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parts washer solvent?
I have a Graymills drum-mounted parts washer. Last time it needed solvent
I plunked down something like $75 for 10 gallons of Super Agitene at Grainger. NFW I'm going to do that again. It's time to clean it out and put in new solvent, and I'm looking for something I can homebrew or buy cheaply, ideally locally. I know that NAPA stores carry stuff called "Solvent" in one-gallon bottles but that stuff is brown and sort of nasty. That's what I used to use in my old 4-gallon import, and I didn't like it. I know I'm not the only one on this NG with a parts washer. What do you use? GWE |
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HF has solvent for their parts washers. Haven't tried it...you could
check the Everett store and sniff some- it's pink if I remember correctly JR Dweller in the cellar Grant Erwin wrote: I have a Graymills drum-mounted parts washer. Last time it needed solvent I plunked down something like $75 for 10 gallons of Super Agitene at Grainger. NFW I'm going to do that again. It's time to clean it out and put in new solvent, and I'm looking for something I can homebrew or buy cheaply, ideally locally. I know that NAPA stores carry stuff called "Solvent" in one-gallon bottles but that stuff is brown and sort of nasty. That's what I used to use in my old 4-gallon import, and I didn't like it. I know I'm not the only one on this NG with a parts washer. What do you use? GWE -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." |
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I use paint thinner. Cheap, and started using this after asking the
same question as you did of another group. "Grant Erwin" wrote in message ... | I have a Graymills drum-mounted parts washer. Last time it needed solvent | I plunked down something like $75 for 10 gallons of Super Agitene at Grainger. | NFW I'm going to do that again. It's time to clean it out and put in new | solvent, and I'm looking for something I can homebrew or buy cheaply, | ideally locally. I know that NAPA stores carry stuff called "Solvent" in | one-gallon bottles but that stuff is brown and sort of nasty. That's what | I used to use in my old 4-gallon import, and I didn't like it. | | I know I'm not the only one on this NG with a parts washer. What do you use? | | GWE |
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I've always used mineral spirits with some ATF mixed in. The ATF seemed to
make it a little easier on the hands, although these days I use gloves more often than not. Peter "Grant Erwin" wrote in message ... I have a Graymills drum-mounted parts washer. Last time it needed solvent I plunked down something like $75 for 10 gallons of Super Agitene at Grainger. NFW I'm going to do that again. It's time to clean it out and put in new solvent, and I'm looking for something I can homebrew or buy cheaply, ideally locally. I know that NAPA stores carry stuff called "Solvent" in one-gallon bottles but that stuff is brown and sort of nasty. That's what I used to use in my old 4-gallon import, and I didn't like it. I know I'm not the only one on this NG with a parts washer. What do you use? GWE |
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"DanG" wrote in message news:HE1Fd.16952$4h.6739@okepread03... Stoddard solvent is the official name. It smells, feels, and acts just like mineral spirits paint thinner to me. Yep! That's exactly what the "big boys" use, assuming they're using a hydrocarbon solvent. Anyone notice one thing about the name? Solvent? It truly is one, not a thin oil. If you let parts drip dry, they are free of oil, assuming your final wash is with oil free solvent. I *never* use anything aside from mineral spirits or Stoddard for cleaning. The use of kerosene or diesel makes no sense. Neither of them are intended to be used as a solvent, nor do they clean as well as solvents do. Further, can't stand the smell. Stoddard or mineral spirits are each much easier on the nose. In the end, if you have no way to dispose of them when they're fully contaminated, all you have to do is set them outdoors and allow the solvent to evaporate. Leaves you with very little sludge to dispose of. Does anyone need to say anything about *not* using gasoline? Great way to reduce the family gene pool.. Harold |
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Hello Grant, I just replaced the solvent in mine i get it at kovitch
