones are worthless.

I once had a secretary who shredded a refundable airline ticket after
it hadn't been used. She was able to recover the strips reasonably
easily and stick them onto paper and send to the travel agent. As it
happens, one can get a refund with some painful procedure anyway, but
I felt that the glue therapy would aid memory for the future.


Apart from that, it really depends on the volume that you need to
shred. The small £20-30 ones are OK for the odd piece of junk mail.

I tend to get a fair amount of paperwork from various sources,
including business, which have confidential material and do need to be
shredded - perhaps a few hundred sheets a week. I bought a
Fellowes shredder from Staples for about £70 or so with removable bin
etc. This works really well.

You can use a light duty one as long as you don't over burden it by
putting too much through at a time or run for too long. The motors
are not continuously rated. Most have a thermal cutout. It's also
important to regularly oil the cutters.


--

..andy

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Definately avoid Blair that goes without saying! Tally Ho G

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You're all too paranoid.

Yes.

I bought Spouse a hand cranked one from Betterwear or the like for about £4.
He loves it, spends ages playing with it but I've no idea what he shreds. I
can't be bothered with it even though most 'sensitive' mail is addressed to
me.

The shredder's contents, thin strips of paper, are emptied into the compost
bin. No power use, no land fill. Easy.

MBQ

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You're all too paranoid.

Yes.

I bought Spouse a hand cranked one from Betterwear or the like for
about £4. He loves it, spends ages playing with it but I've no idea
what he shreds. I can't be bothered with it even though most
'sensitive' mail is addressed to me.

The shredder's contents, thin strips of paper, are emptied into the
compost bin. No power use, no land fill. Easy.

MBQ

Small bin,some matches....pufff! gone in seconds.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

Put a dog turd in bin with sensitive documents, who's going to rake through that? (VIZ top tip)

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Definately avoid Blair that goes without saying! Tally Ho G

AWEM

Many thanks to all who replied. Really good advice given.
But definitely avoid Andrew in future
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Get a cross cut shredder, you can get them cheap now. Regardless of
the extra security, because stuff is cut into small squares the bin
doesn't fill up as quickly as the straight cut shredders. So even a
small cross cut shredder will need less emptying than a larger
straight cut.

even less so if you simply cut the personally identifying information
out of the letter / A4 sheet, shred that and bin the rest.

I know, I do do that sometimes but other times I can't be arsed. With
some of these credit card applications you get in the post they have
your details pre-filled all over the place.

What details are there already filled in on such a credit card application
that someone can't find out from publicly available information anyway?

--
Chris Green

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Get a cross cut shredder, you can get them cheap now. Regardless of
the extra security, because stuff is cut into small squares the bin
doesn't fill up as quickly as the straight cut shredders. So even a
small cross cut shredder will need less emptying than a larger
straight cut.

even less so if you simply cut the personally identifying
information out of the letter / A4 sheet, shred that and bin the
rest.

I know, I do do that sometimes but other times I can't be arsed. With
some of these credit card applications you get in the post they have
your details pre-filled all over the place.

What details are there already filled in on such a credit card
application that someone can't find out from publicly available
information anyway?

the sort of opportunist person that goes bin diving is not generally the
type of person who is clever enough to know that. otherwise, why would
they be bin diving ? besides, it's not the information they are after, it's
the hard copy documentation they are after, to start the old paper trail.

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avoid Blair

Get a cross cut shredder, you can get them cheap now. Regardless of
the extra security, because stuff is cut into small squares the bin
doesn't fill up as quickly as the straight cut shredders. So even a
small cross cut shredder will need less emptying than a larger
straight cut.

even less so if you simply cut the personally identifying
information out of the letter / A4 sheet, shred that and bin the
rest.

I know, I do do that sometimes but other times I can't be arsed. With
some of these credit card applications you get in the post they have
your details pre-filled all over the place.

What details are there already filled in on such a credit card
application that someone can't find out from publicly available
information anyway?

the sort of opportunist person that goes bin diving is not generally the
type of person who is clever enough to know that. otherwise, why would
they be bin diving ? besides, it's not the information they are after, it's
the hard copy documentation they are after, to start the old paper trail.

But then they are surely not the sort of person who will succeed at
the sort of 'identity theft' that will affect the 'real' person are
they? OK, they may try the odd bit of pension/benefit fraud by using
someone else's name but that's really not going to affect you much.

Serious identity fraud of the type that shredding these things is
supposed to protect you from needs a bit of wit and also more
information than you'll find on a junk mail credit card application.
It's also, I believe, pretty rare.

