Hello,

I need to build a block wall about 4 feet high as a boundary wall between my
house and my neighbours'.
The present fence is on the verge of collapse and he doesn't like wood so...

My problem is that I am worried about how I tie 4" medium density blocks
into brickwork, worse, preexisting brickwork. How do you tie a block wall
into a two-brick
pier? I see these galvanised mesh ties exist but surely they're only good
for new work. Is it practical to rake out old mortar and shove one end of a
mesh tie into prexisting
brickwork?

I'm thinking there may be something I can screw into the existing pier, then
cement into the block work, but the only things I've seen look like cavity
wall ties.

Any ideas?

Andy.

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:05:27 +0100, "Andy" wrote:

| Hello,
|
| I need to build a block wall about 4 feet high as a boundary wall between my
| house and my neighbours'.
| The present fence is on the verge of collapse and he doesn't like wood so...

You may put whatever you like on *your* side of the boundary.


--
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Animal rights terrorists and activists kill innocent patients.

"Andy" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I need to build a block wall about 4 feet high as a boundary wall between
my
house and my neighbours'.
The present fence is on the verge of collapse and he doesn't like wood
so...

My problem is that I am worried about how I tie 4" medium density blocks
into brickwork, worse, preexisting brickwork. How do you tie a block wall
into a two-brick
pier? I see these galvanised mesh ties exist but surely they're only good
for new work. Is it practical to rake out old mortar and shove one end of
a
mesh tie into prexisting
brickwork?

I'm thinking there may be something I can screw into the existing pier,
then
cement into the block work, but the only things I've seen look like cavity
wall ties.

Any ideas?

Andy.
Try door cramps brackets

Andy wrote:

My problem is that I am worried about how I tie 4" medium density blocks
into brickwork, worse, preexisting brickwork. How do you tie a block wall
into a two-brick
pier? I see these galvanised mesh ties exist but surely they're only good
for new work. Is it practical to rake out old mortar and shove one end of a
mesh tie into prexisting
brickwork?

I'm thinking there may be something I can screw into the existing pier, then
cement into the block work, but the only things I've seen look like cavity
wall ties.

You need these babies: http://tinyurl.com/8zag2 (or
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=101892&ts=73501&id=31633)

David

"Lobster" wrote in message
...
Andy wrote:

My problem is that I am worried about how I tie 4" medium density blocks
into brickwork, worse, preexisting brickwork. How do you tie a block wall
into a two-brick
pier? I see these galvanised mesh ties exist but surely they're only good
for new work. Is it practical to rake out old mortar and shove one end of
a mesh tie into prexisting
brickwork?

I'm thinking there may be something I can screw into the existing pier,
then cement into the block work, but the only things I've seen look like
cavity wall ties.

You need these babies: http://tinyurl.com/8zag2 (or
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=101892&ts=73501&id=31633)

David

Really? They don't look very heavy-duty. I thought that with a wall and all,
something chunkier might be in order. Still, I expect I'll have to use one
per course so that give me five ties at the interface at least.
I'll also have a look at the door cramp thingy suggestion. I know I
can build whatever I like on my side but I don't actually object to the idea
of a wall, and having the wall on the boundary centreline gives me a little
more space to open my car door!

Cheers,

Andy.

"Andy" wrote in message
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"Lobster" wrote in message
...
Andy wrote:

snip

I'm thinking there may be something I can screw into the existing pier,
then cement into the block work, but the only things I've seen look
like
cavity wall ties.

You need these babies: http://tinyurl.com/8zag2 (or

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=101892&ts=73501&id=31633)

David

Really? They don't look very heavy-duty. I thought that with a wall and
all,
something chunkier might be in order. Still, I expect I'll have to use one
per course so that give me five ties at the interface at least.

snip

Andy.

This might be a bit more suitable:
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...91448&id=41311
though I've not ordered one myself.

I know you can get similar items from Wickes (cost £19.99 - designed to tie
brick walls together) which would allow
you to tie a wall section between a pair of piers (the Wickes pack includes
two sections of fixing). So depending on how many piers you have it's going
to be expensive. Presumably if your neighbour is objecting to wood, I
suppose they're paying half?

Personally I'd think that bare blocks between brick piers would look far
uglier than wood.

Paul

Andy wrote:
"Lobster" wrote in message
...

Andy wrote:


My problem is that I am worried about how I tie 4" medium density blocks
into brickwork, worse, preexisting brickwork. How do you tie a block wall
into a two-brick
pier? I see these galvanised mesh ties exist but surely they're only good
for new work. Is it practical to rake out old mortar and shove one end of
a mesh tie into prexisting
brickwork?

I'm thinking there may be something I can screw into the existing pier,
then cement into the block work, but the only things I've seen look like
cavity wall ties.

