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I did a little metalworking recently. I adopted a snow blade from an IH cub cadet to a John Deere lawn tractor. I did as little metalworking as possible with no mods on the Deere and one hole on the snow plow. Still need to add some wings to the snow blade. The existing blade in 42 inches wide and not as wide as the tractor. Also need to buy some UDMH poly to be the lower lip of the blade. But I think it will work as is.

I am getting too old to be shovelling the driveway by hand.

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On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 9:20:44 AM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:

My old (1982) JD yard tractor came with a blade , no need for wings
because it can be angled to either side as needed . How are you
raising/lowering the blade ? Mine is hydraulic with power down , which comes
in handy . Gotta get the chains on , in case we do actually get some snow .
Been so long since I fired it up it needed the battery charged ...
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THe blade can be angled. But without wings the blade is 42 inches and the JD lawn tractor is about 62 inches from the outside of the tires to the outside of the other tire.

The blade is raised or lowered by running a nut up or down an some all thread. Fortunately the drive is pretty flat and there should not be much raising and lowering.

I have a float charger keeping the battery charged.

I really should get some chains. If worst comes to worst, I can shovel it by hand. Have done that before. It is only about 200 yards long.

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Many years ago I did a high school shop project and made a plow blade
for our simplicity tractor. I used a cable from the lever for the
mower deck to a pulley bolted to the side of the front and down to the
blade to rasie and lower it. Much nicer to be able to raise it up for
manuevering at the top and bottom of the driveway.



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On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 9:20:44 AM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:

My old (1982) JD yard tractor came with a blade , no need for wings
because it can be angled to either side as needed . How are you
raising/lowering the blade ? Mine is hydraulic with power down , which comes
in handy . Gotta get the chains on , in case we do actually get some snow .
Been so long since I fired it up it needed the battery charged ...
--
Snag


THe blade can be angled. But without wings the blade is 42 inches and the JD lawn tractor is about 62 inches from the outside of the tires to the outside of the other tire.

The blade is raised or lowered by running a nut up or down an some all thread. Fortunately the drive is pretty flat and there should not be much raising and lowering.

I have a float charger keeping the battery charged.

I really should get some chains. If worst comes to worst, I can shovel it by hand. Have done that before. It is only about 200 yards long.

Dan

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Many years ago I did a high school shop project and made a plow
blade
for our simplicity tractor. I used a cable from the lever for the
mower deck to a pulley bolted to the side of the front and down to
the
blade to rasie and lower it. Much nicer to be able to raise it up
for
manuevering at the top and bottom of the driveway.


I've seen a blade mount with long arms back to a pivot in the rear. I
think you remove the mower deck and connect its lift hooks to the
centers of the arms.
-jsw




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I really should get some chains. If worst comes to worst, I can shovel it by hand. Have done that before. It is only about 200 yards long.

Dan


This morning there is a lot of white stuff all over the place. But it really is not snow. It is sleet. At first I thought the aluminum grain scoop would be the bee's knees for shovelling. But the stuff is too heavy, so I went back to the square shovel. And shovelled the walkway from the front door to the garage doors. But have not bothered to try my snow plow. The slush is about three inches deep, but very heavy. The lawn tractor would not have enough traction to push it around.

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On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 2:19:39 PM UTC-5,
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I really should get some chains. If worst comes to worst, I can
shovel it by hand. Have done that before. It is only about 200
yards long.

Dan


This morning there is a lot of white stuff all over the place. But it
really is not snow. It is sleet. At first I thought the aluminum
grain scoop would be the bee's knees for shovelling. But the stuff is
too heavy, so I went back to the square shovel. And shovelled the
walkway from the front door to the garage doors. But have not
bothered to try my snow plow. The slush is about three inches deep,
but very heavy. The lawn tractor would not have enough traction to
push it around.

Dan
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I had to put ag tires and home-made chains on my Sears garden tractor
to give it enough traction to move wet snow with the loader bucket.
They made quite a mess of the turf unless it was frozen before the
snow came.

I originally bought the tires to pull a trailer loaded with firewood
up hills. They weren't too bad when the lawn was dry and solid.
-jsw


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On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 2:19:39 PM UTC-5,
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I really should get some chains. If worst comes to worst, I can
shovel it by hand. Have done that before. It is only about 200
yards long.

Dan


This morning there is a lot of white stuff all over the place. But it
really is not snow. It is sleet. At first I thought the aluminum
grain scoop would be the bee's knees for shovelling. But the stuff is
too heavy, so I went back to the square shovel. And shovelled the
walkway from the front door to the garage doors. But have not
bothered to try my snow plow. The slush is about three inches deep,
but very heavy. The lawn tractor would not have enough traction to
push it around.

Dan
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I had to put ag tires and home-made chains on my Sears garden tractor
to give it enough traction to move wet snow with the loader bucket.
They made quite a mess of the turf unless it was frozen before the
snow came.

I originally bought the tires to pull a trailer loaded with firewood
up hills. They weren't too bad when the lawn was dry and solid.
-jsw



I run turf with 2 link tire chains and a LOT of weight on my Cub Cadet.
Rear tires are 23 10.50 X 12 loaded with RV antifreeze in tubes, Then
100+ pounds of custom wheel weights on each side (Sears plastic shells
filled with buck shot and mortar mix) Add a 200 pound steel cab, and my
a$$ in the seat and I don't have much issue with traction going forward.

Have the same issue if the ground isn't frozen. Have to rake the
driveway back out of the lawn in the spring.... People think I'm crazy
because I toss the rotary broom on and use it (actually does a great job
sweeping and de-thatching).

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Dan
But have not
bothered to try my snow plow. The slush is about three inches deep,
but very heavy. The lawn tractor would not have enough traction to
push it around.

Dan


Well some good came from all this. I shovelled the drive enough to be able to get out to the road. And it has warmed up enough that the rest is melting. But thought about next year and so checked a couple of Ag tires that I had in the basement. I knew they were smaller than the tires on the lawn tractor. They are tires I got at the local scrap yard for next to nothing.. In fact they might have cost nothing. Tires are not some thing that the scrap yard wants.

But checked the John Deere booklet and the Ag tires are an optional tire size. And checked the tire bolt spacing and the Ag tires will bolt right on with no fuss. I do not think it would have helped with this snow and sleet, but should be useful next year.

Dan





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Dan
But have not
bothered to try my snow plow. The slush is about three inches
deep,
but very heavy. The lawn tractor would not have enough traction
to
push it around.

Dan


Well some good came from all this. I shovelled the drive enough to be
able to get out to the road. And it has warmed up enough that the rest
is melting. But thought about next year and so checked a couple of Ag
tires that I had in the basement. I knew they were smaller than the
tires on the lawn tractor. They are tires I got at the local scrap
yard for next to nothing. In fact they might have cost nothing.
Tires are not some thing that the scrap yard wants.

But checked the John Deere booklet and the Ag tires are an optional
tire size. And checked the tire bolt spacing and the Ag tires will
bolt right on with no fuss. I do not think it would have helped with
this snow and sleet, but should be useful next year.

Dan

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I tried turf and ag tires bare and with chains. Chains on ag tires had
noticeably the best traction and caused the most lawn damage and
erosion on uphill trails, I think because only the small sections of
the chains that crossed the tread ridges bore all the weight. The
worst condition for damage was snow after a brief thaw when a thin
layer of wet soil couldn't drain through the ice under it.
-jsw




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