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It might be Kapton tape, although the Kapton I've used was orange-colored.
We used to use it on electronic connectors that were being overmolded, to
keep the molten plastic from flowing where it wasn't wanted.

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Spehro Pefhany
 
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Hi,

here's a photo:

https://www.pendrypowdercoatings.com...emp%20Tape.JPG

They call it "Hi-temp tape". It's sold as "masking tape" for powder
coating (so presumably it's good to 350°F or more), and I'd like to
track the specs down for another potential application.


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Methinks that this is teflon tape, which is hi-temp stuff until it burns
and outgasses some nasty stuff. Very slippery stuff. Almost feels oily,
and you have to grab it just right to handle it. Trying to recall who makes
this kind of tape.... Scotch? Permatex? Permacell?


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| Hi,
|
| here's a photo:
|
| https://www.pendrypowdercoatings.com...emp%20Tape.JPG
|
| They call it "Hi-temp tape". It's sold as "masking tape" for powder
| coating (so presumably it's good to 350°F or more), and I'd like to
| track the specs down for another potential application.
|
|
| Best regards,
| Spehro Pefhany
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| Info for manufacturers:
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Spehro Pefhany wrote in
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Hi,

here's a photo:

https://www.pendrypowdercoatings.com...emp%20Tape.JPG

They call it "Hi-temp tape". It's sold as "masking tape" for powder
coating (so presumably it's good to 350°F or more), and I'd like to
track the specs down for another potential application.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany


I'm not sure what your application is but there is a tape made for masking
pcbs for wave soldering called Kapton tape (3M - Scotch 5413 Polyimide Film
Tape) It is good for continuous use up to 500 F.

You can find it at DigiKey.


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On 2 Jan 2005 18:28:01 -0800, the renowned wrote:

http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedPr...xhibitID=11492

Thanks, Lewin,

They appear to be polyester tape with silicone adhesive, so nothing
new. I suppose they soften along with the polyester powder at the
~400°F cure temperature, but the silicone adhesive keeps them from
sticking permanently. I don't think I've seen the translucent green &
blue colors before.


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On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 02:35:02 GMT, Al Clark
wrote:

https://www.pendrypowdercoatings.com...emp%20Tape.JPG

They call it "Hi-temp tape". It's sold as "masking tape" for powder
coating (so presumably it's good to 350°F or more), and I'd like to
track the specs down for another potential application.


I'm not sure what your application is but there is a tape made for masking
pcbs for wave soldering called Kapton tape (3M - Scotch 5413 Polyimide Film
Tape) It is good for continuous use up to 500 F.

You can find it at DigiKey.


Where I worked we used Kapton in vacuum chambers where satellite
equipment was being toasted by quartz lamps. It's pretty good stuff.
For our applications it not only had to resist heat but also not
outgass in vacuum. It's a yellow brown in color though.

Another brand in use at the same facility that's blue like the sample
you posted the URL to is sold by this outfit:
http://www.tycoadhesives.com/site/co...ape_search.asp




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On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:06:55 -0800, the renowned John Ings
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 02:35:02 GMT, Al Clark
wrote:

https://www.pendrypowdercoatings.com...emp%20Tape.JPG

They call it "Hi-temp tape". It's sold as "masking tape" for powder
coating (so presumably it's good to 350°F or more), and I'd like to
track the specs down for another potential application.


I'm not sure what your application is but there is a tape made for masking
pcbs for wave soldering called Kapton tape (3M - Scotch 5413 Polyimide Film
Tape) It is good for continuous use up to 500 F.

You can find it at DigiKey.


Where I worked we used Kapton in vacuum chambers where satellite
equipment was being toasted by quartz lamps. It's pretty good stuff.
For our applications it not only had to resist heat but also not
outgass in vacuum. It's a yellow brown in color though.


I agree that Kapton (polyimide) tape is excellent stuff (aircraft
disasters notwithstanding). I'm trying to find something not *quite*
as good (but hopefully substantially cheaper).

Another brand in use at the same facility that's blue like the sample
you posted the URL to is sold by this outfit:
http://www.tycoadhesives.com/site/co...ape_search.asp


Lots o' tapes on that site, including some quite unusual ones. Thanks.
I don't see anything that's high temperature and that color (though
the color is immaterial with polyester).


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:
Hi,

here's a photo:

https://www.pendrypowdercoatings.com...emp%20Tape.JPG

They call it "Hi-temp tape". It's sold as "masking tape" for powder
coating (so presumably it's good to 350°F or more), and I'd like to
track the specs down for another potential application.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

There are some high temp tapes used in Plasma spray coatings
here are a couple of links
http://www.intertronics.co.uk/products/cint610.htm
http://www.homestead.com/aflame/index.html
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This is what I use for powder coating...

http://makeashorterlink.com/?L1F72352A

Allan



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http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedPr...xhibitID=11492

They appear to be polyester tape with silicone adhesive, so nothing
new. I suppose they soften along with the polyester powder at the


Looked like polyimide according to the manufacturer's site.

Do you want to use this as a stencil for anodized aluminium instrument
panels?

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Spehro Pefhany
 
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On 2 Jan 2005 19:39:48 -0800, the renowned wrote:

http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedPr...xhibitID=11492

They appear to be polyester tape with silicone adhesive, so nothing
new. I suppose they soften along with the polyester powder at the


Looked like polyimide according to the manufacturer's site.


