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I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are
hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ -- Self-development is a higher duty than self-sacrifice. -- Elizabeth Cady Stanton |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . -- Snag |
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On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday. I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend. -- Happiness is not a station you arrive at, but a manner of traveling. -- Margaret Lee Runbeck |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice set of leathers . At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday. I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend. I'm actually going to use those leathers today . Going to the Ozark Seed Swap in a little while . I've gotten a lot of fairly uncommon varieties of veggies and stuff , all acclimatized to our area . And since I took the Ultra to the likker store yesterday I plan to ride the Ol' Lady's Sportster trike . The long way ... -- Snag |
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On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:09:34 AM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . -- Snag I probably do spend $600 on clothes in ten years. I frequent the local Salvation Army and buy shirts, jackets , and cashmere sweaters there. But pass on buying jeans. I buy them from Walmart for less than $10. For some reason I wear out the left knee on the blue jeans. I tried to fix that with some Kevlar, but it just is not worth the effort. Dan |
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On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday. I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend. Dyneema is what some of the toughest ropes and lines on high end sailboats are made from. On many boats..its being used to do the jobs steel cable used to do. Sheets, halyards, centerboard hoists etc. Fascinating to see it being used in this fashion. That was some very good application usage thinking outside of the box. That stuff has a higher strength rating than steel cable. Gunner --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 4:39:32 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:09:34 AM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote: Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . -- Snag I probably do spend $600 on clothes in ten years. I frequent the local Salvation Army and buy shirts, jackets , and cashmere sweaters there. But pass on buying jeans. I buy them from Walmart for less than $10. For some reason I wear out the left knee on the blue jeans. I tried to fix that with some Kevlar, but it just is not worth the effort. Dan Interesting. I always wear out the right knee before the left - something to do with politics maybe? Recently, though, I've been being more conscientious about using kneepads. Also, for a lot of my factory work, I've switched to Duluth Firehose pants. Yes, they're expensive, but they are tough as nails, comfortable, fit well, have lots of pockets and come clean in the wash. |
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On Sunday, March 5, 2017 at 9:03:44 AM UTC-5, rangerssuck wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 4:39:32 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:09:34 AM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote: Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . -- Snag I probably do spend $600 on clothes in ten years. I frequent the local Salvation Army and buy shirts, jackets , and cashmere sweaters there. But pass on buying jeans. I buy them from Walmart for less than $10. For some reason I wear out the left knee on the blue jeans. I tried to fix that with some Kevlar, but it just is not worth the effort. Dan Interesting. I always wear out the right knee before the left - something to do with politics maybe? Recently, though, I've been being more conscientious about using kneepads. Also, for a lot of my factory work, I've switched to Duluth Firehose pants. Yes, they're expensive, but they are tough as nails, comfortable, fit well, have lots of pockets and come clean in the wash. Also, I buy T-shirts at Goodwill for $.49 each. Usually brand new. |
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On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 4:39:32 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:09:34 AM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote: Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . -- Snag I probably do spend $600 on clothes in ten years. I frequent the local Salvation Army and buy shirts, jackets , and cashmere sweaters there. But pass on buying jeans. I buy them from Walmart for less than $10. For some reason I wear out the left knee on the blue jeans. I tried to fix that with some Kevlar, but it just is not worth the effort. I had that happen. When i'd get out of the driver's side my left knee would always touch the door. |
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On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 11:29:44 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice set of leathers . At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday. I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend. I'm actually going to use those leathers today . Going to the Ozark Seed Swap in a little while . I've gotten a lot of fairly uncommon varieties of veggies and stuff , all acclimatized to our area . Seed Swap: an extremely good thing for acclimatized heirloom varieties. Great! And since I took the Ultra to the likker store yesterday I plan to ride the Ol' Lady's Sportster trike . The long way ... You reckon ta carry -that- many seeds back, boy? Of you come across any diesel motocross bikes for free, keep me in mind, will ya? I had to laugh at this one, in comparison to the USMC bike: http://tinyurl.com/jle6rww https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JPKCVXY0P0 http://rx.iscdn.net/2013/09/60211_diesel.jpg -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour |
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday. I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend. Dyneema is what some of the toughest ropes and lines on high end sailboats are made from. On many boats..its being used to do the jobs steel cable used to do. Sheets, halyards, centerboard hoists etc. Fascinating to see it being used in this fashion. That was some very good application usage thinking outside of the box. That stuff has a higher strength rating than steel cable. So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr? -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour |
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday. I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend. Dyneema is what some of the toughest ropes and lines on high end sailboats are made from. On many boats..its being used to do the jobs steel cable used to do. Sheets, halyards, centerboard hoists etc. Fascinating to see it being used in this fashion. That was some very good application usage thinking outside of the box. That stuff has a higher strength rating than steel cable. So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr? Perhaps I might consider a pair, after all three of my leather riding pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter. Then I might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end so the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat. I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the winches. Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip. "Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep. Gunner --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the winches. Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip. "Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep. Gunner https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...messages/42671 I finally..finally..managed to go and get my FREE 1978 Aquarius 23, Saturday. After 6+ months of back and forth communications, heavy rains blocking the move, vehicle problems etc etc etc. This boat appears to be a 1978, flat backed transom, with an external rudder. The previous owner had been transferred from California to Alabama, fully intending to return and haul it back to Alabama, after parking it on a friends property in the foothills of the Sierras (Tehachapi, California). That was 7 or so years ago. He finally realized it was never going to happen..and through a long and very tedious period of time...I wound up with it. He had done a complete..complete restoration of the boat and trailer before parking it. New, high quality trailer tires, new paint inside and out, high end sails, fish finders, knot meters, stove, etc etc..and it sat..and sat..and sat. Prior to moving to Alabama..he had put all of his fishing and camping gear aboard. A pile of sleeping bags, gear, marine portable radios, scanners, flood lights, replacement and maintenance gear of all types, all neatly boxed in plastic tubs and packages, properly stored, properly marked, properly done. The man thinks like I think, he equips his boat just as I do.....its a bit scary how I stood there in the cabin..in the water (more in a minute) and told my buddy to lift that cushion and one should find X Y and Z in that bin..and sure as hell...it would be there. He equipped it for coastal sailing, stickers showed it hit the Catalina Island sailboat meets for almost 20 yrs in its life. Photos to be posted later today on my Google photo albums (link to be posted) The boat was sitting on its (Nice!) trailer on the side of a hill, stern downhill and I thought it a bit odd that I could lift the trailer tounge easily, but as we were under a deadline to get the boat hooked up, tires filled properly and then towed out of there before another rainstorm hit...didnt think much about it. Bear in mind...the mast was sitting secured over the hatchway, so we could only peer into the (tinted) windows and while we could see stuff piled up...we couldnt open up the boat until we got it back to my home, about 70 miles and 1.5 hours away. The boat towed...heavy..heavy as hell. But it didnt sway in the slightest. After a half mile or so of quick braking..the trailer brakes were free of rust and working properly and we towed her home. I did notice a bit of a surge when braking..but didnt think much of it...racing the rain. So we get the little girl back to my home, parked in a temporary spot..and I simply couldnt resist popping her open. I found a full 8"+ of water inside the boat. NO WONDER she towed heavy!! Crom!!..I had to be hauling at least 200 gallons of water..if not more. She had to weigh close to 5000 lbs with the trailer!! We have had a record amount of rain this year...but I dont know how so much got in there. Fortunately...the only damage discovered so far..as been some small areas of the (nice) internal hull covering has been loosened up and a small amount of swelling of cabin wood. Drawers are sticky to open etc. But Ill have to get this taken care of quick before permanent damage does occur. Im waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump and this morning Ill be pumping her out and putting in fans to dry her out. He had done such a nice restoration..that Im going to be keeping this lil girl. The paint is spotless (though a tiny bit oxidized..easy to simply wipe off), the winches are either new or very well reconditioned, etc etc. No spinnaker..but the genny, main and jib are minty, and the only thing of note..is the mast is rough..it was not reconditioned...aluminum oxidation, but NOT deep enough to weaken the mast in the slightest. So Ill be polishing the mast, putting new spreader tip covers where the old plastic is getting tired and dropping in a new 2 burner alcohol stove (his messages warned the existing one is not working..but onboard was an (extra) rather nice 2 burner portable propane stove with a CASE of 1 lb propane bottles). The only thing Ive tossed so far..was 4 rolls of toilet paper..and the remaining 6 should do us well enough (Grin) There is even a couple years supply of new portapotty chemicals. Bumpers, new dock lines, etc etc etc..even a very very good plastic 5 gallon fuel can for the outboard is tucked away in the under seat fuel locker. It even has the right fittings for hooking up to my 9.9 Sailmaster!! Upholstery is in excellent condition and the wet bits are sitting out in the rising sun as I type this. Im absolutely overjoyed!!! Photos to follow later today. Gunner https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...messages/42674 Here is the link to the start of the boat photos album. As I always do with each of my boats..Ill document everything that I do to it. This one wont take much work. She is pretty plain on the outside...Ive been sitting on the porch looking at her...she really needs some accent paint on her hull doesnt she? Humm..day-glo purple lightning bolts? Blazing yellow star bursts? And a name...she has to have a name. My wife came out and I asked her if I should name the boat "Mary Ellen"...as she kinda reminds me of my wife, fresh out of the shower...all white and smooth all over...and got swatted... (Grin) https://goo.gl/photos/gaFkPC11Zs9Qn54Z9 Now the rain appears to have quit..so its time to go out and pump her dry. Gunner I know exactly how she filled up. The boat was parked on a hill, stern down and the cockpit filled up with water, based on the water line..a steep diagnol on the sides of both the cockpit and the woodwork at the base of the sink. The hose connection to the sink was laying in that opening under the sink. Evidently the cockpit filled up..the water pressure forced the hose to slide off the pipe that the sink drains through and the water now sploosed into the cabin. There was a trash can sort of thing under the sink that stood taller than the water line in the cabin..and it was full of water..above the water covering the floor. They had a crap load of rain over the last 3 months, up there where she was parked and its shows that the cockpit had filled almost to the top at least once..probably more than once when the hose clamp let go and started the flood. Further rain simply ran into the cabin after that. There are a couple places where the wallpaper came