--
Chris Green

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to avoid Blair

Get a cross cut shredder, you can get them cheap now. Regardless
of the extra security, because stuff is cut into small squares
the bin doesn't fill up as quickly as the straight cut
shredders. So even a small cross cut shredder will need less
emptying than a larger straight cut.

even less so if you simply cut the personally identifying
information out of the letter / A4 sheet, shred that and bin the
rest.

I know, I do do that sometimes but other times I can't be arsed.
With some of these credit card applications you get in the post
they have your details pre-filled all over the place.

What details are there already filled in on such a credit card
application that someone can't find out from publicly available
information anyway?

the sort of opportunist person that goes bin diving is not generally
the type of person who is clever enough to know that. otherwise, why
would they be bin diving ? besides, it's not the information they
are after, it's the hard copy documentation they are after, to start
the old paper trail.

But then they are surely not the sort of person who will succeed at
the sort of 'identity theft' that will affect the 'real' person are
they?

no. they are the sort of person who will sell that information to a third party
who is a little more sophisticated and which will affect a real person. letter
boxes are a better bet for starting a paper trail but bins are just as effective.

OK, they may try the odd bit of pension/benefit fraud by using
someone else's name but that's really not going to affect you much.

not me, no. but perhaps the OP is worried about it and wants to take
all precautions available to them. that /is/ what the thread is about.

Serious identity fraud of the type that shredding these things is
supposed to protect you from needs a bit of wit and also more
information than you'll find on a junk mail credit card application.
It's also, I believe, pretty rare.

believe what you like but there are organised gangs swapping drugs
for paper in the same way that they are swapping drugs for goods.

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Get a cross cut shredder, you can get them cheap now. Regardless of
the extra security, because stuff is cut into small squares the bin
doesn't fill up as quickly as the straight cut shredders. So even a
small cross cut shredder will need less emptying than a larger
straight cut.

even less so if you simply cut the personally identifying information
out of the letter / A4 sheet, shred that and bin the rest.

I know, I do do that sometimes but other times I can't be arsed. With
some of these credit card applications you get in the post they have
your details pre-filled all over the place.

What details are there already filled in on such a credit card application
that someone can't find out from publicly available information anyway?

--
Chris Green

I don't want to give them a shred of information. Yes, they may be able
to get certain details elsewhere but I want to make it as hard as
possible for them.

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application that someone can't find out from publicly available
information anyway?

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Chris Green

I don't want to give them a shred of information. Yes, they may be
able
to get certain details elsewhere but I want to make it as hard as
possible for them.

Who? If identity theft were as common as some people would have us
believe we would probably all know a victim personally.

I know one.

anyone else ?

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I don't want to give them a shred of information. Yes, they may be able
to get certain details elsewhere but I want to make it as hard as
possible for them.

Who?

Yes, who?

Mary


MBQ

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that someone can't find out from publicly available information anyway?

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I don't want to give them a shred of information. Yes, they may be able
to get certain details elsewhere but I want to make it as hard as
possible for them.

Who? If identity theft were as common as some people would have us
believe we would probably all know a victim personally. I've yet to see
any hard evidence of large scale identity theft occurring as a result
of someone trawling through the bins.

Still, I suppose we're supporting the shredder industry and keeping a
few people in jobs. They seem to be this years "must have" gadget.

MBQ

I don't know where you live but in London I know of at least 2 cases of
identity fraud with friends of friends. I've also had my bin contents
lifted and my credit cards scammed twice. The last time they even had
my home telephone number which they provided to the retailer! My father
had his credit card scammed. When I was at my sister's flat in central
London we caught a guy rifling through her bin bags - and no, he wasn't
a tramp. I'm not taking any chances.

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What details are there already filled in on such a credit card
application
that someone can't find out from publicly available information
anyway?

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Chris Green

I don't want to give them a shred of information. Yes, they may be able
to get certain details elsewhere but I want to make it as hard as
possible for them.

Who? If identity theft were as common as some people would have us
believe we would probably all know a victim personally. I've yet to see
any hard evidence of large scale identity theft occurring as a result
of someone trawling through the bins.

Still, I suppose we're supporting the shredder industry and keeping a
few people in jobs. They seem to be this years "must have" gadget.

MBQ

I don't know where you live but in London I know of at least 2 cases of
identity fraud with friends of friends. I've also had my bin contents
lifted and my credit cards scammed twice. The last time they even had
my home telephone number which they provided to the retailer! My father
had his credit card scammed. When I was at my sister's flat in central
London we caught a guy rifling through her bin bags - and no, he wasn't
a tramp. I'm not taking any chances.

I suggest living somewhere where people don't want what you have!

