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A few days ago a friend of mine called me up and said, "Bob, come over here
and take home ten boxes of books." "Um, no. Why?" He had a gutted out rental house somebody had been renting to store some stuff in. They died recently and it was packed floor to ceiling with boxes of books. The family doesn't want any of it. We talked a while and he said, " So, Bob, come over here and take home ten boxes of books." "Um, no." "Come on Bob. You can always more books..." We went back and forth for a while, but ultimately I didn't go. Then today a firend of mine from out of town stopped by. I happen to know his wife sells used books on Amazon so I mentioned it to him, and we called my other friend. A few hours later I was staring in the front door of this dingy dark hole literally piled to the ceiling with boxes of books. We had to move boxes to create aisles to get into other rooms that we had to move boxes to create aisle to get to other boxes. My friend took home 20 boxes of books, and I took home ten boxes of books, an unused 2"-6" hole gage still sealed in the plastic in the original box, a 3/8 torque wrench new unused (cheap import), a 36 or 40 inch wood lathe, most of the parts of a tool grinder, some other misc tools, a sausage stuffer, a few cherry picked books, a couple presses that I have no idea what they are for, and a big yellow metal box that I think is some kind of spot welder. The house is still so pack with stuff it doesn't look like we removed anything. I doubt if we looked at 5% of what is there. The big yellow box says Eagle 2000 on the side of it and its heavy. One lead has a magnetic clamp and the other has a solid copper electrode with a big D-handle and a trigger button. There is a timer on the front of the big yellow box. It was either very obscure its its pretty old. I could not find a Google image or a refference to it, so it may be pre internet. Its heavy enough I suspect it has a copper transformer, and not an aluminum one, and it has four wheels. The only thing is it has a standard 110 plug on it. The leads are pretty heavy. 3 or 4 times the size of those on my cracker box. Heck nearly twice the size of the leads on my Miller 212. Oh, yeah. In the box with the parts of the tool grinder I found one metal lathe chuck jaw. Makes me want to go back over and see if there is a metal lathe buried in there some where. I have no idea what I am going to do with these ten boxes of books. LOL. |
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:29:36 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote: snip My friend took home 20 boxes of books, and I took home ten boxes of books, an unused 2"-6" hole gage still sealed in the plastic in the original box, a 3/8 torque wrench new unused (cheap import), a 36 or 40 inch wood lathe, most of the parts of a tool grinder, some other misc tools, a sausage stuffer, a few cherry picked books, a couple presses that I have no idea what they are for, and a big yellow metal box that I think is some kind of spot welder. The house is still so pack with stuff it doesn't look like we removed anything. I doubt if we looked at 5% of what is there. The big yellow box says Eagle 2000 on the side of it and its heavy. One lead has a magnetic clamp and the other has a solid copper electrode with a big D-handle and a trigger button. There is a timer on the front of the big yellow box. It was either very obscure its its pretty old. I could not find a Google image or a refference to it, so it may be pre internet. Its heavy enough I suspect it has a copper transformer, and not an aluminum one, and it has four wheels. The only thing is it has a standard 110 plug on it. The leads are pretty heavy. 3 or 4 times the size of those on my cracker box. Heck nearly twice the size of the leads on my Miller 212. Oh, yeah. In the box with the parts of the tool grinder I found one metal lathe chuck jaw. Makes me want to go back over and see if there is a metal lathe buried in there some where. I have no idea what I am going to do with these ten boxes of books. LOL. I've got a sister like that, but she's been taking care of Dad, who turns 97 tomorrow, so we'll worry about her problem later. My next door neighbor just built a large air conditioned shop with mezzanine for his woodworking. He's now in the process of trying to empty the shop he was renting, which was so packed, he couldn't actually do much of anything. It's still packed, there's a large pile of his junk out back, and he told me he's renting two storage units. I think he's actually making an effort, has a scrapper over at the rented shop and a dino box, because the new shop is already full as it can get if he expects to do anything in there. My shop is ok, not big enough to store much. Some stuff is in the garage. But one of my sons wanted to do some reloading, so now I've got to figure out where to store in process stuff he's working on so I can get back to fixing my cousin's bar stools. They're steel with welded on casters which are worn out, so I'm chopping off the old, welding on new plates to take bolted on larger casters. Welding is relatively incompatible with reloading on the same bench. You are a do-er, Bob. I imagine you'll sort through those boxes and donate them to a local charity rather than let them clutter up your space. Going back with a metal detector sounds like fun, though. Let us know what you find. Merry Christmas! Pete Keillor |
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:29:36 -0700
