not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

"news" wrote in message
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not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

I will not entertain cheapos. Get a boiloer with:

- downward firing burner
- one piece heat exchanger.

Anything less is silly.

Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
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not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?


I will not entertain cheapos. Get a boiloer with:

- downward firing burner
- one piece heat exchanger.

Anything less is silly.

But still what the OP asked for.

"Richard Conway" confusingly wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
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not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

I will not entertain cheapos. Get a boiloer with:

- downward firing burner
- one piece heat exchanger.

Anything less is silly.

But still what the OP asked for.

Russ, I will not encourage cowboys. This cowboy man must be redeemed, and
the bad thoughts purged from his mind.

Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
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not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

I will not entertain cheapos. Get a boiloer with:

where can I purchase a 'boiloer' ? and what does one look like ?

the house the boiler is going into is up for sale as soon as it's finished so
low price is the prime concern.

so, cheapest condensing combi boiler ?

Doctor Drivel wrote:
"Richard Conway" confusingly wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

"news" wrote in message
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not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

I will not entertain cheapos. Get a boiloer with:

- downward firing burner
- one piece heat exchanger.

Anything less is silly.

But still what the OP asked for.


Russ, I will not encourage cowboys. This cowboy man must be redeemed, and
the bad thoughts purged from his mind.

Good luck with the redemption and the purging then.

"news" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
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not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

I will not entertain cheapos. Get a boiloer with:

where can I purchase a 'boiloer' ? and what does one look like ?

the house the boiler is going into is up for sale as soon as it's finished
so
low price is the prime concern.

so, cheapest condensing combi boiler ?


Hitching up my Beeny Bra for a mo, I'd say the cost of replacing the boiler
will probably be more than the amount you'd lose off the price of the house
if you left it, but then maybe that's not the issue. A really cheapo boiler
that I'd need to replace soon could put me off buying )

Peter

"news" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
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not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

I will not entertain cheapos. Get a boiloer with:

where can I purchase a 'boiloer' ? and what does one look like ?

the house the boiler is going into is up for sale as soon as it's finished
so
low price is the prime concern.

so, cheapest condensing combi boiler ?

Then someone else has to out up with the crap you fitted.

Peter Taylor wrote:
"news" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
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not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

I will not entertain cheapos. Get a boiloer with:

where can I purchase a 'boiloer' ? and what does one look like ?

the house the boiler is going into is up for sale as soon as it's
finished so
low price is the prime concern.

so, cheapest condensing combi boiler ?


Hitching up my Beeny Bra for a mo, I'd say the cost of replacing the
boiler will probably be more than the amount you'd lose off the price
of the house if you left it, but then maybe that's not the issue. A
really cheapo boiler that I'd need to replace soon could put me off
buying )

iswym. but

how about buying a house with a fubar boiler that the local plumber will
quote £1k+ for fitting ? no, neither would I. buying a house with a new boiler
with the reciept taped to the front of it would set my mind at ease somewhat.

I can get a new boiler installed for £100 and a homemade curry/pizza and that
includes connecting an aditional radiator, so all I'm after is the cheapest boiler.

the boiler is at least 20 years old and sadly fubar. in the last year it's gas valve
has been replaced, the diverter valve was replaced and now it's diaphgram is
split. oh, and it's blowing fuses which points to the circuit board.

so, cheapest condensing combi anyone ?

Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
...
not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

I will not entertain cheapos. Get a boiloer with:

where can I purchase a 'boiloer' ? and what does one look like ?

the house the boiler is going into is up for sale as soon as it's
finished so low price is the prime concern.

so, cheapest condensing combi boiler ?

Then someone else has to out up with the crap you fitted.

it's only crap in your opinion and neither i nor the prospective buyer
(or 99.9% of usenet for that matter) give any weight to that.

Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

"news" wrote in message
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not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

I will not entertain cheapos. Get a boiloer with:

where can I purchase a 'boiloer' ? and what does one look like ?

the house the boiler is going into is up for sale as soon as it's finished

so

low price is the prime concern.

so, cheapest condensing combi boiler ?


