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Have got mice.
Killed two in traps (the sprung "splat" variety) baited with a large pile of poison: http://www.epinions.com/Woodstream_V...Pest_Co ntrol But we have a third - it just eats all the poison - and the trap does not go off ! It's really strange - done that four times now, so I guess it's very sick.. The traps (I have four) just do not seem to be sensitive enough...though they worked on two. How many mice should I expect in a "nest" ???? Thanks |
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wrote in message ups.com... Have got mice. Killed two in traps (the sprung "splat" variety) baited with a large pile of poison: http://www.epinions.com/Woodstream_V...Pest_Co ntrol But we have a third - it just eats all the poison - and the trap does not go off ! It's really strange - done that four times now, so I guess it's very sick.. The traps (I have four) just do not seem to be sensitive enough...though they worked on two. How many mice should I expect in a "nest" ???? Thanks Normally quite a few. You probably got the parent and the offspring are much smaller so not setting off the trap. You'll have to feed them up until they do. |
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wrote: Have got mice. Killed two in traps (the sprung "splat" variety) baited with a large pile of poison: http://www.epinions.com/Woodstream_V...Pest_Co ntrol But we have a third - it just eats all the poison - and the trap does not go off ! It's really strange - done that four times now, so I guess it's very sick.. No need for expensive poison - just good bait. I have used rasins or prunes in the past. You need to TIE the bait to the release arm with a bit of wire, if you don't, they can nibble it away without springing it, so use tiable bait, not a paste. Gordon |
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I removed an old back boiler from the fireplace and found a nest in the
outer chimney wall - at first I thought there was only one mouse, how wrong I was... Anyway, I got a trap - just one mind you, and spent about 4 quid on it, a posh plastic affair, and used chocolate as bait. The little bug**rs kept taking the chocolate from the trap without setting it off, that trap never caught a single one! I bought some cheapo 50p wooden traps and arranged obstacles in front of the fireplace so that they'd have to pass over the trap to get out, this got them every time. I used chocolate as bait the first couple of times, but then had no more (it got eaten!), so I just set the trap without bait. This caught another two of them within 24 hours. We had four in total, touch wood we haven't seen any more for the last month or so. The way to go seems to be to force them to take a specific route. Don't use poison as they'll just go off to die somewhere inaccessible, and then stink out the house for months to come. Phil |
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Reading up on it, after I spotted a mouse happily running around the
living room, it seems the official advice is prevent access as you can't fight the buggers, they breed too quickly. To that end I fixed fine stainless steel mesh to all my low level air bricks and haven't seen any, or any evidence, of 'em since. Remember, if you can poke a pencil into something that's big enough for them to get through. They can compress their skeletons down to amazingly small proportions without ill effect. Regards Mark |
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wrote: Anyway, I got a trap - just one mind you, and spent about 4 quid on it, a posh plastic affair, and used chocolate as bait. The little bug**rs kept taking the chocolate from the trap without setting it off, that trap never caught a single one! A mouse will just crouch there, licking away at the chocolate. Eventually one *might* try to lift the lump off, and spring the trap, but it doesn't seem to happen often. A nice oily roasted peanut seems to attract mice quite well. -- Tony Williams. |
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"Tony Williams" wrote in message ... In article .com, wrote: Anyway, I got a trap - just one mind you, and spent about 4 quid on it, a posh plastic affair, and used chocolate as bait. The little bug**rs kept taking the chocolate from the trap without setting it off, that trap never caught a single one! A mouse will just crouch there, licking away at the chocolate. Eventually one *might* try to lift the lump off, and spring the trap, but it doesn't seem to happen often. A nice oily roasted peanut seems to attract mice quite well. -- I used to us a bit of bread smeared with sunflower spread and dipped in sugar as bait for a spring trap. Now I use a humane no-kill trap baited with a blob of peanut butter. Usually works within a few hours. Henry |
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:51:36 +0000, Mark A wrote:
To that end I fixed fine stainless steel mesh to all my low level air bricks and haven't seen any, or any evidence, of 'em since. Remember, if you can poke a pencil into something that's big enough for them to get through. They can compress their skeletons down to amazingly small proportions without ill effect. Regards Mark Living with them as regular visitors to the house we have largely given up trying to stop them getting in, as you say they can get in amazingly small gaps. They seem to be largely winter visitors here coming in off the fields when it gets too cold for them. I normally find them to be of little nuiscance apart from the time when they proceeded to gnaw the tops off a cupboard full of Tupperware when we were away. That did push my patience a little. -- Regards Tony (Take out the garbage to reply) |
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:32:56 +0000, Tony Hogarty
wrote: |Living with them as regular visitors to the house we have largely given up |trying to stop them getting in, as you say they can get in amazingly small |gaps. They seem to be largely winter visitors here coming in off the |fields when it gets too cold for them. | |I normally find them to be of little nuiscance apart from the time when |they proceeded to gnaw the tops off a cupboard full of Tupperware when we |were away. That did push my patience a little. Well mice are doublley incontinent. If you don't mind them peeing and ****ting over your food and property, also making everywhere stink. that is your problem. My house is permanently baited where nothing but a mouse can get. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Please quote, with quote character, previous post sniped to only the bit you are replying to. Threads often contain 100s of posts dozens layers deep. Other people use different newsreaders, they do not see or do what you see and do. |
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On 30 Jan 2006 01:44:48 -0800
