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Larry Jaques[_4_] March 4th 17 04:41 AM

Work Clothes
 
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are
hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn
biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/

--
Self-development is a higher duty than self-sacrifice.
-- Elizabeth Cady Stanton

Terry Coombs[_2_] March 4th 17 02:09 PM

Work Clothes
 
Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are
hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn
biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/


Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .
--
Snag



Larry Jaques[_4_] March 4th 17 04:28 PM

Work Clothes
 
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are
hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn
biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/


Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .


At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a
set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see
them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend.

--
Happiness is not a station you arrive at, but a manner of traveling.
-- Margaret Lee Runbeck

Terry Coombs[_2_] March 4th 17 06:29 PM

Work Clothes
 
Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us
are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol
durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/


Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes
in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice set of leathers .


At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a
set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see
them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend.


I'm actually going to use those leathers today . Going to the Ozark Seed
Swap in a little while . I've gotten a lot of fairly uncommon varieties of
veggies and stuff , all acclimatized to our area . And since I took the
Ultra to the likker store yesterday I plan to ride the Ol' Lady's Sportster
trike . The long way ...
--
Snag



[email protected] March 4th 17 10:39 PM

Work Clothes
 
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:09:34 AM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:

Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .
--
Snag


I probably do spend $600 on clothes in ten years. I frequent the local Salvation Army and buy shirts, jackets , and cashmere sweaters there. But pass on buying jeans. I buy them from Walmart for less than $10. For some reason I wear out the left knee on the blue jeans. I tried to fix that with some Kevlar, but it just is not worth the effort.

Dan


Gunner Asch[_6_] March 5th 17 02:19 PM

Work Clothes
 
On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are
hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn
biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/


Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .


At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a
set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see
them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend.


Dyneema is what some of the toughest ropes and lines on high end
sailboats are made from. On many boats..its being used to do the
jobs steel cable used to do. Sheets, halyards, centerboard hoists etc.
Fascinating to see it being used in this fashion. That was some very
good application usage thinking outside of the box. That stuff has a
higher strength rating than steel cable.

Gunner

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RangersSuck March 5th 17 03:03 PM

Work Clothes
 
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 4:39:32 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:09:34 AM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:

Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .
--
Snag


I probably do spend $600 on clothes in ten years. I frequent the local Salvation Army and buy shirts, jackets , and cashmere sweaters there. But pass on buying jeans. I buy them from Walmart for less than $10. For some reason I wear out the left knee on the blue jeans. I tried to fix that with some Kevlar, but it just is not worth the effort.

Dan


Interesting. I always wear out the right knee before the left - something to do with politics maybe? Recently, though, I've been being more conscientious about using kneepads.

Also, for a lot of my factory work, I've switched to Duluth Firehose pants. Yes, they're expensive, but they are tough as nails, comfortable, fit well, have lots of pockets and come clean in the wash.

RangersSuck March 5th 17 03:05 PM

Work Clothes
 
On Sunday, March 5, 2017 at 9:03:44 AM UTC-5, rangerssuck wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 4:39:32 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:09:34 AM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:

Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .
--
Snag


I probably do spend $600 on clothes in ten years. I frequent the local Salvation Army and buy shirts, jackets , and cashmere sweaters there. But pass on buying jeans. I buy them from Walmart for less than $10. For some reason I wear out the left knee on the blue jeans. I tried to fix that with some Kevlar, but it just is not worth the effort.

Dan


Interesting. I always wear out the right knee before the left - something to do with politics maybe? Recently, though, I've been being more conscientious about using kneepads.

Also, for a lot of my factory work, I've switched to Duluth Firehose pants. Yes, they're expensive, but they are tough as nails, comfortable, fit well, have lots of pockets and come clean in the wash.


Also, I buy T-shirts at Goodwill for $.49 each. Usually brand new.

[email protected] March 5th 17 09:41 PM

Work Clothes
 
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 4:39:32 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:09:34 AM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:

Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .
--
Snag


I probably do spend $600 on clothes in ten years. I frequent the local Salvation Army and buy shirts, jackets ,
and cashmere sweaters there. But pass on buying jeans. I buy them from Walmart for less than $10. For
some reason I wear out the left knee on the blue jeans. I tried to fix that with some Kevlar, but it just is not
worth the effort.


I had that happen. When i'd get out of the driver's side my left knee would always touch the door.


Larry Jaques[_4_] March 6th 17 12:04 AM

Work Clothes
 
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 11:29:44 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us
are hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol
durn biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/

Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes
in 10 years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice set of leathers .


At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a
set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see
them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend.


I'm actually going to use those leathers today . Going to the Ozark Seed
Swap in a little while . I've gotten a lot of fairly uncommon varieties of
veggies and stuff , all acclimatized to our area .


Seed Swap: an extremely good thing for acclimatized heirloom
varieties. Great!


And since I took the
Ultra to the likker store yesterday I plan to ride the Ol' Lady's Sportster
trike . The long way ...


You reckon ta carry -that- many seeds back, boy?

Of you come across any diesel motocross bikes for free, keep me in
mind, will ya?

I had to laugh at this one, in comparison to the USMC bike:
http://tinyurl.com/jle6rww

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JPKCVXY0P0
http://rx.iscdn.net/2013/09/60211_diesel.jpg

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour

Larry Jaques[_4_] March 6th 17 12:05 AM

Work Clothes
 
On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are
hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn
biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/

Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .


At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a
set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see
them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend.


Dyneema is what some of the toughest ropes and lines on high end
sailboats are made from. On many boats..its being used to do the
jobs steel cable used to do. Sheets, halyards, centerboard hoists etc.
Fascinating to see it being used in this fashion. That was some very
good application usage thinking outside of the box. That stuff has a
higher strength rating than steel cable.


So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr?

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 6th 17 05:11 PM

Work Clothes
 
On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are
hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn
biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/

Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .

At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a
set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see
them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend.


Dyneema is what some of the toughest ropes and lines on high end
sailboats are made from. On many boats..its being used to do the
jobs steel cable used to do. Sheets, halyards, centerboard hoists etc.
Fascinating to see it being used in this fashion. That was some very
good application usage thinking outside of the box. That stuff has a
higher strength rating than steel cable.


So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr?


Perhaps I might consider a pair, after all three of my leather riding
pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill
probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter. Then I
might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end so
the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat.

I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I
use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well
enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the
stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my
trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the
winches.

Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it
for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip.
"Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep.