William's in ballard 235(i think) cleaning solvent less than 20 dollars for five gallons the real stuff, smells just like the stuff you would see at a repair shop. Grant Erwin wrote: I have a Graymills drum-mounted parts washer. Last time it needed solvent I plunked down something like $75 for 10 gallons of Super Agitene at Grainger. NFW I'm going to do that again. It's time to clean it out and put in new solvent, and I'm looking for something I can homebrew or buy cheaply, ideally locally. I know that NAPA stores carry stuff called "Solvent" in one-gallon bottles but that stuff is brown and sort of nasty. That's what I used to use in my old 4-gallon import, and I didn't like it. I know I'm not the only one on this NG with a parts washer. What do you use? GWE |
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"DanG" wrote in message news:HE1Fd.16952$4h.6739@okepread03... Stoddard solvent is the official name. It smells, feels, and acts just like mineral spirits paint thinner to me. Pay a visit to your local petroleum distributor and you'll likely see a huge tank labeled mineral spirits. From this one tank they will fill drums labeled mineral spirits, paint thinner, solvent. "carl mciver" wrote in message ink.net... I use paint thinner. Cheap, and started using this after asking the same question as you did of another group. "Grant Erwin" wrote in message ... | I have a Graymills drum-mounted parts washer. Last time it needed solvent | I plunked down something like $75 for 10 gallons of Super Agitene at Grainger. | NFW I'm going to do that again. It's time to clean it out and put in new | solvent, and I'm looking for something I can homebrew or buy cheaply, | ideally locally. I know that NAPA stores carry stuff called "Solvent" in | one-gallon bottles but that stuff is brown and sort of nasty. That's what | I used to use in my old 4-gallon import, and I didn't like it. | | I know I'm not the only one on this NG with a parts washer. What do you use? | | GWE |
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We use a 80/20 mix of Simple Green Crystal (aqueous cleaner) and
Kool-Mist 77 (aqueous cutting fluid), diluted 8:1 with water. Cleans great, doesn't burn or smell, and when you're done with it, just dump it down the drain. Stoddard solvent is the official name. It smells, feels, and acts just like mineral spirits paint thinner to me. Pay a visit to your local petroleum distributor and you'll likely see a huge tank labeled mineral spirits. From this one tank they will fill drums labeled mineral spirits, paint thinner, solvent. "carl mciver" wrote in message hlink.net... I use paint thinner. Cheap, and started using this after asking the same question as you did of another group. "Grant Erwin" wrote in message ... | I have a Graymills drum-mounted parts washer. Last time it needed solvent | I plunked down something like $75 for 10 gallons of Super Agitene at Grainger. | NFW I'm going to do that again. It's time to clean it out and put in new | solvent, and I'm looking for something I can homebrew or buy cheaply, | ideally locally. I know that NAPA stores carry stuff called "Solvent" in | one-gallon bottles but that stuff is brown and sort of nasty. That's what | I used to use in my old 4-gallon import, and I didn't like it. | | I know I'm not the only one on this NG with a parts washer. What do you use? | | GWE |
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:10:32 -0800, "John Kunkel"
wrote: "DanG" wrote in message news:HE1Fd.16952$4h.6739@okepread03... Stoddard solvent is the official name. It smells, feels, and acts just like mineral spirits paint thinner to me. Pay a visit to your local petroleum distributor and you'll likely see a huge tank labeled mineral spirits. From this one tank they will fill drums labeled mineral spirits, paint thinner, solvent. No I won't....... http://www.christianpayne.com/rossoil/ Mark Rand RTFM |
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OK, don't laugh. I have tried: Kerosene, Stoddard, diesel,
Tri-cholosomething 111, and the best all-around is automatic dishwasher detergent. I get it from a food-supply house CHEAP! My tank is heated and pumped so I just come back later. "Grant Erwin" wrote in message ... I have a Graymills drum-mounted parts washer. Last time it needed solvent I plunked down something like $75 for 10 gallons of Super Agitene at Grainger. NFW I'm going to do that again. It's time to clean it out and put in new solvent, and I'm looking for something I can homebrew or buy cheaply, ideally locally. I know that NAPA stores carry stuff called "Solvent" in one-gallon bottles but that stuff is brown and sort of nasty. That's what I used to use in my old 4-gallon import, and I didn't like it. I know I'm not the only one on this NG with a parts washer. What do you use? GWE |
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I'm having trouble finding *anything* cheap. My target price is $1/gal.