wrote: Have got mice. Killed two in traps (the sprung "splat" variety) baited with a large pile of poison: http://www.epinions.com/Woodstream_V...Pest_Co ntrol But we have a third - it just eats all the poison - and the trap does not go off ! It's really strange - done that four times now, so I guess it's very sick.. The traps (I have four) just do not seem to be sensitive enough...though they worked on two. How many mice should I expect in a "nest" ???? Thanks At least two, probably more. Also a word on Traps. The so called 'Humane' traps are the least humane things ever. Unless you can guarantee to check them every 2-3 hours any mouse caught in one will die in a horrible way. I had one and found the mouse the next morning stone dead, drenched in sweat and urine. Never again. A good clean kill with an old-fashioned spring trap is the best. R. |
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Henry wrote:
Now I use a humane no-kill trap baited with a blob of peanut butter. In what way is the use of these traps humane? I assume you trap them alive then release them outside your house alive -- This post contains no hidden meanings, no implications and certainly no hidden agendas so it should be taken at face value. The wrong words may be used this is due to my limitations with the English language . |
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At least two, probably more. Also a word on Traps. The so called 'Humane' traps are the least humane things ever. Unless you can guarantee to check them every 2-3 hours any mouse caught in one will die in a horrible way. It's what I use/used and the mice have always been perfectly happy the following morning to be released. 'Course I made the initial mistake of releasing them in the back garden, then across the road, and eventually across the other side of the green I live on. Talking to professional exterminator he reckoned if you're going to release them make it at least half a mile as they will have found their way back to your house in under five minutes. I compromised by releasing them somewhere far enough away and hopefully more attractive. Not sure my neighbours liked that plan though. Thankfully I haven't had to do it in over a year. Regards Mark |
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soup wrote:
Henry wrote: Now I use a humane no-kill trap baited with a blob of peanut butter. In what way is the use of these traps humane? It provides a sustainable, green source of cat toys. |
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"Ian Stirling" wrote in message ... soup wrote: Henry wrote: Now I use a humane no-kill trap baited with a blob of peanut butter. In what way is the use of these traps humane? It provides a sustainable, green source of cat toys. Indeed of the mice which are brought in by my cats those that are not too mashed up get caught in the humane trap and get a second chance to be cat prey once again. :-) Henry |
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Mark A wrote:
Richard A Downing wrote: At least two, probably more. Also a word on Traps. The so called 'Humane' traps are the least humane things ever. Unless you can guarantee to check them every 2-3 hours any mouse caught in one will die in a horrible way. It's what I use/used and the mice have always been perfectly happy the following morning to be released. Yes we have one and I think I've only had one 'fatality' (when admittedly I unfortunately forgot I'd set the trap), versus half a dozen extremely perky live ones (released on the other side of town). David |
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Yes we have one (released on the other side of town). Where they become food for the local predators after all these are mice that have been born or adapted to life in the enviroment of inside a house not "out in the wild". What is more humane being killed quickly or being eaten, possibly still "kicking and screaming"? -- This post contains no hidden meanings, no implications and certainly no hidden agendas so it should be taken at face value. The wrong words may be used this is due to my limitations with the English language . |
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:12:06 GMT, Lobster
wrote: |Mark A wrote: | Richard A Downing wrote: | |At least two, probably more. Also a word on Traps. The so called |'Humane' traps are the least humane things ever. Unless you can |guarantee to check them every 2-3 hours any mouse caught in one will |die in a horrible way. | | It's what I use/used and the mice have always been perfectly happy the | following morning to be released. | |Yes we have one and I think I've only had one 'fatality' (when |admittedly I unfortunately forgot I'd set the trap), versus half a dozen |extremely perky live ones (released on the other side of town). Where they either went into someone else's house, or got killed by the local cats. Not a good idea :-( -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Please quote, with quote character, previous post sniped to only the bit you are replying to. Threads often contain 100s of posts dozens layers deep. Other people use different newsreaders, they do not see or do what you see and do. |
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I used a small bit of twix with a normal cheapo spring trap. you can
stick it down by the toffee side so it stays in place. true they cna lick the chocolate off but they then have to be bit more active to get at the biscuit and this sets them off. worked every time for me, once within 20 minutes of setting it in the loft. Nigel Molesworth wrote: On 30 Jan 2006 01:44:48 -0800, wrote: Killed two in traps (the sprung "splat" variety) baited with a large pile of poison: Don't use poison, or chocolate. Depending on your location, you could be feeding every mouse in a 50m radius, so potentially dozens. -- Nigel M |
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"Henry" Henryaintgonnatell.sunnysideup.com wrote in message ... I used to us a bit of bread smeared with sunflower spread and dipped in sugar as bait for a spring trap. Now I use a humane no-kill trap baited with a blob of peanut butter. Usually works within a few hours. And what do you do with the living mice you trap? Mary Henry |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message t... "Henry" Henryaintgonnatell.sunnysideup.com wrote in message ... I used to us a bit of bread smeared with sunflower spread and dipped in sugar as bait for a spring trap. Now I use a humane no-kill trap baited with a blob of peanut butter. Usually works within a few hours. And what do you do with the living mice you trap? Mary Henry As I said in my previous post I put them out to be caught again. Henry |
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Henry wrote:
Indeed of the mice which are brought in by my cats those that are not too mashed up get caught in the humane trap and get a second chance to be cat prey once again. :-) Yep - same here. Some of our local mice have Loyalty Cards..... |
