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Installing new boiler
Just a warning and a pre-emptive thank you to the group, as I have taken it
upon myself to install a combi condenser boiler myself. Consequently I will be bombarding this group with a whole host of questions, most of them probably very stupid. I've bought the boiler using an Energy Efficient Voucher, price exc vat £610 for and Ideal Isar 30HE, with standard flue. Today I cleaned the old system with x400 sludge remover. and replaced two old non-convector single fin radiators with double convectors (though haven't plumbeed them in yet for obvious reasons. I will be flusing all the radiators out with a hose once the x400 has been worked through the system. Jon |
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"jon" writes: I've bought the boiler using an Energy Efficient Voucher How does one go about doing that, and is it a significant saving, or do you get tied to buying it from somewhere expensive to start with? -- Andrew Gabriel |
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"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message .. . In article , "jon" writes: I've bought the boiler using an Energy Efficient Voucher How does one go about doing that, and is it a significant saving, or do you get tied to buying it from somewhere expensive to start with? http://www.uselessenergy.org.uk/boilers_prices.asp |
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"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message .. . In article , "jon" writes: I've bought the boiler using an Energy Efficient Voucher How does one go about doing that, and is it a significant saving, or do you get tied to buying it from somewhere expensive to start with? -- Andrew Gabriel See he http://www.uselessenergy.org.uk/default.asp Give them a ring and ask for an application pack. Very friendly, and efficient. Jon |
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"jon" wrote in message ... Just a warning and a pre-emptive thank you to the group, as I have taken it upon myself to install a combi condenser boiler myself. Consequently I will be bombarding this group with a whole host of questions, most of them probably very stupid. I've bought the boiler using an Energy Efficient Voucher, price exc vat £610 for and Ideal Isar 30HE, with standard flue. Today I cleaned the old system with x400 sludge remover. and replaced two old non-convector single fin radiators with double convectors (though haven't plumbeed them in yet for obvious reasons. I will be flusing all the radiators out with a hose once the x400 has been worked through the system. - Make sure you put a strainer on the heating return to the boiler, you may want to put a full bore valve either side to clean the filter. This is very important. - Make sure you fully flush the existing system. - Have the cold pipe supplying the combi run back to the stop-cock. Have "no" cold water tees off this pipe. Take only one tee off it, just before the combi, the cold feed to the shower mixer. |
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"Doctor Evil" wrote in message ... "jon" wrote in message ... Just a warning and a pre-emptive thank you to the group, as I have taken it upon myself to install a combi condenser boiler myself. Consequently I will be bombarding this group with a whole host of questions, most of them probably very stupid. I've bought the boiler using an Energy Efficient Voucher, price exc vat £610 for and Ideal Isar 30HE, with standard flue. Today I cleaned the old system with x400 sludge remover. and replaced two old non-convector single fin radiators with double convectors (though haven't plumbeed them in yet for obvious reasons. I will be flusing all the radiators out with a hose once the x400 has been worked through the system. - Make sure you put a strainer on the heating return to the boiler, you may want to put a full bore valve either side to clean the filter. This is very important. Where can I get this strainer-thing. Just had a quick gander on screwfix and couldn't find anything. Cheers Jon - |
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"jon" wrote in message ... "Doctor Evil" wrote in message ... "jon" wrote in message ... Just a warning and a pre-emptive thank you to the group, as I have taken it upon myself to install a combi condenser boiler myself. Consequently I will be bombarding this group with a whole host of questions, most of them probably very stupid. I've bought the boiler using an Energy Efficient Voucher, price exc vat £610 for and Ideal Isar 30HE, with standard flue. Today I cleaned the old system with x400 sludge remover. and replaced two old non-convector single fin radiators with double convectors (though haven't plumbeed them in yet for obvious reasons. I will be flusing all the radiators out with a hose once the x400 has been worked through the system. - Make sure you put a strainer on the heating return to the boiler, you may want to put a full bore valve either side to clean the filter. This is very important. Where can I get this strainer-thing. Just had a quick gander on screwfix and couldn't find anything. Part No. 7533 http://www.bes.ltd.uk/ Many boiler manufacturers state that one must be fitted on new and old installations. |