loose..so I figured that was where the leak(s) were..but I found a "things to do note" in the bag holding the radios..and there was a notation to fix the loose wallpaper, back before the boat was parked 5-7 yrs ago. Boat has 2011 stickers on it...so it was parked around 2011ish. The previous owner was pretty good about getting stuff done and on time..so... He had done such a nice job restoring her..that I couldnt figure out where he had screwed up enough to let that much rain in. The cockpit drain ..I would never have thought they shared a thru hull. The only other thing that concerns me..is the knot meter. Under the V berth..there is a through hull fitting of white-ish/tan nylon/plastic with a thin chrome wire across it. Next to it ..laying underwater..is a matching tubular thingy with a spinning paddle wheel gizmo that appears...appears to screw into that through hull fitting. When she is dry..Ive got to figure out how it all works. I tend to get nervous about through hull fittings in tight places at the dead bottom of the boat. There is a plastic bag of "hammer into the leak " basswood hole plugs...but...cringe..Id hate to have to use one when a through hull came un****ed. Ive also got to find out where the fishfinder sender is. Im sure its bonded to the bottom of the boat somewhere...probably under the v-berth as well..but there is still 4+ inchs of water under there. So Ive got to continue to pump her dry in the morning and then get a fan in the small front hatch ,pulling air out..and a fan blowing across the wet stuff from the main hatchway. I will be making some small changes...I have zip use for a fishfinder that can't be seen from the cockpit, so will be machining another mount like this one that I did for thw Windrose/Laguna 18 and the Ensenada 20: https://goo.gl/photos/P8DkJGy3JvP2orp28 https://goo.gl/photos/95Ap6E8aPPsXqJgSA https://goo.gl/photos/1N58ZYeRWmffbLdPA https://goo.gl/photos/zuzknrhW2XkFAjT99 And mounting a full sized VHF marine radio and CB, as I did in the above photos..but on the left side, away from the stove top. Im not sure where the stereo will go. Probably under the stove, facing the bunk/seat. I was rather surprised there wasnt a am'/fm/cd player aboard. Shrug. They are $30 on Ebay for a decent "marine" unit. There are (2) pretty good sized 150 amp/hour deep discharge batteries mounted under the V berth. Fortunately they were above the water level, but they are also flat as a pancake for charge. The battery switch was turned OFF..but they may have sat flat for so long they might not come back up. I like mounting my batteries under the V berth..as it helps counterbalance the outboard and crew weight in the cockpit. Thats part of the TLC/Fiddly Bits, so Ill worry about it once the cabin is dry. Ill have to check and see how he ran wiring for his outboard..if there was any. My Sailmaster 9.9 has electric start and an alternator to charge the batts, so may have to run extra cable to a water proof outlet at the stern for that. Other stuff to follow...grin Gunner https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...s/messages/986 I know exactly how she filled up. The boat was parked on a hill, stern down and the cockpit filled up with water, based on the water line..a steep diagnol on the sides of both the cockpit and the woodwork at the base of the sink. The hose connection to the sink was laying in that opening under the sink. Evidently the cockpit filled up..the water pressure forced the hose to slide off the pipe that the sink drains through and the water now sploosed into the cabin. There was a trash can sort of thing under the sink that stood taller than the water line in the cabin..and it was full of water..above the water covering the floor. They had a crap load of rain over the last 3 months, up there where she was parked and its shows that the cockpit had filled almost to the top at least once..probably more than once when the hose clamp let go and started the flood. Further rain simply ran into the cabin after that. There are a couple places where the wallpaper came loose..so I figured that was where the leak(s) were..but I found a "things to do note" in the bag holding the radios..and there was a notation to fix the loose wallpaper, back before the boat was parked 5-7 yrs ago. Boat has 2011 stickers on it...so it was parked around 2011ish. The previous owner was pretty good about getting stuff done and on time..so... He had done such a nice job restoring her..that I couldnt figure out where he had screwed up enough to let that much rain in. The cockpit drain ..I would never have thought they shared a thru hull. The only other thing that concerns me..is the knot meter. Under the V berth..there is a through hull fitting of white-ish/tan nylon/plastic with a thin chrome wire across it. Next to it ..laying underwater..is a matching tubular thingy with a spinning paddle wheel gizmo that appears...appears to screw into that through hull fitting. When she is dry..Ive got to figure out how it all works. I tend to get nervous about through hull fittings in tight places at the dead bottom of the boat. There is a plastic bag of "hammer into the leak " basswood hole plugs...but...cringe..Id hate to have to use one when a through hull came un****ed. Ive also got to find out where the fishfinder transducer is. Im sure its bonded to the bottom of the boat somewhere...probably under the v-berth as well..but there is still 4+ inchs of water under there. So Ive got to continue to pump her dry in the morning and then get a fan in the small front hatch ,pulling air out..and a fan blowing across the wet stuff from the main hatchway. I will be making some small changes...I have zip use for a fishfinder that can't be seen from the cockpit, so will be machining another mount like this one that I did for the Windrose/Laguna 18 and the Ensenada 20: https://goo.gl/photos/P8DkJGy3JvP2orp28 https://goo.gl/photos/95Ap6E8aPPsXqJgSA https://goo.gl/photos/1N58ZYeRWmffbLdPA https://goo.gl/photos/zuzknrhW2XkFAjT99 And mounting a full sized VHF marine radio and CB, as I did in the above photos..but on the left side, away from the stove top. Im not sure where the stereo will go. Probably under the stove, facing the bunk/seat. I was rather surprised there wasnt a am'/fm/cd player aboard. Shrug. They are $30 on Ebay for a decent "marine" unit. There are (2) pretty good sized 150 amp/hour deep discharge batteries mounted under the V berth. Fortunately they were above the water level, but they are also flat as a pancake for charge. The battery switch was turned OFF..but they may have sat flat for so long they might not come back up. I like mounting my batteries under the V berth..as it helps counterbalance the outboard and crew weight in the cockpit. Thats part of the TLC/Fiddly Bits, so Ill worry about it once the cabin is dry. Ill have to check and see how he ran wiring for his outboard..if there was any. My Sailmaster 9.9 has electric start and an alternator to charge the batts, so may have to run extra cable to a water proof outlet at the stern for that. Other stuff to follow...grin Gunner --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr? Perhaps I might consider a pair, Bwahahaha! The