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Lobster wrote: Yes we have one (released on the other side of town). Where they become food for the local predators after all these are mice that have been born or adapted to life in the enviroment of inside a house not "out in the wild". What is more humane being killed quickly or being eaten, possibly still "kicking and screaming"? If I were a mouse, I'd choose the slim chance of survival. |
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Lobster wrote: Yes we have one (released on the other side of town). Where they become food for the local predators after all these are mice that have been born or adapted to life in the enviroment of inside a house not "out in the wild". What is more humane being killed quickly or being eaten, possibly still "kicking and screaming"? Ah but it's not very humane for me having to listen to my kids banging on all weekend about how cruel it is for Dad to kill poor little mousie... so - Dad captures it and re-releases it live; mouse is removed from my property - result Dad happy, kids happy.... Dad still happy. |
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:28:51 GMT, Lobster
wrote: |Ah but it's not very humane for me having to listen to my kids banging |on all weekend about how cruel it is for Dad to kill poor little |mousie... so - Dad captures it and re-releases it live; mouse is removed |from my property - result Dad happy, kids happy.... Dad still happy. One of Dad's jobs is to educate the kids about the unpleasant aspects of life. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Please quote, with quote character, previous post sniped to only the bit you are replying to. Threads often contain 100s of posts dozens layers deep. Other people use different newsreaders, they do not see or do what you see and do. |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like: The traps (I have four) just do not seem to be sensitive enough...though they worked on two. How many mice should I expect in a "nest" ???? I've tried the super-dooper modern plastic traps with some success, but for consistency I've found the traditional wooden jobs pretty good. The trick is the right bait (I use a sliver of dog chewy treat) and getting the release just right. It's effective. Got about a dozen of them in the past month. No more for the past week and no sign of them, so I reckon I've accounted for this lot anway. -- Dave |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "soup" saying something like: Lobster wrote: Yes we have one (released on the other side of town). Where they become food for the local predators shrug Big deal; they're only ****ing mice. -- Dave |
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On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:33:39 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
(released on the other side of town). Where they become food for the local predators shrug Big deal; We live capture and release (miles, literally, from any human habitation). Why deprive the local predators of a food source? I like stoats, weasels, the half a dozen or so birds of prey that live around here. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:31:35 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote: I've tried the super-dooper modern plastic traps with some success, I've been unimpressed with those. They're just too sensitive - if the mouse knocks them from behind they can go off. This probably makes the mouse more wary of the traps for the future and certainly doesn't catch them. |
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On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 23:50:20 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote: |On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:33:39 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: | | (released on the other side of town). | | Where they become food for the local predators | | shrug | | Big deal; | |We live capture and release (miles, literally, from any human |habitation). Why deprive the local predators of a food source? I like |stoats, weasels, the half a dozen or so birds of prey that live around |here. If I were a mouse with the choice, I would prefer to die in a "Little Nipper" brake back trap. Wham you are dead. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Please quote, with quote character, previous post sniped to only the bit you are replying to. Threads often contain 100s of posts dozens layers deep. Other people use different newsreaders, they do not see or do what you see and do. |
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On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 07:16:47 +0000, Dave Fawthrop wrote:
If I were a mouse with the choice, I would prefer to die in a "Little Nipper" brake back trap. Wham you are dead. A bite, you're dead, Stoats and Weasles take rabbits, a mouse is a mere nibble. Birds of prey are in for a quick kill as well. It's only well fed domestic cats that play with their "prey" because they don't *need* to kill to live. A wild predator kills to live, it doesn't want to give any prey the chance to escape. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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"Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:31:35 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: I've tried the super-dooper modern plastic traps with some success, I've been unimpressed with those. They're just too sensitive - if the mouse knocks them from behind they can go off. This probably makes the mouse more wary of the traps for the future and certainly doesn't catch them. worked ok with my mice but I had to tie the bait to them as they managed to take the first lot without springing it, not had it once go off with out catching one apart for the time its had me :-) |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Owain saying something like: Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: shrug Big deal; they're only ****ing mice. If they started ****ing dobermanns the offspring would be worth worrying about. Need some proper traps, then. A goat tied to a stake and a Great White Hunter up on the stair landing, complete with Nitro Express. -- Dave |
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On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:33:39 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
they're only ****ing mice. Don't they split? -- Nigel M |
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Nigel Molesworth wrote: On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:33:39 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: they're only ****ing mice. Don't they split? Cue another thread on duck tape ... :-) |
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