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"jon" wrote in message ... "Doctor Evil" wrote in message ... "jon" wrote in message ... Just a warning and a pre-emptive thank you to the group, as I have taken it upon myself to install a combi condenser boiler myself. Consequently I will be bombarding this group with a whole host of questions, most of them probably very stupid. I've bought the boiler using an Energy Efficient Voucher, price exc vat £610 for and Ideal Isar 30HE, with standard flue. Today I cleaned the old system with x400 sludge remover. and replaced two old non-convector single fin radiators with double convectors (though haven't plumbeed them in yet for obvious reasons. I will be flusing all the radiators out with a hose once the x400 has been worked through the system. - Make sure you put a strainer on the heating return to the boiler, you may want to put a full bore valve either side to clean the filter. This is very important. Where can I get this strainer-thing. Just had a quick gander on screwfix and couldn't find anything. My Vaillant combi came supplied with one - just like a tea strainer, it fits in the pipe/compression fitting where it connects to the combi. If you already have the combi have a poke through the bits that come wth it. Andy. |
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Doctor Evil wrote:
"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message .. . In article , "jon" writes: I've bought the boiler using an Energy Efficient Voucher How does one go about doing that, and is it a significant saving, or do you get tied to buying it from somewhere expensive to start with? http://www.uselessenergy.org.uk/boilers_prices.asp *Prices exclude VAT but include Standard Flue, Fixing Jig, and LPG conversion kit where appropriate. Prices correct 20/2/04. All boilers are SEDBUK rated A, and include a 2 year warranty. £50 cashback per boiler is no longer available, but we hope to re-institute this sometime in the next few months. More complete range of boilers (including LPG and oil) available, please phone for details. |
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:04:06 +0100, andrewpreece wrote:
"jon" wrote in message ... "Doctor Evil" wrote in message ... "jon" wrote in message ... Just a warning and a pre-emptive thank you to the group, as I have taken it upon myself to install a combi condenser boiler myself. Consequently I will be bombarding this group with a whole host of questions, most of them probably very stupid. I've bought the boiler using an Energy Efficient Voucher, price exc vat £610 for and Ideal Isar 30HE, with standard flue. Today I cleaned the old system with x400 sludge remover. and replaced two old non-convector single fin radiators with double convectors (though haven't plumbeed them in yet for obvious reasons. I will be flusing all the radiators out with a hose once the x400 has been worked through the system. - Make sure you put a strainer on the heating return to the boiler, you may want to put a full bore valve either side to clean the filter. This is very important. Where can I get this strainer-thing. Just had a quick gander on screwfix and couldn't find anything. My Vaillant combi came supplied with one - just like a tea strainer, it fits in the pipe/compression fitting where it connects to the combi. If you already have the combi have a poke through the bits that come wth it. Andy. The Ideal also comes with. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html |
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"Ed Sirett" wrote in message news On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:04:06 +0100, andrewpreece wrote: "jon" wrote in message ... "Doctor Evil" wrote in message ... "jon" wrote in message ... Just a warning and a pre-emptive thank you to the group, as I have taken it upon myself to install a combi condenser boiler myself. Consequently I will be bombarding this group with a whole host of questions, most of them probably very stupid. I've bought the boiler using an Energy Efficient Voucher, price exc vat £610 for and Ideal Isar 30HE, with standard flue. Today I cleaned the old system with x400 sludge remover. and replaced two old non-convector single fin radiators with double convectors (though haven't plumbeed them in yet for obvious reasons. I will be flusing all the radiators out with a hose once the x400 has been worked through the system. - Make sure you put a strainer on the heating return to the boiler, you may want to put a full bore valve either side to clean the filter. This is very important. Where can I get this strainer-thing. Just had a quick gander on screwfix and couldn't find anything. My Vaillant combi came supplied with one - just like a tea strainer, it fits in the pipe/compression fitting where it connects to the combi. If you already have the combi have a poke through the bits that come wth it. Andy. The Ideal also comes with. There is a filter/flow regiulator on the DHW inlet, but not on the CH return. Jon |