Some of the paint supply places in my area want over $12 a gallon for paint thinner! On another note, I see that Grainger's "Super Agitene" brand is 97% aliphatic petroleum spirits, in other words paint thinner, in other words mineral spirits, in other words Stoddard solvent. By the way, I have *never* seen "Stoddard solvent" for sale. I'm sure I could find it online. I heard "it's stocked up in Canada" so one time when I was up there I tried a hardware store and a paint store. Nothing but blank looks. Anyone actually know of a real source for paint thinner/mineral spirits in the Seattle/Eastside area that's cheap? I don't need another $15 price on 2.5 gallons, thanks. Grant Tom Gardner wrote: OK, don't laugh. I have tried: Kerosene, Stoddard, diesel, Tri-cholosomething 111, and the best all-around is automatic dishwasher detergent. I get it from a food-supply house CHEAP! My tank is heated and pumped so I just come back later. "Grant Erwin" wrote in message ... I have a Graymills drum-mounted parts washer. Last time it needed solvent I plunked down something like $75 for 10 gallons of Super Agitene at Grainger. NFW I'm going to do that again. It's time to clean it out and put in new solvent, and I'm looking for something I can homebrew or buy cheaply, ideally locally. I know that NAPA stores carry stuff called "Solvent" in one-gallon bottles but that stuff is brown and sort of nasty. That's what I used to use in my old 4-gallon import, and I didn't like it. I know I'm not the only one on this NG with a parts washer. What do you use? GWE |
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I dont know how your gonna find anything petroleum based for $1 gal,
considering where the current prices are for all petroleum distilates i.e. gasoline, diesel, heating oil, kero. An interesting thought, Bio diesel has some extreme solvent properties. So much so that it can cause pump seals to swell. Because of this it's blended at 20% B20 with diesel or heating oil depending on the purpose. Now if one was to use B100 (100% Bio), it might do a very good job in a parts washer, be alot cheaper that Grainger, safe to use, and pleasant smelling. Tony "Grant Erwin" wrote in message ... I'm having trouble finding *anything* cheap. My target price is $1/gal. Some of the paint supply places in my area want over $12 a gallon for paint thinner! On another note, I see that Grainger's "Super Agitene" brand is 97% aliphatic petroleum spirits, in other words paint thinner, in other words mineral spirits, in other words Stoddard solvent. By the way, I have *never* seen "Stoddard solvent" for sale. I'm sure I could find it online. I heard "it's stocked up in Canada" so one time when I was up there I tried a hardware store and a paint store. Nothing but blank looks. Anyone actually know of a real source for paint thinner/mineral spirits in the Seattle/Eastside area that's cheap? I don't need another $15 price on 2.5 gallons, thanks. Grant Tom Gardner wrote: OK, don't laugh. I have tried: Kerosene, Stoddard, diesel, Tri-cholosomething 111, and the best all-around is automatic dishwasher detergent. I get it from a food-supply house CHEAP! My tank is heated and pumped so I just come back later. "Grant Erwin" wrote in message ... I have a Graymills drum-mounted parts washer. Last time it needed solvent I plunked down something like $75 for 10 gallons of Super Agitene at Grainger. NFW I'm going to do that again. It's time to clean it out and put in new solvent, and I'm looking for something I can homebrew or buy cheaply, ideally locally. I know that NAPA stores carry stuff called "Solvent" in one-gallon bottles but that stuff is brown and sort of nasty. That's what I used to use in my old 4-gallon import, and I didn't like it. I know I'm not the only one on this NG with a parts washer. What do you use? GWE |
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"Grant Erwin" wrote in message ... I'm having trouble finding *anything* cheap. My target price is $1/gal. Some of the paint supply places in my area want over $12 a gallon for paint thinner! On another note, I see that Grainger's "Super Agitene" brand is 97% aliphatic petroleum spirits, in other words paint thinner, in other words mineral spirits, in other words Stoddard solvent. By the way, I have *never* seen "Stoddard solvent" for sale. I'm sure I could find it online. I heard "it's stocked up in Canada" so one time when I was up there I tried a hardware store and a paint store. Nothing but blank looks. Anyone actually know of a real source for paint thinner/mineral spirits in the Seattle/Eastside area that's cheap? I don't need another $15 price on 2.5 gallons, thanks. Grant I buy stanisol, or mineral spirits at a local oil supplier. Last I paid was $3 a gallon about a year ago. Good luck getting it for less! Sometimes I have seen paint thinner, mineral spirits for a dollar or so on sale at one of the chain home stores. Greg |
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"Greg O" wrote in message ... snip---- Sometimes I have seen paint thinner, mineral spirits for a dollar or so on sale at one of the chain home stores. Greg I was paying $2/gallon routinely until the oil market went ballistic. Don't have any idea what they're asking now. I bought 10 gallons, so I still have a little left. Harold |