guy who gets new liens filed against him annually for decades because he can't come up with a few hundred in property taxes, is talking about paying $600 for a pair of jeans! Could you be any more stupid? Who do you imagine will believe that malarkey? after all three of my leather riding pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter. Seriously, WTF? There is great doubt that you've ever ridden a motorcycle. It is a plain fact that you don't have any rideable motorcycle, and haven't since... probably forever. The likelihood of you ever affording any motorcycle other than old junk you pretend to "restore," may as well be zero. It has nothing to do with your age, and everything to do with your decision to spend so much of your life talking about doing, instead of doing. Then I might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end so the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat. Now you're talkin'. Your future, like your past, consists mostly of a whole lot of sitting around bull****ting. The classic rightard strategy to assure perpetual poverty. |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday. I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend. LOL. Reminds me of a ride I took up to Phx once for Az Bike week. Some event or another was happening first thing in the AM at a shop up that way. One of the counter guys was making fun of me and laughing because I showed in my full leathers. Finally I turned to him and said, "I rode 180 miles in the cold before breakfast to be here asshole. Most of these folks rode less than ten miles across town." |
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 09:18:37 -0800, Perfect Day wrote:
On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr? Perhaps I might consider a pair, Bwahahaha! The guy who gets new liens filed against him annually for decades because he can't come up with a few hundred in property taxes, is talking about paying $600 for a pair of jeans! Could you be any more stupid? Who do you imagine will believe that malarkey? after all three of my leather riding pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter. Seriously, WTF? There is great doubt that you've ever ridden a motorcycle. It is a plain fact that you don't have any rideable motorcycle, and haven't since... probably forever. The likelihood of you ever affording any motorcycle other than old junk you pretend to "restore," may as well be zero. It has nothing to do with your age, and everything to do with your decision to spend so much of your life talking about doing, instead of doing. Then I might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end so the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat. Now you're talkin'. Your future, like your past, consists mostly of a whole lot of sitting around bull****ting. The classic rightard strategy to assure perpetual poverty. (Grin) ROFLMAO!! Gunner --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Monday, March 6, 2017 at 11:11:52 AM UTC-5, Gunner Asch wrote:
I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the winches. r Gunner Spectra and Dyneema are almost the same. Spectra is made by 3M and Dyneema by a Dutch compang. But they are both UHMW polyethylene made by different processes. Dan |
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 10:43:59 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 09:18:37 -0800, Perfect Day wrote: On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr? Perhaps I might consider a pair, Bwahahaha! The guy who gets new liens filed against him annually for decades because he can't come up with a few hundred in property taxes, is talking about paying $600 for a pair of jeans! Could you be any more stupid? Who do you imagine will believe that malarkey? after all three of my leather riding pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter. Seriously, WTF? There is great doubt that you've ever ridden a motorcycle. It is a plain fact that you don't have any rideable motorcycle, and haven't since... probably forever. The likelihood of you ever affording any motorcycle other than old junk you pretend to "restore," may as well be zero. It has nothing to do with your age, and everything to do with your decision to spend so much of your life talking about doing, instead of doing. Then I might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end so the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat. Now you're talkin'. Your future, like your past, consists mostly of a whole lot of sitting around bull****ting. The classic rightard strategy to assure perpetual poverty. (Grin) ROFLMAO!! Gunner Seen my "new boat" pics? (Grin), pulled it home with the big ol E350 you claimed I didnt own. Or was that "a piece of junk"? You have made so many claims, I simply dont bother keeping tabs on them. Took me a month or so to rebuild the engine. Damnit. All that oil originally that was in it for the 20 yrs or so while it was parked, turned to scum and plugged off my mains and rod bearings. Changed the oil twice too. But it had plugged off the ports and journals. I should have run it for a while with a case full of diesel, after dumping the original oil. Sigh. Learned something. Got the Ranger up and running too, finally. And Im interviewing for some interesting jobs. Ive warned my remaining clients that I may not be around much longer..all the prospective jobs are within 40 miles of home. No more road warrior, on the road for days and weeks anymore! Yippie!!! In fact..just had a phone interview with one of the parent companies engineers at 9am. We had a good chat. Keeping my fingers crossed. You of course will still be retarded and on welfare. (Grin) But hey...feel free to keep spewing. And everyso often, I may reply to you. But...snicker...dont count on it. Ive other things that are far more amusing to do. You are simply a moment of amusement while waiting for my clothes to come out of the drier. (VBG) "I finally..finally..managed to go and get my FREE 1978 Aquarius 23, Saturday. After 6+ months of back and forth communications, heavy rains blocking the move, vehicle problems etc etc etc. This boat appears to be a 1978, flat backed transom, with an external rudder. The previous owner had been transferred from California to Alabama, fully intending to return and haul it back to Alabama, after parking it on a friends property in the foothills of the Sierras (Tehachapi, California). That was 7 or so years ago. He finally realized it was never going to happen..and through a long and very tedious period of time...I wound up with it. He had done a complete..complete restoration of the boat and trailer before parking it. New, high quality trailer tires, new paint inside and out, high end sails, fish finders, knot meters, stove, etc etc..and it sat..and sat..and sat. Prior to moving to Alabama..he had put all of his fishing and camping gear aboard. A pile of sleeping bags, gear, marine portable radios, scanners, flood lights, replacement and maintenance gear of all types, all neatly boxed in plastic tubs and packages, properly stored, properly marked, properly done. The man thinks like I think, he equips his boat just as I do.....its a