Gunner

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Gunner Asch[_6_] March 6th 17 05:47 PM

Work Clothes
 
On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:


I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I
use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well
enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the
stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my
trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the
winches.

Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it
for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip.
"Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep.

Gunner


https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...messages/42671

I finally..finally..managed to go and get my FREE 1978 Aquarius 23,
Saturday. After 6+ months of back and forth communications, heavy
rains blocking the move, vehicle problems etc etc etc.

This boat appears to be a 1978, flat backed transom, with an external
rudder. The previous owner had been transferred from California to
Alabama, fully intending to return and haul it back to Alabama, after
parking it on a friends property in the foothills of the Sierras
(Tehachapi, California). That was 7 or so years ago. He finally
realized it was never going to happen..and through a long and very
tedious period of time...I wound up with it. He had done a
complete..complete restoration of the boat and trailer before parking
it. New, high quality trailer tires, new paint inside and out, high
end sails, fish finders, knot meters, stove, etc etc..and it sat..and
sat..and sat. Prior to moving to Alabama..he had put all of his
fishing and camping gear aboard. A pile of sleeping bags, gear, marine
portable radios, scanners, flood lights, replacement and maintenance
gear of all types, all neatly boxed in plastic tubs and packages,
properly stored, properly marked, properly done.

The man thinks like I think, he equips his boat just as I do.....its a
bit scary how I stood there in the cabin..in the water (more in a
minute) and told my buddy to lift that cushion and one should find X Y
and Z in that bin..and sure as hell...it would be there. He equipped
it for coastal sailing, stickers showed it hit the Catalina Island
sailboat meets for almost 20 yrs in its life.

Photos to be posted later today on my Google photo albums (link to be
posted)

The boat was sitting on its (Nice!) trailer on the side of a hill,
stern downhill and I thought it a bit odd that I could lift the
trailer tounge easily, but as we were under a deadline to get the boat
hooked up, tires filled properly and then towed out of there before
another rainstorm hit...didnt think much about it. Bear in mind...the
mast was sitting secured over the hatchway, so we could only peer into
the (tinted) windows and while we could see stuff piled up...we
couldnt open up the boat until we got it back to my home, about 70
miles and 1.5 hours away. The boat towed...heavy..heavy as hell. But
it didnt sway in the slightest. After a half mile or so of quick
braking..the trailer brakes were free of rust and working properly and
we towed her home. I did notice a bit of a surge when braking..but
didnt think much of it...racing the rain.

So we get the little girl back to my home, parked in a temporary
spot..and I simply couldnt resist popping her open.

I found a full 8"+ of water inside the boat. NO WONDER she towed
heavy!! Crom!!..I had to be hauling at least 200 gallons of water..if
not more. She had to weigh close to 5000 lbs with the trailer!!

We have had a record amount of rain this year...but I dont know how so
much got in there. Fortunately...the only damage discovered so
far..as been some small areas of the (nice) internal hull covering
has been loosened up and a small amount of swelling of cabin wood.
Drawers are sticky to open etc. But Ill have to get this taken care of
quick before permanent damage does occur.

Im waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump and this morning Ill be
pumping her out and putting in fans to dry her out.

He had done such a nice restoration..that Im going to be keeping this
lil girl. The paint is spotless (though a tiny bit oxidized..easy to
simply wipe off), the winches are either new or very well
reconditioned, etc etc. No spinnaker..but the genny, main and jib are
minty, and the only thing of note..is the mast is rough..it was not
reconditioned...aluminum oxidation, but NOT deep enough to weaken the
mast in the slightest. So Ill be polishing the mast, putting new
spreader tip covers where the old plastic is getting tired and
dropping in a new 2 burner alcohol stove (his messages warned the
existing one is not working..but onboard was an (extra) rather nice 2
burner portable propane stove with a CASE of 1 lb propane bottles).
The only thing Ive tossed so far..was 4 rolls of toilet paper..and the
remaining 6 should do us well enough (Grin) There is even a couple
years supply of new portapotty chemicals. Bumpers, new dock lines,
etc etc etc..even a very very good plastic 5 gallon fuel can for the
outboard is tucked away in the under seat fuel locker. It even has
the right fittings for hooking up to my 9.9 Sailmaster!! Upholstery is
in excellent condition and the wet bits are sitting out in the rising
sun as I type this.

Im absolutely overjoyed!!!

Photos to follow later today.

Gunner

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...messages/42674

Here is the link to the start of the boat photos album. As I always do
with each of my boats..Ill document everything that I do to it. This
one wont take much work. She is pretty plain on the outside...Ive
been sitting on the porch looking at her...she really needs some
accent paint on her hull doesnt she? Humm..day-glo purple lightning
bolts? Blazing yellow star bursts? And a name...she has to have a
name. My wife came out and I asked her if I should name the boat
"Mary Ellen"...as she kinda reminds me of my wife, fresh out of the
shower...all white and smooth all over...and got swatted... (Grin)

https://goo.gl/photos/gaFkPC11Zs9Qn54Z9

Now the rain appears to have quit..so its time to go out and pump her
dry.

Gunner


I know exactly how she filled up. The boat was parked on a hill,
stern down and the cockpit filled up with water, based on the water
line..a steep diagnol on the sides of both the cockpit and the
woodwork at the base of the sink. The hose connection to the sink was
laying in that opening under the sink. Evidently the cockpit filled
up..the water pressure forced the hose to slide off the pipe that the
sink drains through and the water now sploosed into the cabin. There
was a trash can sort of thing under the sink that stood taller than
the water line in the cabin..and it was full of water..above the water
covering the floor. They had a crap load of rain over the last 3
months, up there where she was parked and its shows that the cockpit
had filled almost to the top at least once..probably more than once
when the hose clamp let go and started the flood. Further rain simply
ran into the cabin after that.

There are a couple places where the wallpaper came loose..so I
figured that was where the leak(s) were..but I found a "things to do
note" in the bag holding the radios..and there was a notation to fix
the loose wallpaper, back before the boat was parked 5-7 yrs ago. Boat
has 2011 stickers on it...so it was parked around 2011ish. The
previous owner was pretty good about getting stuff done and on
time..so... He had done such a nice job restoring her..that I couldnt
figure out where he had screwed up enough to let that much rain in.
The cockpit drain ..I would never have thought they shared a thru
hull.