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:32:45 -0800, "Harold & Susan Vordos"
wrote: "Greg O" wrote in message ... snip---- Sometimes I have seen paint thinner, mineral spirits for a dollar or so on sale at one of the chain home stores. Greg I was paying $2/gallon routinely until the oil market went ballistic. Don't have any idea what they're asking now. I bought 10 gallons, so I still have a little left. The last I bought about 6 months ago was $2 but it may of gone up since then. Then again they've got a pretty good sized tank of it and I doubt they sell that much. If they've had to refill I bet it'll be higher. Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX http://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook |
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I've used "Solvent 365" from Tarr, Inc. in Auburn, WA 253-859-2979, they're
in the phone book. It's a petro solvent, can says it contains naptha, no detail other than that. They have other stuff available, if I remember, it wasn't that cheap, but I don't use that much. Give them a call and ask what they might have that meets your needs. If I didn't still have old stock on hand, for a little while anyway, I'd consider an odorless product, like odorless mineral spirits, that is sure nice to use, but then I can't stand the smell of mineral spirits for some reason. Another thought, is Don Small & Sons in Auburn, 253-833-0430. They deal in just about all types of oils and lubes, race gas, home heating oil, etc. Check with them, they might have something. nic "Harold & Susan Vordos" wrote in message ... "Greg O" wrote in message ... snip---- Sometimes I have seen paint thinner, mineral spirits for a dollar or so on sale at one of the chain home stores. Greg I was paying $2/gallon routinely until the oil market went ballistic. Don't have any idea what they're asking now. I bought 10 gallons, so I still have a little left. Harold |
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"Tom Gardner" wrote in message om... OK, don't laugh. I have tried: Kerosene, Stoddard, diesel, Tri-cholosomething 111, and the best all-around is automatic dishwasher detergent. I get it from a food-supply house CHEAP! My tank is heated and pumped so I just come back later. We used to have an "Ozzy Juice" parts washer which didn't work too bad. We also used Stoddard for testing mechanical fuel pumps... |
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Grant Erwin wrote:
.... Anyone actually know of a real source for paint thinner/mineral spirits in the Seattle/Eastside area that's cheap? ... Paint thinner has a standard sale price of $1.99/gal (around here, anyhow). Amazingly, it has had that sale price for at least 14 YEARS! Through all the oil price gyrations, paint thinner goes on sale for $1.99. Bob |
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"John Kunkel" wrote:
"DanG" wrote: Stoddard solvent is the official name. It smells, feels, and acts just like mineral spirits paint thinner to me. Pay a visit to your local petroleum distributor and you'll likely see a huge tank labeled mineral spirits. From this one tank they will fill drums labeled mineral spirits, paint thinner, solvent. BBQ lighter fluid also; using mineral spirits saves a ton of $$$ when compared with buying the _same_ product with a label that says "Briquette lighter fluid". Jon |
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BBQ lighter fluid also; using mineral spirits saves a ton of $$$ when
compared with buying the _same_ product with a label that says "Briquette lighter fluid". Last time I looked, lighter fluid contained naptha. |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:26:27 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote: OK, don't laugh. I have tried: Kerosene, Stoddard, diesel, Tri-cholosomething 111, and the best all-around is automatic dishwasher detergent. I get it from a food-supply house CHEAP! My tank is heated and pumped so I just come back later. Lots of my production shops use heated parts washers and similar soap, with a final rinse before the parts go into the boxes for shipment. Seems to work fine. I use SafetyKleen in my parts washer, but then..I have a buddy who has a buddy..... Gunner "Grant Erwin" wrote in message ... I have a Graymills drum-mounted parts washer. Last time it needed solvent I plunked down something like $75 for 10 gallons of Super Agitene at Grainger. NFW I'm going to do that again. It's time to clean it out and put in new solvent, and I'm looking for something I can homebrew or buy cheaply, ideally locally. I know that NAPA stores carry stuff called "Solvent" in one-gallon bottles but that stuff is brown and sort of nasty. That's what I used to use in my old 4-gallon import, and I didn't like it. I know I'm not the only one on this NG with a parts washer. What do you use? GWE "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke |
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