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Water flow driven water pump
Title says it all. I am looking for a submersible water pump, a few
litres an hour would do, driven by propeller/turbine working off the flow in the stream to pump water up a few feet. Or of course any relevant components of this idea would be useful. Many thanks for your thoughts. Water wheel, unless on a raft, is no use as water lever varies about 5000% of minimum 100mm or so. -- Roger Hayter |
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"Roger Hayter" wrote in message ... Title says it all. I am looking for a submersible water pump, a few litres an hour would do, driven by propeller/turbine working off the flow in the stream to pump water up a few feet. Or of course any relevant components of this idea would be useful. Many thanks for your thoughts. Water wheel, unless on a raft, is no use as water lever varies about 5000% of minimum 100mm or so. Roger Hayter Is it possible to build a sluice for an over the top water wheel? The stream is diverted in to the sluice so it runs over the top of a bucket wheel. This gives loads of weight to the wheel, so it can be better used to operate quite a powerful pump. |
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In message , Roger Hayter
writes Title says it all. I am looking for a submersible water pump, a few litres an hour would do, driven by propeller/turbine working off the flow in the stream to pump water up a few feet. Or of course any relevant components of this idea would be useful. Many thanks for your thoughts. Water wheel, unless on a raft, is no use as water lever varies about 5000% of minimum 100mm or so. Sir might want to look at this old, but effective concept http://journeytoforever.org/at_waterpump.html -- geoff |
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"Roger Hayter" wrote in message ... Title says it all. I am looking for a submersible water pump, a few litres an hour would do, driven by propeller/turbine working off the flow in the stream to pump water up a few feet. Or of course any relevant components of this idea would be useful. Many thanks for your thoughts. Water wheel, unless on a raft, is no use as water lever varies about 5000% of minimum 100mm or so. http://journeytoforever.org/at_waterpump.html |
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"dennis@home" writes "Roger Hayter" wrote in message ... Title says it all. I am looking for a submersible water pump, a few litres an hour would do, driven by propeller/turbine working off the flow in the stream to pump water up a few feet. Or of course any relevant components of this idea would be useful. Many thanks for your thoughts. Water wheel, unless on a raft, is no use as water lever varies about 5000% of minimum 100mm or so. http://journeytoforever.org/at_waterpump.html Ha ! beat you by just over a minute -- geoff |
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Is it possible to build a sluice for an over the top water wheel? The
stream is diverted in to the sluice so it runs over the top of a bucket wheel. This gives loads of weight to the wheel, so it can be better used to operate quite a powerful pump. Ram pump might be a better solution, though it depends upon flow. http://tinyurl.com/94cqp |
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Roger Hayter wrote:
Title says it all. I am looking for a submersible water pump, a few litres an hour would do, driven by propeller/turbine working off the flow in the stream to pump water up a few feet. Or of course any relevant components of this idea would be useful. Many thanks for your thoughts. Water wheel, unless on a raft, is no use as water lever varies about 5000% of minimum 100mm or so. Hydraulic ram? Used in TPLACs for water supply. Owain |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message , Roger Hayter writes Title says it all. I am looking for a submersible water pump, a few litres an hour would do, driven by propeller/turbine working off the flow in the stream to pump water up a few feet. Or of course any relevant components of this idea would be useful. Many thanks for your thoughts. Water wheel, unless on a raft, is no use as water lever varies about 5000% of minimum 100mm or so. Sir might want to look at this old, but effective concept http://journeytoforever.org/at_waterpump.html Sir may also like to get some ear defenders if he uses one... |
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In message , PC Paul
writes "raden" wrote in message ... In message , Roger Hayter writes Title says it all. I am looking for a submersible water pump, a few litres an hour would do, driven by propeller/turbine working off the flow in the stream to pump water up a few feet. Or of course any relevant components of this idea would be useful. Many thanks for your thoughts. Water wheel, unless on a raft, is no use as water lever varies about 5000% of minimum 100mm or so. Sir might want to look at this old, but effective concept http://journeytoforever.org/at_waterpump.html Sir may also like to get some ear defenders if he uses one... But if it's submerged in a stream at the bottom of the garden, who cares ? -- geoff |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message , PC Paul writes "raden" wrote in message ... In message , Roger Hayter writes Title says it all. I am looking for a submersible water pump, a few litres an hour would do, driven by propeller/turbine working off the flow in the stream to pump water up a few feet. Or of course any relevant components of this idea would be useful. Many thanks for your thoughts. Water wheel, unless on a raft, is no use as water lever varies about 5000% of minimum 100mm or so. Sir might want to look at this old, but effective concept http://journeytoforever.org/at_waterpump.html Sir may also like to get some ear defenders if he uses one... But if it's submerged in a stream at the bottom of the garden, who cares? Maxie, how can you be so cruel. What about the frogs? |