The only other thing that concerns me..is the knot meter. Under the V
berth..there is a through hull fitting of white-ish/tan nylon/plastic
with a thin chrome wire across it. Next to it ..laying underwater..is
a matching tubular thingy with a spinning paddle wheel gizmo that
appears...appears to screw into that through hull fitting. When she
is dry..Ive got to figure out how it all works. I tend to get nervous
about through hull fittings in tight places at the dead bottom of the
boat. There is a plastic bag of "hammer into the leak " basswood
hole plugs...but...cringe..Id hate to have to use one when a through
hull came un****ed. Ive also got to find out where the fishfinder
sender is. Im sure its bonded to the bottom of the boat
somewhere...probably under the v-berth as well..but there is still 4+
inchs of water under there. So Ive got to continue to pump her dry in
the morning and then get a fan in the small front hatch ,pulling air
out..and a fan blowing across the wet stuff from the main hatchway.

I will be making some small changes...I have zip use for a fishfinder
that can't be seen from the cockpit, so will be machining another
mount like this one that I did for thw Windrose/Laguna 18 and the
Ensenada 20:

https://goo.gl/photos/P8DkJGy3JvP2orp28
https://goo.gl/photos/95Ap6E8aPPsXqJgSA
https://goo.gl/photos/1N58ZYeRWmffbLdPA
https://goo.gl/photos/zuzknrhW2XkFAjT99

And mounting a full sized VHF marine radio and CB, as I did in the
above photos..but on the left side, away from the stove top.
Im not sure where the stereo will go. Probably under the stove, facing
the bunk/seat. I was rather surprised there wasnt a am'/fm/cd player
aboard. Shrug. They are $30 on Ebay for a decent "marine" unit.

There are (2) pretty good sized 150 amp/hour deep discharge batteries
mounted under the V berth. Fortunately they were above the water
level, but they are also flat as a pancake for charge. The battery
switch was turned OFF..but they may have sat flat for so long they
might not come back up.
I like mounting my batteries under the V berth..as it helps
counterbalance the outboard and crew weight in the cockpit.
Thats part of the TLC/Fiddly Bits, so Ill worry about it once the
cabin is dry.

Ill have to check and see how he ran wiring for his outboard..if there
was any. My Sailmaster 9.9 has electric start and an alternator to
charge the batts, so may have to run extra cable to a water proof
outlet at the stern for that.

Other stuff to follow...grin

Gunner

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...s/messages/986

I know exactly how she filled up. The boat was parked on a hill,
stern down and the cockpit filled up with water, based on the water
line..a steep diagnol on the sides of both the cockpit and the
woodwork at the base of the sink. The hose connection to the sink was
laying in that opening under the sink. Evidently the cockpit filled
up..the water pressure forced the hose to slide off the pipe that the
sink drains through and the water now sploosed into the cabin. There
was a trash can sort of thing under the sink that stood taller than
the water line in the cabin..and it was full of water..above the water
covering the floor. They had a crap load of rain over the last 3
months, up there where she was parked and its shows that the cockpit
had filled almost to the top at least once..probably more than once
when the hose clamp let go and started the flood. Further rain simply
ran into the cabin after that.

There are a couple places where the wallpaper came loose..so I
figured that was where the leak(s) were..but I found a "things to do
note" in the bag holding the radios..and there was a notation to fix
the loose wallpaper, back before the boat was parked 5-7 yrs ago. Boat
has 2011 stickers on it...so it was parked around 2011ish. The
previous owner was pretty good about getting stuff done and on
time..so... He had done such a nice job restoring her..that I couldnt
figure out where he had screwed up enough to let that much rain in.
The cockpit drain ..I would never have thought they shared a thru
hull.

The only other thing that concerns me..is the knot meter. Under the V
berth..there is a through hull fitting of white-ish/tan nylon/plastic
with a thin chrome wire across it. Next to it ..laying underwater..is
a matching tubular thingy with a spinning paddle wheel gizmo that
appears...appears to screw into that through hull fitting. When she
is dry..Ive got to figure out how it all works. I tend to get nervous
about through hull fittings in tight places at the dead bottom of the
boat. There is a plastic bag of "hammer into the leak " basswood
hole plugs...but...cringe..Id hate to have to use one when a through
hull came un****ed. Ive also got to find out where the fishfinder
transducer is. Im sure its bonded to the bottom of the boat
somewhere...probably under the v-berth as well..but there is still 4+
inchs of water under there. So Ive got to continue to pump her dry in
the morning and then get a fan in the small front hatch ,pulling air
out..and a fan blowing across the wet stuff from the main hatchway.

I will be making some small changes...I have zip use for a fishfinder
that can't be seen from the cockpit, so will be machining another
mount like this one that I did for the Windrose/Laguna 18 and the
Ensenada 20:

https://goo.gl/photos/P8DkJGy3JvP2orp28
https://goo.gl/photos/95Ap6E8aPPsXqJgSA
https://goo.gl/photos/1N58ZYeRWmffbLdPA
https://goo.gl/photos/zuzknrhW2XkFAjT99

And mounting a full sized VHF marine radio and CB, as I did in the
above photos..but on the left side, away from the stove top.
Im not sure where the stereo will go. Probably under the stove, facing
the bunk/seat. I was rather surprised there wasnt a am'/fm/cd player
aboard. Shrug. They are $30 on Ebay for a decent "marine" unit.

There are (2) pretty good sized 150 amp/hour deep discharge batteries
mounted under the V berth. Fortunately they were above the water
level, but they are also flat as a pancake for charge. The battery
switch was turned OFF..but they may have sat flat for so long they
might not come back up.
I like mounting my batteries under the V berth..as it helps
counterbalance the outboard and crew weight in the cockpit.
Thats part of the TLC/Fiddly Bits, so Ill worry about it once the
cabin is dry.

Ill have to check and see how he ran wiring for his outboard..if there
was any. My Sailmaster 9.9 has electric start and an alternator to
charge the batts, so may have to run extra cable to a water proof
outlet at the stern for that.

Other stuff to follow...grin

Gunner

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:


So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr?


Perhaps I might consider a pair,


Bwahahaha! The guy who gets new liens filed against him annually for
decades because he can't come up with a few hundred in property taxes,
is talking about paying $600 for a pair of jeans! Could you be any
more stupid? Who do you imagine will believe that malarkey?

after all three of my leather riding
pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill
probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter.


Seriously, WTF? There is great doubt that you've ever ridden a
motorcycle. It is a plain fact that you don't have any rideable
motorcycle, and haven't since... probably forever. The likelihood of
you ever affording any motorcycle other than old junk you pretend to
"restore," may as well be zero. It has nothing to do with your age,
and everything to do with your decision to spend so much of your life
talking about doing, instead of doing.