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"jon" wrote in message ... "Ed Sirett" wrote in message news On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:04:06 +0100, andrewpreece wrote: "jon" wrote in message ... "Doctor Evil" wrote in message ... "jon" wrote in message ... Just a warning and a pre-emptive thank you to the group, as I have taken it upon myself to install a combi condenser boiler myself. Consequently I will be bombarding this group with a whole host of questions, most of them probably very stupid. I've bought the boiler using an Energy Efficient Voucher, price exc vat £610 for and Ideal Isar 30HE, with standard flue. Today I cleaned the old system with x400 sludge remover. and replaced two old non-convector single fin radiators with double convectors (though haven't plumbeed them in yet for obvious reasons. I will be flusing all the radiators out with a hose once the x400 has been worked through the system. - Make sure you put a strainer on the heating return to the boiler, you may want to put a full bore valve either side to clean the filter. This is very important. Where can I get this strainer-thing. Just had a quick gander on screwfix and couldn't find anything. My Vaillant combi came supplied with one - just like a tea strainer, it fits in the pipe/compression fitting where it connects to the combi. If you already have the combi have a poke through the bits that come wth it. Andy. The Ideal also comes with. There is a filter/flow regiulator on the DHW inlet, but not on the CH return. Put a strainer on the CH return with a full bore valve either side. Then empty and clear this regularly over the first year or so. Putting in X400 doesn't clear everything. I prefer the stronger Fernox CH cleaner that does get rid of almost everything. Well worth it. Alpha boilers have an integral cyclone that catches all the debris and a trap to release the debris. This should be done on each service. |
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"Doctor Evil" wrote in message ... "jon" wrote in message ... "Ed Sirett" wrote in message news On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:04:06 +0100, andrewpreece wrote: "jon" wrote in message ... "Doctor Evil" wrote in message ... "jon" wrote in message ... Just a warning and a pre-emptive thank you to the group, as I have taken it upon myself to install a combi condenser boiler myself. Consequently I will be bombarding this group with a whole host of questions, most of them probably very stupid. I've bought the boiler using an Energy Efficient Voucher, price exc vat £610 for and Ideal Isar 30HE, with standard flue. Today I cleaned the old system with x400 sludge remover. and replaced two old non-convector single fin radiators with double convectors (though haven't plumbeed them in yet for obvious reasons. I will be flusing all the radiators out with a hose once the x400 has been worked through the system. - Make sure you put a strainer on the heating return to the boiler, you may want to put a full bore valve either side to clean the filter. This is very important. Where can I get this strainer-thing. Just had a quick gander on screwfix and couldn't find anything. My Vaillant combi came supplied with one - just like a tea strainer, it fits in the pipe/compression fitting where it connects to the combi. If you already have the combi have a poke through the bits that come wth it. Andy. The Ideal also comes with. There is a filter/flow regiulator on the DHW inlet, but not on the CH return. Put a strainer on the CH return with a full bore valve either side. Then empty and clear this regularly over the first year or so. Putting in X400 doesn't clear everything. I prefer the stronger Fernox CH cleaner that does get rid of almost everything. Well worth it. Alpha boilers have an integral cyclone that catches all the debris and a trap to release the debris. This should be done on each service. You've told me to do this on four other replies, so the brain washing finally paid of, as I've just ordered the stuff form BES. Jon |
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"jon" wrote in message ... "Doctor Evil" wrote in message ... "jon" wrote in message ... "Ed Sirett" wrote in message news On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:04:06 +0100, andrewpreece wrote: "jon" wrote in message ... "Doctor Evil" wrote in message ... "jon" wrote in message ... Just a warning and a pre-emptive thank you to the group, as I have taken it upon myself to install a combi condenser boiler myself. Consequently I will be bombarding this group with a whole host of questions, most of them probably very stupid. I've bought the boiler using an Energy Efficient Voucher, price exc vat £610 for and Ideal Isar 30HE, with standard flue. Today I cleaned the old system with x400 sludge remover. and replaced two old non-convector single fin radiators with double convectors (though haven't plumbeed them in yet for obvious reasons. I will be flusing all the radiators out with a hose once the x400 has been worked through the system. - Make sure you put a strainer on the heating return to the boiler, you may want to put a full bore valve either side to clean the filter. This is very important. Where can I get this strainer-thing. Just had a quick gander on screwfix and couldn't find anything. My Vaillant combi came supplied with one - just like a tea strainer, it fits in the pipe/compression fitting where it connects to the combi. If you already have the combi have a poke through the bits that come wth it. Andy. The Ideal also comes with. There is a filter/flow regiulator on the DHW inlet, but not on the CH return. Put a strainer on the CH return with a full bore valve either side. Then empty and clear this regularly over the first year or so. Putting in X400 doesn't clear everything. I prefer the stronger Fernox CH cleaner that does get rid of almost everything. Well worth it. Alpha boilers have an integral cyclone that catches all the debris and a trap to release the debris. This should be done on each service. You've told me to do this on four other replies, so the brain washing finally paid of, as I've just ordered the stuff form BES. Jon Good. |
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