Mary

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wrote:
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What details are there already filled in on such a credit card
application
that someone can't find out from publicly available information
anyway?

--
Chris Green

I don't want to give them a shred of information. Yes, they may be
able to get certain details elsewhere but I want to make it as
hard as possible for them.

Who? If identity theft were as common as some people would have us
believe we would probably all know a victim personally. I've yet to
see any hard evidence of large scale identity theft occurring as a
result
of someone trawling through the bins.

Still, I suppose we're supporting the shredder industry and keeping
a few people in jobs. They seem to be this years "must have" gadget.

MBQ

I don't know where you live but in London I know of at least 2 cases
of identity fraud with friends of friends. I've also had my bin
contents lifted and my credit cards scammed twice. The last time
they even had
my home telephone number which they provided to the retailer! My
father had his credit card scammed. When I was at my sister's flat
in central London we caught a guy rifling through her bin bags - and
no, he wasn't
a tramp. I'm not taking any chances.

I suggest living somewhere where people don't want what you have!

Mary

that isn't very helpful, realistic /or/ nice, is it ?

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Mary Fisher wrote:
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wrote:
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What details are there already filled in on such a credit card
application
that someone can't find out from publicly available information
anyway?

--
Chris Green

I don't want to give them a shred of information. Yes, they may be
able to get certain details elsewhere but I want to make it as
hard as possible for them.

Who? If identity theft were as common as some people would have us
believe we would probably all know a victim personally. I've yet to
see any hard evidence of large scale identity theft occurring as a
result
of someone trawling through the bins.

Still, I suppose we're supporting the shredder industry and keeping
a few people in jobs. They seem to be this years "must have" gadget.

MBQ

I don't know where you live but in London I know of at least 2 cases
of identity fraud with friends of friends. I've also had my bin
contents lifted and my credit cards scammed twice. The last time
they even had
my home telephone number which they provided to the retailer! My
father had his credit card scammed. When I was at my sister's flat
in central London we caught a guy rifling through her bin bags - and
no, he wasn't
a tramp. I'm not taking any chances.

I suggest living somewhere where people don't want what you have!

Mary

that isn't very helpful, realistic /or/ nice, is it ?

er- it wasn't intended to be unhelpful, unreal or nasty :-)

Mary

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Still, I suppose we're supporting the shredder industry and keeping a
few people in jobs. They seem to be this years "must have" gadget.

MBQ

I don't know where you live but in London I know of at least 2 cases of
identity fraud with friends of friends. I've also had my bin contents
lifted and my credit cards scammed twice. The last time they even had
my home telephone number which they provided to the retailer! My father
had his credit card scammed. When I was at my sister's flat in central
London we caught a guy rifling through her bin bags - and no, he wasn't
a tramp. I'm not taking any chances.

I suggest living somewhere where people don't want what you have!

Mary


The moon perhaps? ;-)

I love where I live and it's not exactly a big deal to shred some
waste. I don't sit here sweating about it. It's no more than locking my
door when I leave the house, just something you do without too much
thought.

shrug

Everyone needs a hobby. Some root through bins, some sit shredding paper.

I do neither, Spouse shreds, I use the shredding in the compost (or as
bedding for the hens then the compost), we both enjoy the produce.

Mary

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Mary Fisher wrote:
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wrote:
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What details are there already filled in on such a credit card
application
that someone can't find out from publicly available information
anyway?

--
Chris Green

I don't want to give them a shred of information. Yes, they may
be able to get certain details elsewhere but I want to make it as
hard as possible for them.

Who? If identity theft were as common as some people would have us
believe we would probably all know a victim personally. I've yet
to see any hard evidence of large scale identity theft occurring
as a result
of someone trawling through the bins.

Still, I suppose we're supporting the shredder industry and
keeping a few people in jobs. They seem to be this years "must
have" gadget.

MBQ

I don't know where you live but in London I know of at least 2
cases of identity fraud with friends of friends. I've also had my
bin contents lifted and my credit cards scammed twice. The last
time they even had
my home telephone number which they provided to the retailer! My
father had his credit card scammed. When I was at my sister's flat
in central London we caught a guy rifling through her bin bags -
and no, he wasn't
a tramp. I'm not taking any chances.

I suggest living somewhere where people don't want what you have!

Mary

that isn't very helpful, realistic /or/ nice, is it ?

er- it wasn't intended to be unhelpful, unreal or nasty :-)

Mary

yet you managed all three.

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Mary Fisher wrote:
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wrote:
wrote:
What details are there already filled in on such a credit card
application
that someone can't find out from publicly available information
anyway?

--
Chris Green

I don't want to give them a shred of information. Yes, they may
be able to get certain details elsewhere but I want to make it as
hard as possible for them.