Then I
might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end so
the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat.


Now you're talkin'. Your future, like your past, consists mostly of a
whole lot of sitting around bull****ting. The classic rightard
strategy to assure perpetual poverty.

Bob La Londe[_7_] March 6th 17 06:36 PM

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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are
hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn
biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/


Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .


At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a
set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see
them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend.


LOL. Reminds me of a ride I took up to Phx once for Az Bike week. Some
event or another was happening first thing in the AM at a shop up that way.
One of the counter guys was making fun of me and laughing because I showed
in my full leathers. Finally I turned to him and said, "I rode 180 miles in
the cold before breakfast to be here asshole. Most of these folks rode less
than ten miles across town."







Gunner Asch[_6_] March 6th 17 07:43 PM

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 09:18:37 -0800, Perfect Day wrote:

On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:


So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr?


Perhaps I might consider a pair,


Bwahahaha! The guy who gets new liens filed against him annually for
decades because he can't come up with a few hundred in property taxes,
is talking about paying $600 for a pair of jeans! Could you be any
more stupid? Who do you imagine will believe that malarkey?

after all three of my leather riding
pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill
probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter.


Seriously, WTF? There is great doubt that you've ever ridden a
motorcycle. It is a plain fact that you don't have any rideable
motorcycle, and haven't since... probably forever. The likelihood of
you ever affording any motorcycle other than old junk you pretend to
"restore," may as well be zero. It has nothing to do with your age,
and everything to do with your decision to spend so much of your life
talking about doing, instead of doing.

Then I
might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end so
the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat.


Now you're talkin'. Your future, like your past, consists mostly of a
whole lot of sitting around bull****ting. The classic rightard
strategy to assure perpetual poverty.


(Grin)

ROFLMAO!!

Gunner

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[email protected] March 6th 17 07:49 PM

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On Monday, March 6, 2017 at 11:11:52 AM UTC-5, Gunner Asch wrote:



I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I
use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well
enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the
stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my
trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the
winches.

r

Gunner


Spectra and Dyneema are almost the same. Spectra is made by 3M and Dyneema by a Dutch compang. But they are both UHMW polyethylene made by different processes.

Dan

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 6th 17 08:11 PM

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 10:43:59 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 09:18:37 -0800, Perfect Day wrote:

On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:


So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr?

Perhaps I might consider a pair,


Bwahahaha! The guy who gets new liens filed against him annually for
decades because he can't come up with a few hundred in property taxes,
is talking about paying $600 for a pair of jeans! Could you be any
more stupid? Who do you imagine will believe that malarkey?

after all three of my leather riding
pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill
probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter.


Seriously, WTF? There is great doubt that you've ever ridden a
motorcycle. It is a plain fact that you don't have any rideable
motorcycle, and haven't since... probably forever. The likelihood of
you ever affording any motorcycle other than old junk you pretend to
"restore," may as well be zero. It has nothing to do with your age,
and everything to do with your decision to spend so much of your life
talking about doing, instead of doing.

Then I
might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end so
the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat.


Now you're talkin'. Your future, like your past, consists mostly of a
whole lot of sitting around bull****ting. The classic rightard
strategy to assure perpetual poverty.


(Grin)

ROFLMAO!!

Gunner



Seen my "new boat" pics?

(Grin), pulled it home with the big ol E350 you claimed I didnt own.
Or was that "a piece of junk"? You have made so many claims, I
simply dont bother keeping tabs on them.
Took me a month or so to rebuild the engine. Damnit. All that oil
originally that was in it for the 20 yrs or so while it was parked,
turned to scum and plugged off my mains and rod bearings. Changed the
oil twice too. But it had plugged off the ports and journals. I should
have run it for a while with a case full of diesel, after dumping the
original oil. Sigh. Learned something. Got the Ranger up and
running too, finally. And Im interviewing for some interesting jobs.
Ive warned my remaining clients that I may not be around much
longer..all the prospective jobs are within 40 miles of home. No more
road warrior, on the road for days and weeks anymore! Yippie!!!

In fact..just had a phone interview with one of the parent companies
engineers at 9am. We had a good chat. Keeping my fingers crossed.

You of course will still be retarded and on welfare. (Grin)
But hey...feel free to keep spewing. And everyso often, I may reply to
you. But...snicker...dont count on it. Ive other things that are far
more amusing to do. You are simply a moment of amusement while
waiting for my clothes to come out of the drier. (VBG)

"I finally..finally..managed to go and get my FREE 1978 Aquarius 23,
Saturday. After 6+ months of back and forth communications, heavy
rains blocking the move, vehicle problems etc etc etc.

This boat appears to be a 1978, flat backed transom, with an external
rudder. The previous owner had been transferred from California to
Alabama, fully intending to return and haul it back to Alabama, after
parking it on a friends property in the foothills of the Sierras
(Tehachapi, California). That was 7 or so years ago. He finally
realized it was never going to happen..and through a long and very
tedious period of time...I wound up with it. He had done a
complete..complete restoration of the boat and trailer before parking
it. New, high quality trailer tires, new paint inside and out, high
end sails, fish finders, knot meters, stove, etc etc..and it sat..and
sat..and sat. Prior to moving to Alabama..he had put all of his
fishing and camping gear aboard. A pile of sleeping bags, gear, marine
portable radios, scanners, flood lights, replacement and maintenance
gear of all types, all neatly boxed in plastic tubs and packages,
properly stored, properly marked, properly done.

The man thinks like I think, he equips his boat just as I do.....its a
bit scary how I stood there in the cabin..in the water (more in a
minute) and told my buddy to lift that cushion and one should find X Y
and Z in that bin..and sure as hell...it would be there. He equipped
it for coastal sailing, stickers showed it hit the Catalina Island
sailboat meets for almost 20 yrs in its life.

Photos to be posted later today on my Google photo albums (link to be
posted)

The boat was sitting on its (Nice!) trailer on the side of a hill,
stern downhill and I thought it a bit odd that I could lift the
trailer tounge easily, but as we were under a deadline to get the boat
hooked up, tires filled properly and then towed out of there before
another rainstorm hit...didnt think much about it. Bear in mind...the
mast was sitting secured over the hatchway, so we could only peer into
the (tinted) windows and while we could see stuff piled up...we
couldnt open up the boat until we got it back to my home, about 70
miles and 1.5 hours away. The boat towed...heavy..heavy as hell. But
it didnt sway in the slightest. After a half mile or so of quick
braking..the trailer brakes were free of rust and working properly and
we towed her home. I did notice a bit of a surge when braking..but
didnt think much of it...racing the rain.