Then someone else has to out up with the crap you fitted.

What's better - one expensive combi or two cheap ones?

"news" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
...
not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

I will not entertain cheapos. Get a boiloer with:

where can I purchase a 'boiloer' ? and what does one look like ?

the house the boiler is going into is up for sale as soon as it's
finished so low price is the prime concern.

so, cheapest condensing combi boiler ?

Then someone else has to out up with the crap you fitted.

it's only crap in your opinion

The are crap - fact!!!. They have secondary heat exchangers. They are prone
to early failure.

"Richard Conway" had a big thought and wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

"news" wrote in message
...

not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

I will not entertain cheapos. Get a boiloer with:

where can I purchase a 'boiloer' ? and what does one look like ?

the house the boiler is going into is up for sale as soon as it's
finished

so

low price is the prime concern.

so, cheapest condensing combi boiler ?

Then someone else has to out up with the crap you fitted.

What's better - one expensive combi or two cheap ones?

Russ/Andy, Two combis that are not cheap and "nasty". Now do some thinking
about that, then you will be a better man for it.

Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
...
not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

I will not entertain cheapos. Get a boiloer with:

where can I purchase a 'boiloer' ? and what does one look like ?

the house the boiler is going into is up for sale as soon as it's
finished so low price is the prime concern.

so, cheapest condensing combi boiler ?

Then someone else has to out up with the crap you fitted.

it's only crap in your opinion

The are crap - fact!!!. They have secondary heat exchangers. They are
prone to early failure.

I don't care. if I get any comebacks I'll point the buyers to trading standards
and the SOG acts durability / fit for purpose section. if you can point me in
the direction of the cheapest boiler, please do. if not, why bother wasting
your time replying ?

In article , News wrote:
I don't care. if I get any comebacks I'll point the buyers to
trading standards and the SOG acts durability / fit for purpose
section.

The buyers will have no comeback surely: they didn't buy the boiler.

--
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Tony Bryer wrote:
In article , News wrote:
I don't care. if I get any comebacks I'll point the buyers to
trading standards and the SOG acts durability / fit for purpose
section.

The buyers will have no comeback surely: they didn't buy the boiler.

crikey, this is tiring.

what I don't want is a buyer to try it on alleging that I knew that the boiler
was fubar at the point of sale. I'll fit a new boiler, give the buyer the reciept
and sleep easy. the profit from the sale of the house waaay exceeds the cost
of the boiler+installation £+curry for brother in law and in the meantime the
people living in the property won't be living with a dodgy boiler which may
pack up altogether, mid winter. given it's recent track record that is expected!

news wrote:
not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?


Dont know if they are the cheapest but they are cheaper

http://www.uselessenergy.org.uk/boil...s.asp#wallhung

Paul

So with all this talk of cheap boilers, what make of boilers have a one
piece heat exchanger?

wrote in message
oups.com...
So with all this talk of cheap boilers, what make of boilers have a one
piece heat exchanger?

Ideal: Icos, Istar
Keston: all
Viessmann: all
Worcester-Bosch Greenstar and others
Eco-Hometec
Quantum
Gledhill
Potterton Promax (spit)
Nearly all the expensive top makes.

Doctor Drivel wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
So with all this talk of cheap boilers, what make of boilers have a
one piece heat exchanger?

Ideal: Icos, Istar
Keston: all
Viessmann: all
Worcester-Bosch Greenstar and others
Eco-Hometec
Quantum
Gledhill
Potterton Promax (spit)
Nearly all the expensive top makes.

you seem to have missed the point :- cheapest

not best, not your ideal boiler (or mine, for my house) the *cheapest*
condensing combi available in the UK

anyone ?

"news" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
So with all this talk of cheap boilers, what make of boilers have a
one piece heat exchanger?

Ideal: Icos, Istar
Keston: all
Viessmann: all
Worcester-Bosch Greenstar and others
Eco-Hometec
Quantum
Gledhill
Potterton Promax (spit)
Nearly all the expensive top makes.

you seem to have missed the point :- cheapest

They are cheap. None are nasty.

Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
So with all this talk of cheap boilers, what make of boilers have a
one piece heat exchanger?

Ideal: Icos, Istar
Keston: all
Viessmann: all
Worcester-Bosch Greenstar and others
Eco-Hometec
Quantum
Gledhill
Potterton Promax (spit)
Nearly all the expensive top makes.

you seem to have missed the point :- cheapest

They are cheap. None are nasty.

good luck with your issues

[plonk]

"news" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:
"news" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
So with all this talk of cheap boilers, what make of boilers have a
one piece heat exchanger?

Ideal: Icos, Istar
Keston: all
Viessmann: all
Worcester-Bosch Greenstar and others
Eco-Hometec
Quantum
Gledhill
Potterton Promax (spit)
Nearly all the expensive top makes.

you seem to have missed the point :- cheapest

They are cheap. None are nasty.

good luck with your issues

[plonk]

Good you got no change from me. Cowboys.

In message , news
writes

the boiler is at least 20 years old and sadly fubar. in the last year
it's gas valve
has been replaced, the diverter valve was replaced and now it's diaphgram is
split. oh, and it's blowing fuses which points to the circuit board.

What boiler ?

--
geoff

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:36:40 +0000, news wrote:

not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

biasi, heatline, ravenheat, Wickes, B&Q, (s/fix no longer does one).
Maybe Halstead too.

The Vokera Synesi 25 was around 500+VAT on uselessenergy.
However that site doesn't have the really low end kit.

If you are looking for a plain heating boiler then carefully work out the
lowest power you can get away with. One or two manufacturers have a
really crazy pricing structure where the low power model are much
cheaper. It's like the electric shower prices and just as irrational.

The 9kW Potterton Suprima 30HE plain heating boiler is 300+VAT
Blimey that's not much more than they charge for the replacement PCB.
You add £5 for each 3kW added up to 18kW.
I suspect that it really is the same boiler with a slightly different jet
and maybe burner in each model.

HTH

--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html

Ed Sirett wrote:
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:36:40 +0000, news wrote:

not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

biasi, heatline, ravenheat, Wickes, B&Q, (s/fix no longer does one).
Maybe Halstead too.

The Vokera Synesi 25 was around 500+VAT on uselessenergy.
However that site doesn't have the really low end kit.

If you are looking for a plain heating boiler then carefully work
out the lowest power you can get away with. One or two manufacturers
have a really crazy pricing structure where the low power model are
much cheaper. It's like the electric shower prices and just as
irrational.

The 9kW Potterton Suprima 30HE plain heating boiler is 300+VAT
Blimey that's not much more than they charge for the replacement PCB.
You add £5 for each 3kW added up to 18kW.
I suspect that it really is the same boiler with a slightly different
jet and maybe burner in each model.

HTH

thanks ED I'll check them out

"news" wrote in message
...
Ed Sirett wrote:
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:36:40 +0000, news wrote:

not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

biasi, heatline, ravenheat, Wickes, B&Q, (s/fix no longer does one).
Maybe Halstead too.

The Vokera Synesi 25 was around 500+VAT on uselessenergy.
However that site doesn't have the really low end kit.

If you are looking for a plain heating boiler then carefully work
out the lowest power you can get away with. One or two manufacturers
have a really crazy pricing structure where the low power model are
much cheaper. It's like the electric shower prices and just as
irrational.

The 9kW Potterton Suprima 30HE plain heating boiler is 300+VAT
Blimey that's not much more than they charge for the replacement PCB.
You add £5 for each 3kW added up to 18kW.
I suspect that it really is the same boiler with a slightly different
jet and maybe burner in each model.

HTH

thanks ED I'll check them out

Don't buy the Suprima. One of the worst dogs in the world.

In message , news
writes
Tony Bryer wrote:
In article , News wrote:
I don't care. if I get any comebacks I'll point the buyers to
trading standards and the SOG acts durability / fit for purpose
section.