bit scary how I stood there in the cabin..in the water (more in a minute) and told my buddy to lift that cushion and one should find X Y and Z in that bin..and sure as hell...it would be there. He equipped it for coastal sailing, stickers showed it hit the Catalina Island sailboat meets for almost 20 yrs in its life. Photos to be posted later today on my Google photo albums (link to be posted) The boat was sitting on its (Nice!) trailer on the side of a hill, stern downhill and I thought it a bit odd that I could lift the trailer tounge easily, but as we were under a deadline to get the boat hooked up, tires filled properly and then towed out of there before another rainstorm hit...didnt think much about it. Bear in mind...the mast was sitting secured over the hatchway, so we could only peer into the (tinted) windows and while we could see stuff piled up...we couldnt open up the boat until we got it back to my home, about 70 miles and 1.5 hours away. The boat towed...heavy..heavy as hell. But it didnt sway in the slightest. After a half mile or so of quick braking..the trailer brakes were free of rust and working properly and we towed her home. I did notice a bit of a surge when braking..but didnt think much of it...racing the rain. So we get the little girl back to my home, parked in a temporary spot..and I simply couldnt resist popping her open. I found a full 8"+ of water inside the boat. NO WONDER she towed heavy!! Crom!!..I had to be hauling at least 200 gallons of water..if not more. She had to weigh close to 5000 lbs with the trailer!! We have had a record amount of rain this year...but I dont know how so much got in there. Fortunately...the only damage discovered so far..as been some small areas of the (nice) internal hull covering has been loosened up and a small amount of swelling of cabin wood. Drawers are sticky to open etc. But Ill have to get this taken care of quick before permanent damage does occur. Im waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump and this morning Ill be pumping her out and putting in fans to dry her out. He had done such a nice restoration..that Im going to be keeping this lil girl. The paint is spotless (though a tiny bit oxidized..easy to simply wipe off), the winches are either new or very well reconditioned, etc etc. No spinnaker..but the genny, main and jib are minty, and the only thing of note..is the mast is rough..it was not reconditioned...aluminum oxidation, but NOT deep enough to weaken the mast in the slightest. So Ill be polishing the mast, putting new spreader tip covers where the old plastic is getting tired and dropping in a new 2 burner alcohol stove (his messages warned the existing one is not working..but onboard was an (extra) rather nice 2 burner portable propane stove with a CASE of 1 lb propane bottles). The only thing Ive tossed so far..was 4 rolls of toilet paper..and the remaining 6 should do us well enough (Grin) There is even a couple years supply of new portapotty chemicals. Bumpers, new dock lines, etc etc etc..even a very very good plastic 5 gallon fuel can for the outboard is tucked away in the under seat fuel locker. It even has the right fittings for hooking up to my 9.9 Sailmaster!! Upholstery is in excellent condition and the wet bits are sitting out in the rising sun as I type this." "Here is the link to the start of the boat photos album. As I always do with each of my boats..Ill document everything that I do to it. This one wont take much work. She is pretty plain on the outside...Ive been sitting on the porch looking at her...she really needs some accent paint on her hull doesnt she? Humm..day-glo purple lightning bolts? Blazing yellow star bursts? And a name...she has to have a name. My wife came out and I asked her if I should name the boat "Mary Ellen"...as she kinda reminds me of my wife, fresh out of the shower...all white and smooth all over...and got swatted... (Grin) https://goo.gl/photos/gaFkPC11Zs9Qn54Z9 Got my water pump chugging away draining the last of the water out Snerk! Arnt you the guy that had trouble with the Segway? Kept falling off of it while making your minimum wage security guard job? That was you, right? Almost time to go check the gas in the genset, then load my clean clothes and go back down south. Im moving a factory around and reorganizing their layout. Thank Crom for President Trump...business is starting to pick up again..even here in Californiastan. See ya! Or not. (VBG) Gunner --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:49:37 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Monday, March 6, 2017 at 11:11:52 AM UTC-5, Gunner Asch wrote: I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the winches. r Gunner Spectra and Dyneema are almost the same. Spectra is made by 3M and Dyneema by a Dutch compang. But they are both UHMW polyethylene made by different processes. Dan True. But one is stronger than the other. Spectra has been around a long time. I have a pair of Kelty backpacks that are made from Spectra. http://www.weasel.com/gear_kelty_spectra.html I see that Dyneema is starting to be used as backpack materials as well. https://www.hyperlitemountaingear.co...backpacks.html Ive several sets of sails made out of Spectra on some of my boats. Pricey as hell. But they last a hell of a lot longer than Mylar ones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailcloth The new Dyneema sail cloth has better elongation/creep resistance, probably do to weave and thread composition. Its gaining ground on Spectra in leaps and bounds. More than I can afford..but the rich guys love it. I ran across some of this line not long ago and was interested in it https://www.ropeinc.com/plasma-rope.html I think we are going to see a lot more of it in use before long. Gunner --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday. I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend. Dyneema is what some of the toughest ropes and lines on high end sailboats are made from. On many boats..its being used to do the jobs steel cable used to do. Sheets, halyards, centerboard hoists etc. Fascinating to see it being used in this fashion. That was some very good application usage thinking outside of the box. That stuff has a higher strength rating than steel cable. So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr? Perhaps I might consider a pair, after all three of my leather riding pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter. Then I might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end so the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat. I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the winches. Good Gracious, why would you want Spectra lines on your boats. After all you never put them in the water. Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip. "Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep. Gunner Another free boat parked in the yard? What's the matter? the old trailer wearing out and you are going to lice in a boat.... parked in the yard. -- Cheers, Schweik |
