The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week , today I
fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs but needs plugs
and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes faster/slower/reverses as
it should .
Time to start throwing money at it !
--
Snag

On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week , today I
fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs but needs plugs
and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes faster/slower/reverses as
it should .
Time to start throwing money at it !

Congrats on a good surgery, Snag. That's always a relief when you get
a goner back on the road.

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour

On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week , today I
fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs but needs plugs
and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes faster/slower/reverses as
it should .
Time to start throwing money at it !
I have found that it is more effective to throw the money at the parts
suppliers. When throwing money at machines they just sit there.
Sometimes they may grin a little, but machines can be subtle and you
can't always tell when they are laughing at you. A good indication is
when you start the engine after installing some spendy part and it
promptly sticks a rod through the block. The engine equivalent of
sticking your tongue out.
Eric

On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 17:46:17 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week , today I
fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs but needs plugs
and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes faster/slower/reverses as
it should .
Time to start throwing money at it !
I have found that it is more effective to throw the money at the parts
suppliers. When throwing money at machines they just sit there.
Sometimes they may grin a little, but machines can be subtle and you
can't always tell when they are laughing at you. A good indication is
when you start the engine after installing some spendy part and it
promptly sticks a rod through the block. The engine equivalent of
sticking your tongue out.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Shoulda checked its pedigree (or degree of bitterness)
first, Eric. I'm happy to say that nothing I've ever bought has done
that to me, save for the frozen welder, and that cost me $100. I
nearly tripled my investment selling it as-is, too.

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week ,
today I fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs
but needs plugs and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes
faster/slower/reverses as it should .
Time to start throwing money at it !

Congrats on a good surgery, Snag. That's always a relief when you get
a goner back on the road.

Actually , it was only minor surgery ... and may actually have been
unnecessary . I pulled the starter - which means unbolting the motor and
pulling it out- and cleaned and oiled it . Got all the tin off the tractor
except the column that houses the battery/steering gear/ etc . Tomorrow I
start ordering parts ... I wasn't about to start spending any serious money
before I knew the machine was worth repairing . Apart from the axle and a
set of tires it looks like the only other problems are a bit too much slop
in the steering box and a blade missing from the hydro pump cooling fan .

--
Snag

wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week ,
today I fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs
but needs plugs and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes
faster/slower/reverses as it should .
Time to start throwing money at it !
I have found that it is more effective to throw the money at the parts
suppliers. When throwing money at machines they just sit there.
Sometimes they may grin a little, but machines can be subtle and you
can't always tell when they are laughing at you. A good indication is
when you start the engine after installing some spendy part and it
promptly sticks a rod through the block. The engine equivalent of
sticking your tongue out.
Eric

Hmmm , a point well taken !

--
Snag

On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:11:04 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week ,
today I fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs
but needs plugs and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes
faster/slower/reverses as it should .
Time to start throwing money at it !

Congrats on a good surgery, Snag. That's always a relief when you get
a goner back on the road.

Actually , it was only minor surgery ... and may actually have been

As it should be.


unnecessary . I pulled the starter - which means unbolting the motor and
pulling it out- and cleaned and oiled it . Got all the tin off the tractor
except the column that houses the battery/steering gear/ etc . Tomorrow I
start ordering parts ... I wasn't about to start spending any serious money
before I knew the machine was worth repairing . Apart from the axle and a

Axle problems? That can be big money.


set of tires

Eek, tires, too? That's a definite lot of money.



it looks like the only other problems are a bit too much slop
in the steering box and a blade missing from the hydro pump cooling fan .

OK, those could be minor.

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:11:04 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week ,
today I fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs
but needs plugs and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes
faster/slower/reverses as it should .
Time to start throwing money at it !

Congrats on a good surgery, Snag. That's always a relief when you
get a goner back on the road.

Actually , it was only minor surgery ... and may actually have been

As it should be.


unnecessary . I pulled the starter - which means unbolting the motor
and pulling it out- and cleaned and oiled it . Got all the tin off
the tractor except the column that houses the battery/steering gear/
etc . Tomorrow I start ordering parts ... I wasn't about to start
spending any serious money before I knew the machine was worth
repairing . Apart from the axle and a

Axle problems? That can be big money.


set of tires

Eek, tires, too? That's a definite lot of money.



it looks like the only other problems are a bit too much slop
in the steering box and a blade missing from the hydro pump cooling
fan .