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In message , raden
writes In message , PC Paul writes "raden" wrote in message ... In message , Roger Hayter writes Title says it all. I am looking for a submersible water pump, a few litres an hour would do, driven by propeller/turbine working off the flow in the stream to pump water up a few feet. Or of course any relevant components of this idea would be useful. Many thanks for your thoughts. Water wheel, unless on a raft, is no use as water lever varies about 5000% of minimum 100mm or so. Sir might want to look at this old, but effective concept http://journeytoforever.org/at_waterpump.html Sir may also like to get some ear defenders if he uses one... But if it's submerged in a stream at the bottom of the garden, who cares ? Lots of food for thought there, many thanks to everyone who replied. What I want is a small, unobtrusive installation that just trickle feeds a flower bed on top of a retaining wall, so I can grow water's edge plants on top of it. I will report back when I implement a solution. -- Roger Hayter |
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"raden" wrote in message
... In message , PC Paul writes "raden" wrote in message ... In message , Roger Hayter writes Title says it all. I am looking for a submersible water pump, a few litres an hour would do, driven by propeller/turbine working off the flow in the stream to pump water up a few feet. Or of course any relevant components of this idea would be useful. Many thanks for your thoughts. Water wheel, unless on a raft, is no use as water lever varies about 5000% of minimum 100mm or so. Sir might want to look at this old, but effective concept http://journeytoforever.org/at_waterpump.html Sir may also like to get some ear defenders if he uses one... But if it's submerged in a stream at the bottom of the garden, who cares ? True, just that a perpetual water-torturey tap-tap-tap-tap is not the sort of thing you want to find out about *after* installing it... |
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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 22:36:31 GMT, "PC Paul" wrote:
"raden" wrote in message ... In message , PC Paul writes "raden" wrote in message ... In message , Roger Hayter writes Title says it all. I am looking for a submersible water pump, a few litres an hour would do, driven by propeller/turbine working off the flow in the stream to pump water up a few feet. Or of course any relevant components of this idea would be useful. Many thanks for your thoughts. Water wheel, unless on a raft, is no use as water lever varies about 5000% of minimum 100mm or so. Sir might want to look at this old, but effective concept http://journeytoforever.org/at_waterpump.html Sir may also like to get some ear defenders if he uses one... But if it's submerged in a stream at the bottom of the garden, who cares ? True, just that a perpetual water-torturey tap-tap-tap-tap is not the sort of thing you want to find out about *after* installing it... True. Although these things are quite small, the noise they make is quite noticeable, if satisfying (that it's still pumping!). The nomally quite large air vessel acts as a good loudspeaker. We have one of these ram pumps operating in a water museum with which I'm involved. The pump must be many decades old, and the rubber diaphragms needed replacement. Although we could've used almost any old insertion rubber to fabricate new diaphragms, I tried to contact the original makers, and had no problem whatsoever in getting original replacements, which promptly arrived in a linen bag, which had a label attached with a space for the name of the railway station to which the spares should be delivered! I can't remember the manufacturer at the moment; I fancy he was in Gloucestershire, but can you imagine getting this sort of service from a modern pump-maker in, say 50 years time? -- Frank Erskine Sunderland |
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Frank Erskine wrote:
We have one of these ram pumps operating in a water museum with which I'm involved. The pump must be many decades old, and the rubber diaphragms needed replacement. Although we could've used almost any old insertion rubber to fabricate new diaphragms, I tried to contact the original makers, and had no problem whatsoever in getting original replacements, which promptly arrived in a linen bag, which had a label attached with a space for the name of the railway station to which the spares should be delivered! Nice :-) I can't remember the manufacturer at the moment; I fancy he was in Gloucestershire, One manufacturer of hydraulic rams is Green and Carter http://www.greenandcarter.com/ but they're in Somerset, not Glos. but can you imagine getting this sort of service from a modern pump-maker in, say 50 years time? I assume that question was rhetorical. -- Andy |
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On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:25:21 +0100, Andy Wade
wrote: Frank Erskine wrote: We have one of these ram pumps operating in a water museum with which I'm involved. snip One manufacturer of hydraulic rams is Green and Carter http://www.greenandcarter.com/ but they're in Somerset, not Glos. You're right - it was Green & Carter. :-) -- Frank Erskine Sunderland |
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One manufacturer of hydraulic rams is Green and Carter
http://www.greenandcarter.com/ but they're in Somerset, not Glos. Presumably a little undershot wheel plus small water screw would be quieter. NT |
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oups.com... One manufacturer of hydraulic rams is Green and Carter http://www.greenandcarter.com/ but they're in Somerset, not Glos. Presumably a little undershot wheel plus small water screw would be quieter. And a *lot* more decorative if done well... |
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