Who? If identity theft were as common as some people would have us
believe we would probably all know a victim personally. I've yet
to see any hard evidence of large scale identity theft occurring
as a result
of someone trawling through the bins.

Still, I suppose we're supporting the shredder industry and
keeping a few people in jobs. They seem to be this years "must
have" gadget.

MBQ

I don't know where you live but in London I know of at least 2
cases of identity fraud with friends of friends. I've also had my
bin contents lifted and my credit cards scammed twice. The last
time they even had
my home telephone number which they provided to the retailer! My
father had his credit card scammed. When I was at my sister's flat
in central London we caught a guy rifling through her bin bags -
and no, he wasn't
a tramp. I'm not taking any chances.

I suggest living somewhere where people don't want what you have!

Mary

that isn't very helpful, realistic /or/ nice, is it ?

er- it wasn't intended to be unhelpful, unreal or nasty :-)

Mary

yet you managed all three.

Well, if you explain why and I agree I'll apologise. I can't say better than
that.

Mary

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wrote:
wrote:
What details are there already filled in on such a credit card application
that someone can't find out from publicly available information anyway?

--
Chris Green

I don't want to give them a shred of information. Yes, they may be able
to get certain details elsewhere but I want to make it as hard as
possible for them.

Who? If identity theft were as common as some people would have us
believe we would probably all know a victim personally. I've yet to see
any hard evidence of large scale identity theft occurring as a result
of someone trawling through the bins.

Still, I suppose we're supporting the shredder industry and keeping a
few people in jobs. They seem to be this years "must have" gadget.

MBQ

I don't know where you live but in London I know of at least 2 cases of
identity fraud with friends of friends. I've also had my bin contents
lifted and my credit cards scammed twice. The last time they even had
my home telephone number which they provided to the retailer! My father
had his credit card scammed. When I was at my sister's flat in central
London we caught a guy rifling through her bin bags - and no, he wasn't
a tramp. I'm not taking any chances.

.... and how does shredding circulars offering you new credit cards
help prevent these things happening (though 'freinds of friends' are
ubiquitous in pub stories)?

--
Chris Green

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Mary Fisher wrote:

I suggest living somewhere where people don't want what you have!

Mary


The moon perhaps? ;-)

I love where I live and it's not exactly a big deal to shred some
waste. I don't sit here sweating about it. It's no more than locking my
door when I leave the house, just something you do without too much
thought.

We regularly forget to lock up and sometimes even leave the key in the
front door when we go out. So far nothing amiss has happened as a
result.

I don't want to spend more and more of my life wasting time on
'security' which is entirely unproductive. We have cars that no one
is likely to want to steal, our house is full of all sorts of things
which, while useful, are not too desirable. We spend our life doing
things we enjoy rather than shredding junk mail and checking on
alarms.

--
Chris Green

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Mary Fisher wrote:

I suggest living somewhere where people don't want what you have!

Mary


The moon perhaps? ;-)

I love where I live and it's not exactly a big deal to shred some
waste. I don't sit here sweating about it. It's no more than locking my
door when I leave the house, just something you do without too much
thought.

We regularly forget to lock up and sometimes even leave the key in the
front door when we go out. So far nothing amiss has happened as a
result.
)
I don't want to spend more and more of my life wasting time on
'security' which is entirely unproductive. We have cars that no one
is likely to want to steal, our house is full of all sorts of things
which, while useful, are not too desirable. We spend our life doing
things we enjoy rather than shredding junk mail and checking on
alarms.

I don't remember typing those two paragraphs ... but I must have done ...
LOL

I forgot to say though that Spouse occasionally used to leave his bunch of
keys in the car door overnight. Now he just forgets to click.

It's very amusing because he's paranoid about keys and cards, if I can't
find mine he thinks the world will come to an end. He won't accept that it's
just my memory at fault and that they're not actually lost. I've NEVER lost
keys whereas he's left them all over the place.

That key fob/card insurance scheme works VERY well :-)

Mary

--
Chris Green

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wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
What details are there already filled in on such a credit card application
that someone can't find out from publicly available information anyway?

--
Chris Green

I don't want to give them a shred of information. Yes, they may be able
to get certain details elsewhere but I want to make it as hard as
possible for them.

Who? If identity theft were as common as some people would have us
believe we would probably all know a victim personally. I've yet to see
any hard evidence of large scale identity theft occurring as a result
of someone trawling through the bins.

Still, I suppose we're supporting the shredder industry and keeping a
few people in jobs. They seem to be this years "must have" gadget.

