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Stryco blade welder
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 09:33:05 +0000, Gunner wrote:
On the starboard side (means "over yonder" for those of you in Pumpkin Center) is a red button marked Anneal, a red button marked Weld, and a round disky knob with the numbers 1-6 on it. The knob does not appear to do a hell of a lot of anything other than to put a bit more or less load on the blade "force together after they are red hot" mechanism. I think. Maybe. Kinda sorta. IMHO. Anyone can tell me exactly what that knob/dial is supposed to do, and what the suggested settings are? There are three ways to accommodate different blade sizes: 1) Use fixed pressure and vary the current. 2) Use fixed current and vary the pressure. 3) Vary the current and pressure. Control of the weld cycle may be done by a timer, either of fixed duration or one that varies with blade size, or by switching off the primary power based on the movment of the jaws as the weld upset occurs. The later method is more precise and seems to be the method of choice on some of the better blade welders. Your welder appears to be a fixed current, variable pressure, timer controlled system. And given that it is a 220VAC it may be rated for 3/4" or 1" blades. Assuming that 1 on the pressure dial is the lowest pressure and 6 is the greatest, position 6 would be used for a 3/4" blade and 1 for a 1/4". When the pressure is correct for the width blade there will be minimal sparks and an even upset along the weld. Experiment with a 1/2" blade and you'll find the "sweet spot" pretty quickly. Where the pressure dial winds up for a 1/2" blade will give you a good idea where other blades need to be welded. In my experience with home made welders (I've built four) a large shower of sparks indicates an excessive current/insufficient pressure relationship. It is really important the the ends of the blade be squared off and match before welding. This is best done by flipping one end of the blade, holding them together and grinding both at the same time. Ground this way any error when grinding will cancel out when the ends of blade are oriented normally in the welder jaws. It sounds like you may have never used a blade welder before. And if that's the case surely one of your clients has one and an experienced tech. It would be well worth your time to watch someone weld a blade correctly. You'll see what a proper weld looks like and will be able to "dial" yours in. FYI: Stryco still exists and makes blade welders. There's nothing on their site (http://www.micro-weld.com/stryco) about older models, but you might try contacting them for info on this one. Anyways..and annealing..do I simply put the clamps fully apart, or? before annealing. When they are fully apart and a 1/2" blade is resting all comfortable in there..it turns an interesting shade of blue, but never goes red. Iffin I bring them together a bit..then it will glow red as long as I hold the Anneal button down. actually In..it being on the the side and all..but again I digress..sigh) Normally annealing is done with the jaws open. And it is really important to shade the jaw area so that you can see what's happening. The guy that taught me used to turn the lights in the vicinity of the welder off and use the built in work light on the welder for setup and turn it off when annealing. In a darkened area you just barely want to see a glimmer of dull red at the weld. The test for proper annealing is to flex the blade at the weld. If it breaks it wasn't properly annealed. Note that it isn't necessary to be able to bend the blade back on itself, although a fully annealed weld will survive this. A modest bend, say around 90deg, without breaking is good enough. -- The instructions said to use Windows 98 or better, so I installed RedHat. |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:32:29 GMT, Ron Moore
wrote: Sounds like a great find. You didn't say what the rating on it was. Rating? None listed on the data plate, but the last time I had blades welded, the shop used one very nearly the same and he was welding 1" blades with it. Gunner "To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:52:56 GMT, Gunner
wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:32:29 GMT, Ron Moore wrote: Sounds like a great find. You didn't say what the rating on it was. Rating? None listed on the data plate, but the last time I had blades welded, the shop used one very nearly the same and he was welding 1" blades with it. The data plate says this is an 18 amp (at 220vac 1ph) or 4KW welder. Gunner "To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas |
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OK, I am going to have to find out where you live, and a time when you
won't be home, and a BIG truck to haul all those books away in. Your tools, pets, and guns are safe, but those books, that is a differnt story! Terry |
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:23:39 GMT in misc.survivalism : On 13 Dec 2004 04:27:45 -0800, wrote: OK, I am going to have to find out where you live, and a time when you won't be home, and a BIG truck to haul all those books away in. Your tools, pets, and guns are safe, but those books, that is a differnt story! Terry Come over when Im home and Ill help you load....G Its a trap Terry. First he helps you start loading the truck, then he points out a "good one" the next thing you know, it's dark and you haven't finished the book, and there are three more on your knee, and "how did it get to be election day already?" Rogue librarians are going to hijack you and your cargo, and you'll never be heard from again. Put to work chipping away in a federal quandary.... Gunner "To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas -- pyotr filipivich "MTV may talk about lighting fires and killing children, but Janet Reno actually does something about it." --Spy Magazine |