They are non-specific on the colo[u]rs vs. materials. I think if it's
polyimide it's going to be amber, if it's polyester it could be
anything.

Do you want to use this as a stencil for anodized aluminium instrument
panels?


High temperature electrical insulation.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:
Hi,

here's a photo:

https://www.pendrypowdercoatings.com...emp%20Tape.JPG

They call it "Hi-temp tape". It's sold as "masking tape" for powder
coating (so presumably it's good to 350°F or more), and I'd like to
track the specs down for another potential application.


Hey Speff-

I have a couple rolls of the 3/4" wide Kapton left over
from a previous contract. Say the word and I will send
them off to Trexon. Free for nothing.

--Winston

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On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 20:59:57 -0800, the renowned Winston
wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote:
Hi,

here's a photo:

https://www.pendrypowdercoatings.com...emp%20Tape.JPG

They call it "Hi-temp tape". It's sold as "masking tape" for powder
coating (so presumably it's good to 350°F or more), and I'd like to
track the specs down for another potential application.


Hey Speff-

I have a couple rolls of the 3/4" wide Kapton left over
from a previous contract. Say the word and I will send
them off to Trexon. Free for nothing.

--Winston


That would be mighty good of you. Thanks in advance, and a happy,
healthy and prosperous 2005!


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:06:55 -0800, the renowned John Ings
wrote:


On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 02:35:02 GMT, Al Clark
wrote:


https://www.pendrypowdercoatings.com...emp%20Tape.JPG

They call it "Hi-temp tape". It's sold as "masking tape" for powder
coating (so presumably it's good to 350°F or more), and I'd like to
track the specs down for another potential application.


I'm not sure what your application is but there is a tape made for masking
pcbs for wave soldering called Kapton tape (3M - Scotch 5413 Polyimide Film
Tape) It is good for continuous use up to 500 F.

You can find it at DigiKey.


Where I worked we used Kapton in vacuum chambers where satellite
equipment was being toasted by quartz lamps. It's pretty good stuff.
For our applications it not only had to resist heat but also not
outgass in vacuum. It's a yellow brown in color though.



I agree that Kapton (polyimide) tape is excellent stuff (aircraft
disasters notwithstanding). I'm trying to find something not *quite*
as good (but hopefully substantially cheaper).


Another brand in use at the same facility that's blue like the sample
you posted the URL to is sold by this outfit:
http://www.tycoadhesives.com/site/co...ape_search.asp



Lots o' tapes on that site, including some quite unusual ones. Thanks.
I don't see anything that's high temperature and that color (though
the color is immaterial with polyester).


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

http://www.3m.com/us/mfg_industrial/.../prodlit.jhtml
A selector guide of sorts -

Look over the class 1 masking tapes - the 2693 is a good start. There are
several to check - and make price cut based on volume of total world market.
Maybe the 2380 in class II. (Cheaper by class I bet)

Then searching for powercoat :
3M™ Composite Bonding Tape 8905, 10 in x 72 yd, 4 per case
[click to enlarge]

Clean removing high temperature silicone adhesive and tough
non-slivering polyester backing makes this tape a popular
choice for powder coat paint masking. 6.6 mil (0.17 mm)
total thickness.


3M Id : 70-0063-1697-3 this one looks like a baking at 350F for 5 hours
and up to 400F...
GTIN(UPC/EAN) : 0 00 21200 55208 3

Don't know the prices - have to check them out.
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Hey Speff-

I have a couple rolls of the 3/4" wide Kapton left over


from a previous contract. Say the word and I will send


them off to Trexon. Free for nothing.

--Winston



That would be mighty good of you. Thanks in advance, and a happy,
healthy and prosperous 2005!


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany


The same to you, Speff and all RCM'ers worldwide.

(Tape will be started on its way by tomorrow afternoon.)

--Winston


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On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 06:22:49 GMT, the renowned "Martin H. Eastburn"
wrote:

http://www.3m.com/us/mfg_industrial/.../prodlit.jhtml
A selector guide of sorts -

Look over the class 1 masking tapes - the 2693 is a good start. There are
several to check - and make price cut based on volume of total world market.
Maybe the 2380 in class II. (Cheaper by class I bet)

Then searching for powercoat :
3M™ Composite Bonding Tape 8905, 10 in x 72 yd, 4 per case
[click to enlarge]


Thanks, Martin, 3M has a much nicer search engine.

That much Kapton tape would probably run $500 or more (50+ 3/4" rolls
minimum order). Polyester should be cheaper.

Clean removing high temperature silicone adhesive and tough
non-slivering polyester backing makes this tape a popular
choice for powder coat paint masking. 6.6 mil (0.17 mm)
total thickness.


3M Id : 70-0063-1697-3 this one looks like a baking at 350F for 5 hours
and up to 400F...
GTIN(UPC/EAN) : 0 00 21200 55208 3

Don't know the prices - have to check them out.
Martin


I've also had trouble getting smallish quantities of such common 3M
adhesives as 46xMP (basically just a permanent acrylic adhesive with
two backings). Here's the sort of thing..

http://rshughes.com/products/021200_88676.html

You only have to buy one (master) roll, but it's $1500.00. 8-(


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