The buyers will have no comeback surely: they didn't buy the boiler.

crikey, this is tiring.

what I don't want is a buyer to try it on alleging that I knew that the boiler
was fubar at the point of sale.

Well TBH that'd their hard luck isn't it. Unless you said it was ok and
it wasn't then that is their problem for not checking it out. You buy a
house 'as is'

however.....

I'll fit a new boiler,

That's what I would probably do in this situation.

--
Chris French

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:36:40 GMT, "news" wrote:

not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

B&Q are generally the cheapest as they have huge purchasing power (Far
more than a plumbers merchant). It's all down to economies of scale.

(Check out ebay. Companies are buying boilers from B&Q and re-selling
on ebay for profit!)

Look out for European manufactured boilers. The strength of the pound
makes them exceptional value for money and they are generally well
engineered.

sponix

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:12:40 GMT, "news" wrote:

so, cheapest condensing combi boiler ?

The Biasi one in B&Q.

sponix

"s--p--o--n--i--x" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:36:40 GMT, "news" wrote:

not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

B&Q are generally the cheapest as they have huge purchasing power (Far
more than a plumbers merchant). It's all down to economies of scale.

(Check out ebay. Companies are buying boilers from B&Q and re-selling
on ebay for profit!)

Look out for European manufactured boilers. The strength of the pound
makes them exceptional value for money and they are generally well
engineered.

BIASI are v good cheap and reliable boiler.

s--p--o--n--i--x wrote:
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:36:40 GMT, "news" wrote:

not bothered about anything except price.

must be the cheapest available in the UK

biasi ? ravenheat ? can B&Qs prices be beaten ?

B&Q are generally the cheapest as they have huge purchasing power (Far
more than a plumbers merchant). It's all down to economies of scale.

is what brother in law recons. just wondered if there was anywhere else cheaper.

worth a try.

In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Look out for European manufactured boilers. The strength of the pound
makes them exceptional value for money and they are generally well
engineered.

BIASI are v good cheap and reliable boiler.

Couldn't you just have said this at the start of the thread?

--
*Is there another word for synonym?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile
flatulence wrote in message ...
In article ws.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Look out for European manufactured boilers. The strength of the pound
makes them exceptional value for money and they are generally well
engineered.

BIASI are v good cheap and reliable boiler.

Couldn't you

Only in non-condensing models.

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:46:00 GMT, "news" wrote:


is what brother in law recons. just wondered if there was anywhere else cheaper.

worth a try.

I haven't seen anywhere...howvere, I'd give "Mr Central Heating" a
call and see what they can offer as they sometimes have good deals:

www.mrcentralheating.com

sponix

s--p--o--n--i--x wrote:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:46:00 GMT, "news" wrote:


is what brother in law recons. just wondered if there was anywhere
else cheaper.

worth a try.

I haven't seen anywhere...howvere, I'd give "Mr Central Heating" a
call and see what they can offer as they sometimes have good deals:

www.mrcentralheating.com

sponix

thanks for that. I'll email them last as they do seem cheap. ya never know.

Doctor Drivel wrote:

Don't buy the Suprima. One of the worst dogs in the world.

So what?

Read the requirements...


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news wrote:

thanks for that. I'll email them last as they do seem cheap. ya never know.

Also don't underestimate the independant local suppliers. I found the
local shop in our village was actually about 15% cheaper than the best
deal I could find online at the time I was ordering my boiler.


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"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:

Don't buy the Suprima. One of the worst dogs in the world.

So what?

You obviously encourage dogs, which is appalling.

John Rumm wrote:
news wrote:

thanks for that. I'll email them last as they do seem cheap. ya
never know.

Also don't underestimate the independant local suppliers. I found the
local shop in our village was actually about 15% cheaper than the best
deal I could find online at the time I was ordering my boiler.

I've done the two traditionally cheapest locals. nowhere near B&Qs price.
they know me and my brother in law, they just can't price match to that extent