So we get the little girl back to my home, parked in a temporary
spot..and I simply couldnt resist popping her open.

I found a full 8"+ of water inside the boat. NO WONDER she towed
heavy!! Crom!!..I had to be hauling at least 200 gallons of water..if
not more. She had to weigh close to 5000 lbs with the trailer!!

We have had a record amount of rain this year...but I dont know how so
much got in there. Fortunately...the only damage discovered so
far..as been some small areas of the (nice) internal hull covering
has been loosened up and a small amount of swelling of cabin wood.
Drawers are sticky to open etc. But Ill have to get this taken care of
quick before permanent damage does occur.

Im waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump and this morning Ill be
pumping her out and putting in fans to dry her out.

He had done such a nice restoration..that Im going to be keeping this
lil girl. The paint is spotless (though a tiny bit oxidized..easy to
simply wipe off), the winches are either new or very well
reconditioned, etc etc. No spinnaker..but the genny, main and jib are
minty, and the only thing of note..is the mast is rough..it was not
reconditioned...aluminum oxidation, but NOT deep enough to weaken the
mast in the slightest. So Ill be polishing the mast, putting new
spreader tip covers where the old plastic is getting tired and
dropping in a new 2 burner alcohol stove (his messages warned the
existing one is not working..but onboard was an (extra) rather nice 2
burner portable propane stove with a CASE of 1 lb propane bottles).
The only thing Ive tossed so far..was 4 rolls of toilet paper..and the
remaining 6 should do us well enough (Grin) There is even a couple
years supply of new portapotty chemicals. Bumpers, new dock lines,
etc etc etc..even a very very good plastic 5 gallon fuel can for the
outboard is tucked away in the under seat fuel locker. It even has
the right fittings for hooking up to my 9.9 Sailmaster!! Upholstery is
in excellent condition and the wet bits are sitting out in the rising
sun as I type this."

"Here is the link to the start of the boat photos album. As I always
do with each of my boats..Ill document everything that I do to it.
This one wont take much work. She is pretty plain on the
outside...Ive been sitting on the porch looking at her...she really
needs some accent paint on her hull doesnt she? Humm..day-glo purple
lightning bolts? Blazing yellow star bursts? And a name...she has to
have a name. My wife came out and I asked her if I should name the
boat "Mary Ellen"...as she kinda reminds me of my wife, fresh out of
the shower...all white and smooth all over...and got swatted... (Grin)

https://goo.gl/photos/gaFkPC11Zs9Qn54Z9


Got my water pump chugging away draining the last of the water out

Snerk!

Arnt you the guy that had trouble with the Segway? Kept falling off
of it while making your minimum wage security guard job? That was
you, right?

Almost time to go check the gas in the genset, then load my clean
clothes and go back down south. Im moving a factory around and
reorganizing their layout.

Thank Crom for President Trump...business is starting to pick up
again..even here in Californiastan.

See ya! Or not. (VBG)

Gunner



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Gunner Asch[_6_] March 6th 17 08:34 PM

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:49:37 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2017 at 11:11:52 AM UTC-5, Gunner Asch wrote:



I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I
use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well
enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the
stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my
trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the
winches.

r

Gunner


Spectra and Dyneema are almost the same. Spectra is made by 3M and Dyneema by a Dutch compang. But they are both UHMW polyethylene made by different processes.

Dan


True. But one is stronger than the other. Spectra has been around a
long time. I have a pair of Kelty backpacks that are made from
Spectra.
http://www.weasel.com/gear_kelty_spectra.html

I see that Dyneema is starting to be used as backpack materials as
well.
https://www.hyperlitemountaingear.co...backpacks.html

Ive several sets of sails made out of Spectra on some of my boats.
Pricey as hell. But they last a hell of a lot longer than Mylar ones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailcloth

The new Dyneema sail cloth has better elongation/creep resistance,
probably do to weave and thread composition. Its gaining ground on
Spectra in leaps and bounds. More than I can afford..but the rich
guys love it.

I ran across some of this line not long ago and was interested in it

https://www.ropeinc.com/plasma-rope.html

I think we are going to see a lot more of it in use before long.

Gunner



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[email protected] March 7th 17 12:23 AM

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are
hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn
biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/

Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .

At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a
set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see
them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend.

Dyneema is what some of the toughest ropes and lines on high end
sailboats are made from. On many boats..its being used to do the
jobs steel cable used to do. Sheets, halyards, centerboard hoists etc.
Fascinating to see it being used in this fashion. That was some very
good application usage thinking outside of the box. That stuff has a
higher strength rating than steel cable.


So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr?


Perhaps I might consider a pair, after all three of my leather riding
pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill
probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter. Then I
might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end so
the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat.

I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I
use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well
enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the
stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my
trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the
winches.


Good Gracious, why would you want Spectra lines on your boats. After
all you never put them in the water.


Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it
for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip.
"Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep.

Gunner

Another free boat parked in the yard? What's the matter? the old
trailer wearing out and you are going to lice in a boat.... parked in
the yard.
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Cheers,

Schweik

[email protected] March 7th 17 12:30 AM

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:47:08 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:


I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I
use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well
enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the
stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my
trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the
winches.

Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it
for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip.
"Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep.

Gunner


https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...messages/42671

I finally..finally..managed to go and get my FREE 1978 Aquarius 23,
Saturday. After 6+ months of back and forth communications, heavy
rains blocking the move, vehicle problems etc etc etc.

This boat appears to be a 1978, flat backed transom, with an external
rudder. The previous owner had been transferred from California to
Alabama, fully intending to return and haul it back to Alabama, after
parking it on a friends property in the foothills of the Sierras
(Tehachapi, California). That was 7 or so years ago. He finally
realized it was never going to happen..and through a long and very
tedious period of time...I wound up with it. He had done a
complete..complete restoration of the boat and trailer before parking
it. New, high quality trailer tires, new paint inside and out, high
end sails, fish finders, knot meters, stove, etc etc..and it sat..and
sat..and sat. Prior to moving to Alabama..he had put all of his
fishing and camping gear aboard. A pile of sleeping bags, gear, marine
portable radios, scanners, flood lights, replacement and maintenance
gear of all types, all neatly boxed in plastic tubs and packages,
properly stored, properly marked, properly done.