"Bob La Londe" wrote: snip Interesting story. Reminds me of this true story/tale: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collyer_brothers The big yellow box says Eagle 2000 on the side of it and its heavy. One lead has a magnetic clamp and the other has a solid copper electrode with a big D-handle and a trigger button. There is a timer on the front of the big yellow box. snip Try carefully looking over the box for any copyright dates. It could help pin down its vintage. Posting some pictures may help too, someone may have seen something similar with another name. I have no idea what I am going to do with these ten boxes of books. LOL. There are a lot of old books that are pretty much worthless. If you want to check some values, try plugging in some book info he https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchEntry If you just want to get rid of them, try checking with local libraries. They usually hold used book sales from time to time. You can find some that have sales listed he http://www.booksalefinder.com/AZ.html At least I remember you being in AZ somewhere... The Salvation Army, Goodwill, St Vincent... used to take in old books too. If I was closer by I would come over and have a look. Must be warmer down there ;-) -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 06:10:29 -0600, Pete Keillor
wrote: On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:29:36 -0700, "Bob La Londe" wrote: snip My friend took home 20 boxes of books, and I took home ten boxes of books, an unused 2"-6" hole gage still sealed in the plastic in the original box, a 3/8 torque wrench new unused (cheap import), a 36 or 40 inch wood lathe, most of the parts of a tool grinder, some other misc tools, a sausage stuffer, a few cherry picked books, a couple presses that I have no idea what they are for, and a big yellow metal box that I think is some kind of spot welder. The house is still so pack with stuff it doesn't look like we removed anything. I doubt if we looked at 5% of what is there. The big yellow box says Eagle 2000 on the side of it and its heavy. One lead has a magnetic clamp and the other has a solid copper electrode with a big D-handle and a trigger button. There is a timer on the front of the big yellow box. Perhaps it's a stud welder. Auto body people use them to weld studs onto the sheetmetal, screw a slide-hammer puller onto the stud, and pull the dent out. They then break off the stud, grind it flat, and solder or bondo the remaining ding out. These welders are used over inaccessible areas like the rear quarter panel, where they can't get a dolly or slap hammer behind it. Perhaps ask a local body shop's most ancient body man whether he recognizes the name or tool. It was either very obscure its its pretty old. I could not find a Google image or a refference to it, so it may be pre internet. Its heavy enough I suspect it has a copper transformer, and not an aluminum one, and it has four wheels. The only thing is it has a standard 110 plug on it. The leads are pretty heavy. 3 or 4 times the size of those on my cracker box. Heck nearly twice the size of the leads on my Miller 212. Oh, yeah. In the box with the parts of the tool grinder I found one metal lathe chuck jaw. Makes me want to go back over and see if there is a metal lathe buried in there some where. I have no idea what I am going to do with these ten boxes of books. LOL. I've got a sister like that, but she's been taking care of Dad, who turns 97 tomorrow, so we'll worry about her problem later. My next door neighbor just built a large air conditioned shop with mezzanine for his woodworking. He's now in the process of trying to empty the shop he was renting, which was so packed, he couldn't actually do much of anything. It's still packed, there's a large pile of his junk out back, and he told me he's renting two storage units. I think he's actually making an effort, has a scrapper over at the rented shop and a dino box, because the new shop is already full as it can get if he expects to do anything in there. My shop is ok, not big enough to store much. Some stuff is in the garage. But one of my sons wanted to do some reloading, so now I've got to figure out where to store in process stuff he's working on so I can get back to fixing my cousin's bar stools. They're steel with welded on casters which are worn out, so I'm chopping off the old, welding on new plates to take bolted on larger casters. Welding is relatively incompatible with reloading on the same bench. You are a do-er, Bob. I imagine you'll sort through those boxes and donate them to a local charity rather than let them clutter up your space. Going back with a metal detector sounds like fun, though. Let us know what you find. Har! Excellent idea. -- ....in order that a man may be happy, it is necessary that he should not only be capable of his work, but a good judge of his work. -- John Ruskin |
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On 12/20/2016 9:29 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
.... I have no idea what I am going to do with these ten boxes of books. LOL. Read, maybe??? |
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"dpb" wrote in message news
On 12/20/2016 9:29 PM, Bob La Londe wrote: ... I have no idea what I am going to do with these ten boxes of books. LOL. Read, maybe??? I used to have quite a library in my old house. Thousands of book I'd read and decided where worth keeping. Thosuands more I donated to the library. When we moved to a bigger house my wife indiscimantly donated about 2/3s of my library. She lets me go fishing or hunting or riding my motorycle anytime I want so I was able to forgive that huge breach, but I pretty much only save refference books and very valuable books anymore. |