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:47:08 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the winches. Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip. "Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep. Gunner https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...messages/42671 I finally..finally..managed to go and get my FREE 1978 Aquarius 23, Saturday. After 6+ months of back and forth communications, heavy rains blocking the move, vehicle problems etc etc etc. This boat appears to be a 1978, flat backed transom, with an external rudder. The previous owner had been transferred from California to Alabama, fully intending to return and haul it back to Alabama, after parking it on a friends property in the foothills of the Sierras (Tehachapi, California). That was 7 or so years ago. He finally realized it was never going to happen..and through a long and very tedious period of time...I wound up with it. He had done a complete..complete restoration of the boat and trailer before parking it. New, high quality trailer tires, new paint inside and out, high end sails, fish finders, knot meters, stove, etc etc..and it sat..and sat..and sat. Prior to moving to Alabama..he had put all of his fishing and camping gear aboard. A pile of sleeping bags, gear, marine portable radios, scanners, flood lights, replacement and maintenance gear of all types, all neatly boxed in plastic tubs and packages, properly stored, properly marked, properly done. The man thinks like I think, he equips his boat just as I do.....its a bit scary how I stood there in the cabin..in the water (more in a minute) and told my buddy to lift that cushion and one should find X Y and Z in that bin..and sure as hell...it would be there. He equipped it for coastal sailing, stickers showed it hit the Catalina Island sailboat meets for almost 20 yrs in its life. Photos to be posted later today on my Google photo albums (link to be posted) The boat was sitting on its (Nice!) trailer on the side of a hill, stern downhill and I thought it a bit odd that I could lift the trailer tounge easily, but as we were under a deadline to get the boat hooked up, tires filled properly and then towed out of there before another rainstorm hit...didnt think much about it. Bear in mind...the mast was sitting secured over the hatchway, so we could only peer into the (tinted) windows and while we could see stuff piled up...we couldnt open up the boat until we got it back to my home, about 70 miles and 1.5 hours away. The boat towed...heavy..heavy as hell. But it didnt sway in the slightest. After a half mile or so of quick braking..the trailer brakes were free of rust and working properly and we towed her home. I did notice a bit of a surge when braking..but didnt think much of it...racing the rain. So we get the little girl back to my home, parked in a temporary spot..and I simply couldnt resist popping her open. I found a full 8"+ of water inside the boat. NO WONDER she towed heavy!! Crom!!..I had to be hauling at least 200 gallons of water..if not more. She had to weigh close to 5000 lbs with the trailer!! We have had a record amount of rain this year...but I dont know how so much got in there. Fortunately...the only damage discovered so far..as been some small areas of the (nice) internal hull covering has been loosened up and a small amount of swelling of cabin wood. Drawers are sticky to open etc. But Ill have to get this taken care of quick before permanent damage does occur. Im waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump and this morning Ill be pumping her out and putting in fans to dry her out. Good Gracious. "I'm waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump". A boat with no bilge pump? You really are a sailor, aren't you. Or maybe you just walk on the water when the boat fills up with water and sinks. (Or maybe you just light that string of firecrackers and listen to the "bang, bang. bang". -- Cheers, Schweik |
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Gunner Asch on Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip. "Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep. Nothing so expensive as a Free Boat. B-) -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone." |
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On Monday, March 6, 2017 at 2:12:07 PM UTC-5, Gunner Asch wrote:
Took me a month or so to rebuild the engine. Damnit. All that oil originally that was in it for the 20 yrs or so while it was parked, turned to scum and plugged off my mains and rod bearings. Changed the oil twice too. But it had plugged off the ports and journals. I should have run it for a while with a case full of diesel, after dumping the original oil. Sigh. Learned something. THAT's what you call a "REBUILD?" Taking an engine apart and putting it back together without even checking the oil passages doesn't qualify as any sort of rebuild. The incredible part is that Gummer is too stupid to even be embarrassed by this, after all the years of touting his mechanical prowess. Pffft. |
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 23:31:31 -0800 (PST), rangerssuck
wrote: On Monday, March 6, 2017 at 2:12:07 PM UTC-5, Gunner Asch wrote: Took me a month or so to rebuild the engine. Damnit. All that oil originally that was in it for the 20 yrs or so while it was parked, turned to scum and plugged off my mains and rod bearings. Changed the oil twice too. But it had plugged off the ports and journals. I should have run it for a while with a case full of diesel, after dumping the original oil. Sigh. Learned something. THAT's what you call a "REBUILD?" Taking an engine apart and putting it back together without even checking the oil passages doesn't qualify as any sort of rebuild. The incredible part is that Gummer is too stupid to even be embarrassed by this, after all the years of touting his mechanical prowess. Pffft. Good Gracious. When you are working with gunner's talent it is probable that checking the oil about maxed him out for the day. -- Cheers, Schweik |
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 11:11:30 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: Took me a month or so to rebuild the engine. You didn't "rebuild" anything. And it's still junk. In fact..just had a phone interview with one of the parent companies engineers at 9am. We had a good chat. Post the name and I'll email them a link to the Wieber Cliff Notes. As if they won't be smart enough to find them when they google your name. Keeping my fingers crossed. LOL That ain't going to make up for your lifetime of BS. "I finally..finally..managed to go and get my FREE 1978 Aquarius 23, Translation: wasted more of my life dragging home a waterlogged pretend-yacht to hoard. Have fun sitting in it on the trailer and wearing your Thurston Howell cap. Thank Crom for President Trump...business is starting to pick up again..even here in Californiastan. Oh brother. Instead of taking your word, it makes a whole lot more sense to keep checking up on your new liens to measure Trump's performance. This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus What email, gasbag? |