OK, those could be minor.

I've already located all the parts needed for the axle problems , around
a hundred bucks for used everything but the bearing and seal on eBay .
Still shopping tires , but a pair for the rear will run around 150 bucks .
Fronts might be able to get away with just new tubes . Steering is probably
an adjustment and I have stock that'll work for a blade that'll at least
balance the fan . I suspect the PO looked for the cause of the vibration and
never found it . It does explain all the fatigue cracks in the sheet metal .

--
Snag

On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:07:02 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:11:04 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week ,
today I fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs
but needs plugs and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes
faster/slower/reverses as it should .
Time to start throwing money at it !

Congrats on a good surgery, Snag. That's always a relief when you
get a goner back on the road.

Actually , it was only minor surgery ... and may actually have been

As it should be.


unnecessary . I pulled the starter - which means unbolting the motor
and pulling it out- and cleaned and oiled it . Got all the tin off
the tractor except the column that houses the battery/steering gear/
etc . Tomorrow I start ordering parts ... I wasn't about to start
spending any serious money before I knew the machine was worth
repairing . Apart from the axle and a

Axle problems? That can be big money.


set of tires

Eek, tires, too? That's a definite lot of money.



it looks like the only other problems are a bit too much slop
in the steering box and a blade missing from the hydro pump cooling
fan .

OK, those could be minor.

I've already located all the parts needed for the axle problems , around
a hundred bucks for used everything but the bearing and seal on eBay .

Do you have the tools required? I've heard they can be, um,
interestingly assembled.



Still shopping tires , but a pair for the rear will run around 150 bucks .

Wow, that's a steal!


Fronts might be able to get away with just new tubes .

That'd be nice.


Steering is probably
an adjustment and I have stock that'll work for a blade that'll at least
balance the fan . I suspect the PO looked for the cause of the vibration and
never found it . It does explain all the fatigue cracks in the sheet metal .

No doubt. g

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:07:02 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:11:04 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 16:47:20 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week
, today I fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor
runs but needs plugs and the correct type of ignition coil ,
trans goes faster/slower/reverses as it should .
Time to start throwing money at it !

Congrats on a good surgery, Snag. That's always a relief when you
get a goner back on the road.

Actually , it was only minor surgery ... and may actually have
been

As it should be.


unnecessary . I pulled the starter - which means unbolting the
motor and pulling it out- and cleaned and oiled it . Got all the
tin off the tractor except the column that houses the
battery/steering gear/ etc . Tomorrow I start ordering parts ... I
wasn't about to start spending any serious money before I knew the
machine was worth repairing . Apart from the axle and a

Axle problems? That can be big money.


set of tires

Eek, tires, too? That's a definite lot of money.



it looks like the only other problems are a bit too much slop
in the steering box and a blade missing from the hydro pump cooling
fan .

OK, those could be minor.

I've already located all the parts needed for the axle problems ,
around a hundred bucks for used everything but the bearing and
seal on eBay .

Do you have the tools required? I've heard they can be, um,
interestingly assembled.


So far the only difficult part was pulling the outer bearing race from the
axle housing . I ended up using the dremel to cut it to release the tension
.. The only strange thing I found was 2 seals back to back - hydraulic oil on
one side , grease on the other .
Well , got the financing details worked out with the Mrs , gotta move some
money and get parts ordered .

--
Snag

Awesome!

i

On 2014-10-23, Terry Coombs wrote:
The patient will live ! I've been working on his thing all week , today I
fired it up and checked out the transmission . Motor runs but needs plugs
and the correct type of ignition coil , trans goes faster/slower/reverses as
it should .
Time to start throwing money at it !

On 10/23/2014 4:47 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
The patient will live ! ...

I don't recall -- what is it?

--

dpb wrote:

On 10/23/2014 4:47 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
The patient will live ! ...

I don't recall -- what is it?

--

Terry Coombs wrote:

I just scored an older JD model 317 tractor with a mower deck and front
blade with hydraulic raise/lower

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:07:05 PM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:



Still shopping tires , but a pair for the rear will run around 150 bucks .
Fronts might be able to get away with just new tubes .
--
Snag

Do not know if this would be of any help. But I have a couple of 20 x 8.00-8 tires , a couple of 5x 6.00-6 tires and a couple of 20x10-8 tires.