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
news A few days ago a friend of mine called me up and said, "Bob, come over here and take home ten boxes of books." "Um, no. Why?" He had a gutted out rental house somebody had been renting to store some stuff in. They died recently and it was packed floor to ceiling with boxes of books. The family doesn't want any of it. We talked a while and he said, " So, Bob, come over here and take home ten boxes of books." "Um, no." "Come on Bob. You can always more books..." We went back and forth for a while, but ultimately I didn't go. Then today a firend of mine from out of town stopped by. I happen to know his wife sells used books on Amazon so I mentioned it to him, and we called my other friend. A few hours later I was staring in the front door of this dingy dark hole literally piled to the ceiling with boxes of books. We had to move boxes to create aisles to get into other rooms that we had to move boxes to create aisle to get to other boxes. My friend took home 20 boxes of books, and I took home ten boxes of books, an unused 2"-6" hole gage still sealed in the plastic in the original box, a 3/8 torque wrench new unused (cheap import), a 36 or 40 inch wood lathe, most of the parts of a tool grinder, some other misc tools, a sausage stuffer, a few cherry picked books, a couple presses that I have no idea what they are for, and a big yellow metal box that I think is some kind of spot welder. The house is still so pack with stuff it doesn't look like we removed anything. I doubt if we looked at 5% of what is there. The big yellow box says Eagle 2000 on the side of it and its heavy. One lead has a magnetic clamp and the other has a solid copper electrode with a big D-handle and a trigger button. There is a timer on the front of the big yellow box. It was either very obscure its its pretty old. I could not find a Google image or a refference to it, so it may be pre internet. Its heavy enough I suspect it has a copper transformer, and not an aluminum one, and it has four wheels. The only thing is it has a standard 110 plug on it. The leads are pretty heavy. 3 or 4 times the size of those on my cracker box. Heck nearly twice the size of the leads on my Miller 212. Oh, yeah. In the box with the parts of the tool grinder I found one metal lathe chuck jaw. Makes me want to go back over and see if there is a metal lathe buried in there some where. I have no idea what I am going to do with these ten boxes of books. LOL. Maybe later today I'll get it out of the truck, post some pictures, and see if there is any other information on it. For now I have other work that's more important. I need to fix my air system yet this morning. Had my main regulator in front of the air dryer start leaking, and I need my air system to run... well actually all of the CNC mills that are currently running. The three little high speed mills use air seals on the spindles, and the big mill has an air operated automatic oiler. |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 06:10:29 -0600, Pete Keillor wrote: On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:29:36 -0700, "Bob La Londe" wrote: snip My friend took home 20 boxes of books, and I took home ten boxes of books, an unused 2"-6" hole gage still sealed in the plastic in the original box, a 3/8 torque wrench new unused (cheap import), a 36 or 40 inch wood lathe, most of the parts of a tool grinder, some other misc tools, a sausage stuffer, a few cherry picked books, a couple presses that I have no idea what they are for, and a big yellow metal box that I think is some kind of spot welder. The house is still so pack with stuff it doesn't look like we removed anything. I doubt if we looked at 5% of what is there. The big yellow box says Eagle 2000 on the side of it and its heavy. One lead has a magnetic clamp and the other has a solid copper electrode with a big D-handle and a trigger button. There is a timer on the front of the big yellow box. Perhaps it's a stud welder. Auto body people use them to weld studs onto the sheetmetal, screw a slide-hammer puller onto the stud, and pull the dent out. Maybe. It doesn't appear to have the hole in the end I have seen for stud welders in the past, but it could have been mashed shut I suppose. Its a good idea to consider at the least. |
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 10:37:20 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote: "dpb" wrote in message news On 12/20/2016 9:29 PM, Bob La Londe wrote: ... I have no idea what I am going to do with these ten boxes of books. LOL. Read, maybe??? People are quite aghast, and ask me "What do you do with your time?" when I've told them I don't watch TV. At all. I have 7 full-height bookcases and dozens of boxes on the floors and in closets. It's time to week through them, but many are reference books. I used to have quite a library in my old house. Thousands of book I'd read and decided where worth keeping. Thosuands more I donated to the library. When we moved to a bigger house my wife indiscimantly donated about 2/3s of my library. OMG! That's a drawing and quartering offense in many homes. She lets me go fishing or hunting or riding my motorycle anytime I want so I was able to forgive that huge breach, but I pretty much only save refference books and very valuable books anymore. And she'll -ask- next time, I trust? -- ....in order that a man may be happy, it is necessary that he should not only be capable of his work, but a good judge of his work. -- John Ruskin |
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I'm the title holder of just short of 7000 volumes myself.