MBQ

I don't know where you live but in London I know of at least 2 cases of
identity fraud with friends of friends. I've also had my bin contents
lifted and my credit cards scammed twice. The last time they even had
my home telephone number which they provided to the retailer! My father
had his credit card scammed. When I was at my sister's flat in central
London we caught a guy rifling through her bin bags - and no, he wasn't
a tramp. I'm not taking any chances.

... and how does shredding circulars offering you new credit cards
help prevent these things happening (though 'freinds of friends' are
ubiquitous in pub stories)?

--
Chris Green

No, it's called being honest. I could have said it happened to 10
personal friends of mine but I told the truth. Bull****ters in pubs
would always say 'a mate of theirs' not a friend of a friend. And that
'mate' normally being the other side of the world in another pub. In
fact one was a friend of my sister so it was only half true, I suppose.
Anyway, I don't spend my life in pubs, I spend my life doing things I
enjoy. And maybe if you didn't spend your time here trying to talk down
to others about how great your life is you could spend it doing things
you enjoy - unless, as I suspect, this is one of them.

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wrote:
What details are there already filled in on such a credit card application
that someone can't find out from publicly available information anyway?

--
Chris Green

I don't want to give them a shred of information. Yes, they may be able
to get certain details elsewhere but I want to make it as hard as
possible for them.

Who? If identity theft were as common as some people would have us
believe we would probably all know a victim personally. I've yet to see
any hard evidence of large scale identity theft occurring as a result
of someone trawling through the bins.

Still, I suppose we're supporting the shredder industry and keeping a
few people in jobs. They seem to be this years "must have" gadget.

MBQ

I don't know where you live but in London I know of at least 2 cases of
identity fraud with friends of friends. I've also had my bin contents
lifted and my credit cards scammed twice. The last time they even had
my home telephone number which they provided to the retailer! My father
had his credit card scammed. When I was at my sister's flat in central
London we caught a guy rifling through her bin bags - and no, he wasn't
a tramp. I'm not taking any chances.

... and how does shredding circulars offering you new credit cards
help prevent these things happening (though 'freinds of friends' are
ubiquitous in pub stories)?

--
Chris Green

No, it's called being honest. I could have said it happened to 10
personal friends of mine but I told the truth. Bull****ters in pubs
would always say 'a mate of theirs' not a friend of a friend. And that
'mate' normally being the other side of the world in another pub. In
fact one was a friend of my sister so it was only half true, I suppose.
Anyway, I don't spend my life in pubs, I spend my life doing things I
enjoy. And maybe if you didn't spend your time here trying to talk down
to others about how great your life is you could spend it doing things
you enjoy - unless, as I suspect, this is one of them.

.... and how does shredding circulars offering you new credit cards
help prevent these things happening

--
Chris Green

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:54:39 -0000, "Blair"
wrote:

Any recommendations for purchase of a paper shredder and which to avoid
Blair


For something worthwhile in terms of security, a crosscut is
necessary.

The strip ones are worthless.
.andy

Thanks for your help.
I decided to buy a crosscut and bought one for £15 from Tesco. As I am only
a small user this model suits me fine. Operation is slick.
Thanks again to all who contributed.
Blair

"Blair" wrote in message
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:54:39 -0000, "Blair"
wrote:

Any recommendations for purchase of a paper shredder and which to avoid
Blair


For something worthwhile in terms of security, a crosscut is
necessary.

The strip ones are worthless.
.andy

Thanks for your help.
I decided to buy a crosscut and bought one for £15 from Tesco. As I am
only
a small user this model suits me fine. Operation is slick.
Thanks again to all who contributed.

I think we may have the same Tesco's one- black basket with silver and black
'gubbins' ?

I've had that one for about 8 months and it gets daily use. Still going now,
but sounds strained on times! A good squirt of WD40 on the cutters
periodically seems to help it considerably.

Tim..

"Tim (remove obvious)" wrote in
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"Blair" wrote in message
...

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:54:39 -0000, "Blair"
wrote:

Any recommendations for purchase of a paper shredder and which to
avoid
Blair


For something worthwhile in terms of security, a crosscut is
necessary.

The strip ones are worthless.
.andy

Thanks for your help.
I decided to buy a crosscut and bought one for £15 from Tesco. As I am
only
a small user this model suits me fine. Operation is slick.
Thanks again to all who contributed.

I think we may have the same Tesco's one- black basket with silver and
black
'gubbins' ?

I've had that one for about 8 months and it gets daily use. Still going
now,
but sounds strained on times! A good squirt of WD40 on the cutters
periodically seems to help it considerably.

Tim..

Yes that's the one. Also thanks for that tip Tim
Blair