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:36:12 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday. I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend. LOL. Reminds me of a ride I took up to Phx once for Az Bike week. Some event or another was happening first thing in the AM at a shop up that way. One of the counter guys was making fun of me and laughing because I showed in my full leathers. Finally I turned to him and said, "I rode 180 miles in the cold before breakfast to be here asshole. Most of these folks rode less than ten miles across town." I find that generally (as in, not exclusively), the level of leatherification is inversely proportional to the seriousness of the rider. Case in point, Wieber blubbering about his "leathers" to go with his motionless backyard scrap iron, and his phony "million miles" of "scooter" riding. What most of them ARE serious about though is projecting an image. What they don't realize is that their outfit, particularly when combined with a 60 hp behemoth and fringes, is pretty goddamned funny. When it includes chaps, fingerless gloves and a bare head, it's beyond hilarious, and reminds me of alternatively of Cyndi Lauper and Liberace, which probably isn't what they had in mind. Most of them don't venture out in the rain, but if they get caught in it and can't find an overpass to cower under, they look like wet dogs decorated with chamois. BTW, for cold and wet, I wear a 35 year old waterproof Belstaff suit. The synthetic type, not waxed cotton. With various layers and a heated vest underneath. Behind a full fairing and an electric windshield. |
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday. I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend. Dyneema is what some of the toughest ropes and lines on high end sailboats are made from. On many boats..its being used to do the jobs steel cable used to do. Sheets, halyards, centerboard hoists etc. Fascinating to see it being used in this fashion. That was some very good application usage thinking outside of the box. That stuff has a higher strength rating than steel cable. So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr? Perhaps I might consider a pair, after all three of my leather riding pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter. Then I might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end so the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat. Har! I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the winches. Spectra's good, rugged stuff, Maynard. If you do buy stainless cable, buy a 100' hank. Much cheaper that way. (Often cheaper to buy 100 than 50. When affordable, that is.) Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip. "Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep. Ten or fewer gallons of gas is $25, plus half a day, so you're not out much at all. Cool. Did you get my email yesterday? -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour |
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:47:08 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: I found a full 8"+ of water inside the boat. NO WONDER she towed heavy!! Crom!!..I had to be hauling at least 200 gallons of water..if not more. She had to weigh close to 5000 lbs with the trailer!! You didn't do a very good pre-flight walkaround, did you, son? What if you had been pulled over (for heavy weaving, etc.)and found the cockpit full of bales of pot? You didn't see that weight in the tires? Tsk, tsk. I will be making some small changes...I have zip use for a fishfinder that can't be seen from the cockpit, so will be machining another mount like this one that I did for thw Windrose/Laguna 18 and the Ensenada 20: https://goo.gl/photos/P8DkJGy3JvP2orp28 Requires group membership, even though I had already been forced to sign in to Yahoo. sigh -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour |
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"Perfect Day" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:36:12 -0700, "Bob La Londe" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday. I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend. LOL. Reminds me of a ride I took up to Phx once for Az Bike week. Some event or another was happening first thing in the AM at a shop up that way. One of the counter guys was making fun of me and laughing because I showed in my full leathers. Finally I turned to him and said, "I rode 180 miles in the cold before breakfast to be here asshole. Most of these folks rode less than ten miles across town." BTW, for cold and wet, I wear a 35 year old waterproof Belstaff suit. The synthetic type, not waxed cotton. With various layers and a heated vest underneath. Behind a full fairing and an electric windshield. I've always favored my Frogg Toggs and an HJC flip up full face helmet for rain runs. I noticed the other day my Frogg Toggs are getting a little wore out and need to be replaced. Nice thing about the Frogg Toggs is they do a nice job for inclement weather tournament fishing too. Pull them on over my Ridgeline jacket and I am good to fish in driving sleet, and have. |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday. I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend. Dyneema is what some of the toughest ropes and lines on high end sailboats are made from. On many boats..its being used to do the jobs steel cable used to do. Sheets, halyards, centerboard hoists etc. Fascinating to see it being used in this fashion. That was some very good application usage thinking outside of the box. That stuff has a higher strength rating than steel cable. So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr? Perhaps I might consider a pair, after all three of my leather riding pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter. Then I might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end so the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat. Har! I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the winches. Spectra's good, rugged stuff, Maynard. Which of those would last as antenna guy lines? I'm running low on Woodstock 80 lb braided Dacron and plan to buy 500 yards of whatever is suitable for 5 years in the sun without being too expensive when the stores restock for spring. -jsw |
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Jim Wilkins wrote:
Which of those would last as antenna guy lines? I'm running low on Woodstock 80 lb braided Dacron and plan to buy 500 yards of whatever is suitable for 5 years in the sun without being too expensive when the stores restock for spring. http://www.phillystran.com/ supplies guylines for real antennas. Hams and broadcasters both use it. -- Never **** off an Engineer! They don't get mad. They don't get even. They go for over unity! ;-) |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
... Jim Wilkins wrote: Which of those would last as antenna guy lines? I'm running low on Woodstock 80 lb braided Dacron and plan to buy 500 yards of whatever is suitable for 5 years in the sun without being too expensive when the stores restock for spring. http://www.phillystran.com/ supplies guylines for real antennas. Hams and broadcasters both use it. The sturdy fixed lower portion of my telescoping antenna mast uses real guy line from a hamfest. This is for the impossibly thin looking sliding upper section which lacks the column rigidity to support iced-up 3/16" lines. Yesterday I found a local source for 80 lb Woodstock who is cheaper than Amazon. |