You need these babies: http://tinyurl.com/8zag2 (or
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=101892&ts=73501&id=31633)


Really? They don't look very heavy-duty. I thought that with a wall and all,
something chunkier might be in order. Still, I expect I'll have to use one
per course so that give me five ties at the interface at least.

They'll work fine; that's specifically what they're for.

If the original wall is in really naff condition, it might be worth
raking out the old mortar around the region where it will be adjoining
your new wall, and repointing, so you have firm anchoring area for the
ties (do that at least a few days beforehand, so it will be rock solid
by the time you start drilling.)

David

I need to build a block wall about 4 feet high as a boundary wall
between my house and my neighbours'.
The present fence is on the verge of collapse and he doesn't like wood
so...

My problem is that I am worried about how I tie 4" medium density
blocks into brickwork, worse, preexisting brickwork. How do you tie a
block wall into a two-brick
pier? I see these galvanised mesh ties exist but surely they're only
good for new work. Is it practical to rake out old mortar and shove
one end of a mesh tie into prexisting
brickwork?

I'm thinking there may be something I can screw into the existing
pier, then cement into the block work, but the only things I've seen
look like cavity wall ties.

Any ideas?


try "ferfix", not sure about the spelling, I've used it twice so far and
it works a treat

In article ws.net,
In2minds wrote:
try "ferfix", not sure about the spelling, I've used it twice so far and
it works a treat

Furfix

http://www.strongtie.co.uk/product_s...ategory_id=139

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"Paul Andrews" wrote in message
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"Andy" wrote in message
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"Lobster" wrote in message
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Andy wrote:

snip

I'm thinking there may be something I can screw into the existing
pier,
then cement into the block work, but the only things I've seen look
like
cavity wall ties.

You need these babies: http://tinyurl.com/8zag2 (or

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=101892&ts=73501&id=31633)

David

Really? They don't look very heavy-duty. I thought that with a wall and
all,
something chunkier might be in order. Still, I expect I'll have to use
one
per course so that give me five ties at the interface at least.

snip

Andy.

This might be a bit more suitable:
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...91448&id=41311
though I've not ordered one myself.

I know you can get similar items from Wickes (cost £19.99 - designed to
tie
brick walls together) which would allow
you to tie a wall section between a pair of piers (the Wickes pack
includes
two sections of fixing). So depending on how many piers you have it's
going
to be expensive. Presumably if your neighbour is objecting to wood, I
suppose they're paying half?

Personally I'd think that bare blocks between brick piers would look far
uglier than wood.

Paul

The blocks will not be left bare, they will be rendered, and either
pebbledashed or
roughcast, then probably painted white. The top will have slate coping
stones or will be
rounded over. The existing boundary walls are pebbledashed
so I am taking my cue from them. I too cannot stand bare blockwork.

In a perfect world I would put a wooden fence up, but there have been some
cross flooding
issues between my drive and my neighbour's, during torrential downpours. It
only happens once
in a blue moon, and I've taken what steps I can to alleviate the flooding,
but in the worst case
the sewers will overload and backfeed my gully, which then fountains water
and more
undesireable stuff into my drive. Essentially, I have no escape route for
the water then and it
crosses over to my neighbour's drive ( his gully would be fountaining ****
'n stuff too, but he
seems to think that having to cope with a bit of overspill from mine is
beneath his dignity ).
Hence the desire for a wall. Also he is an old git who goes for
low-maintenance every time,
so his house is festooned with upvc and pebbledash, so he doesn't like
timber, 'cause he
might have to paint it every five years!

I am stoical enough to take all this on the chin and build a wall. If I
don't, he might, and I can
guarantee he'll build an ugly block wall, and I'll get the non-fair face.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestions and links everyone, I quite like the
plates that bolt to
an existing wall, then you clip tabs to the plates as needed. I shall
investigate all options,

Andy.

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:05:27 +0100, "Andy"
wrote:

Hello,

I need to build a block wall about 4 feet high as a boundary wall between my
house and my neighbours'.
The present fence is on the verge of collapse and he doesn't like wood so...

My problem is that I am worried about how I tie 4" medium density blocks
into brickwork, worse, preexisting brickwork. How do you tie a block wall
into a two-brick
pier? I see these galvanised mesh ties exist but surely they're only good
for new work. Is it practical to rake out old mortar and shove one end of a
mesh tie into prexisting
brickwork?

I'm thinking there may be something I can screw into the existing pier, then
cement into the block work, but the only things I've seen look like cavity
wall ties.

Any ideas?

Andy.


Builders merchant will have some ties, you drill and screw in, leaving
a hook poking out, which goes into the mortar bed of the new work.

Rick