The man thinks like I think, he equips his boat just as I do.....its a
bit scary how I stood there in the cabin..in the water (more in a
minute) and told my buddy to lift that cushion and one should find X Y
and Z in that bin..and sure as hell...it would be there. He equipped
it for coastal sailing, stickers showed it hit the Catalina Island
sailboat meets for almost 20 yrs in its life.

Photos to be posted later today on my Google photo albums (link to be
posted)

The boat was sitting on its (Nice!) trailer on the side of a hill,
stern downhill and I thought it a bit odd that I could lift the
trailer tounge easily, but as we were under a deadline to get the boat
hooked up, tires filled properly and then towed out of there before
another rainstorm hit...didnt think much about it. Bear in mind...the
mast was sitting secured over the hatchway, so we could only peer into
the (tinted) windows and while we could see stuff piled up...we
couldnt open up the boat until we got it back to my home, about 70
miles and 1.5 hours away. The boat towed...heavy..heavy as hell. But
it didnt sway in the slightest. After a half mile or so of quick
braking..the trailer brakes were free of rust and working properly and
we towed her home. I did notice a bit of a surge when braking..but
didnt think much of it...racing the rain.

So we get the little girl back to my home, parked in a temporary
spot..and I simply couldnt resist popping her open.

I found a full 8"+ of water inside the boat. NO WONDER she towed
heavy!! Crom!!..I had to be hauling at least 200 gallons of water..if
not more. She had to weigh close to 5000 lbs with the trailer!!

We have had a record amount of rain this year...but I dont know how so
much got in there. Fortunately...the only damage discovered so
far..as been some small areas of the (nice) internal hull covering
has been loosened up and a small amount of swelling of cabin wood.
Drawers are sticky to open etc. But Ill have to get this taken care of
quick before permanent damage does occur.

Im waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump and this morning Ill be
pumping her out and putting in fans to dry her out.


Good Gracious. "I'm waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump". A boat
with no bilge pump? You really are a sailor, aren't you. Or maybe you
just walk on the water when the boat fills up with water and sinks.

(Or maybe you just light that string of firecrackers and listen to the
"bang, bang. bang".
--
Cheers,

Schweik

pyotr filipivich March 7th 17 04:03 AM

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Gunner Asch on Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:


Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it
for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip.
"Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep.


Nothing so expensive as a Free Boat. B-)
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."

RangersSuck March 7th 17 08:31 AM

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On Monday, March 6, 2017 at 2:12:07 PM UTC-5, Gunner Asch wrote:

Took me a month or so to rebuild the engine. Damnit. All that oil
originally that was in it for the 20 yrs or so while it was parked,
turned to scum and plugged off my mains and rod bearings. Changed the
oil twice too. But it had plugged off the ports and journals. I should
have run it for a while with a case full of diesel, after dumping the
original oil. Sigh. Learned something.


THAT's what you call a "REBUILD?" Taking an engine apart and putting it back together without even checking the oil passages doesn't qualify as any sort of rebuild.

The incredible part is that Gummer is too stupid to even be embarrassed by this, after all the years of touting his mechanical prowess. Pffft.

[email protected] March 7th 17 01:11 PM

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 23:31:31 -0800 (PST), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2017 at 2:12:07 PM UTC-5, Gunner Asch wrote:

Took me a month or so to rebuild the engine. Damnit. All that oil
originally that was in it for the 20 yrs or so while it was parked,
turned to scum and plugged off my mains and rod bearings. Changed the
oil twice too. But it had plugged off the ports and journals. I should
have run it for a while with a case full of diesel, after dumping the
original oil. Sigh. Learned something.


THAT's what you call a "REBUILD?" Taking an engine apart and putting it back together without even checking the oil passages doesn't qualify as any sort of rebuild.

The incredible part is that Gummer is too stupid to even be embarrassed by this, after all the years of touting his mechanical prowess. Pffft.



Good Gracious. When you are working with gunner's talent it is
probable that checking the oil about maxed him out for the day.
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Cheers,

Schweik

Perfect Day March 7th 17 04:43 PM

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 11:11:30 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:


Took me a month or so to rebuild the engine.


You didn't "rebuild" anything. And it's still junk.

In fact..just had a phone interview with one of the parent companies
engineers at 9am. We had a good chat.


Post the name and I'll email them a link to the Wieber Cliff Notes. As
if they won't be smart enough to find them when they google your name.

Keeping my fingers crossed.


LOL That ain't going to make up for your lifetime of BS.

"I finally..finally..managed to go and get my FREE 1978 Aquarius 23,


Translation: wasted more of my life dragging home a waterlogged
pretend-yacht to hoard.

Have fun sitting in it on the trailer and wearing your Thurston Howell
cap.

Thank Crom for President Trump...business is starting to pick up
again..even here in Californiastan.


Oh brother. Instead of taking your word, it makes a whole lot more
sense to keep checking up on your new liens to measure Trump's
performance.

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What email, gasbag?

Perfect Day March 7th 17 04:46 PM

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On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:36:12 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are
hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn
biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/

Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .


At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a
set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see
them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend.


LOL. Reminds me of a ride I took up to Phx once for Az Bike week. Some
event or another was happening first thing in the AM at a shop up that way.
One of the counter guys was making fun of me and laughing because I showed
in my full leathers. Finally I turned to him and said, "I rode 180 miles in
the cold before breakfast to be here asshole. Most of these folks rode less
than ten miles across town."



I find that generally (as in, not exclusively), the level of
leatherification is inversely proportional to the seriousness of the
rider. Case in point, Wieber blubbering about his "leathers" to go
with his motionless backyard scrap iron, and his phony "million miles"
of "scooter" riding. What most of them ARE serious about though is
projecting an image. What they don't realize is that their outfit,
particularly when combined with a 60 hp behemoth and fringes, is
pretty goddamned funny. When it includes chaps, fingerless gloves and
a bare head, it's beyond hilarious, and reminds me of alternatively of
Cyndi Lauper and Liberace, which probably isn't what they had in mind.
Most of them don't venture out in the rain, but if they get caught in
it and can't find an overpass to cower under, they look like wet dogs
decorated with chamois.

BTW, for cold and wet, I wear a 35 year old waterproof Belstaff suit.
The synthetic type, not waxed cotton. With various layers and a heated
vest underneath. Behind a full fairing and an electric windshield.

Larry Jaques[_4_] March 7th 17 07:00 PM

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are
hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn
biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/

Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .

At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a
set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see
them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend.

Dyneema is what some of the toughest ropes and lines on high end
sailboats are made from. On many boats..its being used to do the
jobs steel cable used to do. Sheets, halyards, centerboard hoists etc.
Fascinating to see it being used in this fashion. That was some very
good application usage thinking outside of the box. That stuff has a
higher strength rating than steel cable.


So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr?


Perhaps I might consider a pair, after all three of my leather riding
pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill
probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter. Then I
might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end so
the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat.


Har!


I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I
use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well
enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the
stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my
trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the
winches.


Spectra's good, rugged stuff, Maynard.

If you do buy stainless cable, buy a 100' hank. Much cheaper that
way. (Often cheaper to buy 100 than 50. When affordable, that is.)


Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it
for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip.
"Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep.


Ten or fewer gallons of gas is $25, plus half a day, so you're not
out much at all. Cool.

Did you get my email yesterday?

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour

Larry Jaques[_4_] March 7th 17 07:40 PM

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:47:08 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

I found a full 8"+ of water inside the boat. NO WONDER she towed
heavy!! Crom!!..I had to be hauling at least 200 gallons of water..if
not more. She had to weigh close to 5000 lbs with the trailer!!


You didn't do a very good pre-flight walkaround, did you, son?
What if you had been pulled over (for heavy weaving, etc.)and found
the cockpit full of bales of pot? You didn't see that weight in the
tires? Tsk, tsk.

I will be making some small changes...I have zip use for a fishfinder
that can't be seen from the cockpit, so will be machining another
mount like this one that I did for thw Windrose/Laguna 18 and the
Ensenada 20:

https://goo.gl/photos/P8DkJGy3JvP2orp28


Requires group membership, even though I had already been forced to
sign in to Yahoo. sigh


--
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one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour

Bob La Londe[_7_] March 7th 17 09:58 PM

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"Perfect Day" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:36:12 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are
hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn
biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/

Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in
10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .

At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a
set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see
them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend.


LOL. Reminds me of a ride I took up to Phx once for Az Bike week. Some
event or another was happening first thing in the AM at a shop up that
way.
One of the counter guys was making fun of me and laughing because I showed
in my full leathers. Finally I turned to him and said, "I rode 180 miles
in
the cold before breakfast to be here asshole. Most of these folks rode
less
than ten miles across town."




BTW, for cold and wet, I wear a 35 year old waterproof Belstaff suit.
The synthetic type, not waxed cotton. With various layers and a heated
vest underneath. Behind a full fairing and an electric windshield.


I've always favored my Frogg Toggs and an HJC flip up full face helmet for
rain runs. I noticed the other day my Frogg Toggs are getting a little wore
out and need to be replaced. Nice thing about the Frogg Toggs is they do a
nice job for inclement weather tournament fishing too. Pull them on over my
Ridgeline jacket and I am good to fish in driving sleet, and have.






Jim Wilkins[_2_] March 7th 17 11:33 PM

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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch

wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch

wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"

wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of
us are
hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that
gol durn
biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/

Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on
clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .

At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to
buy a
set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll
see
them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend.

Dyneema is what some of the toughest ropes and lines on high end
sailboats are made from. On many boats..its being used to do the
jobs steel cable used to do. Sheets, halyards, centerboard hoists
etc.
Fascinating to see it being used in this fashion. That was some
very
good application usage thinking outside of the box. That stuff
has a
higher strength rating than steel cable.

So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr?


Perhaps I might consider a pair, after all three of my leather
riding
pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill
probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter. Then I
might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end
so
the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat.


Har!


I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either.
I
use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well
enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the
stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my
trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the
winches.


Spectra's good, rugged stuff, Maynard.


Which of those would last as antenna guy lines? I'm running low on
Woodstock 80 lb braided Dacron and plan to buy 500 yards of whatever
is suitable for 5 years in the sun without being too expensive when
the stores restock for spring.
-jsw



Michael A. Terrell March 9th 17 07:09 PM

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Jim Wilkins wrote:

Which of those would last as antenna guy lines? I'm running low on
Woodstock 80 lb braided Dacron and plan to buy 500 yards of whatever
is suitable for 5 years in the sun without being too expensive when
the stores restock for spring.



http://www.phillystran.com/ supplies guylines for real antennas. Hams
and broadcasters both use it.

--
Never **** off an Engineer!

They don't get mad.

They don't get even.

They go for over unity! ;-)

Jim Wilkins[_2_] March 9th 17 09:34 PM

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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
Jim Wilkins wrote:

Which of those would last as antenna guy lines? I'm running low on
Woodstock 80 lb braided Dacron and plan to buy 500 yards of
whatever
is suitable for 5 years in the sun without being too expensive when
the stores restock for spring.



http://www.phillystran.com/ supplies guylines for real antennas.
Hams and broadcasters both use it.


The sturdy fixed lower portion of my telescoping antenna mast uses
real guy line from a hamfest. This is for the impossibly thin looking
sliding upper section which lacks the column rigidity to support
iced-up 3/16" lines.

Yesterday I found a local source for 80 lb Woodstock who is cheaper
than Amazon.



Gunner Asch[_6_] March 11th 17 07:09 PM

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On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 19:11:21 +0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 23:31:31 -0800 (PST), rangerssuck
wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2017 at 2:12:07 PM UTC-5, Gunner Asch wrote:

Took me a month or so to rebuild the engine. Damnit. All that oil
originally that was in it for the 20 yrs or so while it was parked,
turned to scum and plugged off my mains and rod bearings. Changed the
oil twice too. But it had plugged off the ports and journals. I should
have run it for a while with a case full of diesel, after dumping the
original oil. Sigh. Learned something.


THAT's what you call a "REBUILD?" Taking an engine apart and putting it back together without even checking the oil passages doesn't qualify as any sort of rebuild.


Rebuild? The only rebuild was 2 months ago. OH....I see that your
reading comprehension issues are even worse than I remember them to
be.

The incredible part is that Gummer is too stupid to even be embarrassed by this, after all the years of touting his mechanical prowess. Pffft.



Good Gracious. When you are working with gunner's talent it is
probable that checking the oil about maxed him out for the day.


Snerk!



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Gunner Asch[_6_] March 11th 17 07:11 PM

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On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 06:30:08 +0700,
wrote:


Im waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump and this morning Ill be
pumping her out and putting in fans to dry her out.


Good Gracious. "I'm waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump". A boat
with no bilge pump?