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On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 06:30:08 +0700,
wrote: Im waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump and this morning Ill be pumping her out and putting in fans to dry her out. Good Gracious. "I'm waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump". A boat with no bilge pump? Good Gracious! A trailer sailer with a bilge pump? Whatever for? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 19:03:56 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote: Gunner Asch on Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip. "Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep. Nothing so expensive as a Free Boat. B-) -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone." Its been stated with some rational..that a boat is nothing more than a hole in the water you throw money into. (Grin) But they are fun! --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 07:46:13 -0800, Perfect Day wrote:
On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:36:12 -0700, "Bob La Londe" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday. I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend. LOL. Reminds me of a ride I took up to Phx once for Az Bike week. Some event or another was happening first thing in the AM at a shop up that way. One of the counter guys was making fun of me and laughing because I showed in my full leathers. Finally I turned to him and said, "I rode 180 miles in the cold before breakfast to be here asshole. Most of these folks rode less than ten miles across town." I find that generally (as in, not exclusively), the level of leatherification is inversely proportional to the seriousness of the rider. Case in point, Wieber blubbering about his "leathers" to go with his motionless backyard scrap iron, and his phony "million miles" of "scooter" riding. What most of them ARE serious about though is projecting an image. What they don't realize is that their outfit, particularly when combined with a 60 hp behemoth and fringes, is pretty goddamned funny. When it includes chaps, fingerless gloves and a bare head, it's beyond hilarious, and reminds me of alternatively of Cyndi Lauper and Liberace, which probably isn't what they had in mind. Most of them don't venture out in the rain, but if they get caught in it and can't find an overpass to cower under, they look like wet dogs decorated with chamois. BTW, for cold and wet, I wear a 35 year old waterproof Belstaff suit. The synthetic type, not waxed cotton. With various layers and a heated vest underneath. Behind a full fairing and an electric windshield. So how many minutes on the ride do you get for a quarter? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 10:00:45 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema? http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/ Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers . At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday. I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend. Dyneema is what some of the toughest ropes and lines on high end sailboats are made from. On many boats..its being used to do the jobs steel cable used to do. Sheets, halyards, centerboard hoists etc. Fascinating to see it being used in this fashion. That was some very good application usage thinking outside of the box. That stuff has a higher strength rating than steel cable. So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr? Perhaps I might consider a pair, after all three of my leather riding pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter. Then I might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end so the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat. Har! I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the winches. Spectra's good, rugged stuff, Maynard. If you do buy stainless cable, buy a 100' hank. Much cheaper that way. (Often cheaper to buy 100 than 50. When affordable, that is.) Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip. "Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep. Ten or fewer gallons of gas is $25, plus half a day, so you're not out much at all. Cool. Did you get my email yesterday? Did I respond to it? I got home about 3 hours ago and am drifting from awake to twilite and back again. Dogs at my feet, a pup in my lap and drifting. Tough (but profitable) week. Good to see business picking up a smidge. I was gone all 5 days this time. Gunner --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 10:14:03 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 07:46:13 -0800, Perfect Day wrote: BTW, for cold and wet, I wear a 35 year old waterproof Belstaff suit. The synthetic type, not waxed cotton. With various layers and a heated vest underneath. Behind a full fairing and an electric windshield. So how many minutes on the ride do you get for a quarter? Oooh, I am so insulted. Fun facts, Wieber: I've ridden farther on a single trip than you have in your entire life. And see if you can grok this - all the dozens of bikes I've owned over the years have had license plates and insurance! As in, actually rideable. How many decades have you been pretending to be in the process of "restoring" that junk you rescued from the dumpster? Who do you think believes your stories about riding a million miles, or that you will ever actually ride a motorcycle instead of making up stories about riding? This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus What email? Everyone knows you're galactically pigheaded. No need to work so hard to keep proving yourself. |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 10:12:23 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 19:03:56 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote: Gunner Asch on Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip. "Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep. Nothing so expensive as a Free Boat. B-) -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone." Its been stated with some rational..that a boat is nothing more than a hole in the water you throw money into. (Grin) In your case, what money would that be? But they are fun! The most fun is watching you pretend you'll someday move from the trailer to the water. This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus What email? Just another thing you don't know how to fix. |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 10:11:15 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 06:30:08 +0700, wrote: Im waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump and this morning Ill be pumping her out and putting in fans to dry her out. Good Gracious. "I'm waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump". A boat with no bilge pump? Good Gracious! A trailer sailer with a bilge pump? Whatever for? I agree with you. You will never need a bilge pump on a trailer sailor... unless you put the boat in the water. -- Cheers, John B. |
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