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Angled bricks/ 'Squints'



 
 
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Old August 18th 03, 02:26 PM
Benda Menda
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Default Angled bricks/ 'Squints'

Anyone out there had any experiences of these?
I require a few for a conservatory I'm building (135' corners), I'm not
having much success on the small numbers involved. I have been quoted 60
for 20 off bricks (my own) to be 'cut and bonded', could this be a DIY job?
What is used for the bonding of bricks?, some epoxy or the like?
Ben da Menda


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Old August 18th 03, 08:23 PM
Michael McNeil
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Default Angled bricks/ 'Squints'

"Benda Menda" wrote in message ...
Anyone out there had any experiences of these?
I require a few for a conservatory I'm building (135' corners), I'm not
having much success on the small numbers involved. I have been quoted 60
for 20 off bricks (my own) to be 'cut and bonded', could this be a DIY job?
What is used for the bonding of bricks?, some epoxy or the like?



I'm not sure what the term you are referring to is. Brick bonding is a
matter of working out the gaps in between to ensure equal overlaps
with the next courses. The joints have to run perpendicular. The
cutting probably involves not only angling but cutting to the right
length for bonding.

You can buy a small grinder and a diamond blade to do the job yourself
for about #30. No guarrantee on the workmanship though but you get an
angle grinder with a diamond blade free with every conservatory.

Now tell me where my quid sign has gone and went!
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Old August 18th 03, 10:24 PM
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Default Angled bricks/ 'Squints'

Benda Menda wrote in message
...
Anyone out there had any experiences of these?
I require a few for a conservatory I'm building (135' corners), I'm not
having much success on the small numbers involved. I have been quoted 60
for 20 off bricks (my own) to be 'cut and bonded', could this be a DIY

job?
What is used for the bonding of bricks?, some epoxy or the like?
Ben da Menda

Hi,

We have these on our conservatory which has a "5-sided" end rather than
3-sided so the angle is slightly strange rather than the "normal" 135
degrees.

The conservatory co got a quantity of the standard bricks "cut and bonded".
The result was very satisfactory and has stood up well for a good few years
now. It hasn't all "fallen apart at the corners" fortunately. I've no idea
what they used to glue the cut bricks together - maybe it's like those
stories about "PVA wood glue is stronger than the wood itself".

Good luck.

Simon.


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Old August 19th 03, 01:18 PM
dg
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Default Angled bricks/ 'Squints'

I think these are generaly available pre made from good merchants, and
the price you have is about right.

Some alternatives a

1. Birdsmouth the corner, so that the normal bricks are turned, on
plan, to form the angle and the wall bond is maintained.

2. Cut all the bricks (with a mechanical saw) to the 135 angle and
have a straight joint up the corner. Use tie wires in the bed joint
every 3 course, to hold the two walls together

3. Cut the bricks as above and glue them together with epoxy cement.
You need to make sure the cuts and setting angles are true, otherwise
you have problems plumbing the face and the corner looks a mess.

Unless you go for the birdsmouth option, the time, cost, dust and
buggeration of DIY cuts and mixing and setting epoxy resin, means that
60 is a worthwhile spend. It is a small percentage of the whole cost
of the consevatory.

dg


"Benda Menda" wrote in message ...
Anyone out there had any experiences of these?
I require a few for a conservatory I'm building (135' corners), I'm not
having much success on the small numbers involved. I have been quoted 60
for 20 off bricks (my own) to be 'cut and bonded', could this be a DIY job?
What is used for the bonding of bricks?, some epoxy or the like?
Ben da Menda

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Old August 21st 03, 09:42 PM
Rick Hughes
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"Simon Stroud" wrote in message
...
Benda Menda wrote in message
...
Anyone out there had any experiences of these?
I require a few for a conservatory I'm building (135' corners), I'm not
having much success on the small numbers involved. I have been quoted

60
for 20 off bricks (my own) to be 'cut and bonded', could this be a DIY

job?
What is used for the bonding of bricks?, some epoxy or the like?
Ben da Menda

Hi,

We have these on our conservatory which has a "5-sided" end rather than
3-sided so the angle is slightly strange rather than the "normal" 135
degrees.

The conservatory co got a quantity of the standard bricks "cut and

bonded".
The result was very satisfactory and has stood up well for a good few

years
now. It hasn't all "fallen apart at the corners" fortunately. I've no idea
what they used to glue the cut bricks together - maybe it's like those
stories about "PVA wood glue is stronger than the wood itself".

#

known in the trade as 'cut & stucks' you can get them made for reasonably
cheaply.

Any local brick merchants will be able to put you in touch with local cut&
stuck shop.


I had a load of specials for a bay window - but needed a few other internal
angles to complete the job, found a company that does the cut& stuck ...
they charge 3 each plus you supply the bricks.

I watched them being made - dry cut with diamond saw, then a hot melt glue
is applied, which set pretty quick - but then it is cured in an oven to get
full strength.

They sprinkle dust from the saw over the joint which sticks to the glue
making a very next joint.

They can do them while you wait.

Rick


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Old August 22nd 03, 09:43 AM
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"Rick Hughes" wrote in message ...

I had a load of specials for a bay window - but needed a few other internal
angles to complete the job, found a company that does the cut& stuck ...
they charge 3 each plus you supply the bricks.

I watched them being made - dry cut with diamond saw, then a hot melt glue
is applied, which set pretty quick - but then it is cured in an oven to get
full strength.

They sprinkle dust from the saw over the joint which sticks to the glue
making a very neat joint.

They can do them while you wait.


Well I'm blowed
I never knowed.

Whereabouts is this sophisticated service rendered?
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Old August 22nd 03, 01:50 PM
Rick Hughes
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"Michael McNeil" wrote in message

They can do them while you wait.


Well I'm blowed
I never knowed.

Whereabouts is this sophisticated service rendered?



I had them done in Cwmbran .... but there are loads of Brick Specials
Services places across the UK ... if you contact your local Brick Merchants
they will be able to point you to one (or the manufacturer of the bricks)

This is nothing new - used for years.


They are still not as good as original specials - but certainly vastly
better than a brickie and a bolster on site.
Once they are in place give a couple of months and they are
indistinguishable from clay formed specials.

Rick





 




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