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pyotr filipivich wrote:
I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:23:39 GMT in misc.survivalism : On 13 Dec 2004 04:27:45 -0800, wrote: OK, I am going to have to find out where you live, and a time when you won't be home, and a BIG truck to haul all those books away in. Your tools, pets, and guns are safe, but those books, that is a differnt story! Terry Come over when Im home and Ill help you load....G Its a trap Terry. First he helps you start loading the truck, then he points out a "good one" the next thing you know, it's dark and you haven't finished the book, and there are three more on your knee, and "how did it get to be election day already?" Rogue librarians are going to hijack you and your cargo, and you'll never be heard from again. Put to work chipping away in a federal quandary.... Gunner "To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas There is a variant - he shows you a good book, drives away with the truck, drops the load in a storage building, picks up his load.....returns in time for the next book and next heavy load needing transfer. :-) Martin -- Martin Eastburn, Barbara Eastburn @ home at Lion's Lair with our computer NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder |
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wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:23:39 GMT in misc.survivalism : On 13 Dec 2004 04:27:45 -0800, wrote: OK, I am going to have to find out where you live, and a time when you won't be home, and a BIG truck to haul all those books away in. Your tools, pets, and guns are safe, but those books, that is a differnt story! Terry Come over when Im home and Ill help you load....G Its a trap Terry. First he helps you start loading the truck, then he points out a "good one" the next thing you know, it's dark and you haven't finished the book, and there are three more on your knee, and "how did it get to be election day already?" Rogue librarians are going to hijack you and your cargo, and you'll never be heard from again. Put to work chipping away in a federal quandary.... I should have mentioned..for every 100 books, you are obligated to take one cat or puppy. Which makes the "three on your knee" comment so poignent G Gunner Gunner "To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas "To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas |
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I will only have to take 20 kittens, great, I will be out the week
beteen Christmas and New Years. Right after I win the lottery. Only one little problem, I don't play the lottery. I figure that not buying a ticket only decreases my chance of winning by a very slight amount. Now if I could find a winning lottery ticket that would be cool. Not imposible, but unlikely. A friend was layed off about 10 years ago, Christmas was lookng grim. His young daughter picked up a "scratch off" lottery ticket spent the entire trip home looking at it, so my friend and his wife decided to relate how bad a choice buying lottery tickets was. Explained odds to her, As they arrived home, she commented, somehing similar to, know that winning is rare, that you stand a better chance of being hit by lightning, butif winning tickets are so rare why would someone thorugh a winner away. Her mom, assuming her daughter had misread it, asked to look at it, and freaked. It was a winner. 25K. After the moral debate what to do with the ticket, after all how do you find the original purchaser, they decided to wait a week or so to see if any news stories about lost wiing tickets ran, and when none did, the decided to cash it and put it away for their daugthrers college fund. The dauhgter, a mature 8 years, argued that her dad should use the money to get some addtional training. That she had 10- years before she could go, but her dad, and the family could realy benefit from his going to school. He got a AA degree, a much better job, and the daughter started college this fall. So you can win without playing, but all in all I would prefer to set my money on fire and watch it burn as to waste it on lottery tickets. This time of year the burning money would supply a little warmth. So as soon as I find a winning lottery ticket I will be heading out that way. Maybe we could combine our respective book collections and start a"really big" library, Terry |
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I will only have to take 20 kittens, great, I will be out the week
beteen Christmas and New Years. Right after I win the lottery. Only one little problem, I don't play the lottery. I figure that not buying a ticket only decreases my chance of winning by a very slight amount. Now if I could find a winning lottery ticket that would be cool. Not imposible, but unlikely. A friend was layed off about 10 years ago, Christmas was lookng grim. His young daughter picked up a "scratch off" lottery ticket spent the entire trip home looking at it, so my friend and his wife decided to relate how bad a choice buying lottery tickets was. Explained odds to her, As they arrived home, she commented, somehing similar to, know that winning is rare, that you stand a better chance of being hit by lightning, butif winning tickets are so rare why would someone thorugh a winner away. Her mom, assuming her daughter had misread it, asked to look at it, and freaked. It was a winner. 25K. After the moral debate what to do with the ticket, after all how do you find the original purchaser, they decided to wait a week or so to see if any news stories about lost wiing tickets ran, and when none did, the decided to cash it and put it away for their daugthrers college fund. The dauhgter, a mature 8 years, argued that her dad should use the money to get some addtional training. That she had 10- years before she could go, but her dad, and the family could realy benefit from his going to school. He got a AA degree, a much better job, and the daughter started college this fall. So you can win without playing, but all in all I would prefer to set my money on fire and watch it burn as to waste it on lottery tickets. This time of year the burning money would supply a little warmth. So as soon as I find a winning lottery ticket I will be heading out that way. Maybe we could combine our respective book collections and start a"really big" library, Terry |
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Tue, 14 Dec 2004 05:06:53 GMT in misc.survivalism : wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:23:39 GMT in misc.survivalism : On 13 Dec 2004 04:27:45 -0800, wrote: OK, I am going to have to find out where you live, and a time when you won't be home, and a BIG truck to haul all those books away in. Your tools, pets, and guns are safe, but those books, that is a differnt story! Terry Come over when Im home and Ill help you load....G Its a trap Terry. First he helps you start loading the truck, then he points out a "good one" the next thing you know, it's dark and you haven't finished the book, and there are three more on your knee, and "how did it get to be election day already?" Rogue librarians are going to hijack you and your cargo, and you'll never be heard from again. Put to work chipping away in a federal quandary.... I should have mentioned..for every 100 books, you are obligated to take one cat or puppy. I thought so. Gunner hands you a "interesting book". Then while you are distracted by that, he uses arcane Buddhist Gedi Minds tricks so you don't notice him emptying boxes of books, and filling them with cats. Then he sends you on your way, and when you get home, there you are with a herd of cats, and a bunch of books he didn't want: Tropic of Calculus, Great Buddhist Accountants of Belgium, the Collected Speeches of Albert Gore, The Joy of Sox, Ignorance for Dummies, and Breaking Machine tools for fun and tax write offs. Tricky people, these renegade Buddhist Furrballs. tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich "MTV may talk about lighting fires and killing children, but Janet Reno actually does something about it." --Spy Magazine |
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:03:04 GMT, pyotr filipivich
wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Tue, 14 Dec 2004 05:06:53 GMT in misc.survivalism : wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:23:39 GMT in misc.survivalism : On 13 Dec 2004 04:27:45 -0800, wrote: OK, I am going to have to find out where you live, and a time when you won't be home, and a BIG truck to haul all those books away in. Your tools, pets, and guns are safe, but those books, that is a differnt story! Terry Come over when Im home and Ill help you load....G Its a trap Terry. First he helps you start loading the truck, then he points out a "good one" the next thing you know, it's dark and you haven't finished the book, and there are three more on your knee, and "how did it get to be election day already?" Rogue librarians are going to hijack you and your cargo, and you'll never be heard from again. Put to work chipping away in a federal quandary.... I should have mentioned..for every 100 books, you are obligated to take one cat or puppy. I thought so. Gunner hands you a "interesting book". Then while you are distracted by that, he uses arcane Buddhist Gedi Minds tricks so you don't notice him emptying boxes of books, and filling them with cats. Then he sends you on your way, and when you get home, there you are with a herd of cats, and a bunch of books he didn't want: Tropic of Calculus, Great Buddhist Accountants of Belgium, the Collected Speeches of Albert Gore, The Joy of Sox, Ignorance for Dummies, and Breaking Machine tools for fun and tax write offs. Tricky people, these renegade Buddhist Furrballs. tschus pyotr The Collected Speeches of Algor is already gone. I glued a check for a 25cent donation to the DNC to the front cover, cut out the inside and filled it with a piece of plate steel and sent it to the DNC postage due. They cashed the check and sent me a very nice thank you letter. Gunner "If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're around." "Democrat. In the dictionary it's right after demobilize and right before demode` (out of fashion). -Buddy Jordan 2001 |
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Got to love them - so blinded by the light they didn't know what hit them!
Martin Gunner wrote: On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:03:04 GMT, pyotr filipivich wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Tue, 14 Dec 2004 05:06:53 GMT in misc.survivalism : wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:23:39 GMT in misc.survivalism : On 13 Dec 2004 04:27:45 -0800, wrote: OK, I am going to have to find out where you live, and a time when you won't be home, and a BIG truck to haul all those books away in. Your tools, pets, and guns are safe, but those books, that is a differnt story! Terry Come over when Im home and Ill help you load....G Its a trap Terry. First he helps you start loading the truck, then he points out a "good one" the next thing you know, it's dark and you haven't finished the book, and there are three more on your knee, and "how did it get to be election day already?" Rogue librarians are going to hijack you and your cargo, and you'll never be heard from again. Put to work chipping away in a federal quandary.... I should have mentioned..for every 100 books, you are obligated to take one cat or puppy. I thought so. Gunner hands you a "interesting book". Then while you are distracted by that, he uses arcane Buddhist Gedi Minds tricks so you don't notice him emptying boxes of books, and filling them with cats. Then he sends you on your way, and when you get home, there you are with a herd of cats, and a bunch of books he didn't want: Tropic of Calculus, Great Buddhist Accountants of Belgium, the Collected Speeches of Albert Gore, The Joy of Sox, Ignorance for Dummies, and Breaking Machine tools for fun and tax write offs. Tricky people, these renegade Buddhist Furrballs. tschus pyotr The Collected Speeches of Algor is already gone. I glued a check for a 25cent donation to the DNC to the front cover, cut out the inside and filled it with a piece of plate steel and sent it to the DNC postage due. They cashed the check and sent me a very nice thank you letter. Gunner "If I'm going to reach out to the the Democrats then I need a third hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're around." "Democrat. In the dictionary it's right after demobilize and right before demode` (out of fashion). -Buddy Jordan 2001 -- Martin Eastburn, Barbara Eastburn @ home at Lion's Lair with our computer NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder |
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:55:10 GMT in misc.survivalism : On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:03:04 GMT, pyotr filipivich wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Tue, 14 Dec 2004 05:06:53 GMT in misc.survivalism : wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:23:39 GMT in misc.survivalism : On 13 Dec 2004 04:27:45 -0800, wrote: OK, I am going to have to find out where you live, and a time when you won't be home, and a BIG truck to haul all those books away in. Your tools, pets, and guns are safe, but those books, that is a differnt story! Terry Come over when Im home and Ill help you load....G Its a trap Terry. First he helps you start loading the truck, then he points out a "good one" the next thing you know, it's dark and you haven't finished the book, and there are three more on your knee, and "how did it get to be election day already?" Rogue librarians are going to hijack you and your cargo, and you'll never be heard from again. Put to work chipping away in a federal quandary.... I should have mentioned..for every 100 books, you are obligated to take one cat or puppy. I thought so. Gunner hands you a "interesting book". Then while you are distracted by that, he uses arcane Buddhist Gedi Minds tricks so you don't notice him emptying boxes of books, and filling them with cats. Then he sends you on your way, and when you get home, there you are with a herd of cats, and a bunch of books he didn't want: Tropic of Calculus, Great Buddhist Accountants of Belgium, the Collected Speeches of Albert Gore, The Joy of Sox, Ignorance for Dummies, and Breaking Machine tools for fun and tax write offs. Tricky people, these renegade Buddhist Furrballs. tschus pyotr The Collected Speeches of Algor is already gone. I glued a check for a 25cent donation to the DNC to the front cover, cut out the inside and filled it with a piece of plate steel and sent it to the DNC postage due. I'd have thought you would have used that for a back stop, or to level one of the machines. Or is that really what you dropped on your toe last spring? They cashed the check and sent me a very nice thank you letter. But of course. -- pyotr filipivich "MTV may talk about lighting fires and killing children, but Janet Reno actually does something about it." --Spy Magazine |
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:37:25 GMT in misc.survivalism : On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 00:53:59 GMT, pyotr filipivich wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:55:10 GMT in misc.survivalism : On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:03:04 GMT, pyotr filipivich wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Tue, 14 Dec 2004 05:06:53 GMT in misc.survivalism : wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:23:39 GMT in misc.survivalism : On 13 Dec 2004 04:27:45 -0800, wrote: OK, I am going to have to find out where you live, and a time when you won't be home, and a BIG truck to haul all those books away in. Your tools, pets, and guns are safe, but those books, that is a differnt story! Terry Come over when Im home and Ill help you load....G Its a trap Terry. First he helps you start loading the truck, then he points out a "good one" the next thing you know, it's dark and you haven't finished the book, and there are three more on your knee, and "how did it get to be election day already?" Rogue librarians are going to hijack you and your cargo, and you'll never be heard from again. Put to work chipping away in a federal quandary.... I should have mentioned..for every 100 books, you are obligated to take one cat or puppy. I thought so. Gunner hands you a "interesting book". Then while you are distracted by that, he uses arcane Buddhist Gedi Minds tricks so you don't notice him emptying boxes of books, and filling them with cats. Then he sends you on your way, and when you get home, there you are with a herd of cats, and a bunch of books he didn't want: Tropic of Calculus, Great Buddhist Accountants of Belgium, the Collected Speeches of Albert Gore, The Joy of Sox, Ignorance for Dummies, and Breaking Machine tools for fun and tax write offs. Tricky people, these renegade Buddhist Furrballs. tschus pyotr The Collected Speeches of Algor is already gone. I glued a check for a 25cent donation to the DNC to the front cover, cut out the inside and filled it with a piece of plate steel and sent it to the DNC postage due. I'd have thought you would have used that for a back stop, or to level one of the machines. I use T1 plate for back stops, and normally use 1/8" aluminum plate for leveling via stacking. Well, there is that. [Obligatory metal working content.] But if you come across any more copies, let me know. I'm looking fro a cheap source of shielding for the home built reactor, and I want to save the lead for casting bullets. Or is that really what you dropped on your toe last spring? Hummm it may have been a chip off the old block so to speak. They cashed the check and sent me a very nice thank you letter. But of course. I wonder how much that check cost them to process? Depends on whether they cashed it at the Buddhist Monastic Bank. I understand they had an account there. (Or was that the Mekong River Bank? The memory was seared, seared I tell you, into my memory I think - what were we talking about?) [1] tschus pyotr [1] All of a sudden I am recalling the early Bloom County strip, where in Milo is interviewing the fat Senator, who is pontificating, and asks "Ah.. what were we talking about?" and Milo says "You were about to explain how you laundered the kick-back money." "Ah yes,... ." -- pyotr filipivich "MTV may talk about lighting fires and killing children, but Janet Reno actually does something about it." --Spy Magazine |
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