We donate 1-300 books a year to the local 'friends of the library' at the local Library. They sell to the public after the library takes a look. (most don't). But sell most for $1, current reading for $3 and then some specials for auction. All of the money goes to the library for projects by the board vote of the Friends.... disclaimer - I'm a Director of the Friends of the Library and have been for some years. We take books we buy from the friends (when we are done) to another site. - like Goodwill. Martin On 12/21/2016 7:13 AM, Leon Fisk wrote: On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:29:36 -0700 "Bob La Londe" wrote: snip Interesting story. Reminds me of this true story/tale: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collyer_brothers The big yellow box says Eagle 2000 on the side of it and its heavy. One lead has a magnetic clamp and the other has a solid copper electrode with a big D-handle and a trigger button. There is a timer on the front of the big yellow box. snip Try carefully looking over the box for any copyright dates. It could help pin down its vintage. Posting some pictures may help too, someone may have seen something similar with another name. I have no idea what I am going to do with these ten boxes of books. LOL. There are a lot of old books that are pretty much worthless. If you want to check some values, try plugging in some book info he https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchEntry If you just want to get rid of them, try checking with local libraries. They usually hold used book sales from time to time. You can find some that have sales listed he http://www.booksalefinder.com/AZ.html At least I remember you being in AZ somewhere... The Salvation Army, Goodwill, St Vincent... used to take in old books too. If I was closer by I would come over and have a look. Must be warmer down there ;-) |
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All-in-all, a next-of-kin could be having to deal with one whirlwind of a clean-up job. GOT JUNK, anyone?
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 10:37:20 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote: I used to have quite a library in my old house. Thousands of book I'd read and decided where worth keeping. Thosuands more I donated to the library. When we moved to a bigger house my wife indiscimantly donated about 2/3s of my library. I'll bet you don't even remember what was tossed out. When we all finally keel-over, the people from the next generation not only have to come in and conduct the funerals, but they also have to unfortunately invite themselves over and brave the many fire hazards there and try to clean out the house/trailers/sheds of all those tonnes and tonnes of junk, er ... "projects". Sometimes, that could cost precious time to them in their own lives. I'd say to heck with being a pack-rat and collecting junk. |
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On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 8:07:08 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 10:37:20 -0700, "Bob La Londe" wrote: I used to have quite a library in my old house. Thousands of book I'd read and decided where worth keeping. Thosuands more I donated to the library. When we moved to a bigger house my wife indiscimantly donated about 2/3s of my library. I'll bet you don't even remember what was tossed out. When we all finally keel-over, the people from the next generation not only have to come in and conduct the funerals, but they also have to unfortunately invite themselves over and brave the many fire hazards there and try to clean out the house/trailers/sheds of all those tonnes and tonnes of junk, er ... "projects". Sometimes, that could cost precious time to them in their own lives. I'd say to heck with being a pack-rat and collecting junk. Agreed, from a recovering pack rat. -- Ed Huntress |
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... On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 10:37:20 -0700, "Bob La Londe" wrote: I used to have quite a library in my old house. Thousands of book I'd read and decided where worth keeping. Thosuands more I donated to the library. When we moved to a bigger house my wife indiscimantly donated about 2/3s of my library. I'll bet you don't even remember what was tossed out. When we all finally keel-over, the people from the next generation not only have to come in and conduct the funerals, but they also have to unfortunately invite themselves over and brave the many fire hazards there and try to clean out the house/trailers/sheds of all those tonnes and tonnes of junk, er ... "projects". Sometimes, that could cost precious time to them in their own lives. I'd say to heck with being a pack-rat and collecting junk. All? No probably not, but dozens of times I've gone looking for a particular book that I used to have... Its gotten so I often don't even look anymore. I just buy a new one. |
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