Dan

So far the only difficult part was pulling the outer bearing race from the
axle housing . I ended up using the dremel to cut it to release the tension
. The only strange thing I found was 2 seals back to back - hydraulic oil on
one side , grease on the other .
Well , got the financing details worked out with the Mrs , gotta move some
money and get parts ordered .

Did i miss a post? What make and model are you doing?

On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 22:02:23 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

I asked:
Do you have the tools required? I've heard they can be, um,
interestingly assembled.


So far the only difficult part was pulling the outer bearing race from the
axle housing . I ended up using the dremel to cut it to release the tension
. The only strange thing I found was 2 seals back to back - hydraulic oil on
one side , grease on the other .
Well , got the financing details worked out with the Mrs , gotta move some
money and get parts ordered .

Have at 'er, and let us know where to find the pics when you're done.

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour

On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:11:53 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


dpb wrote:

On 10/23/2014 4:47 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
The patient will live ! ...

I don't recall -- what is it?

--

Terry Coombs wrote:

I just scored an older JD model 317 tractor with a mower deck and front
blade with hydraulic raise/lower

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I thought he had said "tractor". gd&r
No wonder the parts were so cheap.

Wayull, hayull! I guess they can be converted.
http://www.grainfarmer.com/image5T9.JPG
I'd love one of those configured like that.

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour

Karl Townsend wrote:
So far the only difficult part was pulling the outer bearing race
from the axle housing . I ended up using the dremel to cut it to
release the tension . The only strange thing I found was 2 seals
back to back - hydraulic oil on one side , grease on the other .
Well , got the financing details worked out with the Mrs , gotta
move some money and get parts ordered .

Did i miss a post? What make and model are you doing?

You musta ... and more than one !
I got lucky and found a steal on a 1982 JD model 317 yard tractor with a
mower deck and front blade . So far I have got the motor running needs
plugs badly and tested the hydrostatic trans , and got all the busted/wore
out stuff removed and repaired/parts ordered . It had a trashed bearing on
the LR wheel that also took out the axle , hub , and bearings/seals . Right
now I'm looking at tires , and I'm leaning towards tractor type lugs instead
of turf tires . This thing is going to be pushing dirt and snow and mowing
the orchard - ain't no puttin' greens here and never will be .

--
Snag

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:11:53 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


dpb wrote:

On 10/23/2014 4:47 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
The patient will live ! ...

I don't recall -- what is it?

--

Terry Coombs wrote:

I just scored an older JD model 317 tractor with a mower deck and
front blade with hydraulic raise/lower

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I thought he had said "tractor". gd&r
No wonder the parts were so cheap.

Wayull, hayull! I guess they can be converted.
http://www.grainfarmer.com/image5T9.JPG
I'd love one of those configured like that.

I'd like one too ! But for now I'll settle for mowing and pushing
snow/dirt . That is the same basic machine I got .

--
Snag

On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 11:24:11 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:11:53 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


dpb wrote:

On 10/23/2014 4:47 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
The patient will live ! ...

I don't recall -- what is it?

--

Terry Coombs wrote:

I just scored an older JD model 317 tractor with a mower deck and
front blade with hydraulic raise/lower

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I thought he had said "tractor". gd&r
No wonder the parts were so cheap.

Wayull, hayull! I guess they can be converted.
http://www.grainfarmer.com/image5T9.JPG
I'd love one of those configured like that.

I'd like one too ! But for now I'll settle for mowing and pushing
snow/dirt . That is the same basic machine I got .

Ayup. That mini-backhoe really draws me, though.

Some day...

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour

On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 11:24:11 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:11:53 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


dpb wrote:

On 10/23/2014 4:47 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
The patient will live ! ...

I don't recall -- what is it?

--

Terry Coombs wrote:

I just scored an older JD model 317 tractor with a mower deck and
front blade with hydraulic raise/lower

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I thought he had said "tractor". gd&r
No wonder the parts were so cheap.

Wayull, hayull! I guess they can be converted.
http://www.grainfarmer.com/image5T9.JPG
I'd love one of those configured like that.

I'd like one too ! But for now I'll settle for mowing and pushing
snow/dirt . That is the same basic machine I got .


http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/se...actor&sort=rel

http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/grd/4728066378.html

Lots of tractors around here.....

Some of the farms here use em for yard seperators...long lines of old
tractors between fields


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