I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web
version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been
built with timber stud partitions".

My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs
and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is
he talking ********?

MBQ

wrote:
I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web
version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been
built with timber stud partitions".

My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs
and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or
is he talking ********?

MBQ

He's talking ********! victorian terraced houses have always been 'brick'
partitions

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

He's talking ********! victorian terraced houses have always been 'brick'
partitions
And an awful lot of not-as-old-as-victorian houses had cinder block,
which gives
grey dust when you drill it. Partition walls in new houses resonate
like a drum.
I thought there were to be some new regs about sound transmission
between rooms.
If so, maybe the barrat boxes will have to start using blocks again
between bedrooms.
Simon.

manatbandq wrote:
I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web
version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been
built with timber stud partitions".

My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs
and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is
he talking ********?

I think it's interpretation and terminology - a partition
wall just divides a larger space, and isn't vital to the
structure as a whole. Note, he says "have always been built
with", rather that "are always built with", with which I
can agree.

The3rd Earl Of Derby wrote:
wrote:
I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web
version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been
built with timber stud partitions".

My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs
and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or
is he talking ********?

MBQ

He's talking ********! victorian terraced houses have always been
'brick' partitions

oops! hold the front page, recollections of me younger days on the job
reveals some walls where studded, they being a none load bearing wall.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

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I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web
version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been
built with timber stud partitions".

My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs
and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is
he talking ********?


Yep ********
but while we are on the subject, is it safe to assume partitions that run in
the direction
of the beams above are not supporting walls ?
is it also safe to assume all upstairs walls with just the loft above are
non supporting (provided there is no obvious roof strut resting upon it)
--
Vass

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I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web
version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been
built with timber stud partitions".

My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs
and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is
he talking ********?

It depends on your interpretation of what he wrote.

Timber stud partitions (aka walls) have been used in British houses for
centuries - but not to the exclusion of other methods. Thus, British houses
HAVE always been built with timber stud partitions. Not ALL British houses
have been built with timber stud partitions.

Boy babies have always been born to women but not all babies born to women
have been boys.

Thank goodness.

People do tend to assume that readers will understand what they write.
Readers do tend to put their own connotation on anything which could be
ambiguous.

There are many examples of each in newsgroups and this one isn't an
exception.

Mary

On 18 Jan 2006 04:11:06 -0800, wrote:

I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web
version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been
built with timber stud partitions".

My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs
and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is
he talking ********?

MBQ


He's generally "not well informed" to be kind about it.

There was an article on condensing boilers some while ago, where he
dredged up information based on UK first generation products (which
were crap) and what he might have heard at the morning mother's
meeting in the plumbing merchants. A great deal of inaccurate
information.

I can think of a variety of wall construction methods that I have seen
for partition walls (meaning non-structural):

- single brick
- single concrete block
- single breezeblock
- lath and plaster on timber studs
- plasterboard on studs
- paramount
- ....

etc.


--

..andy

Vass wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web
version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been
built with timber stud partitions".

My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs
and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is
he talking ********?


Yep ********
but while we are on the subject, is it safe to assume partitions that run in
the direction
of the beams above are not supporting walls ?
is it also safe to assume all upstairs walls with just the loft above are
non supporting (provided there is no obvious roof strut resting upon it)

They could be buttressing a wall that they meet at right angles.

MBQ

On 18 Jan 2006 04:11:06 -0800, wrote:

|I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web
|version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been
|built with timber stud partitions".
|
|My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs
|and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is
|he talking ********?

The equivalent in medieval houses was wattle and daub which was clearly the
predecessor of timber stud partitions.
--
Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk
17,000 free e-books at Project Gutenberg! http://www.gutenberg.net
For Yorkshire Dialect go to www.hyphenologist.co.uk/songs/

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:59:50 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
wrote:

|
wrote in message
roups.com...
|I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web
| version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been
| built with timber stud partitions".
|
| My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs
| and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is
| he talking ********?
|
|It depends on your interpretation of what he wrote.
|
|Timber stud partitions (aka walls) have been used in British houses for
|centuries - but not to the exclusion of other methods. Thus, British houses
|HAVE always been built with timber stud partitions. Not ALL British houses
|have been built with timber stud partitions.
|
|Boy babies have always been born to women but not all babies born to women
|have been boys.
|
|Thank goodness.
|
|People do tend to assume that readers will understand what they write.
|Readers do tend to put their own connotation on anything which could be
|ambiguous.
|
|There are many examples of each in newsgroups and this one isn't an
|exception.

OMG I agree with Mary ;-)
--
Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk
17,000 free e-books at Project Gutenberg! http://www.gutenberg.net
For Yorkshire Dialect go to www.hyphenologist.co.uk/songs/

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
...
On 18 Jan 2006 04:11:06 -0800, wrote:

I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web
version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been
built with timber stud partitions".

My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs
and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is
he talking ********?

MBQ


He's generally "not well informed" to be kind about it.

There was an article on condensing boilers some while ago, where he
dredged up information based on UK first generation products (which
were crap) and what he might have heard at the morning mother's
meeting in the plumbing merchants. A great deal of inaccurate
information.

I can think of a variety of wall construction methods that I have seen
for partition walls (meaning non-structural):

- single brick
- single concrete block
- single breezeblock
- lath and plaster on timber studs
- plasterboard on studs
- paramount
- ....

I can add:
2" plaster blocks reinforced with straw and covered with sand/cement render
then plaster (I have some!).

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Vass wrote:
wrote in message
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I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web
version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been
built with timber stud partitions".

My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs
and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or is
he talking ********?


Yep ********
but while we are on the subject, is it safe to assume partitions that run
in
the direction
of the beams above are not supporting walls ?
is it also safe to assume all upstairs walls with just the loft above are
non supporting (provided there is no obvious roof strut resting upon it)

They could be buttressing a wall that they meet at right angles.

yes of course, silly me
--
Vass

Vass wrote:

Yep ********
but while we are on the subject, is it safe to assume partitions that run in
the direction
of the beams above are not supporting walls ?
is it also safe to assume all upstairs walls with just the loft above are
non supporting (provided there is no obvious roof strut resting upon it)

These walls often support the joists above, plus maybe water tanks.

NT

In article ,
"The3rd Earl Of Derby" writes:
wrote:
I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph (web
version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have always been
built with timber stud partitions".

My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs
and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or
is he talking ********?

He's talking ********! victorian terraced houses have always been 'brick'
partitions

No, you are. Timber framed lath and plaster
walls are common in Victorian terraced houses.
T&G panelled walls are also not unknown from
that time.

--
Andrew Gabriel

Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"The3rd Earl Of Derby" writes:
wrote:
I normally like to read the Jeff Howwell column in the Telegraph
(web version) but in todays issue he says "British houses have
always been built with timber stud partitions".

My early 70s house has brick or blockwork walls throughout, upstairs
and down. Should these be called something other than partitions, or
is he talking ********?

He's talking ********! victorian terraced houses have always been
'brick' partitions

No, you are. Timber framed lath and plaster
walls are common in Victorian terraced houses.
T&G panelled walls are also not unknown from
that time.

Woops! and then somewhere else in the thread I said...

"oops! hold the front page, recollections of me younger days on the job
reveals some walls where studded, they being a none load bearing wall".


--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite