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Basic CNC router recomendations.
I'm thinking in terms of something for primarily facing slabs of wood for high end custom tables. Sources, plans, options? This is in the notion of possibly becoming an idea for a concept stage. And yes, I truly am "asking for a friend." tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich. Discussing the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol once wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with." |
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Basic CNC router recomendations.
On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 9:15:14 PM UTC-4, pyotr filipivich wrote:
I'm thinking in terms of something for primarily facing slabs of wood for high end custom tables. Sources, plans, options? This is in the notion of possibly becoming an idea for a concept stage. And yes, I truly am "asking for a friend." tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich. Discussing the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol once wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with." If you're just facing slabs, why CNC? Woodworking magazines have, in the past, published plans for a big 2-axis slide table that was just a couple of pairs of round guideways and bearings for the router, which is moved around the surface by hand. -- Ed Huntress |
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Basic CNC router recomendations.
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 18:16:14 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote: I'm thinking in terms of something for primarily facing slabs of wood for high end custom tables. Sources, plans, options? This is in the notion of possibly becoming an idea for a concept stage. And yes, I truly am "asking for a friend." tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich. Discussing the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol once wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with." http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grizzly-H293...-/252813658872 Plus this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Makita-3-1-4...-/331875841348 Hummm...the big question is...how big a slab are you going to be working? The Makita above will get you cleaned up pretty well, no matter the size..but it will still need sanding, at least on one side. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Whitney-S-37...-/252479367408 plus a double drum belt sander as the first one. Just to show you some examples. Getting similar machines much much cheaper is easily done. http://www.ebay.com/itm/30-planer/251825759889 |
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Gunner Asch on Tue, 11 Apr 2017 22:20:10 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 18:16:14 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: I'm thinking in terms of something for primarily facing slabs of wood for high end custom tables. Sources, plans, options? This is in the notion of possibly becoming an idea for a concept stage. And yes, I truly am "asking for a friend." tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich. Discussing the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol once wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with." http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grizzly-H293...-/252813658872 Plus this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Makita-3-1-4...-/331875841348 Hummm...the big question is...how big a slab are you going to be working? The Makita above will get you cleaned up pretty well, no matter the size..but it will still need sanding, at least on one side. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Whitney-S-37...-/252479367408 plus a double drum belt sander as the first one. Just to show you some examples. Getting similar machines much much cheaper is easily done. http://www.ebay.com/itm/30-planer/251825759889 As I said, friend makes "custom" tables, usually out of wood slabs, so the entire thing is often in one piece. I've not been out to his place, but I am assuming 4 feet by 8 feet for a working envelope. This is Plan B - I'm thinking I might be able to accomplish what he needs just with a smoother or joint plane. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone." |
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Basic CNC router recomendations.
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 18:16:14 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote: I'm thinking in terms of something for primarily facing slabs of wood for high end custom tables. Sources, plans, options? Some day, I'll take the time to read the question first. g The best bet is to make a drum sander. Dunno 'bout CNC for that. Djoutube is your friend. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ry=drum+sander -- Newman's First Law: It is useless to put on your brakes when you're upside down. --Paul Newman |
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On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 07:32:44 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote: Gunner Asch on Tue, 11 Apr 2017 22:20:10 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 18:16:14 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: I'm thinking in terms of something for primarily facing slabs of wood for high end custom tables. Sources, plans, options? This is in the notion of possibly becoming an idea for a concept stage. And yes, I truly am "asking for a friend." tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich. Discussing the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol once wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with." http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grizzly-H293...-/252813658872 Plus this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Makita-3-1-4...-/331875841348 Hummm...the big question is...how big a slab are you going to be working? The Makita above will get you cleaned up pretty well, no matter the size..but it will still need sanding, at least on one side. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Whitney-S-37...-/252479367408 plus a double drum belt sander as the first one. Just to show you some examples. Getting similar machines much much cheaper is easily done. http://www.ebay.com/itm/30-planer/251825759889 As I said, friend makes "custom" tables, usually out of wood slabs, so the entire thing is often in one piece. I've not been out to his place, but I am assuming 4 feet by 8 feet for a working envelope. Oh, a bit larger than I expected. Now I see why you were thinking CNC. Yes, a CNC router could get it close and a dual-action (orbital sander) could take it the rest of the way, or a Satanley + DA. This is Plan B - I'm thinking I might be able to accomplish what he needs just with a smoother or joint plane. Odeen would tell him to get a #7 or #8, he would. http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan1.htm That and a hovercraft to hold him while he planes. Bwahahahaha! -- Newman's First Law: It is useless to put on your brakes when you're upside down. --Paul Newman |
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Basic CNC router recomendations.
Larry Jaques on Wed, 12 Apr 2017
20:23:36 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 18:16:14 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: I'm thinking in terms of something for primarily facing slabs of wood for high end custom tables. Sources, plans, options? Some day, I'll take the time to read the question first. g The best bet is to make a drum sander. Dunno 'bout CNC for that. Djoutube is your friend. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ry=drum+sander. Thanks. I'm going to talk with him about CNC and a router rig. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone." |
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Basic CNC router recomendations.
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 18:16:14 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote: I'm thinking in terms of something for primarily facing slabs of wood for high end custom tables. Sources, plans, options? This is in the notion of possibly becoming an idea for a concept stage. And yes, I truly am "asking for a friend." I have a friend who built from scratch a 10' X 10' router that he used to route sign faces. Send me an email address and I'll put you two together. John John DeArmond http://www.neon-john.com http://www.tnduction.com Tellico Plains, Occupied TN See website for email address |
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pyotr filipivich wrote:
Larry Jaques on Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:23:36 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 18:16:14 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: I'm thinking in terms of something for primarily facing slabs of wood for high end custom tables. Sources, plans, options? Some day, I'll take the time to read the question first. g The best bet is to make a drum sander. Dunno 'bout CNC for that. Djoutube is your friend. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ry=drum+sander. Thanks. I'm going to talk with him about CNC and a router rig. CNC is probably not necessary , except in a very basic sense . Move router to limit switch in Y , which trips the X axis to move a preset distance and send router back , where it trips a limit on the other end . Biggest problems I see is overall levelling of the whole assembly and keeping the router in tram - you'll want to use at least a 3" or bigger flycutter type cutter . The big CNC router systems in use in cabinet shops can shave a 4' x 10' piece to within a few thousandths . -- Snag --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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"Terry Coombs" on Fri, 14 Apr 2017 21:32:33 -0500
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: pyotr filipivich wrote: Larry Jaques on Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:23:36 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 18:16:14 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: I'm thinking in terms of something for primarily facing slabs of wood for high end custom tables. Sources, plans, options? Some day, I'll take the time to read the question first. g The best bet is to make a drum sander. Dunno 'bout CNC for that. Djoutube is your friend. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ry=drum+sander. Thanks. I'm going to talk with him about CNC and a router rig. CNC is probably not necessary , except in a very basic sense . I'm thinking along those lines. Simple XY functionality, Z can be added later if necessary. (Yes, I am aware of the "How often do you use it now?" issue vs "If I had it, I'd use it more.") Move router to limit switch in Y , which trips the X axis to move a preset distance and send router back , where it trips a limit on the other end . Biggest problems I see is overall levelling of the whole assembly I see an issue in making sure the slab and the router path are kept parallel for some value of parallel. and keeping the router in tram - you'll want to use at least a 3" or bigger flycutter type Which leads up to the next question - where do I get one - router and cutter? I ask rhetorically - when I need one, I'll find one. First I have to convince Raabobo that they need this. cutter . The big CNC router systems in use in cabinet shops can shave a 4' x 10' piece to within a few thousandths . -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone." |
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pyotr filipivich wrote:
"Terry Coombs" on Fri, 14 Apr 2017 21:32:33 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: pyotr filipivich wrote: Larry Jaques on Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:23:36 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 18:16:14 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: I'm thinking in terms of something for primarily facing slabs of wood for high end custom tables. Sources, plans, options? Some day, I'll take the time to read the question first. g The best bet is to make a drum sander. Dunno 'bout CNC for that. Djoutube is your friend. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ry=drum+sander. Thanks. I'm going to talk with him about CNC and a router rig. CNC is probably not necessary , except in a very basic sense . I'm thinking along those lines. Simple XY functionality, Z can be added later if necessary. (Yes, I am aware of the "How often do you use it now?" issue vs "If I had it, I'd use it more.") Move router to limit switch in Y , which trips the X axis to move a preset distance and send router back , where it trips a limit on the other end . Biggest problems I see is overall levelling of the whole assembly I see an issue in making sure the slab and the router path are kept parallel for some value of parallel. and keeping the router in tram - you'll want to use at least a 3" or bigger flycutter type Which leads up to the next question - where do I get one - router and cutter? I ask rhetorically - when I need one, I'll find one. First I have to convince Raabobo that they need this. cutter . The big CNC router systems in use in cabinet shops can shave a 4' x 10' piece to within a few thousandths . Here's an ebay auction for an insert type cutter http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amana-Tool-R...-/322260712157 . These are usually used to clean up the spoil board that goes between the vacuum table and the workpiece . Routers with 1/2" collets are pretty common , if not cheap . I like Porter-Cable , last I used that kind of stuff they were pretty good - 2 hp minimum . A 3 point support under the slabs can be adjusted to get close to parallel , all those big routers have adjustment in Y so you can make a slab flat in steps . -- Snag --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 08:42:04 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote: "Terry Coombs" on Fri, 14 Apr 2017 21:32:33 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: pyotr filipivich wrote: Larry Jaques on Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:23:36 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 18:16:14 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: I'm thinking in terms of something for primarily facing slabs of wood for high end custom tables. Sources, plans, options? Some day, I'll take the time to read the question first. g The best bet is to make a drum sander. Dunno 'bout CNC for that. Djoutube is your friend. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ry=drum+sander. Thanks. I'm going to talk with him about CNC and a router rig. CNC is probably not necessary , except in a very basic sense . I'm thinking along those lines. Simple XY functionality, Z can be added later if necessary. (Yes, I am aware of the "How often do you use it now?" issue vs "If I had it, I'd use it more.") Move router to limit switch in Y , which trips the X axis to move a preset distance and send router back , where it trips a limit on the other end . Biggest problems I see is overall levelling of the whole assembly I see an issue in making sure the slab and the router path are kept parallel for some value of parallel. and keeping the router in tram - you'll want to use at least a 3" or bigger flycutter type Which leads up to the next question - where do I get one - router and cutter? I ask rhetorically - when I need one, I'll find one. First I have to convince Raabobo that they need this. I picked up a soft-start Hitachi M12VC 2.25hp woodworking router ($122 Amazon) and a set of Soigeneris precision collets ($80) for it. -- I started out with nothing and I still have most of it left! --anon |
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you are awsome,good luck for you.i am sure you can find the one. i am stanger of CNC so can offer less help. best wishes,again. ---------------------------------------- may need steel alloy steel plate, shipbuilding steel plate,Boiler steel plate |
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