Good Gracious! A trailer sailer with a bilge pump? Whatever for?


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Gunner Asch[_6_] March 11th 17 07:12 PM

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On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 19:03:56 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Gunner Asch on Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:


Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it
for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip.
"Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep.


Nothing so expensive as a Free Boat. B-)
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."


Its been stated with some rational..that a boat is nothing more than a
hole in the water you throw money into.

(Grin)

But they are fun!


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Gunner Asch[_6_] March 11th 17 07:14 PM

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On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 07:46:13 -0800, Perfect Day wrote:

On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:36:12 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are
hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn
biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/

Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .

At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a
set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see
them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend.


LOL. Reminds me of a ride I took up to Phx once for Az Bike week. Some
event or another was happening first thing in the AM at a shop up that way.
One of the counter guys was making fun of me and laughing because I showed
in my full leathers. Finally I turned to him and said, "I rode 180 miles in
the cold before breakfast to be here asshole. Most of these folks rode less
than ten miles across town."



I find that generally (as in, not exclusively), the level of
leatherification is inversely proportional to the seriousness of the
rider. Case in point, Wieber blubbering about his "leathers" to go
with his motionless backyard scrap iron, and his phony "million miles"
of "scooter" riding. What most of them ARE serious about though is
projecting an image. What they don't realize is that their outfit,
particularly when combined with a 60 hp behemoth and fringes, is
pretty goddamned funny. When it includes chaps, fingerless gloves and
a bare head, it's beyond hilarious, and reminds me of alternatively of
Cyndi Lauper and Liberace, which probably isn't what they had in mind.
Most of them don't venture out in the rain, but if they get caught in
it and can't find an overpass to cower under, they look like wet dogs
decorated with chamois.

BTW, for cold and wet, I wear a 35 year old waterproof Belstaff suit.
The synthetic type, not waxed cotton. With various layers and a heated
vest underneath. Behind a full fairing and an electric windshield.


So how many minutes on the ride do you get for a quarter?


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Gunner Asch[_6_] March 11th 17 07:16 PM

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On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 10:00:45 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:05:58 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 05:19:11 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2017 07:28:43 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:09:29 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I saw this on Gizmag this morning and thought it fit. Some of us are
hard on clothing in the shop or work. Others are them that gol durn
biker dudes. (Hi, Snag) Anyway, Got Dyneema?

http://newatlas.com/saint-motorcycle...-review/46201/

Thanks for the tip Larry , but I don't spend 600 bucks on clothes in 10
years ... and anyway I have a pretty nice ser of leathers .

At such a cheap price, I'm surprised you're not rushing out to buy a
set for every day of the week, or at least one pair for Sunday.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass, too. Surely, though, we'll see
them on every dentist on his Harley every weekend.

Dyneema is what some of the toughest ropes and lines on high end
sailboats are made from. On many boats..its being used to do the
jobs steel cable used to do. Sheets, halyards, centerboard hoists etc.
Fascinating to see it being used in this fashion. That was some very
good application usage thinking outside of the box. That stuff has a
higher strength rating than steel cable.

So, how many pairs can we put you down for...at "only" $600/pr?


Perhaps I might consider a pair, after all three of my leather riding
pants finally get torn up beyond repair. But by that time, Ill
probably be too freaking old to toss a leg over a scooter. Then I
might have to consider a pair of shorts with Dyneema in the ass end so
the wheel chair seat doesnt wear out my seat.


Har!


I should mention I dont use Dyneema on any of the sail boats either. I
use Spectra, which is about 1/4 the price and does the job well
enough. Though to be fair...I might buy some 5/16" and replace the
stainless steel cables that lift and lower my centerboards on my
trailer sailers, simply because it wont wear out the spools on the
winches.


Spectra's good, rugged stuff, Maynard.

If you do buy stainless cable, buy a 100' hank. Much cheaper that
way. (Often cheaper to buy 100 than 50. When affordable, that is.)


Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it
for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip.
"Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep.


Ten or fewer gallons of gas is $25, plus half a day, so you're not
out much at all. Cool.

Did you get my email yesterday?


Did I respond to it? I got home about 3 hours ago and am drifting from
awake to twilite and back again. Dogs at my feet, a pup in my lap and
drifting. Tough (but profitable) week. Good to see business picking
up a smidge. I was gone all 5 days this time.

Gunner

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Perfect Day March 11th 17 08:35 PM

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On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 10:14:03 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 07:46:13 -0800, Perfect Day wrote:


BTW, for cold and wet, I wear a 35 year old waterproof Belstaff suit.
The synthetic type, not waxed cotton. With various layers and a heated
vest underneath. Behind a full fairing and an electric windshield.


So how many minutes on the ride do you get for a quarter?


Oooh, I am so insulted. Fun facts, Wieber: I've ridden farther on a
single trip than you have in your entire life. And see if you can grok
this - all the dozens of bikes I've owned over the years have had
license plates and insurance! As in, actually rideable.

How many decades have you been pretending to be in the process of
"restoring" that junk you rescued from the dumpster? Who do you think
believes your stories about riding a million miles, or that you will
ever actually ride a motorcycle instead of making up stories about
riding?

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What email? Everyone knows you're galactically pigheaded. No need to
work so hard to keep proving yourself.

Perfect Day March 11th 17 08:36 PM

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On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 10:12:23 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 19:03:56 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Gunner Asch on Mon, 06 Mar 2017 08:11:14 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:


Btw....got my Balboa 23/Aquarius 23, home Saturday, after chasing it
for the past 6 months. 3 hour round trip, 140 miles round trip.
"Free" boat that I believe Im going to keep.


Nothing so expensive as a Free Boat. B-)
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although far too often, Age travels alone."


Its been stated with some rational..that a boat is nothing more than a
hole in the water you throw money into.

(Grin)


In your case, what money would that be?

But they are fun!


The most fun is watching you pretend you'll someday move from the
trailer to the water.

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What email? Just another thing you don't know how to fix.

John B.[_3_] March 12th 17 01:53 AM

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On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 10:11:15 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 06:30:08 +0700,
wrote:


Im waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump and this morning Ill be
pumping her out and putting in fans to dry her out.


Good Gracious. "I'm waiting for a buddy to bring a water pump". A boat
with no bilge pump?


Good Gracious! A trailer sailer with a bilge pump? Whatever for?


I agree with you. You will never need a bilge pump on a trailer
sailor... unless you put the boat in the water.
--
Cheers,

John B.



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